Gran Turismo 7 Promises Major PS5, PS4 Update Next Week

I would love some fresh tracks to race around in VR. Amazing game.

Gran Turismo is an incredible driving simulator game.I think it's insane that the community can tell what cars those are just by that image.

Cars are not a major update. It makes little difference to a race unfortunately. New tracks are a major update.

I know people have been hoping for the Lexus LFA and a newer Gr3 model is cool too, even if it is a Porsche. I'm excited to see what else the update brings. Hopefully it wont be a disappointment.

New cars are indeed no major update, that is like saying all the new skins in Fortnite are major updates.
This is not even worth a news article.

Damn, what's with all the hate on a racing game adding a fair number of cars? I mean its not all the patch notes but I'll probably assume its just a bunch of old farts who don't play online lol

I’ve got 393 cars, need more tracks/championship/single player content! Basically just remake GT3 in this engine and I’d be ecstatic

Things that would make for a major update.

• Addition of a B-Spec Mode
• Sophy AI
• multiple new tracks
• major change to race payouts across the board.
• a true customizable race HUD
• Dynamic Weather cycle across all tracks.
• 24 hour day night cycle (on tracks were applicable)
• Single player custom championships
• A penalty system that actually worth something in Sport Mode.
  I'm not saying I need all of that or expect most of it but if a major update is coming it has to be more than just a the typical update with a few extra cars.

Still my most played game over the last 2 years though.

Sorry, but adding seven cars that even fewer people are going to drive is not a big update.

@AldusRavencorn A ‘24 hour day/night cycle’ exists in the game already, doesn’t it? Albeit only on a select few tracks.

I agree with pretty much all of the other points you’ve mentioned. Those would be a big update, not seven cars. 😂

@AldusRavencorn a lot of those things you mentioned won't happen until the ditch the PS4 version. Huge mistake making this a last gen game.

Got my platinum for this just last night. Second time I’ve done it. It’s an absolutely brilliant game where the support has also been second to none. This is very intriguing and will be leaving GT7 exactly where it is on my SSD. Bring it Polyphony

@thefourfoldroot1 Agreed I just wish they would bring the fantasy tracks over from gt4

Apricot raceway and Autumn ring would be absolutely epic

A new Porsche always melts my heart.

I’m very grateful for the continued support on this game but adding new cars is not keeping me engaged personally. I’d like some more single player stuff (akin to GT3) and more tracks.
I think things to do are more important than things to look at.

Cool word up son

I love this game so much in VR, 180 hours in VR which have mostly been in sport mode.
Looking forward to trying out the new cars. I believe we'll be getting at least one new track and some new single player content(rumoured to be more missions). It's good that they have competition from Forza now, hopefully it will keep PD on their toes and give us even more content.
My wish is a Race D that has qualifying, two mandatory tyres with dynamic weather!

None of those cars look like a Ford GT90 to me Kaz 😡. I do hope we get a new track although unlikely.

@TrickyDicky99 all of that it's possible in GT7, the ps4 has nothing to do with it.
But good for you, still banging the same drum about cross gen games. It's funny your reading articles about games you will never play.

Has to be new tracks being added.

It's nice having new cars and some new tracks would be awesome but what I feel the game really needs is dozens more single player events. I remember the old games having single make championships, like the Yaris Cup for example, and things like that is what the game misses. Just my thoughts.
If and when they get the Sophy AI implemented fully that would make a huge difference too

Have they introduced an offline mode yet

@AldusRavencorn Same GT7 is my most played PS5 game and agree with all of your suggestions, most vital for me are the customisable HUD and some new tracks would be nice. Penalty system in Sport mode urgently needs updating as it's currently inconsistent in how and when players are penalised

Just got the platinum in this a couple of days ago!

I think there must be more than the 7 cars, saying major update indicates new modes and/or track.

With the absolute monumental amount of effort it takes to make car models these days, I'd say 7 of them is certainly a newsworthy update. They're not just recycling models as per certain other racing franchises.
Very excited for the LFA, hope the sound design is good, that car certainly deserves it

Rumor going around that the Gilles Villeneuve track will be included in this update. That would be awesome. I hope we get new tracks.

@Serialsid Sophy AI is 100% not possible on PS4, hence when they introduced it for a limited time it was only on PS5.

And the same goes dynamic weather too as as rain was limited to certain tracks on GT Sport too.

I think they should stop giving away cars in updates now. Their resources are being taken up when they could be producing new or classic tracks.
It's only a small grumble mind, polyphony have given away a fantastic amount for free, I platinumed it long ago and still play it regularly. This is one instance where I would happily pay for some dlc with several tracks and new single player content.

@TrickyDicky99 yes I know sophy is only on ps5, that's obvious from the test they did. Doesn't mean it can't be introduced into gt7 for single player content for the ps5. Which I believe they will do.
The dynamic weather system could be implemented on all the tracks, but PD decided to only include it on tracks they thought it would be a realistic common occurrence. Nothing to do with it being a cross gen game, everything to do with PD and their weird development ideas.

I'll just add, gt sport didn't have dynamic weather. Gt7 on ps4 has it on le mans and the Nurbergring, a massive track. So again, cross gen isn't stopping those things listed being implemented.

@Serialsid The PS4 has a very weak laptop CPU. Plus the CPU has to decompress the data compression, where as on PS5 it has dedicated hardware.

The PS4 is extremely limited

@TrickyDicky99 agreed, but what's that got to do with the original point? Everything listed by AldusRavencorn could be implemented into gt7 if PD wanted to.

@Serialsid The point is the PS4 cannot handle it.

@TrickyDicky99 the ps4 could handle everything in that list apart from sophy, which we knew was ps5 only and can still be implemented into gt7 for the ps5.

@Serialsid PS4 has a 1.6Ghz Jaguar CPU and also has to do decompression and audio. PS5 has a 3.5Ghz Zen 2 CPU and it doesn't have to do decompression and audio.

I suppose you think the PS3 could do it too right?

@TrickyDicky99 your first post stated that most things in his list wouldn't happen until they ditch the ps4!
My point is you are wrong, apart from sophy all those things could be put into gt7 for the ps4 right now if PD wanted to. They could have been in from the start if PD had wanted to. It's not the ps4's cpu stopping that list happening, it's PD!
I know what cpu's both consoles have, it's completely irrelevant to your original post!

@TrickyDicky99 his list,

Can the ps4 do these,

Addition of a B-Spec Mode - yes. Gt4 gt5 and gt6 had these modes.
Sophy AI - no, but it's already been tested for the ps5 by players, and can be included just for the ps5 for single player content. Ps4 not stopping this happening.
multiple new tracks - yes, all tracks released and future releases work on the ps4.
major change to race payouts across the board.- yes.
a true customizable race HUD - yes.
Dynamic Weather cycle across all tracks. - yes it could if PD added it to every track. If the ps4 can handle dynamic weather on a 12 mile circuit on and offline it can do it for any track.
24 hour day night cycle (on tracks were applicable) - yes, already in the game, just not every track and not used enough by PD.
Single player custom championships - yes, but PD not interested in adding this, they like their cafe menu!
A penalty system that actually worth something in Sport Mode. Yes. Penalty system is broken.

@Serialsid Weather on all tracks it cannot do.

And a much better penalty system involves being much more complex, again the CPU isn't up to it.

Imagine a base PS4 with a 16 car grid, dynamic weather with rain, a complex physics driven penalty system while maintaining 60fps. Isn't going to happen

@Serialsid Also stop depending developers purposely gimping their games by making them last gen. It's 2023, 10 years after PS4 released.

By this time last gen the PS4 Pro was releasing, imagine the Pro releasing while games were still being developed for the PS3

Cool, hope they'll keep supporting the ***** out of this game! I only play in VR and while i abandoned the series completely after GT3 A Spec, not a sim racing fan, i enjoy the heck out of GT7! Only gripe is that i find the game kinda mura-heavy, other titles on PSVR 2 look way better in that regard(Horizon CotM, Red Matter 1&2, RE8, NMS, Alvo etc.) Wish they could have a look at that.

@TrickyDicky99 yes weather on all tracks it can do. Please show me evidence otherwise? The game has weather on the tracks PD wanted them to have weather on. Again if the ps4 has dynamic weather across a 12 mile circuit it can handle it on any track.

The penalty system is implemented wrong. It's certainly as complex as it needs to be, just needs better tuning.

The ps4 has 16 car races, with dynamic weather, with rain, with the penalty system whilst maintaining 60fps on and offline. You would know this is you played the game.

@Serialsid yeah, it has dynamic weather on select tracks only and it's using the current penalty system, which is awful

Why would PD only want weather on certain tracks? and if you want to implement a complex physics driven penalty system, even possible using machine learning, it's not possible on PS4.

I'm not sure why people think gaming tech has peaked at PS4 and the PS4 is capable of running any game going forward.

Will you also think the PS4 can run PS6 racing games too?

@TrickyDicky99 and I'm not defending anything. Just stating your first post was completely wrong! PD haven't implemented the things on that list because PD haven't wanted to. We'll apart from the tracks, as they add them periodically.

We have no idea what PD would have put into this game had it been ps5 only. We can only guess.

@TrickyDicky99 what are you on about? I know the ps5 is a massive jump up from the ps4. We should be, and will be getting games that would melt the ps4 and the pro! The ps5 is capable of so much more.

But that's not what this is about. This is about your first post being completely wrong. Apart from sophy all the things on that list are possible on the ps4.

They have stated themselves, they only wanted weather on the tracks where it is was a normal occurrence. You'll have to ask them why? Certainly not down to the ps4s cpu.

And the game doesn't need a penalty system with complex machine learning. Just needs a system that's fair and consistent. Something which needs tuning on gt7, but not overhauling.

More offline content? I know it's foolish but one can dream.

@Serialsid the only fair and consistent penalty system would be AI.

But I'm sure the 1.6ghz Jaguar CPU is capable of AI too

I’m hoping for road America and some new online races etc, none of those cars appeal, perhaps the Porsche

@TrickyDicky99 no of course its not.
But as PD don't have an AI learning penalty system, and have never mentioned having one, your point is completely pointless!

I'm placing my bets on Sophy. A full integration would be amazing, as it would put GT7 head and shoulders above the new Forza.

The timeline matches: it's been a few months since the beta, and Polyphony has just released a video where they categorically say that Sophy would be integrated into the main game at some point.

@TrickyDicky99 What's stopping Sophy integration from being a PS5 exclusive feature?

@Serialsid stop defending games being designed around 10 year old weak hardware.

PS5 Pro will be here next year and then in 3 years from now the build up to PS6 will be here, this generation has been abysmal.

@TrickyDicky99 again, I'm not defending anything!

I'm just stating that your first post was completely and utterly wrong! That list could be implemented into gt7, playable on the ps4 apart from sophy(which could and probably will be put into the game for the ps5!). What could be in the game if it was a ps5 exclusive is completely irrelevant!

You keep deflecting and going on about cpu and generations because you know you were wrong! I'm not debating the tech or it being a cross gen game, I'm debating that list!

@Serialsid show me proof it can all work on a PS4

@TrickyDicky99 show me proof it can't? Your the one who said they couldn't implement it! Just another one of your cross gen ramblings, you probably didn't even read the list!

Please explain how the game can do dynamic weather at the Nurbergring, a 12 mile track, with rain, with 15 other online players, running at 60fps on the ps4 but can't do it at other much much smaller tracks? Same with le mans, the second biggest track in the game, dynamic weather with day/ night cycle.

You know your wrong. All in that list could be done easily if PD decided to.

@Serialsid I don't think it can do it, while maintaining 60fps.

It can do rain on the Nurbergring now with the penalty system it currently has. A more complex penalty system will take up CPU resources.

@TrickyDicky99 who said anything about a more complex penalty system?
His words were "Just a penalty system that was worth something".
I have over 180 hours in online racing in gt7, the penalty system for the most part works fine 90% of the time. Doesn't need AI learning, just needs refining and better implementation in certain instances. That's all down to PD not the cpu!

@Serialsid I have over 1300 hours and 1800 online races in GT Sport and I know the penalty system has never been great, so it need a more complex system potentially based on AI, like Sophy is.

@TrickyDicky99 again I stand by my earlier post, the penalty system needs better implementation, but as PD so often does, they seem happy with it so don't seem to care.

@Serialsid again I stand by my earlier post, PS4 won't be able to run an advanced penalty system, dynamic weather on all tracks, full grid etc at 60fps.

Roll on GT8 and a proper current gen game

@TrickyDicky99 and again I go back to your original post! Everything in that list is doable on the ps4, apart from sophy which is coming to the ps5 tomorrow. So your original post was wrong!

Yeah you sit around for another 4-5 years waiting for gt8, I'll just be enjoying many many hours of gt7 in VR, an incredible experience! If a games fun and immersive, I really don't care what generation it's from. But you do you.

@Serialsid 4-5 years for GT8? So it will be a PS6 game? Even better!

@TrickyDicky99 well obviously

@Serialsid Great. PS6 is rumored to have much more advanced machine learning, hopefully they don't make the same mistake and make it a previous gen game like they did with GT7.

@TrickyDicky99 Yesterday: "What's stopping Sophy integration from being a PS5 exclusive feature?"

Today: "Also, in addition to the standard AI features, the PS5 version of the game will allow you to take on Gran Turismo Sophy, the prototype revolutionary racing AI agent that's causing a worldwide sensation in the driving-game genre."

Bingo!

@Art_Vandelay Sophy isn't new, it was a PS5 only feature several months ago.

@TrickyDicky99 yeah and hopefully we won't have a world wide pandemic and a massive global semiconductor shortage so Sony can make enough ps6's from day one! So the install base can be built quickly, so they don't have to take the difficult decision to make the game cross gen like they did with gt7!
If for nothing else so that we don't have to listen to people constantly moaning about cross gen games!

@TrickyDicky99 So why on Earth do you keep banging the same old "GT7 is being held back by the PS4" drum, when Polyphony can demonstrably implement PS5 exclusive features?

You know someone is full of crap when they adjust and change their argument according to what is convenient to prove a given point.

@Serialsid PS5 has sold quicker than PS1, PS2 and PS3 and is on par with PS4 and yet Sony have never released cross-gen game before apart from MLB The Show.

What was the install base of PS4 when Killzone, Infamous Second Son and Bloodborne released? What was the install base of PS2 when GT3 released a year after the PS2 came out and went on to be the best selling GT game of all time?

@Art_Vandelay Because Sophy is not a game wide feature, it's for quick races only.

Now if the whole single player campaign had Sophy then that would be different, but they can't do that as they need to keep parity with the PS4. And the multiplayer is cross-play with PS4 so it's once again limited to 16 car grids, dynamic weather on select tracks only etc.

@TrickyDicky99 Oh god, do you really have to think this narrowly? Anyone can see that Sophy is being gradually integrated into the game.

And where did that unbreakable "parity with PS4" rule come from? Wait, don't answer that one.

@Art_Vandelay Let me know when Sophy is integrated to the whole single player mode.

@TrickyDicky99 don't know and personally don't care. Different times! On the back of the massively popular ps4, and with the uncertainty of the chip shortage, Sony weren't producing the amount of ps5's that they wanted to at launch and in the first years.
We all know they pivoted from the generations spiel, because the chip shortage was throwing all their plans out the window. They took the financial decision to make the games cross gen and not lose the 120 million players, many of whom couldn't get a ps5!
And also don't forget that game development now goes into the 100s of millions. You don't spend that sort of money at the start of a generation if your not selling the numbers you want and have financially planned for.

I know you keep going on and on about all these games should have been next gen only. For me personally the games I've enjoyed most on my ps5 and my series x have been the cross gen ones.
GT7 is a better game than forza 8, looks better and plays better. Forspoken, redfall, starfield all very mediocre games.

@Serialsid PS1 sold over 100M and they ditched it once PS2 released. Released GT3 a year after PS2 came out and is the best selling GT game of all time.

PS2 is the best selling console of all time at 155M sold and once the PS3 released they ditched the PS2

When the PS4 released they ditched the PS3.

Need I go on?

@TrickyDicky99 Again times now are completely different, game development costs have risen massively, as have playstations R&D budget! What happened 10-20 years ago doesn't matter! Also the ps4 was not backwards compatible with the ps3 so that doesn't count.
Fact remains that they decided to do cross gen games for financial reasons, to get the most revenue possible for their games. So that they can make a profit from a much bigger user base for a game like horizon and its $212 million budget.
We all know you don't like that from your constant moans, still doesn't stop it from being a great, fun title and arguably still the best looking open world console game ever made. Do I wish it had been ps5 only, yes! But as a gamer I just want to play great games, games like the masterpiece that GOW ragnarok is! I can't imagine not playing these amazing games because you have some sort of mental block that being cross gen your not going to play them, because they are potentially not a good as they could have been!
Anyway, back to the original point. Your first post was completely wrong, that whole list is possible on the ps4(apart from sophy, which we already knew)! GT7 is a brilliant cross gen racing game, better in my opinion than a new next gen racing game.

@Serialsid I am not spending my money on games that the devs purposefully gimp and make last gen, especially this far into a new gen.

It's like buying a 4K TV then buying movies on DVD or 1080p Bluray instead of 4K Ultra HD Bluray. What was the point of buying a 4K TV if your are watching 1080p Blurays?

Sony literally sold us on the idea that the PS5 will herald in game design previously not possible and they spent more of the budget on the SSD and I/O throughput compared to the GPU . . . and then make the majority of the games last gen still!

@TrickyDicky99 good for you, don't spend your money! Don't play great games, don't have great experiences because their cross gen! You stick to your principals, whilst the rest of us just enjoy ourselves!

@Serialsid I have no interest in playing those games, so I'm not missing out on anything.

Most of them are on PS+ Extra which I am subbed to and I still haven't played them because I have no interest in playing them. I'm not going to play games I have no interest in just for the sake of it.

Also I played GT Sport to death, around 1300 hours, I stopped playing it because I had enough after 1300 hours and GT7 is essentially GT Sport Directors Cut, sport mode with a more fleshed out single player mode which isn't even a proper campaign. When GT7 released all of the tracks apart from 4 were from GT Sport. For people who didn't play GT Sport then maybe GT7 would interest them, but for me it's essentially DLC.

@TrickyDicky99 good for you. I personally didn't rate gt sport at all.
Gt7 in VR is the most immersive gaming I've ever had in 30 years of gaming(and I have pcvr too), the whole massive single player events, missions(the 1 hour races are brilliant), licences, time trials, 38 tracks all in vr! Then you have online, in vr with other players, dynamic weather, nothing comes close. I literally can't drive flat screen anymore, just so boring and restrictive! If that's dlc then 🤷.

I do find it funny that you have no interest in these games but you read articles on them, constantly comment in the threads on them! Me, if I have no interest in a game I don't read about it! Life's too short!
Anyway, hopefully now no more cross gen titles from Sony, and hopefully you'll get games that do interest you.

@Serialsid I guess you are one of those who just accept what these companies do and buy stuff regardless, which is a major reason why the industry is the way it is right now.

Also GT7 on PSVR2 is not the PS5 is it, you need to buy another overpriced peripheral that is quite frankly a dead platform due to how overpriced it is. I was really looking forward to PSVR2 but Sony has managed to balls that up too.

I was just listening to the recent UploadVR podcast and they are saying how it needs to drop in price pretty sharpish and how disappointed they are that it uses fresnel lenses instead of pancake lenses so the sweet spot is so tiny and the image blurs in your periphery. Not to mention it's not that ergonomic so the Globular Cluster add on is recommended by a lot of people.

So £530 for headset plus £50 for Globular Cluster plus maybe £40 for charging station . . no wonder PSVR2 is a sales flop. And because it's a sales flop it will be another VR gen of mostly mediocre indies and shovelware. I have around 130 PSVR1 games but I knew VR was in it's infancy, PSVR2 was meant to be the shift towards more AAA hybrid games, but with the way PSVR2 has sold I highly doubt that now.

@TrickyDicky99 no I'm one of those people who just wants to play games, great games. That's what I accept! I really don't care what generation it's from as long as I get enjoyment from it! Must be quite sad to only try games that you think are worthy of you, to deny yourself the potential to really enjoy something because you can't get off your high horse!

PSvr2 has been out less than 9 months, to say it's a sales flop when you don't know the sales numbers is silly! It was never going to be a massive seller, it's an expensive add on to a growing platform, will never do quest numbers.
Not that I care anyway, it's an amazing bit of kit, I find the sweet spot in seconds(so does everyone else who's tried it in my home), the hdr and colours are incredible, has great features and some amazing games with more coming. And even if it does flop in the end, I really don't care, its only money. After nearly 200 hours in gt7 vr and counting, its been worth every penny. My youngest son loves it, he's already beaten 5 games and got the platinum in 2 of them. Oh and the globular cluster is not needed, but from someone who's never tried it, your opinion means nothing.

@Serialsid What amazing games has PSVR2 got? A very small handful at best with no roadmap apart from RE4.

As I said, I have around 130 PSVR games with most of them being quite frankly poor mini games, but VR was in it's infancy, I'm not going to do another 7 years of poor quality mini VR games.

And I don't just play games that I think are worthy of me, if I did then I wouldn't be playing mediocre to poor £5 VR games for 7 years, but times move on and people expect better over time. I thought PS1 games were good at the time but I now I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

When a new generation starts I expect games to move on, just like that have every generation for the last 40 years. If you are happy to keep playing previous generation games and poor quality VR games that wouldn't look out of place in 2016 then you do you, I'm not stopping anyone else doing what they want to do.

@Serialsid And there is literally a post on reddit every few days from people complaining about the comfort and sweet spot and need to mod the headset
https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/17nd3lq/best_elite_strap_or_comfort_mod_for_psvr_2/

@TrickyDicky99 I can list plenty of great games on it, and the ones coming soon like arizona sunshine 2, but I really can't be bothered. And if you think res evil village, no mans sky, gt7, horizon, red matter 2 etc look like games from 2016 I suggest you go to specsavers! But again, it's all subjective, you think it has crap games, I think it has great games.
And people in reddit complain about everything! Show me a headset that doesn't have people moaning about comfort and has aftermarket add ons?
All I can say is after 400-500 hours in psvr2 I've never had any comfort issues or sweet spots problems.

@Serialsid What meta score do you think Arizona Sunshine 2 will get? Must be 85+ according to you as they are amazing games.

No Mans Sky is playable on PSVR1, Red Matter 2 is a Quest game. Tetris Effect is also a great VR game, but again playable on PSVR1.

Apart from GT7 and RE8 there is hardly anything the PSVR2 offers for people like me who have multiple VR headsets while it's way too expensive for the casuals, hence it being a sales flop.

All I heard was PSVR2 was a soft launch, waiting until Christmas where Sony will really market it. Now it's wait until 2024 🤣

@TrickyDicky99 amazing fun games! Never cared about metacritic to be honest. I personally don't think we'll ever get AAA games in VR, just too expensive for the market share. If you thought otherwise, that's on you. I bought it for great experiences, and I've had loads so far.
No mans sky on psvr1 looks like a ps1 game compared! Go check out someone playing it after the last update, it's just stunning!
As for the quest ports, bring them on, the more the merrier! Pcvr is dead, quest is where the money is. As long as we get improved visuals with foveated rendering and it's a fun experience I really don't care.
Sony have basically said its not their primary focus. They put it out there, made a few games, it's getting decent support, it's just another benefit that the PlayStation ecosystem offers, like the portal. I should imagine as long as it sells 5-10 million over its lifetime they'll be happy.
What with them having record quarterly revenues, and planning to sell more consoles this year than in their entire history (mmm maybe the cross gen idea wasn't so bad after all) I think they'll survive even if its a flop.

@Serialsid Clearly you're new to VR as PSVR1 has had AAA VR games like Resi7, Hitman Trilogy, Skyrim, Dirt Rally.

What's you PSN ID, I'll check what previous VR games you've played. Hopefully you don't make a ton of excuses as to why you can't give out a public PSN ID 😉

@TrickyDicky99 no I never had psvr, was into PCVR back then that had proper controllers, psvr was a joke with the move controllers! Didn't want to waste my money! I do have plenty of games on steam, halflife alyx, project cars 2, arizona sunshine etc.

Oh I'm sure we'll get hybrid games like those, res evil 4/bulletstorm vr soon as you know. I was talking about AAA games built for VR. Not going to happen, too expensive. Plenty to look forward to though.

@Serialsid Still waiting for you PSN ID

@TrickyDicky99 you'll be waiting a very long time! It is of no interest or benefit for me to give it to you!

@Serialsid Just as I thought, a fanboy fraud 🤣

@TrickyDicky99 oh no, you called me names! It's like being back in school!
That last post says a lot about you!

@Serialsid But you're a fraud, nothing you say can be trusted.

You just defend Playstation and yet you don't even play their games, if you did you would tell me you PSN ID.

@TrickyDicky99 and why would I care that you think I'm a fraud? Crack on mate, no skin off my nose.
Don't defend playstation, just like gaming. Hence why I have a switch, series x, ps5, steamdeck and a gaming pc. I have no loyalty to any box, they are all billion dollar companies and don't need my help.

You on the other hand, not sure what you are. A 130 games for psvr! Wow, now that is a waste of money!

@Serialsid @Serialsid I've been reading through a lot of your previous comments, you're a huge PS fanboy.

And as per usual, all talk no walk . . . too afraid to reveal a public PSN ID 🤣

@TrickyDicky99 you have just made my morning, that fact you've spent time reading through my old comments is brilliant! Thank you 😊
I'll admit out of all my gaming systems, I get the most enjoyment out of the PlayStation ecosystem! If that makes me a fanboy, I can live with that.
As to giving you my ID, I'll just have to live with the crushing shame of disappointing you, of you not believing me! Oh the horror!

@Serialsid Yes we already know, fraud alert!

@TrickyDicky99 fraud alert, ah bless you!

@Serialsid Thanks for proving you have something to hide, if you didn't then you wouldn't have any issue giving out your PSN.

Congratulations, you played yourself!

@TrickyDicky99 no you've just made yourself look a bit stupid, and tedious!
Just because I don't want to give my psn account to a stranger on the Internet that obviously has issues doesn't prove anything. I don't want my account being spammed by someone who's life is so lacking that they spend time reading a strangers old comments on a gaming website!
Your opinion of me means nothing to me. Believe what you want, i really don't care.

@Serialsid Your account being spammed? First of all you can have your settings so only people you know can message you and secondly, if I did message you, which I wouldn't do anyway, you can simply block someone.

But do keep making those excuses!

@TrickyDicky99 no excuses, I don't like you, I'm not giving you any of my info.
You can call me all the playground names you like, believe whatever you like, I owe you nothing, certainly don't need to prove anything to you as you mean nothing.
You started this thread with your first post being a lie, and its been going down hill ever since. I wish you well.

@Serialsid I'm loving the excuses, checkmate!