If you include the various State of Play broadcasts, Sony has been hosting multiple livestreams every year for quite some time. This week’s PS Showcase was, however, significant because it was more closely aligned with a traditional E3 press conference – at least, that was the intention, anyway. While there have been some absolutely terrific State of Plays, they’re generally shorter in nature and smaller in scale, although it does vary.
It perhaps won’t come as a huge surprise, then, that Kotaku’s senior reporter Ethan Gach is citing sources which have confirmed to him PlayStation has more digital showcases in the pipeline. As we’ve alluded to above, this isn’t exactly Earth-shattering news: we always expected there’d be a broadcast dedicated to Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 in the coming months, and irrespective of this week’s event, we know Sony’s cooking a lot of first-party games that will need to be announced at some point.
And then, of course, it has its absolutely ginormous list of third-party partners, many of which rely on PlayStation’s promotional clout to get the word out about their games. All in all, we think we’d be more surprised if there weren’t any additional presentations planned. To be honest, it would be nice to get a rough roadmap from the Japanese giant, outlining some of the things it has planned for the rest of 2023 – but we know that’s just not how it operates anymore.
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I try not to be a Playstation doomer. I was reasonably open to the GAAS shift if it was done well...
But the Showcase and the fallout really managed to singlehandedly kill my interest in Playstation Studios games for the foreseeable future (outside of Spider-Man).
Hopefully, we can see some games that I will be interested in.
I think they purposely held back on this latest one. Why? Because Microsoft is the one with something to prove in its showcase. If they have those rumoured two incredible games, then Sony can respond in kind. That coupled with the dire Factions news seems to suggest Sony is not wanting to get burned from the start or to play it’s hand too early.
@patronmacabre bro we haven’t seen gameplay of any of theses live service games yet to really judge them.
This is a given.
PS5 Slim announcement ?
It was pretty obvious they would after that showcase, they obviously have a lot more for us that are way closer to release and a lot of third party releasing within the next 12 months such as Stellar Blade, FF7 Reunion, Ronin, Silent Hill, The devil Inside and Pragmata. Plus the PlayStation Q and the Playstation 5 with detachable hard drive.
"Sony will announce more games"
No kidding, I thought they were going to discontinue the PS5 after one bad showcase.
It's absolutely ridiculous to hold onto some hope that Sony held onto things to show in the coming weeks aside from a closer to release spider boy ad. There is no world where Sony is like, "yahhhhh let's just the do the crap showcase first," only to save some more exciting reveals for later this summer/fall. I suspect the rest of the showcases will be mostly obligatory 3rd party adds.
Thinking that more great reveals are to come, is just setting oneself a up for additional disappointment beyond that already lingers for most from that abysmal state of play,.... Ooops I mean first showcase in years.....
And it will be just as disappointing as this last one because whoever does the content curation for these showcases is extremely out-of-touch with what the hardcore fanbase wants to see. No one who thinks having CGI trailers for live services and a Gran Turismo movie trailer in a showcase should be planning these things.
@RBMango exactly
Jim’s no doubt got something else he wants to sell, at a premium price, that’s made of plastic.
Colin has just been on a podcast an hour ago and also said that his sources (which are usually within Sony PR directly) told him this.
@ErrantRob @UltimateOtaku91 I don't want to say it was blindingly obvious, but it definitely did feel like they were holding back. All those things announced in previous years, like Wonder Woman, KOTOR, Silent Hill? Nonexistent. Even if they won't be getting gameplay trailers or anything, it's likely they'll be dusted off as a reminder. Or we could all be wrong and there's nothing coming whatsoever!
@BusyOlf That's a dildo, and it probably vibrates better than a dualshock 3.
I'm wondering. Do Sony have that many 3rd party devs that want to announce at Sony events, that Sony had to cut content like the rumours are saying.
@BeerIsAwesome battery certainly will last longer!
If FF7 Reunion is coming this year, or early next one, they are likely obliged to have a showcase by their exclusivity agreement.
Really don’t expect much from them for this year. Some claim Sony is changing but I doubt they will ever announce a full triple A game sooner than 12 months away from launch, and this worries me about what will be on the docket for next year. If next year is about Wolverine and Ghost of Tsushima 2, we would basically need to hear about GoT by the end of the year.
Crazy but actually wishing we got some remake reveals, since those would be much more likely to be announced within 3 to 6 months from release. Or a lesser budget game like a Sackboy platformer or another Miles Morales scale spinoff to... anything.
Edit: Although we might still see Death Stranding 2 in the summer show…
@patronmacabre after GoW Ragnarok we’ve already been wondering what the future of PS studios single player games are outside of SM2 and Wolverine, and unfortunately we still don’t know, just have a few average CG trailers for GaaS games. I think Helldivers 2 looks interesting though
@Vivisapprentice I think Helldivers 2 could be fun. It's definitely not my kind of game, but it's a game I would be willing to buy on discount.
I am a tiny bit worried about Wolverine, but that's entirely because I've been an Insomniac fan for over twenty years. Insomniac games tend to be very movement focused, and Wolverine needs a hook to make it stand out.
Also, Vivi is fantastic!
@BusyOlf Ha! And it provides entertainment to more people!
Yeah its definitely gonna me more announcements.more games is welcome.word up son
I think people seem to assume there will be another big showcase at some point this year but i can really just see them doing a couple of state of plays instead.
I get the impression Sony prefers doing those instead of the big e3 style ones.
@Tharsman I agree. If Reunion is absolutely out this year, they’re saving something something for later, unless Square has their own show or Summer Game Fest or something (though that’d be a strange move for Square to show off anything with Keighley). For some reason, I feel like they’re waiting for FF16 to drop before they start advertising Reunion in any capacity.
I’m being hopeful this presentation was Sony showing its GAAS push more than anything else. I’d still like to believe they’ve got one more releases up their sleeve. And a lot of things they’ve pushed like Pacific Drive or Little Devil Inside, etc, we haven’t seen for a while. I think we’d all feel more confident if they started placing release dates on a timeline for the rest of the year. I mean, I’ll no doubt be fine with all my current preorders that I know of right now, but there has to be some transparency at this point with anything earmarked for “2023.” I’d rather things have a release date with the potential for a delay than no news at all and I think we’re all sort of in that boat.
Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony held back because of the Activision and Xbox showcase and are saving things for a clap back of sorts.
All that said, jeez, I really hope we get another Nintendo Direct or two this year. They’ve done such a marvelous job the first half of the year and it’s so strange to see their future release slate be essentially one game.
Of course there will be. I'm guessing shortly after Nintendo live in September.
I believe we may see some things at Summer Games fest. Death Stranding 2 is a given, but I'm thinking they'll have ONE more thing.
MK1 is going to be there so there's that too.
@somnambulance @Tharsman @UltimateOtaku91 FF7 Rebirth. Reunion came out last year in December.
Man I ain’t tryna hear that
There may well be another one, but I'm not going to put any stock into those rumours until we get more concrete info. Besides, there's no guarantee that the next one will be any better.
@AverageGamer lol what a mistake, I completed that as well 😅
The copium is out of control, people saying there’ll be a second showcase, Days Gone 2 in development and Sony reportedly buying CD Projekt Red…
None of this is true, it is what it is, people are having a hard time accepting that Sony had a disappointing showcase and are trying to make up for it literally coming up with rumors out of nowhere, who could seriously think that after waiting more than 600 days to make a showcase they would hold the major announcements until later in the year? It’s nonsense.
@AverageGamer I blame Square for their ridiculous naming conventions. From now on I’m just calling it Final Fantasy 7 Remake 2, or FF7R2 for short.
After the last showcase, it's hard to get excited from anything from PlayStation anymore.
I think Sony showing lots of 3rd party stuff was a clever move. The Xbox showcase is next, wat they gonna show? Starfield an Forza MS? Maybe Hellblade. That’s it.
I shall temper my hype then
I could see the PS5 Slim or all digital with the add on Disc drive being there. I really hope Last of us multiplayer even tho Bungie said the game had no way to hook players in and that don’t sound good. But that was my most hyped game for PS5. So will be nice to see what else is cooking.
@TheArtfulDodger there’s Rumor Indiana Jones will be there. Maybe Quake reboot from I.D, tho i am sure that’s not in playable form yet. Avowed will be shown for sure. Maybe compulsion’s new game is a light rumor and now Double Fine has leaked more to come soon. So i think serval titles outside of Forza and Starfield and HellBlade have a chance but of course those 3 will be there as they have upcoming release dates. Excited to see what they have as the Sony show left me a little underwhelmed unfortunately. As i was really looking forward to seeing Last of us multiplayer.
People need to stop the doom and gloom. Sony was never going to have much else for 2023 outside Spider-Man 2. We're lucky we're getting Helldivers 2 this year. So with that said, why is it a big deal that we have to wait until maybe later this year to hear more about 2024 plans? Look at Nintendo. Are we going to freak out b/c outside of Pikmin 4 we know nothing else from them? No we're not because we know they will announce more stuff later this year. Sony will do the same.
In other news, summer is hot and winter is cold.
I know sony is saving money by not doing a PSX anymore but man do I miss the PSX events......had so much fun at the last PSX in 2017
@PSfan4Life22
Greatness awaits and waits and waits. I’m hearing all these people say stay positive, be patient and PlayStation will deliver are really starting to resemble many Xbox fans that say, next year will be, THE year.
@OmegaStriver Wtf are you even talking about? Unlike Xbox, PlayStation has been spoiling their fans with games for years. 2020, 2021, and 2022 were all full of exclusive titles. 2023 is a bit slower but still has a lot to offer with PS VR2 titles, FF16, Forspoken, Spider-Man 2, and Helldivers 2. Heck we might still get other exclusives like Silent Hill 2 Remake and Stellar Blade. Don't even compare Sony and Microsoft's output as the Xbox Series X has been really poor since it launched.
All the showcase is is an advert. The advert is not the problem- the problem is games are taking longer due to complexity, there’s less because of money, there’s less variety in those games because of decisions that were made to shut certain studios or not green light weird stuff, there’s more live service games and free to start also because of money, and there’s more bugs and less fun because they know all these problems and developers are being rushed to finish.
There is no fix for lack of games overnight, but hyping all the time and suggesting ‘games are coming and it will all be better soon’ is angering people who don’t know why they invested in a big white plastic taco shell to collect dust under their tv.
Its funny reading comments, like I'm done with Playstation, or Playstation is doomed or Playstation has no games or im selling my playstation for an xbox.
Because those comments aren't true at all.
The frustrating part of all of this is this wasn't advertised as a Extended State Of Play (which it should of been, nothing in that showing was worthy of being under the title showcase apart from 1 or 2 things. We've had bigger State Of Play outings before.
This was Titled as a Showcase the biggest presentation Playstation puts out and we didn't get anything, that we didn't already know about or nearly anything from actual playstation studios.p
The facts still remains we still don't really know what coming after Spiderman.
But we do know for a fact
Bend has a game in the works
Santa Monica has a game in the works
Suckerpunch has a game in works
Bluepoint may have 2 games in the works
HouseMarque has a game in the works
Naughty Dog has 2 games in the works
Team Asobi has a game or 2 in the works
So this whole talk of live service games taking over, is a little ridiculous, we still get the great single play games we know and love alongside this new venture by Sony.
Its just unfortunate that Sony's marketing team and Jim Ryan just dont have a clue how to market or show off new things in an exciting way.
Sony and Playstation think its Jim Ryan steering the ship to all this success what they dont realise is that its just Playstation as a brand from the beginning of the launch of ps4 which is making this whole success of playstation right now.
@MrGawain isn't this the problem. People saying lack of games. Xbox has a lack of games, not being a fanboy but over there is the pinnacle of what no games looks like.
Playstation on the other hand, within 3 years of PS5 being out we have had;
Demon Souls
Sack Boy BIG Adventure
Spiderman/Miles PS5
God Of War Ragnarok
Horizon Forbidden West
The Last Of Us Part 1
FF 7 PS5
FF 16 incoming
Spiderman 2 incoming
I know I'm probably missing a few more exclusives
But thats a hell of a lot of exclusives for just 3 years and then add in some great third party games, we are literally flooded with games each and every month.
We have all just become very impatient and have short term memory, people expect first party games to come out every konth it seems otherwise we have no games
The copium has been out of control since the showcase. So many insiders trying to save face, and failing miserably. Its OK, your not an insider, and now we know it. No need to make up more stuff, yet again. Switch pro anyone?
Sony had a bad show, it happens, making games is long and hard. Things are just not ready yet. Why so many people can't seem to accept that, is crazy.
Post Spider-Man 2 first party showcase.
#InJimWeTrust ✊🏻
@Bez87
There are exclusives for the PS5 like Ratchet and Clank, but a lot of the games you listed are remakes or also available on the PS4. I can’t be the only person scratching my head why I bought a new console when Ragnarok/Miles Morales/Sackboy/Horizon/Last Of Us/FF7 are available on the thing I already have and in most cases for less money.
Both Xbox and PlayStation have yet to show us where ‘next generation’ actually is. We’ve got the sizzle but not the steak.
I don’t really need Sony to show me anything. I already know what most studios are working on and I know they will give us enough bangers.
But I think Sony needs to tell potential buyers why they better buy a PlayStation. So holding back on announcements can hurt that.
I just wonder when PSVR will be worth it. I’m still waiting for an absolute must-have title on the levels of Alyx.
Feels most likely to be a Spider-Man 2 State of Play, a general 3rd party State of Play and a FFVII Rebirth State of Play.
Definitely not a showcase, otherwise the name of the recent showcase wouldn't have been called "Playstation Showcase 2023".
@MrGawain I dont disagree with you.
But in reality yes they are remakes, but the remakes are from games what came out within the last year of the PS4.
Spiderman, Ghost Of Tushisma and the likes and we was always going to get the cross gen games at the beginning. So in that way of thinking, I expect the next big wave of games are going to come in 2024 and 2025 from all the big first party studios.
I'm satisfied with buying a PS5, load times alone is worth it. Trying to go back to PS4 and waiting for games to load and trying to download games.
But I think the point im trying to get at is we all know Playstation always delivers on its first party single player games and reality is we all know deep down they are coming, its frustrating having to wait for information but we have the studios.
I'm still waiting for Xbox to show me their first party original games to have a reason to buy an Xbox series X and even now after 3 years, there is nothing. I dont have the same confidence I do with Playstation, as their first party line up isn't consistent, apart from Forza.
I think us playststion fans have alot to be happy for and look forward to.
Based on what we 'understand', I would be surprised if we do have another 'Showcase'. I would expect a State of Play or 2 (Spider-Man 2) but the reality is that 'most' Studio's have released something in the past 2-3yrs and haven't really had the time to perhaps have something to reveal - other than perhaps a CGI trailer announcing what game they are making next but still 'years' away from release.
No doubt they could reveal what Guerrilla is making next, what Santa Monica or Sucker Punch are working on, but then you'd be waiting 2-3 yrs to get some 'game-play' video''s before releasing a year or so later.
Its up to Sony of course - announce what games they have in development but gamers have to wait a LONG time to play them, may end up cancelled or changed etc or wait until they are 'ready' to announce. Its a good job they didn't announce 'everything' with several 'cancellations' of games announced...
Well they definitely need to, but more likely State of Plays.
@PSfan4Life22 I was specifically talking about PlayStation first party true PS5 titles that push the tech, not cross-gen titles or third party titles. I should have made that clear.
When it comes to actual high caliber PS5 titles, the wait continues.
Alright, but next one I'll watch the day after so I can fast-forward most of it.
@dschons I’m a Patron of Sacred Symbols. Which video was it?
@CP2 it wasn't on Sacred Symbols. He was a guest at Iron Lords.
@Bez87 Yeah, missing some big ones, e.g. Returnal (still my favorite ps5 game) and Ratchet
@Bez87 Making your PS studios/games list even more impressive:
-ND has at least 3 projects in the works (confirmed this with their recent statement about Factions, mentioning their other in-development “games” in addition to Factions)
-You forgot Guerrilla, who has at least 1-2 games that are likely 2024 release, in addition to Horizon 3
-You forgot Insomniac, who has Wolverine and likely the next Ratchet game, in addition to SM2.
RE: your comment: “ But we do know for a fact
Bend has a game in the works
Santa Monica has a game in the works
Suckerpunch has a game in works
Bluepoint may have 2 games in the works
HouseMarque has a game in the works
Naughty Dog has 2 games in the works
Team Asobi has a game or 2 in the works”
@dschons Ah, gotcha. Thanks.
@CP2 That is exactly what I'm talking about, I can't fault Playstation who always deliver on single player games, whenever they come, im not going to doubt them.
Its just so frustrating that they titled their big presentation a showcase and basically showed nothing but Spoderman 2, can't class Fairgames or Concord because we got nothing but CGI trailers. It was just poor.
It does give Xbox the upper hand in their Showcase in a few weeks, which I'm looking forward to seeing if they will deliver on the promise of first party original games, which Phil Spencer has been saying since he took the job.
But again we couldn't come up with a list with as many triple A games which are always top notch.
Even Halo was a let down, Gears hasn't been great, Fable no where to be seen, now redfall, nothing to be said and then they have Starfield coming and in my opinion will be a buggy mess as normal for those games and the graphics look more like mid gen PS4 to me, nothing of that game screams next gen.
There is an actual indie game on pc right now which is basically Starfield but better and was developed by 1 single guy and its a little rough around the edges but its actually a solid game.
https://youtu.be/MdlOG5XjKKY
Just take a look at this game and starfield can't even launch your ship without a cut scene.
And everyone is hyped for it and yet 1 guy has basically made a better game, imagine if this guy had a team behind him to smooth it out. Its ridiculous
In a few weeks it will be 2 years since Sony released a PS5 game (a PS4 game with higher res/frame rate it not a PS5 game) and we still don't have any release dates for any of their games nor know much about their roadmap.
This is what happens when they don't have any competition.
You won’t hear about ff7 rebirth till 16 comes out then I’m sure they’ll go full gear with that. Same with Wolverine you won’t hear anything till Spider-Man 2 is released. It makes perfect sense in that you need to save announcements for later
When will Sony be great again?
Wooo, Cat Quest DLC incoming! I'm feeling lucky!
@Loftimus @UltimateOtaku91 I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get another "Showcase" in September, not the first time it's ever happened.
@Grumblevolcano Hmm yeah, I could see them going that route instead. Maybe replace the FF7 Rebirth State of Play with another 3rd party State of Play that will feature FF7 Rebirth?
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