Update 2: Following up on his previous ResetEra posts, Jason Schreier says that God of War Ragnarok has not been delayed — and that's apparently according to a Sony source.
"As usual, this is not a guarantee that the game will come out in 2022 and video game development is so turbulent that you should never trust a release date until the product in question is in your hands. But this Gamereactor report appears to be false," Schreier wrote.
Given Schreier's track record, we're inclined to believe that his source is reliable — but that doesn't change the fact that Sony will have to date its PS5 and PS4 blockbuster soon if it is still set for a 2022 release.
Update: Bloomberg journalist Jason Schreier, who tends to be a good source for game related information, posted the following about the delays on the ResetEra forum: "It's hard to definitely prove a negative but Someone Who Would Know Firsthand just told me they haven't heard anything about a slip to 2023, as did Someone Else Who Might Know Secondhand."
It's a little cryptic as we obviously don't know exactly who Schreier spoke to, but seems like word of a delay is new to them at least. We've contacted Sony and will update if and when we hear back.
Original Story: Uh oh, this is potentially the news that no one wants to hear: God of War Ragnarok has reportedly been delayed out of its targeted 2022 release window and into 2023. The rumour comes from Gamereactor Spain, who cite "various European sources". The PS5 and PS4 sequel was originally meant to launch in 2021, you may recall, before a delay was confirmed that summer.
Of course, rumours like this are bound to pop up when everyone's so eager for a blockbuster like Ragnarok to get a release date — Sony's continued silence on the topic is basically leaving the door open for every "insider" on the planet to get in on this gossip.
But it's still hard to shake the feeling that something's going on with Ragnarok. Santa Monica Studio devs have been saying for a while that the game's targeting 2022. It even published a quick video earlier this year saying that the game wasn't "ready to share", but then reiterated that it was still on for the year ahead.
It's all been very quiet since, which is the real worry. We're now over a week into June and we still don't have an update — which has naturally led some to believe that Ragnarok might show during Summer Game Fest. One thing's clear: if we don't get a release date soon — as in, the next couple of months soon — then it's not looking good for the return of Kratos in 2022.
If there's a silver lining to rumours like this, it's that they may prompt a response from the involved parties. We'll obviously update this article should that happen. In the meantime, we've reached out to Sony for a comment on the rumoured delay.
[source gamereactor.es, via resetera.com]
I think this was expected, although a little surprising considering the game seemed to be done. Nonetheless, I won’t be shocked if this doesn’t release this year.
'Various European sources' could be anyone to be fair though. That could be those Ukrainian blokes who won Eurovision
Goddamit can we just leave the devs in peace. We know the game's gonna be great. I have been looking forward to it but at least I still got to play Elden Ring and Hogwarts Legacy is coming out soon
This was always expected. I don't know why they kept reinforcing 2022.
@Bionic-Spencer It would, but I think they don't want to announce anything until they're 100% sure they can hit it, because obviously delays lead to disappointment.
So I suppose that's why you've not heard anything.
Really not surprised by this at all, if it is true. Will just give it more time to cook in the oven. The bar is set pretty high after GOW 2018. Can't wait.
So many delays this year already, can already expect games like the new star ocean, granblue fantasy relink and valkyrie elysium to get delays as well. There's already been some high profile delays such as starfield, BoTW 2, Redfall, Forspoken and suicide squad.
What next, hogwarts legacy and sonic frontiers are likely
If GoW R is delayed again something is clearly going wrong with Santa Monica. GoW 2018s development was already very messy and troubled
@IonMagi There could be problems with the project, or it could just be that coronavirus set them back much more than they anticipated.
There's no point in speculating, because we'll probably never know.
GOW 2018 got a release date in February and released in April so I imagine they really are gonna make a last minute choice. I say last minute because I don't think Sony wants it to come out in the final quarter of the year so that means up to September 30th. So that means July at the latest for a release date.
Called it. Hopefully Instinction doesn't share the same fate.
@IonMagi i mean they had the covid situation and the voice of kratos being sick in the middle of development cycle. There is a lot of reasons for it to not being complete right now not necessary being the studio the problem but the thing is, sony admon already knew this they showing gameplay was just a stupid decision.
@get2sammyb Then the Game was in such an early shape in 2020 that Sony knew the the "2021" Release year was never going to happen.
@JudgeDredd as much I LOVE Forbidden West you're right. 2 months delay would have had the game in a much better state than it was at launch. It's in some ways a different game today than back on Feb 18th. Might have avoided direct ER competition too. As for Ragnorok, I'll wait for official confirmation.
Good news for me, gave more time to save money for nice tv and PS5 waiting to find it in a good place.
and save money for PS VR2
If true is going to be sad that another awesome ps game is going to have no lights because RE4, Zelda, FF or even Spiderman 2 (and maybe they are going to delay that one too lol) are going to eat it up.
If it gets pushed back to next year than fine. Let Sony Santa Monica take their time and make this game as great as we all hope it will be, don't rush it out and put it out when it's nowhere near ready. People just need to be patient.
The coronavirus definitely affected the production of this game like many others so let them take their time.
Also Cory Barlog and whatever game he's supposedly working on which will probably be awesome.
A delay is fine. Means the game will be polished and hopefully no crunch
Not a surprise!
Technically a game cant be delayed without a release date 🤷♂️ it's just missed its internal target. Look at the hysteria around Starfield's delay for an explanation as to why Sony wants to be sure it can hit its release date before announcing it publicly
It would be mighty disapointing for Sony if this slips though. This would have been huge for them over the holiday period with Starfield slipping.
But if it has to be delayed to make it as good as it can be, why wouldn't we want that. No one will remember the delays. But they will remember a game not hitting its full potential
Looks like Forspoken and LOU Remake are going to be the big holiday releases for Playstation.
@IonMagi Fair! Again, we'll never know what the roadblocks were.
Not gonna overreact yet as it's not confirmed but if it is then oh boy...
A wait this long for what looks like God Of War 1.5 in terms of reusing assets, no major shift in graphical fidelity and it being a cross gen title.
Especially given the way Sony and SSM have handled communication this year.
It will be a sh*tshow given this was initially announced as a 2021 game and I'd be willing to bet it went through some development hell.
‘It's all been very quiet since,..,’
Your ‘forgetting’ the accessibility video
I think gamereactor isn’t very reliable. They often post ‘news’ sometimes weeks after everyone.
If it means there is a wider variety of boss fights rather than different flavours of the same troll boss, I'm glad!! I'd rather wait for a better, more complete and smooth experience.
@DonJorginho GoW 2018 was already one of the best looking games ever so this idea that it HAD to look way better is really unreasonable. Same goes for this 1.5 DLC nonsense, it's a sequel to a highly acclaimed game so god forbid they don't want to fix what's not broken.
The scope of this game must be much, much larger than 2018’s. Maybe I’m wrong, but I believe that game’s development cycle was about 5 years, and they were developing all of their systems from scratch. Of course, Covid happened and there were reported health issues during the sequel’s development but if this delay is true, I can’t help but think that we’re in for a gigantic game to wrap up the Norse story. I’m still expecting a winter 2022 release.
If so then 2023 is going to be mental for games
@DonJorginho I'll give them the benefit of the doubt given how much of an improvement HFW on PS4 was over HZD on PS4. But yeah, what they've shown was mindblowing graphically so it's a wonder why it's taking so long, aside from Covid issues. If they really are reusing some of the other realms from the 2018 game then that should have made it easier. Maybe there is a huge new section that will justify the time taken 🤷🏾♂️
yeah, something is not going right with this development. I mean they literally are reusing the ps4 engine, locations and animations. I am guessing the actual story arc implementation is not up to expectations or possibly internal conflicts at the studio. We've literally seen next to nothing of this game.
Either way, these cross-gen games being delayed years into a new console generation is getting a bit ridiculous when you consider what that means for actual current gen exclusive content in the near future. It will be barren.
If true, I hope it comes with an announcement that the PS4 version has been ditched and that it’s the reason for the delay. I’d love to see what this game could do without the previous gen shackles.
Dunno why people bother, I only get hyped for games when's about a month to release.
Even if I do want devs to take their time, this is a bit too many delays for my taste. This is why Insomniac are GOAT.
Disappointing if true but not entirely unexpected. There's always delays and with MS probably only having a Gears remaster collection and Forza for the holidays, pressure was lessened on Sony. I also figured something was up when Forspoken got delayed. Obviously with that being a third party game it's not 100% related but Sony does have a timed exclusive (at least) on that and it being delayed allowed the company to position that as a big, and maybe now the big, PS5 fall/holiday release.
I said it all along & got hate on this site. Its obvious it's being delayed! Not a small delay either I don't think we see this until late 2023! Trust me if it was a small delay sony would have announced it by now. Forget about this game it's way off
If a big game is not pushed back at least twice the date won't hold
Well it's either true or it's not.
@carlos82 no because we will see even mote delay. The thing is some of these games won't even make next year. They are way off
@Danloaded why do you care about crunch? I know plenty of people who have to work 60 hour weeks. What about nurses, GPS ect?
Was expected, anything is better than the mess CyberPunk was at launch. Take as much time as you need
Really not surprising if so. I'm not sure how a game that was supposed to be DLC for a 2018 game by a super experienced team, building on the same game from before ends up delayed twice (or is that 3 times?), but based on Cory's comments on the "2022" timeline the last time it was delayed, I've felt we've known from the beginning that regardless of what HQ's PR spits out, the on-the-ground sense was that 2022 was far from certain, even then.
This could just be random attention grabbing and may mean nothing, but I really don't think anyone should be surprised at all if it's true, Cory kinda-sorta hinted that 2022 wasn't really certain, a year ago, like a day after PR said 2022.
I just hope if true people back off on the console war criticism of MS's delays. There's delays. It's 2022. The biggest and best do it. It's just where it is. 2020 has been delayed to 2024, we apologize for the inconvenience, please understand.
@yellowdog05 agreed. I was bummed when it was announced as a cross gen title, and looked exactly the same as GOW
@JJ2 "I think gamereactor isn’t very reliable. They often post ‘news’ sometimes weeks after everyone."
So does NL/PS
@TheArt the best way, I'm happy with my current games an am looking forward to Stray and Sonic Origins beyond that I don't care too much about what's coming
Yea right. A broken clock can be right and Yadi yada.
They just need to calm down with rumours right and left and wait for official announcement.(which is very soon I think)
Literally a few hours before there was an article on IGN saying ‘confirmed’ this September
@Amusei why would you say that? Are you happy to wait years for games? How about don't announce the game until its a year away instead of 3 or 4 years. That would be better. No need to get peoples hopes up
@NEStalgia exactly they are one of the best sires & I believe them. The game is a long long way off. You'll see
@get2sammyb Just like with FFXVI, the PlayStation Store page for GoW:R got updated today a day before an event. Hopefully we get some clarity tomorrow with GameFest.
Woof... that sort of kills holiday release for me.
We all knew that was coming.
Lol, that sounds about right. That’s the PS4 Pro 2 for you.
Launch game for ps5 Pro calling it now..
At this point, I just assume all games will be delayed. I don't even care anymore.
"I just hope if true people back off on the console war criticism of MS's delays."
Games get delayed. It happens. But Sony and Nintendo still manage to turn out high-profile first-party exclusives basically every year.
Microsoft is the only company I've seen that mismanages its teams to the extent that they have numerous and extensive first-party droughts like this.
If it comes in 2023 then it is what it is.if it comes in 2022 cool.my backlog of games is huge.i got to many games to play.i can wait for another god of war masterpiece. 🐐. 👑.word up son
@B_Lindz same here that's why I don't preorder games anymore. It's pointless because you know the game will be delayed at least once if not twice. Shouldn't take your money straight away on the store. Microsoft don't do that only sony
@Ralizah Well, if GoW is delayed and HFW was last year's delayed game, that means GT7 is the only "2022" game, really. Well, and Ghostwire which technically is an MS game. And MLB if the annual sports game is fair to compare against other things.
MS definitely has mismanaged teams, ESPECIALLY 343, but aside from that, so far they've delayed 2 Bethesda games and the world is freaking out. I get that Sony's had more recent releases than MS, but most of that isn't about overall mismanagement and more about the fact that they didn't even have most of the studios until post 2018, so even if they were well managed their oldest games in the pipeline from all but the ever-incompetent 343 are all a maximum of 4 years in the making. And we see with GoW:R that 4 years may be a bit too soon to ask for results. Some fingers can be pointed at Rare, for sure, but Rare's always consumed by their GaaS SoT (same problem coming soon to a PS studio near you), plus their other half is basically MS's version of MM....
@NEStalgia It... doesn't work like that, though. HFW released in 2022, so it's a 2022 game. I've never seen anyone argue that a game doesn't belong to its release year just because it suffered a delay. By that logic, probably most games out there don't belong to their release year, because most games, I'm pretty sure, suffer some delays, even if they're never communicated to the public.
Ghostwire is an interesting case. I guess I'll just say it's a bad look when the PS5 has received more first-party support from Microsoft this year than their own console has.
Anyway, people are freaking out because Microsoft has had so little worthwhile first-party content for so long, and of the few projects that were supposed to release this year, at least two have already been delayed into 2022.
I'm not saying you have to be dissatisfied with the console. But I don't think you have to be a console warrior to notice that Microsoft is still struggling to put out first-party content compared to the competition..
Ideally the game ends up being on track to release this year, and 2022 is the final year we see any first party games that are released cross-gen for PS4 and PS5 with everything being PS5 only going forward.
@Rob_230 You realise they already slapped a date of 2021 on it don’t you? 🙃
Personally I’m still of the thinking this will hit late this year. We shall see.
i don't blame you guys for posting this , but it feels like there is way too much news from " sources" that turn out to be not even true. i'd take everything with a grain of salt till its actually announced these days.
@Ralizah Yeah, I mean I don't think anyone's saying MS has put out much content in a long time. But I just get weary of the conversation always presenting it as mismanagement (other than 343 that is VERY clearly mismanaged) and Rare that's kind of a unique case, when the reality is the had essentially 3 studios all last generation and only started building out studios in the run-up to this generation at a time when games take 4-8 years to make...like...what did anybody expect would happen?
If Jim totally runs PS aground with an oversaturation of failed GaaS, and the next leader tries to right the ship with content that actually is popular and it takes most of the PS6's life to do it, it wouldn't be fair for MS/Nintendo fans to keep pointing figures at PS's "incompetence" if they've turned around and need time for the result Yeah, XB was gutted and literally had no output possible for most of a generation. If after 4-7 years of proper "next gen" development time it's still a wasteland, then, yeah, something's wrong. But nobody knew it wouldn't take time, and Sony's studios running into delays etc shows it's not just MS's 2021/2022 targeted output hitting the delays for games started in the 2018 timeframe. PS just had more in the queue from before then still pending while MS had absolutely nothing in the pipe from back then.
Not saying it doesn't make the PS experience better for exclusives right now, it does. Just that the finger pointing for them messing up currently isn't taking into account the actual situation most knew going in.
Except 343. Great goodness so many fingers should be pointing rightly there for incompetence.... Big foam fingers. Foam middle fingers....
This smells like a load of farts in the wind to me, and I've always been critical of the presumption it would get delayed into '23.
It's as if the gaming community had an over-correction at some point from being too optimistic for early releases and not appreciating the work needed, to suddenly mass predicting that all non-anual games would get a delay because that's what we became used to .
Let's look at this practically. It was originally announced for 2021, and while that may have been a bit unrealistic/marketingy to begin with, it must have had some foundation in reality.
-Last year we also saw gameplay - lots of it, that was no vertical slice. It's safe to say the game had been largely put together at that point.
-Unlike GOW 2018, the foundations for this game were in place. The engine was already built, as we're a large proportion of assets. Basic design decisions were done, the script likely already had a good structure. Essentially there is far less workload and production time needed for this game.
-Artists on the project have long said the game is playable, and Santa Monica were early this year very heavy handed in their affirmations that the game would release this year.
-Voice actors playing major roles on the project have stated their work is finished on the project which means that all those final call-backs for additional dialogue often done very soon before release have concluded.
I think the game is clearly in some sort of near-finished state. The only possible reason I can imagine for a delay to next year would be something catastrophic (I can't say what) or a need to redesign something fundamental due to something like overwhelming negative play-tester feedback, which honestly I doubt knowing the caliber of talent at Santa Monica and the fact that likely 90% of the game mechanics are returning from God of War, and already critic and consumer approved.
It's of-course possible and I could have egg on my face, but it just seems more likely that these "rumours" are the last anxious twitches from the fans and press before the fears are hopefully soon put to bed, likely in a release-dated showcase or trailer coming sooner than people think.
It’s a bad source, doubt it’s getting delayed
After thinking about, a delay is fine. They need to get everything they can out of the PS4. Because, you know the PS4 owners haven’t got their moneys worth yet. Hell, delay it till 2024 or 2025 if we can get another fantastic PS4 game.
@NEStalgia Well, I could also point to the way they bungled the Xbox 360's output late in its life, or the way their collaboration with Platinum fell through, or Crackdown 3, etc. It's not JUST a lack of resources before 2018. And, frankly, it's not like their internal studios developing games is their only option. They could collaborate more with third-parties like Nintendo has increasingly done this generation (Mario + Rabbids; all of the Nintendo musou games; the Famicom Detective Club remakes; the Advance Wars remakes; etc.) They could temporarily go back to their early 360 ways and pay for timed exclusivity for major projects. They could commission games to release exclusively on their platforms, like Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2 & 3 and Astral Chain. Microsoft is, to be clearly, an immensely bigger company than either of their rivals could hope to be. It's not like the Xbox brand is some scrappy start-up that found itself competing with the big boys.
Anyway, if Jim ran the Playstation brand into the ground and they had to spend most of a generation with a first-party drought as a result under new leadership, I don't think it'd be incorrect to say that situation was a result of their own incompetence.
Microsoft has an interesting game plan lined up for this generation, but it's on them to make good on it and prove that Xbox is worth investing in again. When they continually suffer long droughts, delay most of their projects, etc., then, yes, it looks very incompetent.
Maybe that changes. I hope it does. But so far, all we have are promises for the future and what is probably a VERY expensive to maintain game subscription service in the form of Xbox GamePass.
They can take a long as they like. They already ruined my hopes for the Nordic storyline by making it two games. There's zero chance they'll be able to flesh out everything they set up in the first game. It's going to feel rushed and unsatisfying.
I don't mind waiting but if SONY said this was going to be a 2021 game before(when first teased) I don't get why it would come out in 2023 now??? Very odd. Like I said I don't mind because I still have a back-log of games to play this year(I just started KENA)
@Saitama117 I agree. To explore this mythology fully and make the fights with Thor and Odin as meaningful as they should be they needed an entire extra game. We all know that nowadays you just can't do much in the span of 5 years. It sounds crazy, but it's true.
If this is the case, Sony ain't got sh#t to release the rest of the year besides that second Last of Us remaster that nobody asked for.
@yellowdog05 I hope they announce it will release on top end pc's only so the ps5 won't be holding it back....
Surely these people could have worked from home during the 'pandemic' its all mostly tipity tap on a keyboard ffs
@Deljo Coordination and decision making is nearly impossible though. Making games is ridiculously hard.
Bloomberg is not a reliable source of video game news. Maybe Jason is, I don’t know either way, but I wouldn’t ever repeat anything written on Bloomberg (for gaming).
@Would_you_kindly When they start launching day and date on PC then you have an argument.
@yellowdog05 well you may not have to wait long for that. Another reliable leaker says The shameless 2nd cash grab : the last of us remake, is releasing in September day and date on pc and console.
So the big game for fall is just another uninspired retread. Yay.....
@Ralizah To be fair the late 360 into the early x1 was all part of the same disastrous leaderships big plan that lead to no studios at all.... It's all the same failure like a slow motion trainwreck. And they are starting the outside collaborative efforts like crystal dynamics etc. I do understand why they're gunshy to do anything they don't own the ip to. They did that early and it burned them badly. If they had held their ips, Mass Effect, and the like would be theirs. Sunset overdrive, now Sony's, etc.
Sony had a lot of the same problem back then. That's why ps mini and plus premium suck. Most of the best games old ps was known for weren't really Sony games. But they started building ips and MS only started 4 years ago....
It just seems wrong to point to decade old failings under different leaders rather than look at what's actually planned and how things are handled today. If we're looking that far back we have to talk Nintendo with late Wii into wiiu. They righted that ship. I think it's fair to believe Ms will too. If they don't, well, then we'll hit the bottom eventually 😂
@Ralizah My issue with MS is that a lot of their games get released and get finished after liveservice the thing i hate the most.
Schreier is a pretty reliable reporter - his sources are probably the real ones.
I'd imagine we'll find out either way very soon with Summer Game Fest being less than 18 hours away.
Miyazaki wins goty yet again
European sources: DELAYED!!
Someone Who Would Know Firsthand & Someone Else Who Might Know Secondhand: just told me they haven't heard anything about a slip to 2023.
So unknown sources and unknown sources from europe. This is what journalism has devolved to?
Not surprised. Sony always plays with our expectations and plain lies. Remember when it promised that GoW2 was going to be a ps5 release window game? I have a comment from two years ago where I called this 2023 BS. Sony is not really trustworthy on this matters.
@Oscarjpc So game delays are now lying to people lol... Also Sony absolutely never said it was going to be a launch window game. The teaser just said 2021 and then the real trailer never even mentioned a date.
Dude games are insanely hard to make even when things are going well. They are far more difficult to make than movies.
Eh I’d rather they get this arc over with.
Norse mythology is so overplayed these days. That’s why it took me five tries over three years to finally beat the game. I never got invested in the world or the mythology. The only thing that invested me when I played it the final time was the relationship between Kratos and Atreus.
@Flaming_Kaiser Yeah no argument there. But like Ralizah said they've released so little it's kind of hard to tell. FH is a service... Kind of? But now all racing games are so that's a bad indicator. I'm trusting what we've seen to mean a lot of non service games coming (wherever they do arrive). If it's all service I'm not at all impressed.
From what they said though it's logical business that with gp as the focus, services is bad for business precisely because they keep people tied to one game and not sampling many, which is their bread and butter now. Fingers crossed, at any rate!
If its delayed, we'll hear about it tonight, if it is maybe they cut off some disappointment by giving a solid release date.
Am very convinced this game is in development hell
I wouldn’t be surprised, but I would be bummed. Really itching to swing that axe again.
Not surprising at all, if the September 2022 rumors for TLOU1 Remake are true.
Though TBH I think it'd make more sense to release Ragnarok in September, and then delay TLOU1 Remake to Holiday 2022 or Spring 2023.
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@IonMagi Not really. There are so many things that could have happened, that to draw any conclusions from it is just naive.
@Oscarjpc you may wanna look up the definition of a "lie".
@PhhhCough "So unknown sources and unknown sources from europe. This is what journalism has devolved to?"
Yes. And judging by the reaction here, it comes as no surprise. The best part is when rumours are treated as fact and when a game is finally announced, there is backlash over the "delay", even though a date was never announced.
We as a community completely deserve this kind of journalism.
@This_Guy Exactly. Bloomberg have lost all credibility when it comes to video game news.
@Carl-G sometimes you try something and it doesn't work. Then in order to fix that, you may need days, months, or even years depending on how small or big it was.
Maybe they focused too much on Atreus' mom and the end result wasn't as satisfying as they thought it would be. Or Atreus ended up being way too annoying and unlikable. So it's back to the drawing board. What do you keep, what do you cut out and what do you replace it with? Just a thought.
@OrtadragoonX That doesn't change the facts that they are not giving themselves enough time to make story as impactful as GOW 3.
@NEStalgia If they had issues with people being attached to a very limited selection of games they wouldn't put CoD on Game Pass (there's so many people who would subscribe just to get their CoD and sports fix), they'd instead kill off the franchise once the acquisition goes through.
What seems most likely is all the multiplayer games are live service to try and help maintain playerbases but games like Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 are traditional single player games.
@PoopScoop yes. Poop. It is lying when you purposely write 2021 to promote PS5 sales and YOU KNOW for a fact that your game is not even 50% done and will NEVER ship in 2021 in the middle of a lockdown.
Why the teaser didn't just say SOON or COMING? Not in a million years they would write in the teaser WE DON'T KNOW or IN 2 YEARS (no rush to buy our new console).
They purposely lied and manipulated people expectations.
Keep defending a Corporation that doesn't even know your name. Remember it is a plastic box you paid for. You are the customer. You can and should call out the BS on your investment.
@Oscarjpc actual source that it wasn't 50% done when they announced it?
@Grumblevolcano Yeah, I'm not sure what the mix/dynamic they're targeting beyond them discussing that too many services are bad because it kills engagement which is the lifeblood of a sub.
That said, I think a lot of us are predicting that annual CoD goes away and Warzone becomes the main multiplayer game, anyway. It's already becoming the more popular online part even without MS, it matches Halo's business model, is an MTX cash cow, and that means "multiplayer CoD" is an F2P game that doesn't involve GP at all, so it works out tidily. If they do more campaigns they can be paid/subscription entries.
But the first few years with the old "annual" game still planned that's going to be rough on the service for sure.
Rumor probably being spread by xbox and Phil “were not taking games away from the majority playerbase” Spencer
Stupid story over nothing and as per usual the embittered entitled are here to fume at how unfair it all is, and how evil Sony is for not delivering.
Its all rather pathetic to the point im simply laughing at how easy it is to get people worked up.
Its clear the oruginal story was poop, published by a hack who knew the frezy such a rumour would produce. I suspect we will still see the game this year, but right now guessing is what we have and nobidy genuinely knows anything till a proper announcement is made.
They deliberately have not given a publish date as, untill you approach test and polish phase, you could have a code or gameplay mechanic issue which may need more time to fix.
Once they publish an expected date, you know its on track, and only a really big issue would mean a delay. Im looking forward to a release date annoucement!
By all means, people. Keep believing in rumours.
Till the next one!
@Titntin Sony are lying liars who lie. I tellz ya.
@naruball The truth is 2025. 😂
Regardless of the update here, if Sony/Studio doesn't announce the release date this month, which they likely won't, then this game IS NOT coming out this year. There is no way in hell this game will be announced in some mythical September showcase with a release date 1-3 months later. no way.
Really sick of all the rumor mongers peddling BS the week of all the major showcases. Can we not just wait until Summer Game Fest stuff is over before speculating and making stuff up out of whole cloth? Clearly the grifters have learned this works in their favor, but I really hope some of these people get left in the dust.
@NEStalgia Microsofts management of dev studios is simply a matter of fact at this point. 343 is obvious and what they have donecto Rare is unforgivable.
With the clout they have and the kind of tools available off shelf such as ue5, you could get a game out in 2 years if you were managed effectively. Insomniac appear to be able to mange that despite buildung their own tech, use ue5 and you can pop a game out much quicker, the tools are specifically there to speed development... This gen should see games made quicker, not slower.
Being an MS appologist as you are, Id fully expect you to still be saying 'just a few more years' in two years time. Dont let me down please 😛
@naruball Not you too! Lols
Its delayed & soon it will be confirmed
@Ryany source: trust me bro
@KundaliniRising333 all the leaks I've seen report that it'll release early September on PS5 but not PC until later.
@Titntin I just think it's an unfair approach to keep pointing at their past under past leaders, and not their present and stated goalposts. People keep pointing at "look what they did 10 years ago!" That was a different company. Xbox was a subsidiary under the Windows product team, not even their own division in the company. Gaming strategy was set based on what was good for Windows and SQL Server, not what was good for gaming. We know the past, we were there for it, it sucked mightily. 6 year ago I was arguing with XB fans on NL that X1 would be MS' last console and they'd be out of gaming by now. I was wrong. I'm looking at what's going on since the restructuring, not their battered past.
343....definitely still battered. Rare....IDK, I think Rare's problem is that nearly everyone who we think of as "Rare" left when they were bought out. In reality they were fading even before the buyout which is why Ninty didn't want them and they were looking for buyers to begin with. It's a new staff there and they kinda suck, but SoT is pretty popular. It's not for me, but people seem to like what they're doing....
You're not serious about 2 year turnarounds for new AAA games though, are you? You're expecting GoT2 next year then? No AAA company is cranking out games in 2 years. FF7R-2 shadow drops tonight, right?
I'm not an MS apologist at all, I'm just ignoring the past (which we all agree was terrible) and looking at the present, future, the reality of the situation, and what results go forward. I'm not too skeptical about it because they haven't offered much reason to be skeptical. Their timelines were terrible, but it's not like Sony's was perfect (GoW:R 2021!) If next E3 ( ) it's a void without great games, then there's something to it. For now, nothing is proceeding slower than I expected when I paid my money. I always anticipated a back-loaded generation, and if it doesn't keep slipping further, that's just what we'll get.
I wish they would put a date on it just to stop the rumors. I don't care if they don't have anything to show for a few months. Just date it.
Removed - unconstructive
Jason Schreier claimed this game wouldn't be on PS4. Can we trust him on this?
Moan if it’s pushed back moan if it’s rushed and a mess moan moan
The Last of Us Part 1 has taken the september release I thought GoW would get, so maybe October/November?
I don't care anymore when or if this comes out. They ruined it by making it only two games. It's going to feel rushed and unsatisfying because there is literally no chance they'll be able to properly flesh out everything they set up in the first game.
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