PS5 Stock Issues Could Last Into 2024 as Chip Shortages Continue

I just hope this doesn’t impact the release date for PSVR2. Surely with lots of companies working on games there can’t be too much of a delay

Lmao this is getting ridiculous. But let's be real, with the way war, the economy and our planet is going to 💩, console shortage is the least of our problems.

This is good news for Microsoft. Sony would have pulled far ahead by now in console sales, but they can't.

@captainsandman Gelsinger isn't just talking about Intel chips, he's referencing the entire shortage based on what he's seeing from the top.

@captainsandman
They do. I'm just pointing out that PlayStations being unable to vastly outsell Xboxes due to supply constraints benefits Microsoft.

@captainsandman Oh yeah, no doubt, but I do think it's still worth reporting on from a PlayStation perspective. The more insight we have into the ongoing shortages, the more we can properly speculate on where the generation is heading. Totally get where you're coming from, though.

So it's all about software sales and subscriptions..They have to boost the attachment rates of games sold per console.

I may be in the minority here but since I gave up on trying to get a PS5, I could not be happier with my PS4 and the entertainment it continues to give me. Too much going on in the world for me to care anymore.

Honestly, gaming-wise, it mostly seems to be crippling Sony these days. I'm seeing decent AMD GPUs online for at or around MSRP now. Switch V2s, OLEDs, and Lites are everywhere. Series S is everywhere, and Series Xs going up for sale online is a pretty regular occurrence these days. It's not back to pre-pandemic normal, but it's way closer than it has been at any other point in these last two years.

Only Sony seems to struggle to put out hardware. And it's not even PS5s. I'm not even seeing PS4s anywhere, which is wild, considering the majority of games that release on Playstation are still cross-gen releases.

@TheCollector316 Honestly, Sony's strategy couldn't have been worse. Not that it's their fault (who could have seen this pandemic and supply chain crisis coming before 2020?), but Sony's plan was clearly to lap Microsoft early on with an aggressive release schedule of big-name exclusives. Sort of like what Nintendo did with Switch, where they launched several of their biggest games within a year or two of the console launch, and it gave hardware sales this unstoppable momentum that's, frankly, still going today.

Instead, that momentum doesn't (can't) exist because of the supply chain issues, and Microsoft is given a free pass as its acquired studios spend years preparing gigantic console exclusives to launch on GP.

@mrtennis1990 From a Sony gamer perspective, PS5 is still much more of a 'want' than a 'need' atm. You still get to play big exclusives like Horizon Forbidden West, GoW Ragnarok, the recent Gran Turismo, etc. on last gen hardware, and the vast, vast majority of third-party releases are cross-gen.

Well that sucks, it looks like Sony will lose this gens top slot, all due to lack of chips...in fact they already kindve have and 2 more years will really kill momentum. Upside is maybe it will make them hungry again...heres hoping.

@mrtennis1990 Same here too. The PS4 Pro with SSD solves a lot of the loading time issues and at the moment, it's still very quiet indeed with the odd infrequent boost in fan speed (if it gets bad, local PC repair shop strips down, cleans out and reapplies new paste for £45!)

For PS5 owners, I appreciate the frustration as the old-gen still clings on but what are devs to do when there are still less than 18 million PS5s out there? And as for exclusive games, there are, what, still only 5?? Even M$ seem to be thinking about green-lighting their next Forza game for their old-gen console too.

Personally, I've recently bought a Switch and there are quite a few interesting things to keep me busy on that while I wait for this new-gen-next-gen debacle to sort itself out.

If this turns out too be true this gen needs to be extended its no point people are able to get a ps5 easily as chip shortage is sorted then the next version of the console is out within a year.

It seems, push square has an agenda against sony. This site has changed for the worst. At one time, they were pro sony, but now; they seem to love the fact sony are having troubles. I am not sure i want to be apart of this sony bias any longer. The FUD here is strong and to be honest, not deserved.

You can buy the console from scalpers at a hefty markup but it's something you should NOT do — I got mine from the sales event run regularly by Playstation. Waited a week or two for the invitation and then 1-2 days for the delivery. Paid the standard price. You can buy PS5 if you really want

Conspiracy theory is xbox created corona virus to short the market then buy up chip production to be able to win marketshare

I got my ps5 in the UK launch, and i am very grateful i did, as the scramble to get a ps5 is never ending.

The longer this goes on the luckier I consider myself to have gotten one.

This will get sorted eventually I have no doubt but short to medium term looks bleak.

Wow. So I doubt I'm getting a PS5 until Xmas 2023 or even Xmas 2024. I may as well wait for the Slim. (Lord knows if these shortages will cause the PS5 slim to arrive sooner or later than the usual 3 years?)

@The_Moose ow’s yer luck how’s yer luck…. sure lookit, you make your own luck. That’s why I was among the first people to get one

Not ideal to hear as I'm craving next gen experiences for PS5 and this makes me fear cross gen will stick around longer than I would have liked

@SystemAddict Lucky you 😄

@jrt87

I think it’s because the demand here is so ridiculous. Same goes for Series X. The Series X is a little more available now than it was, but you better jump on one quick if you want it. PS5s are selling out as fast as they were at launch.

I luckily got my PS5 at launch somehow.

"Indeed, PS5 was outsold by both Xbox and Nintendo Switch in the US in March — and it was all down to the fact that Sony simply can't get enough PS5s on store shelves."

I'm very bothered by this implication that stock woes are the ONLY thing keeping PS5 from dominance. Microsoft and Nintendo face the same supply issues — with Nintendo even lowering forecasted Switch sales just recently and blaming said issues — yet they still outsold the PS5 (In North America... In the month of March... Not exactly an undeniable showing of market ownership, honestly).

An ardent focus on supply just ignores all the other minutia of the console race. Nintendo restored its place in the public consciousness with the Switch. That, and the fusing of their long adjacent home and portable console business, has made the Switch a juggernaut competitor to anyone in the hardware field. And they're keeping that momentum pretty strong. Though I imagine they're very close to fumbling a Switch 2. Especially with these supply issues, they might try holding a successor off until someone else comes along and steals the Switch's thunder. At which point, no one would care about another Switch, even if it can play GTA6.

Xbox bought Call of Duty. We hardcore, in the know gamers might understand that, for one, they haven't actually bought Activision Blizzard quite yet. It's even kinda up in the air right now if ActiBlizz's games will be Xbox exclusive. At least before the end of this generation. But that doesn't really matter, because for the main demographic for Call of Duty, a body of gamers that encompass WAY more of the industry then frequents of gaming sites may want to believe, all they know is XBOX BOUGHT CALL OF DUTY. Why even get a PlayStation if it means no Call of Duty? What the hell are they supposed to play? Some game where a tribal girl runs around the forest with a bow? WHERE ARE THE F***ING GUNS?!

The industry is a very different place than when the PS4 rose to dominance. Namely, Sony's competitors actually aren't stupid right now. But I guess if it all comes down to supply constraints, and Sony has proven to be the most incapable of managing it, we can safely say this generation is already decided. Playstation 5 is last place — better luck next time. Maybe try a Morbius game; Morbius is a tent pole franchise, as everyone knows.

Before the pandemic, we used to think that the video game industry was all set to live a new golden age. It was like all the stars was aligning, with the new console generation on the horizon and all. But the reality now is that the industry is struggling and facing many problems. I hope that the major players realize the situation, find a middle ground where they can join forces and work together to address those problems, without, off course building upon the features and values that made the users adopt each platform.

Got mine launch day 🤷🏻‍♂️

@jrt87 Aye good advice mate <3 It's hard not to get too caught up at times. But hey, I have my Ps5, can't wish for a better distraction lol.

@lolwhatno Just because I mention one thing, doesn't mean I'm not aware of the other. Alas, let's keep it gaming related, have a good one. <3

This generation will be so long

I would imagine that it is very weird for the US citzens this situation of having the money in your pocket, but not having the product in the store. 'Stock issue' is all I hear they saying. It have other names, you know.

Hi. I don’t have time to check the source but what has Intel to do with PS5? And basically is he namely mentioning the consoles? Intel already made statements contradicting AMD’s in the past.
AMD has different sources I believe.

I'm glad i decided to get one out of a scalper's hands last year.. The opportunity came by, the scumbag lives only a few kilometers away from me and his asking price was reasonable, all things considered. I got a sealed box with the receit, disc version, and he let it go for €650. Not being aware of the continuation of stockshortages all the way into 2024, i am even more thrilled i managed to get one! Ready for PSVR 2 baby!!😃

@Ralizah @sanderson72 Completely agree. Thanks for the response!

10 year long console generation. I don't mind it. PS6 won't be that impressive with diminishing returns.

I am one of the most luckiest girls alive, I walked into game, my local and they had 1 LEFT I brought that console so fast and can't be happier 😁😁👍👍 no more shortages for me lol

I'm in upgrade mode right now 😊

@Rural-Bandit

That is indeed the biggest benefit. The chip shortage has bought them plenty of time, too. By the time the chip shortage ends, they'll have lots of games coming out at a regular cadence from all their acquisitions. Sony's chance to create a gigantic lead in market share with all their releases will be over and, due to supply constraints, hasn't manifested.

This is not good news, even for those that have a PS5.

Now we're bound to get even more compromised cross-gen releases some 3(!) whole years since the PS5 launch, which is unprecedented.

If I was a PS5 owner and I see that we're still getting what is essentially PS4 designed games only at higher resolution and frame rate 3 years in, I'd be having huge buyer's remorse with PS5.

@Ralizah I like your perspective comparing the momentum of the Nintendo Switch and the PlayStation 5 at launch. The lack of PS5s at people's houses itself is a bigger problem that many people realize. It is like a species population in a ecosystem, if it have problems increasing in size it will soon find itself in a real danger.
The situation is so drastic that I could even imagine extreme measures being brought up — like routing new batches of PS5 to specific locations with high demand (and completely fulfilling it) to assure the "survival of the species". Let's hope it doesn't get to this point.

At this point I am almost convinced PS5's do not actually exist and are some kind of myth.

And I own one.

@truerbluer

Eh. I'm happy with 60fps on games. I'll take that over 30 any day.

Once we get into the 'unreal 5' stuff resolutions are going to crater as will framerates. Since neither the ps5 nor the xbsx are all that powerful especially now. Not as anemic as the 4/xb1 was (tragic those 2) but still slow enough. I do like the reduced load times.

@captainsandman
I agree. I saw this title a few times since yesterday but it’s a lot of typical clickbait not relevant (I mean not adding any more useful info) to PS5 I think. (I know it’s unpopular opinion to go against the mob)
These shortage issue we know will last for years but it’s a very broad statement not really informative.

@huyi congrats!!!

I’m sure by then the console will have enough true exclusives to make it worth buying for me. Hopefully may even have a price drop and redesign. I started playing Miles Morales on PS4 last weekend and it still looks great. The loading time improvements would be nice but if given the choice I’d rather spend £460 squids on an assortment of games.

@captainsandman
Hi. I read Intel are building their own factory so I’m thinking they have a different perspective from AMD.

@JJ2 intel already has it’s own production, they just can’t get passed the 14++++ fab. They outsource only a small percentage of their chips to TSMC (server and mobile chips). But intel’s market was always OEM (HP DeLL) all of which saw a increase of sails during the pandemic, hence intel’s shortage of chips. On the other side of things AMD fabs went to be independent “Global Foundry” and manufacturing moved to TSMC.

@SilkySmile89
Oh thanks for info.
So that’s comfort me in relying only on AMD info. Last I saw was in February I think, Lisa Su said in a video first half of the year is very tight for supply but second half should improve. So far she was right.

@JJ2 the issue with TSMC are the phone manufacturers, they are the biggest clients (Apple, Qualcomm) they have the highest priority because they have the highest orders, what falls between the cracks, it’s up for grabs between AMD, Nvidia or even intel. Car manufacturers problem is that they don’t care about the latest and greatest lithography (5nm+ or what’s latest), and TSMC is prioritising their fabs for that.

@themightyant @Royalblues The other big factor was all the cell phone companies ramping up their 5G rollout all at once, requiring all new tower equipment, while all the rest of this was going on. That was a significant factor. And an amazingly stupid one considering almost nobody ever had an interest in the product, and the carriers have yet to convey a compelling argument for it to exist given buckets, caps, and the fact that a signficant component of 5G, given it's insanely short radius is.....just adding more 4G compatible with 5G handoffs which shows on handets as "5G."

They rolled it out to beat China to the punch so what happened with LTE where China's chosen tech is the winner and they get the manufacturing/tech pick for the rest of the world doesn't happen with 5G. But they depleted massive stockpiles of chips and production capacity to produce towers for every so many square feet to blanket every inch of everywhere all at once. While the factories were closing and consumer and datacenter demand sharply rose.

But hey, we have MEC now, and Verizon's E3 has us hyped, right?

@Rural-Bandit An easier-to-manufacture re-design launching sooner than later wouldn't surprise me at all. They've already done something like that when they made changes to the cooling system. Although this'll likely be dramatic enough that they can market it as a new version of the system.

It's clear that something will need to change from how it is now unless they want to lose a significant portion of their market share to Microsoft.

@Rural-Bandit It's kind of remarkable. Series X is so ordinary looking that it could be mistaken as part of a sound system or something. PS5, on the other hand, looks like a router circa 2007 was refashioned into a modern art sculpture. It's humongous and demands attention wherever it is.

@themightyant JIT is a blight in many ways. Great for shareholders though. Everything always is....

Hopefully this will lead to a longer generation

when u have a ps5 you forget that these things still are scarce , 2024 is bs. i have a ps5 and i’m even mad about this .

this gen might as well be the last

It will last way past 2025. It's not just consoles that lack chips. Literally everything is being shorted at the moment. People just have to get used to it.

Maybe there won't be any ps5 shortage by the time the PS9 is released.

they will keep doing what they are nothing they can do everyone is affected it is as simple as that! Game has stock coming guys you can preorder PS5s for the 10th of May. guessing the chip plant being built in Tokyo will be a good thing for Sony in the future.

@jrt87 I live in the UK and haven't seen a ps5 in stock, anywhere

@nomither6 Last? Longest, maybe but why would it be the last? I do this everyone will heavily push subscriptions even more, next gen though.

@Amusei

I agree, but it'd be be nice for some people to have fun with a new PS5 as the nukes come falling down.

Obviously COVID had a massive impact, but with the war in Ukraine is going to have a big impact too. Both Russia & Ukraine are big global producers of Neon Gas, something like 70% of Neon Gas comes from these two countries. And without Neon Gas you are not making any semi-conductors.

I can see ps5 being a niche console. No exclusives this year that aren't out on ps4 & I think games will be continued to be made for the ps4 for many years to come.

@Fyz306903 same only in used stores for well over the normal price. That's how I got one. Can't see it changing either

@lolwhatno It's all good my man, take care <3

@Kang81 I feel ya, it's gonna be alright, all that fps experience is gonna pay off.

@themightyant COVID played a part for sure, but Taiwan had the worst drought in years. Making chips uses a huge amount of water, which was restricted. As was production.

Yet, PS5 is back on top and outselling Trashbox worldwide......................Trashbox at the top was short lived

I'm having a blast with my good ol' PS4 and maybe I'll get Switch this year and clear the backlog on that. Honestly, PS5 doesn't appeal to me lot at this point.

Its super frustrating but on the brightside by the time i get a ps5 all the games i want should have their complete editions out for cheap. Yay.

@Amusei

Funny thing, I just recently started playing Metro Exodus while also constantly seeing Fallout 4 in my PS5 library and wanting to go back to it.

Perhaps this is a subconscious desire to prepare myself for what's coming? 🤔

@Kang81 😹 Who knows man, give it a few more years and the mole rats are taking over