Sony's currently catching some flak online for a patent that almost immediately sounds like a bad idea. Registered in January 2020 but approved only recently, the patent outlines a potential PlayStation feature that would allow streamers and their viewers (on streaming websites like Twitch, for example) to either temporarily or permanently remove players from multiplayer games.
The patented and rather detailed flowchart shows the process of spectators deciding to remove (or "bench") players who aren't pulling their weight. Players can also be sent messages telling them to play better, and there's even mention of viewers paying to have people kicked from the game. It all seems to come down to a voting system, which can be influenced by a player's supposed skill level.
Doesn't sound like an abusable system at all, does it?
We've seen Sony register plenty of questionable patents in the past, but the reality is that very few of these ideas become actual products or features. That said, it's no secret that Sony and PlayStation are making moves in the eSports space, and so patents like this are bound to raise a few eyebrows. For now, though, we wouldn't read too much into it.
If this feature does ever come into play, we'd assume that it'll only be used to up the stakes during particular events or streams. We highly doubt that it'd ever get to a point where unknowing players can be kicked from the games that they're playing. Having said that, we all know that online gaming can get a little... toxic, for lack of a better word, and we suppose that it's in these more heated situations that a system like this could just make things worse.
[source opattack.com, via videogameschronicle.com, destructoid.com]
I don't do multiplayer games generally, but yeah... that's a horrible idea and should NEVER be implemented.
That’s an absolutely horrid idea. Who the hell came up with that?
Ick. No thank you keep this one on the cutting room floor. The last thing I want is to be playing Street Fighter 6 only to see "random streamer guy" insist that I can't play in the room until I don't select a "cheap character".
Burn this patent and all documents related to it in a fire pit.
Terrible idea giving streamers and their hive mind viewers more power.
This is crazy. If Sony are gonna allow this then make online free. Having to pay to play online just for someone to pay abit more to kick you?
Even without the fact that we're already paying for multiplayer how did Sony think this would ever be a good idea?
Basically they want the 'kick' option behind yet another paywall for everyone? So even if you aren't abusing the kick option for sh it's and giggles you could still end up having this effect your enjoyment.
Hopefully this doesn't actually become anything. But Sony sure like to be anticonsumer these days
What happens if betting is allowed on these events at the same time?
Companies patent any idea they have though, right?
Is there any suggestion that this will actually be used?
Might be fun in a kind of Takeshi's Castle style elimination game.
This is clearly more for esports (EVO) than a random guy kicking you out of cod because you are winning on a public server.
Wow , stupid idea what is the world coming to
Sounds like a good plan to me. Get rid of those slackers. Git gud or get out.
Let's be real, the only reason they patented this is so they can sell it to Activision in the future.
"Players can also be sent messages telling them to git gud, and there's even mention of viewers paying to have people killed off. It all seems to come down to a voting system, which can be influenced by a player's supposed skill level."
Death Games, the future of interactive entertainment.
This is more like to kick players that are afk.
Seems right but yes people kicking others because there making a show of them on a stream will happen. 98% of streamers are tossers, immature man children, its beyond me how people can sit an watch streamers especially for gaming, and then follow them like its religion. Gaming streams are a cesspool of dbags
@Shepherd_Tallon They're clearly prepping Squid Game:The Videogame
edit: Squideogame for short
another edit: with Squideo Kojima directing
I'll never understand games companies catering to streamers. They're such a small part of the industry.
Reminds me of a game I heard awhile back. It was a dungeon crawler, I think, and the audience could put traps and enemies in the dungeoneers way. Wonder what happened to that game.
Just a patent people, relax.
UP NEXT: No more rules in football, says UEFA. Audience will judge instead.
The idea some people seem to have that this would ever be implemented in a situation without the explicit consent of all players involved is absurd. This is clearly targetting the subsegment of streamers who're actively willing to give their audience control over the hardships they encounter, through various official and unofficial methods of integration, to increase viewer engagement and memetic moments.
This is a patent on Crowd Control, not swatting, and certainly not Squid Games. It would never be used in situations where the participants can't roll with being booted from a game as being just another aspect of play to be taken in good fun.
Why would you even patent something this terrible looking? Coming up with a toxic sweat system is a horrible use of time. Normally a patent to keep in case isn't a bad idea, but this is awful. They should ask for it to be undone. Removed. Gone. I'm so serious. Separate the company from this.
Removed - unconstructive
Id play bad on purpose just to make the idiots pay up to get rid of me.
Just keep it away from ff14
Welp I'm terrible at shooters I guess I'm doomed now 🤣
Seriously though this is a terrible idea. Can't see it being implemented at all tbh.
I bet whoever came up with this patent has a laugh like Doctor Nefarious.
Once again, the love of decision flowcharts and process logic (I did an MSc in this kind of stuff) over rides realworld situations where people learn to co-operate, learn, improve, improvise, assist.
It only takes one 'bully' to ruin team spirit.
The model disregards those finer qualities human interaction and co-operation and encourages self-interest, impatience.
Most of us are pretty good at self-regulating and staying or leaving depending on how well we fit with a team.
Do we really need this (im)balance?
This sounds like a terrible idea in every way, but I wonder if the idea isn't meant for general public play but for scheduled televised/streamed "eSports" tournaments/gameshows or something of the sort? I could see that being used for an "arena" or "live TV" type closed setting for a scheduled competitive event.
I only play multiplayer with my Fam and co-workers.
No need - They have no problem telling me directly when I stink at a game and stop playing with me anyway... I lasted like 2 nights in PUBG 🤣😅
@Uromastryx that's why I watch those from the other 2%. In seriousness I think the actual percentage of good streamers are higher, but the unfortunate reality is that the most successful and visible streamers tend to be extremely obnoxious.
It's definitely a terrifying thought that the audience of one of those could potentially have the power to ruin the experience of playing a game for some poor sod who may have never watched a streamer in their life, and probably has no idea why they've been kicked.
Let's face it, this would be abused to grief players far more frequently than it ever would be used legitimately.
If this is ever going be used im the first one to toss every Sony multiplayer game on the side.
This reminds me of a Phillips patent that describes a tele with unskippable ads (can't switch away when ad is playing). Same chances of adoption
I don’t really play online but I’d pay to kick streamers and their viewers out of games
lol seriously 🤣 im so glad im a offline campaign gamer long live single player.
thanks for this absolute lunacy 😂
Xbox bring a patent for kicking all streamers and their audiences and I’ll ditch Sony….
Sounds like something Jim Ryan thought up while sitting in his office twiddling his thumbs.
I feel like this was done already in media form. A movie or black mirror esque.
Next they will bring In a x-factor sob stories from people leaving the games
My uncle's doctors cousins hairdresser who I met once when I was 4 months old died of cancer it's effecting my playing the game
It's "just a patent," yes, and probably one that won't be realized any time soon, if ever, but it does seem concerning that bizarre ideas like this are even being developed and patented in the first place.
pc do this all the time ,bf4 private servers do it every day of the week and not a single mention?
I still think there is gonna come a day when I give up on gaming due to all the live service, loot box, crappy patent, advertising nonsense. Honestly, I look at most games and just say "pass
I guess this I just meant to be a fun plugin for twitch so viewers and streamers can create different ways to interact. Crowd control have been running similar things on twitch for years. With crowd control as a viewer you can donate to invert controls, introduce power ups or power downs and all sorts of other effects during live play. It’s been a huge success for it’s creators jaku and grandpoobear. Sony just want a piece of the pie I’d imagine
@zimbogamer as someone who only plays single player games, there are so many titles worth playing that I'd have to quit my job to go through half of what I'm interested in.
I can kinda see what they're thinking with this as a streamer, but at the same time it's so blatantly open to abuse.
Larger streamers, especially in the sphere of MMO's for example could benefit.
I can see this being abused badly but at the same time it seems like a good way to deal with stream snipers.
They can be mildly irritating at times but they can also get waaaay out of order like back when Asmon first hopped on ffxiv.
In that situation all the toxic idiot stream snipers followed him for 4 hours. Blocking his view, spamming particle effects, using mounts to try to prevent him from interacting with NPC's or accessing areas of the map.
All because they were intentionally trying to force a supposed "toxic person" out of "their" game.
Sure they all got ban hammered after the fact, but from Sony's or a dev/publisher pov that kind of clownage doesn't paint their IP in great light and damages the potential for that streamer's viewers to be converted to paying customers of the game.
Just another form of revenue protection in that regard while also weeding out ***** from a game session.
I can definitely see the potential abuse for esports though so for now I'm on the fence.
People don't read. It's just a PATENT! Means noone else can use it. Sony has patented loads of stuff but never used it! This same situation when Sony said you can use recordings from voice chat for reporting abuse. Everyone cried wah wah, Sony is gonna spy on me. So many morons! If by chance it was to be used, so many other companies would have to agree to it. Sony can't force this system on any game system they like. Think people!
@Neverwild Wouldn't another system be better? I dunno, say a timer that records how long it's been since a player pressed a button, then kick them after a few minutes? That sounds smarter to me.
If this becomes a reality, god help us all.
Sounds like it could make for a TV game show Fallguy type thing.
It's obvious this would be eSports events and not normal gameplay as that would be not only unethical but probably against the law.
It's a cool idea for E sports events tho, you could have almost a hybrid big brother/death race thing going where not only do you have to be good to survive you need to entertain to win the event!
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