Gulp! PS5 Stock Shortages Could Last Until 2023

Oof. I can understand why people are frustrated at this whole situation, and scalpers don't make it any easier for the regular consumer.

Am I lucky I got mine. Good luck to all the peeps out there still looking for one.

I don't know how I got my PS5 in February from Amazon but I am so grateful I did because with all of this shortages going on, I feel so lucky.

managed too get one from very a couple of weeks ago, but now i think should i just of waited with more and more games getting delayed

@Deadlyblack
I hate the scalpers as much as the next gamer but they wouldn't be an issue if people didn't buy from them.

We could be facing a even longer Console lifecycle with the playstation 5/xbox series x if they cant fix these Shortages issues soon . I have never seen anything like this before

This not only sucks for the people but this means that we're going to have more cross gen titles.

At the time, I didn't think getting my hands on a PS5 was a big deal, but now I realise I was incredibly lucky. Crazy situation.

I got mine on release day but I've had the chance to purchase at least 5-6 more units if I wanted to. If you really wanted one it hasn't been THAT hard to get one where I live.

All I did was to frequent some retailers' websites who pushed them out at random. They chose to not specify when to prevent their systems from crashing I suppose.

We also have retailers with lottery systems, if you win you get a code to purchase a PS5. I've won twice... That seriously can't just be down to luck. Gave away my codes to some colleagues.

I just wish they would allow us to ‘pre-order’ these (one per address) so we could avoid two more years of battling scalpers for them.

Such a crazy situation! Thankful to have gotten one, but also a little remorseful that its potential is unlikely to be realized for some time, as cross-gen is going to be the only thing that makes business sense for the foreseeable future.

I tore my semiconductor out of my microwave when all this nonsense first started. They said I was crazy, but who's laughing now? Certainly not my doctor.

I have decided to stop trying so hard to find a PS5 until 2023 sadly. I have had no luck and am not falling for scalpers.

Wow. Still boggles the mind i just logged onto Amazon on pre-order day and added one to cart. Never assumed there would be any issues with it. To think i nearly held off to get one a year down the line! Feel very lucky. Hope everyone who wants one but hasn't been able to grab one yet can find one soon!!

The problem is there are no PS4 Pro available, so if my old PS4 decide to die I'd have no way to complete my backlog (no way I'd buy another OG PS4 in 2021...)

This surely has MS rubbing their hands with glee. Anyone with a One will soon be able to play next gen games if they pay for MSs streaming service, no new hardware required (of course streaming is nowhere near as good as native, but that’ll be overlooked initially).

Feel extra lucky I managed to get a launch PS5 (well the wife did, thanks love!)

Most games are cross-gen until 2023 as it is. God of War. Horizon. Gran Turismo 7.

Holiday 22 is when i will target mine.

Looks like some more exclusives are going to be getting held back 😭😭

I dont understand why the retailers dont make preorders available to customers one per adres. But i refuse to pay a scalper i rather wait one year extra.

Honest question, how is Switch seemingly unaffected by this? They’re monthly sales totals indicate they’re meeting demand and not suffering from semiconductor shortages like Sony or MS. At least not nearly to the same degree. What are they doing differently?

My advice is to get yours before the holiday push. That’s going to be The Nightmare Before Christmas, lol. With diligence you can do it.

I haven't opened mine yet but I've only had it 10 days so far.

This is so bad. We will so many more cross generation games 😭

@andreoni79 There are a few new Pros still available on eBay but expect to pay more than the PS5 Disc Edition RRP!

@BoldAndBrash Yep, still running the Pro here too with nothing on the horizon (no pun intended) that makes me desperate for a 5 yet. Pro's SATA3 SSD speeds up loading no end and it's still running quietly despite the recent heatwave!

Most of the games coming out are PS4 titles still (it's where the money is!) with enhancements for the Pro and more enhancements (primarily frame rate) over that for the PS5. I can live with only a few enhancements.

I've seen some speculation about the next PS5 Pro and Xbox being ready around 2023 but I have hard time considering that could even be a possibility with the current shortage continually being extended.

@Enigk Why not open it and use your ps5? I couldn't wait to use mine when i had mine day one in the UK. You should try it and make sure it is not faulty.

For those of us who don't have one, and almost certainly won't be able to get one, 2022 is going to be the bleakest year in gaming in a LONG time. I'm not going to accept a lower quality PS4 version of something that's out on the PS5. So I'll just wait. It sucks, and it pisses me off, but there isn't any solution.

@Shepherd_Tallon both the slim and the pro came out within a month of each other pretty close to being spot on 3 years after the Ps4 launched. I’ll be getting the pro model to replace my launch console for sure though. My launch is awesome, it’s just moar power haha

So glad I got mine day one. As a great time with it. Xbox sx too but that's not seen as much use.

@andreoni79. Its .always available on ebay.word up son

I get the feeling that because people can't get their hands on a PS5 that games will continue to be cross gen, lowering their potential. Sometimes it almost feels like I'm using a PS4 pro+ with how many PS4 games I'm still playing on the PS5.

@Shepherd_Tallon @kingbreww Yep, that's why the PS4 Pro came about so it could support the 4K TVs that were springing up left and right.

A PS5 Pro COULD appear but only if 8K TVs take off and that looks unlikely at the moment given the prices and the total lack of support from any gaming or streaming media, never mind the standard broadcasters. Personally, I'd go for a smaller form factor one as the current one is just too massive.

@ATaco Games are going to be cross gen for the next couple of years anyway as it takes so long in dev time, test time (though some times I wonder!) and with the COVID pandemic, it's slowed everything down. We're already seeing release dates slip by 4-6 months so expect more PS4 support for longer than perhaps expected?

That suck, by that time maybe there's already ps5 slim or pro.

I love with these stupid store owners that sell 15 consoles to one person. When they could easy make way more money if they sold them to separate people that would buy extra things like games.

Oh my. They should start using the word "stuck" instead of stock. Glad I got mine from a scalper for a price close to retail back in April.

I luckily got hold of one within the last month. All I can say to people still looking is...Twitter! There are multiple sources you can follow that will immediately let you know when there’s a stock drop. That’s how I got mine - I was lucky enough to look at my phone to see a tweet saying Amazon UK had just dropped stock. The tweet was already 3 mins old so thought I’d missed my chance...but I got one. Don’t give up!

Honestly, I don't care anymore. I feel like this whole situation is a marketing ploy to force people to buy bundled PS5's. Sony has already stated that the PS5 sells at a loss because of it's high manufacturing cost. If they were seriously trying to meet the demand, they're more than competent enough to do it.

@alphadrago5 Sony don't manufacturer the components. It's not just consoles/PCs that are effected. New car production is also being effected resulting in the 2nd hand market price rapidly increasing. Almost anything with a semiconductor will be having supply issues. Not just a Sony problem.

I can’t read the article from bloom but from GI I feel it’s clickbait. The man is talking about chips tight delivery in some cases up to 2023 and the writer (from GI) simplifies as a console shortage up to that year.

. "In some cases, we may find some customers not being fully served until 2023."

I know I know but facts are king

@Roqka I tried for months doing lots of different methods and got nothing. I had one in my cart 3 different times to watch it disappear as I paid. I am done trying until I can walk into a store and get one. I am not blaming Sony 100% but they could have easily sold directly to those they clearly see are still playing on their PS4s. I've been on PSN since it went live so they should be able to see people like me and wonder why I don't have one? So, I will just sit it out and wait until next year or so. I don't mind to play on my PS4 in the meantime as most of the games I want are playable there. I will not be buying upgrades to get PS5 versions of my games though. They aren't getting money twice out of me just for some higher framerate etc. So I think Sony will see some revenue loss for the gamers like myself who don't upgrade their games since we are stuck on PS4.

@PSoneboi > I am not blaming Sony 100% but they could have easily sold directly to those they clearly see are still playing on their PS4s.

Sony did this, at least briefly. I don't know if they're still doing it, but a couple months back I got an email asking if I wanted to buy a PS5 from playstation direct. Maybe you need to enable marketing emails to get this sort of invitation though.

Think I'm reading the room different to most others here.
I don't consider myself lucky at all to have got a PS5 on launch day.🤔
The day it was announced I had the knowledge of 30+ years of gaming that it was gonna sell out and people going crazy like gangbusters.
The PS5 hype and buzz was off the scale, certainly more so than the series x/s, because gamers long remember nonsense like bundled in cameras for silly money.
Hence, on day one X/S were still available at most retailers and ONLY then sold out because people were settling for that rather than nowt.

An another thing, while I'm on me soapbox, saying no "decent exclusives, held back for current gen" are just grapes of the sourest kind.

Tis a bit like not knowing the rules to musical chairs, you don't stand around seeing what everyone else is going to do when the music stops. Got that out of a cracker🤪

@PSoneboi I feel you. Hope you get lucky one day mate!

I think since I live in a smaller country the demand might be big but not overwhelming thus it becomes significantly easier to buy one. Probably because there aren't a million people trying to get one at the same time.

@thefourfoldroot
The only reason I see them being happy about this, Is that people give up and settle for their scrapheap. But in a general view its slightly disappointing for MS to see sony at full capacity and still can't meet demand, but oh hey peeps want a new xbox come on in !!!🤭 makes me snicker a little.
I dont know about this streaming. Think it can really be the same ?or go aswell as they think it will?

Weirdly, I just gave up and got a Switch Lite for now, which I have to say I'm really enjoying playing as I missed having a great little handheld console. I'm finding I'm playing the Switch more than the PS4, so my interest in PS5 has drifted a bit. I think when Elden Ring is out, I might be more motivated!

More PS5's are being sold then PS4's did at launch of the consoles. Can you really call this a shortage when over 2 million more PS5's have been sole than PS4's in the same amount of time? Demand is up people that search harder are getting them. What has happened to all the "I will wait a year or two before I get a PS5 here".

@Roqka Yeah and I am always glad to hear of those who got one. Honestly though I am okay to wait a bit. I just got into Graveyard keeper and I will be playing for a while as I am hooked. I think this wait will also give me time to build a reasonable backlog of discounted games when I finally do find one.

@Milktastrophe Oh, I got one of these emails and it only allowed me to be in a queue which sold out after waiting for two hours. I am not sure they've ever directly offered a cart to a user or if my queue experience is what they've been doing. Love to hear from others if they were also given a link but it was just to sit in a queue. I did only ever get one invite though.

I'm just glad my search is over.

I’m proud to say that I still haven’t giving in to scalpers and have not paid double the price for a $400/$500 system. My PS4 Pro still run and looks really well on my Samsung Qled 4K tv. Looking forward to playing FarCry 6 on it. I’ve recently been playing FarCry 5 on the Pro and it run surprisingly smooth enough on it and look really good.

@ColdHandGee I had been trying to get one for ages then managed to get one but I'm losing my job shortly so leaving it unopened in case I need to sell it on if I remain unemployed.

@PSoneboi it might've been a queue. I didn't click the link since I already had one.

Fire Jim Ryan.

@Nightcrawler71 can you point some names to follow on twitter? looks like a good plan to grab one

That's fine. If I get one, it probably wouldn't be until at least that point anyway, what with Sony embracing a cross-generation release strategy for most of their big games.

Infamous: Second Son was exclusively released for the PS4 after only 13 million units sold.

Bloodborne was exclusively released on PS4 with about 25 million PS4 units sold.

Knack was released only for PS4 when there were barely any PS4 units sold lol (bundled)

These are Sony published titles. We're probably around 11 to 12 million PS5 units sold right now if we're going by the past 6 months of sales trends since 10 million units were reported to have been sold as of the end of July.

So by next year, especially mid year we might be over 20 million units sold. That's more than enough of a base to justify releasing exclusively for PS5. They did it in the past when switching from PS3 to PS4 so there's no reason why they can't this time either.

Any game being released next year, especially beyond the first couple of months really ought to be leaving the PS4 behind.

I got the PS5 digital edition after trying for one of PlayStation's queues. I followed @PS5StockAlerts and @Wario64. Keep in mind Wario tweets all kinds of stuff. The first one I mentioned focuses on PS5 restocking.

After several failed attempts to get it from Gamestop, entering Newegg raffles, and trying Walmart, Target and Amazon, tried the PlayStation Queue. I had tried it twice before but it was a bust.

Keep in mind that I even knew about potential stock coming in because of the two people I followed on Twitter. They all resulted in failures but at least I gave it a shot.

Finally I got a tweet about yet another Playstation Queue and gave it a shot. I signed up and got over an hour wait, but within 10 minutes I was down to only 10 minutes wait time! When I actually got into the store I couldn't believe it. Only the digital was available but I didn't care much since the PS Store tends to have decent sales anyway.

It's really annoying and demoralizing having failed at least 8 or 9 times attempting to secure one, but eventually it worked out.

Just follow those two on Twitter and make sure you have notifications on. Keep trying, I thought I had no shot too but it finally worked out.

@GreatAuk GT7 and GoW5 were designed around the specs of the PS4, so there's really no reason not to release them on that console as well as the PS5.

I imagine big releases in 2023 and beyond will be next-gen exclusive from Sony.

Man, cross-gen is never gona leave us until halfway through this things lifespan

@Ralizah I agree that if a game has already done significant development targeting the PS4 then it should be released for both consoles.

But I don't think developers releasing in the second half of 2022 and beyond should be targetting the PS4 anymore.

@SystemAddict PS5 will get big exclusives, but IMO cross-gen is the new normal going forward. The mass adoption of SSDs was probably the last great divider between hardware generations, and even that isn't stopping most games from also being released on PS4. The gap between PS5 and PS6 will likely be even smaller.

@GreatAuk Well, games take years to develop, so big exclusives targeting a late 2022 release are probably very late in development by this point. Also, realistically, most games aren't designed around SSD antics, so there's no reason for them to not get PS4 releases if PS4 owners are still buying games and performance downgrades are enough to get the games running smoothly on older hardware. But Sony likes to flex its hardware with games that punch above their weight, so I'd expect big releases in 2023 and beyond will be designed to take full advantage of the PS5 hardware.

Hopefully we'll have a clearer idea of their approach going forward when the showcase airs in a couple of days.

@GreatAuk Trouble is a game being published in the second half of 2022 is well underway, certainly if you're talking about a big title release, so you're not going to see sole PS5 targeting until games emerge with a release date of mid-2023, I suspect.

If you really want one and are willing to put in a little time refreshing webpages and anticipating stock, you can get one. Yes it's annoying you can't walk into a store and buy one, but if you want one it's possible.

And let's not make it a Sony issue - I know people furloughed from jaguar Land rover because of semi conductor shortages

@felip just do a search for “PS5 stock alerts” and you’ll get several results. Once you follow one (or more) Twitter will periodically suggest others for you to follow. Just follow as many as possible until you get that PS5! Good luck 🤞

I think I can wait. I’ve been getting a lot more return for the investment on PC in this limbo-gen so if I’m going to upgrade anything at this point, may as well be that.

Maybe the PS show will change my mind, but as of right now I can hold my breath for Returnal to come to PC. A full-on TEAMAsobi game is the only other exclusive I can imagine going through any grief over, unless David Jaffe’s hyping something really special.

I've still got at least 10 games on my PS4 backlog and ... a very large number on my Steam backlog, so I'm fine until late 2022.

disgusting . if they don't just continue to make games for the ps4 and not focus on the ps5 then thats gonna be some bullcrap . theres no sense in making cross-gen games and spending those extra dollars and resources when the game and efforts instead could be focused entirely on the ps4 ; the ps5 can still play those games via BC and even connect to the same servers for online play .

the ps4 still has some juice left , we still don't even know what a TRUE PS4 GTA game looks like - just look at the jump from Mortal Kombat X to MK11 , to get an idea.

but , I'm just talking a pipe-dream , who am i kidding.

@malbhet If this isn't the best comment in the entire thread , then i dont know what is.

As it stands, most companies put themselves into this situation, Sony included. The semiconductors are still being made at full factory capacity, however the companies who need them reduced their orders on them because of "forecasted shortfalls in sales". So the factories just allocated their orders to others who wanted them. This has been made public a few times over the past 2 years. So in essence, there is no shortfall of semiconductors, but rather the companies screwed up big time on their own orders and are now paying for it. Which in turn affects the consumers (us). This will not change until the current orders are fulfilled and the affected companies can be allowed to increase their orders back to their original numbers.

Stories like this tend to make people want the console even more. For those on this list please don't buy from a scalper, be patient. And if retailers would take open pre-orders that would help.

this is really a huge storm blow for people who are trying to wait for legit prices so we don't get ripped off

at this point next gen feels pointless and anti climax because only a select few people can take advantage of it, the fact that the game prices for ps4 games are now inflated with forced ps4/ps5 bundles takes the packet even further!

this is a horrible year for playstation gamers as a whole! and yeah thanks sony for stopping production of the ps4 pro just to add more salt to our open wounds too 🙄🙄

@amenohi same! I've given up on buying one for now, I guess the 2024 mark you mentioned is just about right for me too.

@Grimwood Depends on where you live. In some countries, including mine, it was simply impossible to get one until now and even now it's pure luck or connections with the store owners.

Also, thanks for letting us know you're one of those people.

@Skywalker1080p in some countries you couldn't even preorder. Only sign up and be notified when you can pre-order and when that happened, they were all sold out.

@huyi "at this point next gen feels pointless and anti climax because only a select few people can take advantage of it"

Considering that ps5 has outpaced ps4 and any other ps console, I'd disagree.

@huyi Yes, the whole PS4 + PS5 bundled for sky-high prices seems to be a case of the PS4 supporting the PS5 dev costs without any benefit.

The Pro just wasn't cost effective in it's current guise against the DOE PS5 for a tenner more (though at the time, you couldn't find either to buy!)
Personally, I think Sony COULD easily have put out a smaller cheaper Pro but that would've potentially confused the market as it would be a 4K console for, say, £250 but wouldn't be able to play PS5 exclusives (should anything of note arrive...) unlike the difference between the Series S and X.

@sanderson72 confusing in what way? The situation is more worse now because the slim has no benefits compared to the pro

And yes a more viable option would have been to improve the PS4 pro and stop production of the slim but Sony being Sony didn't want that option due to cost and a assumption that you can just buy a ps5 and do the same thing as a pro which is a pretty stupid way to think with how bad the situation is now with the ps5.

@naruball well that's the more confusing part is HOW is this console selling more than a PS4 with shortages? When people struggle to buy one in the first place? maybe this is some kind of wizardry from the depths of Sony 😄😂😂

@Ralizah yes we won't get one till that point but due to how difficult they are to get the prices will still be inflated twice the value regardless 😫😫

@huyi The shortages are a simple matter of demand outstripping supply. My friends list is slowly but surely switching over from PS4 and PS4 Pro to the PS5, but it's made up of people who thought it was impossible to get hold of one.

There is more supply of the PS5 than there was of the PS4, but demand is high enough that it's still not enough. If there weren't a semiconductor shortage then Sony could just order an increase in production, but instead they have to stick to the contracts they already have which tend to be negotiated a couple of years ahead, without being able to supplement with more expensive last-minute purchases.

There's nothing mysterious going on, and we've seen this happen in the short term with all sorts of crazes, I remember when I was young there being issues with Pogs, Tamagochi, Yo-yos, Micro Scooters, Furbies which were all caused by a spike in demand, which was not matched by supply. As soon as supply increased, or demand decreased, you could just go out to the shops and buy one, but until then there were morning rushes, scalpers, you name it.

@huyi I meant confusing in that the Pro would look like the cheaper S version of the PS5 but it wouldn't be capable of running PS5 only software.

The fact of the matter is that the PS4 Pro should have hit the £250-300 or thereabouts mark and the base PS4 should have been discontinued. To me, if you've had a Pro and still have any game discs, that would put it almost £200 cheaper than the PS5.

@BoldAndBrash By the time we get a ps5, at least the majority of the games will be cheaper by then, personally I can't wait to get demon's souls, ratchet and clank and returnal.

@andreoni79 same, I wish they had continued to make the pro instead of the slim, it's the reason I bought a 4k TV, and I don't want to downgrade, also my pro now sounds like it's gonna take off.

I got an email from ShopTo the other day saying they had stock of digital PS5's which linked me to a queue to buy one. I was about #9860 odd in the queue, got down to just under #3000 when they sold out after about 20 minutes.

Back to my Series S.

There's an Arstechnica article from about a month ago that quotes Sony as saying they are still on target for about 15 million consoles produced for this fiscal year, which runs to March 2022.

That would put about 23 million PS5s on the market/sold 18 months after its release date of November 2020.

The PS4 had a similar amount of consoles produced and sold in its first 18 months of production, and there were no semiconductor shortages then.

I think what happened is that Sony didn't anticipate the wild demand for the PS5. They probably figured they'd hit similar numbers as the PS4's robust sales in its first couple years. But I guess it wasn't enough! The article states the same thoughts.

2023. I think my fears were well founded that this generation will be a sleeper generation that either ends up running for 10 years before it's replaced, or comes and goes with a wimper and never cements itself as a full generation. By the time it gets going, it'll be mostly over.

@Skywalker1080p Series X was certainly not left over that day. Series S, yes, but X was as nasty an event as the PS5 preorder, albeit more controlled.

@DefiledViper Switch uses older, cheaper, simpler tech that's deep into it's production routine already and less complicated to produce, with much, much better die yields. They're not getting their full allotment either, but it's easier to crank out a lot of the Tegras and MMC storage than it is the PS/XB parts, plus it's also not competing with PCs for the prod capacity, competing with mobile more for supplies. One of the contributors to the shortage is the recent rapid expansion of big datacenters.

@theheadofabroom key word scalpers, they are the source of the issues mainly but of course the materials needed for the ps5 seems to be a issue also, it's fustrating but what else can we do about it? Just play other things in the meantime.

@ApostateMage wow, crazy, 9k? Hehehe like I said these things are like goldmines if you find one for retail price!

@Gizmo4383 mine is still working but for how long? I certainly wouldn't be able to find a replacement...

@sanderson72 it's all about common sense really, but if people really find something so simple so confusing, idk what their priorities really are tbh.

And yes the pro should be sold for no more than 200 Brand new but the prices are starting to creep up, I've been lucky to see a small few in cex for 300 but that's about it really, I really should bite the bullet and buy a backup tbh (maybe do naughty things with it too if I get the chance...) 😃😃

@amenohi I've been so busy with my PS3 and playing retro stuff, I'm happy at least for now 😁😁

@huyi I mentioned scalpers because it's s common issue any time there's something that can't meet demand. They're a symptom rather than a cause, and don't really contribute much to the issue other than making a good scapegoat. Most of the examples I gave were in the 90's when online shopping was barely a thing, and you'd get scalpers organising sweeps along the highstreet going into ever shop that sold the things 🤷

I've had the chance to buy about 4 of them in Melbourne, just put name down for next drop at whatever store accepts taking your details via ID and you will get one on the the next drop. I actually bought 2 through the stores with little fuss this year. Waited about 6 weeks both times after putting name down.
For those without, you aren't missing out on much anyway. There has been only a couple games that are must plays that aren't on PS4.

By the time you can buy a ps5, the ps6 will be out

The only thing that worries me(because I am selfish) is if my PS5 dies and I can't get one the next day :-/ Yes I can't live without my PS5 Saying that I'll just get out my PS4 and play some games I nearly played last gen until I find one(yeah I'm sad I know I got it all worked out)

@Gizmo4383 @huyi Pop the lid on the Pro and clean the fan - makes one heck of a difference!

Having owned an original Playstation, a fat PS2, a fat and a slim PS3 (still have the latter) and an original PS4 and Pro (again, still have the latter) I am really finding myself feeling very nonplussed about the PS5. So it plays some PS4 games a bit better than the Pro at a cost of £450?
I really am considering going down the Switch route for a year or so and wait for Playstation to become relevant to me again. Might even have a nicer looking case by then...

@sanderson72 Yh I cleaned it before quite recently, it doesn't stay quiet for too long though, because I couldn't get a ps5, I bought an Xbox series s, it's not a bad little machine, I only got it for gamepass, which was quite good, that and the PS4 pro should last me until I can get a ps5.