All the way back on 6th July, when Sony announced its post-E3 State of Play centred on PlayStation 5 timed exclusive Deathloop, it said that the show would not feature any updates on God of War Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West, or the next-generation PSVR. “Stay tuned throughout the summer,” it promised, “as we’ll have more updates soon.”
Fast-forward almost two months and, well, we’re still waiting. To the organisation’s credit, we did get an update on Horizon Forbidden West during Gamescom 2021 – it’s been delayed – and there will apparently be pre-order details announced later this week. Sony did host a private presentation with third-party developers on its new PSVR headset, but our understanding is that a public announcement is not planned until next year.
Which just leaves God of War Ragnarok really, and it feels unlikely we’ll be getting any update on that within the coming weeks. So-called industry insiders have been promising a press conference all year, but it hasn’t happened yet. The latest line of speculation is that something is planned for September, which seems reasonable, but could just as easily come and go.
Currently, the company doesn’t have a single first-party PS5 exclusive announced: upcoming releases like Gran Turismo 7 will also launch on the PS4, after all. In fact, despite the promise of more news this summer, it’s worth noting that some countries consider 1st September to be the beginning of autumn already. Considering this blog post was written in the US, the organisation’s still got about three weeks left, so we’ll give it the benefit of the doubt.
Alas, the silent treatment, for now, continues…
[source blog.playstation.com]
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"So-called industry insiders have been promising a press conference all year, but it hasn’t happened yet."
Reminds me of last year when "insiders" claimed every week there will be a Nintendo Direct
I feel there'll be an early September State of Play as one final State of Play to promote Deathloop.
I feel we're going to get a surprise stream that'll fill out the rest of the year.
Or not.
The current situation is a bit disappointing.
Of course there are a lot of games coming 3rd party, cross gen exclusives, even older games that have been missed so far.
But in terms of the Ps5 itself and „we believe in generations“ it’s really underwhelming currently.
@Grumblevolcano Please no. (I wouldn't be surprised!)
I would just like an hour long presentation exclusively focused on PS Studios stuff. No indies. No third-party. All PlayStation exclusives.
All I want to know about is PSVR and GT7. It’s been enough time since their last update on this. How do they expect to keep anticipation alive with such Infrequent news and no release date.
Big fan of Sony but am I the only person who thinks there marketing and communication department needs to be completely revamped? How boring can they continue to be?
Lol its time to agree the so called "insiders" don't know what they're talking about.
@mrtennis1990 100%
*****, at this point, I'd be thrilled if Sony just released the PS5 firmware update already to allow (the rest of) us to use the SSD's we've all purchased ¯(ツ)/¯
@mrtennis1990 Their marketing department is amazing (PlayStation absolutely dominates the mainstream).
The thing they absolutely suck at is engagement with the type of people who read sites like this. They'd probably argue that it doesn't matter to be honest.
@get2sammyb Yeah I think a 3rd dedicated event for what is a Microsoft game would be beyond obnoxious, not even Sony's exclusives would have gotten that much attention.
I don't care about having too many games restricted to PS5. PS5 still plays them better than PS4, even if slightly. The proper ps5 games will come eventually when it is financially feasible.
Also not such a big deal to have more Playstation exclusives in the short term. They already gave Ratchet, Returnal, Miles Morales and Demons Souls. There is a gluttony of third party games coming out that will leverage PS5 for better performances.
If you want constant new quality games, you need to have more than one gaming platform.
Edit: I do think they need to work on their communication though.
People say Horizon was delayed when they never gave us a definite date for this year. I appreciated how Guerrilla said that they were trying to make sure they had a safe balance of work/safety while working on the game so that people wouldn't complain about the game coming out next year.
I expect a State of Play for Kena at least in the next few weeks, and maybe one in October with Solar Ash coming up, and then updates on Horizon, GT7 and other surprise games. I think people just have to be patient for just a little longer and it will be worth the wait.
I think they are just waiting for the fervor to die down. After saying gt, hfw and gow were all coming to the ps4(totally understandable, from a financial pov) the vocal minority got really loud. That's all.
Regarding PSVR2, just checked online that the Texas Instruments TUSB1044 10 Gbps USB Type-C bi-directional linear redriver (as per ifixit.com) inside the PS5 has "DisplayPort 1.4 as Alternate Mode" and can use all 4 lanes in the same time to transmit the full bandwidth of DisplayPort 1.4 of 32.4Gbs (3840 x 2160 / 120 Hz / 10 Bit Chroma / HDR)
So most probably the next PSVR will use the 2 front ports (USB-A for additional power and sensor data)
Edit:
Source1 - VESA Spec
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/D2T1-4%2520-%2520VESA%2520DP%2520Alt%2520Mode%2520over%2520USB%2520Type-C.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjo69zY1a_yAhUG_7sIHdsyDtUQFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1hRYUU5pIfjEGQYTqRmVP1
Source2 - Texas Instruments
https://www.ti.com/product/TUSB1044
@mariomaster96 Don't forget the Switch Pro. 😝
This whole summer has been weird, the never ending 2020, so it doesn't surprise me they've been quiet recently, they've been quiet for years but now they have an excuse.
Would like to see GoW 2 get officially named b/c I don't believe it's Ragnarok yet.
If this silent treatment continues past E3 next year, PS5 will be my exit console for being up to date on gaming after being an avid gamer for more than 30 years. There's very little I have any excitement for announced for any platform right now. The gaming industry is in a massive slump and has been since well before covid.
As for PS5 specifically... there's almost no reason to own one if you have a PS4.
Props on the Happy Gilmore article pic.
Did they really say summer? Maybe they said "Stay tuned throughout the some uhhhh..."
Sony is chilling like a villain.waiting patiently.haha.hopefully its sooner than later.word up son
“Stay tuned, the day of reckoning will come, the record will be set straight.”
@ApostateMage I could have sworn it was Caddyshack 😂
I've said it before, and ill say it again. This is PS3 Sony all over again. They made good with the fans during the PS4 and now their back to having their nose in the air and not even having a summer event to get you excited over the next year, and i feel it started to be this way when Shawn Layden left and Jim Ryan took over.. Like the article says, Sony doesn't even have a PS5 game announced. Thats why I do not understand why people are so antsy to buy a PS5.
@RBMango Haha that's hilarious. That will never happen with this Sony.
@nessisonett Both great comedy flicks about golf. You were on the right track.
I think they have the pulse of the consumer. Usually large lengths of silence means some big surprise announcements are incoming. Remember they said they have 25ish IPs in development and many are new. I'd expect something we have no idea about even being in development being released by spring of next year. Just my hunch. They've done so much right regarding their games and IPs that I think we take the silence as a bad thing. I mean does anyone remember the XsX reveal with Hellblade 2 cinematic? That was literally all they had made as they've just recently announced moving beyond a vertical slice and into full development. That game is still years out. At least Sony rarely if ever does that
God of War Ragnarok? Never heard of it.
I just want an hour long showcase stuffed with games - no 10 minute, 15 minute State of Play's - lets have something massive again. 2022 is set to be massive for the industry, so there must be something they can share
@ScottyG "Take a better stand, put money in my momma's hand. Get my daughter this college plan, so she don't need no man."
-King Nimrod of Babylon
@QBGaming12 True, it didn't but wasn't it expected at the end of the 2021?
I'd be happy with an update on FF 15. Oh and we are almost to the first Persona 25th anniversary announcement so that's nice! I got a date for Horizon so I'm happy on the 1st party playstation front.
@get2sammyb probably it does not matter, as we hardcore fans make a small % of the whole community.
But still - it feels like they are turning back to their biggest fans. They should definitely do something about that.
@Ken_Kaniff Not necessarily disagreeing with your points, but I think it's often misunderstood and worth clarifying that Shawn Layden never had Jim Ryan's job.
Shawn Layden was basically in charge of PlayStation America and later was "chairman" of PS Studios (a role that no longer exists). Jim Ryan is in charge of the entirety of PS.
It was funny how Microsoft baited them into changing their entire way of handling exclusives. Sony now has hindered their current lineup while Microsoft changed lanes but kept their promise of next-gen games going to old consoles by using streaming.
I don’t expect a BIG show from Sony because I bet they have nothing to show. We’ve heard this discussion every month about how the upcoming month would be a great time for an update, yet, nothing is shown.
I believe they'll start doubling down on PS5 exclusives when they can actually keep up with the demand for the console itself.
@get2sammyb Layden & Yoshida were the last spokesman executives they had, regardless of roles, however, we have to go back to House, Tretton, and Hirai if we're looking at the last executives who cared about their image among enthusiasts.
"Chairman Worldwide Studios" was a Ryan-created prison. A manufactured role to get Layen sidelined and out of the picture in a hand-made gilded cage to do just that.
@Ken_Kaniff has it right though, things really started sliding downhill after House. But when Hirai left things took a predictable dive. The timing lines up with Layden, but mostly because it put Ryan specifically over him while Hirai was more aligned with him.
Sammy has it right, though, above, that the issue now, is Sony's not really a brand oriented at "us" at all anymore. They're a mass market brand with mass market appeal now. They're not terribly fussed about the enthusiast market, all of us here including staff, which is a small portion of their total market now. Which is why some of us are shifting more of our attention to competitors who are more interested in appealing to said enthusiast customers.
Yeah, the lack of true PS5 exclusives is killing me. GoW went from day one to maybe down the road. Everything I want from it involved to PS4 shackles. Now it feels unexciting and in ambitious. It’s way too far into the PS5’s life span to give first Larry games the light of day on PS4 outside of stuff like GoT.
Obviously Covid has had a huge impact, but where's Factions 2 ? Gran Turismo 7 news? PSVR 2 ?
Feels like there's been little to no excitement for me since TLOU2 reveals
@get2sammyb I'm just more referring to the culture change with the departure of key people like Shawn Layden and Andrew House. They were so much more engaged and in tune with the hardcore audience. I used to feel so much excitement for Sonys yearly events and now its just boring targeted State of Plays that focus on one game that we usually already know enough about. Theirs very little to be excited for anymore. Its alot of the reason ive still yet to even attempt to buy a PS5.
@NEStalgia You're exactly right. Yearly conferences we're aimed at the enthusiasts that really loved the brand, and this Sony could care less about that. Give them a few years and people will see the real change. Sony is slowly shifting away from the type of games we all loved. Wait until the game from Haven studio which is a GaaS, or the MP game from Firewalk, or the MP The Last of Us game hits in the next few years and thats just what been announced. This is why this is the first generation that I've just sat on the sidelines and watched. I probably won't make a decision on a console purchase until I see where Sony goes and what the 24 studios MS has start to produce.
@munstre Yes, I'm aware of the order of CEOs of SIE. But the Chairman Worldwide Studios was created for Layden as a gilded cage regardless. Though I do stand corrected, it was not Ryan, but Kodera that built that cage. Though those two were kind of a dynamic duo, so it's hard to separate their roles. Although even Kodera has now bailed....
Nicely summed up. Colour us all surprised.
Yeah, I'm sick of rumours, possibilities, job listings leading to make believe what if games and just general maybes. I am so tired of Sony's silence and they need to change that pronto.
@Reeneman its either that or they show off games that aren't ready to show off and that has no release dates. honestly i'm pretty hyped up to see whats to come.
@get2sammyb
You're probably correct about Sony not caring. As much as I would like to credit the early PS4 adopters driving excitement levels and pushing the launch to be the most successful at the time, in truth it probably had more to do with Microsoft's mixed messaging and the $100 extra for an add-on few really wanted. Then Sony did what Sony does and brought the games...and it was Game Over.
That excitement hasn't waned. PS5 sales have outpaced the PS4's, all while navigating global supply chain issues.
I wish Sony would do more...an entire Summer without a true mega-event for PlayStation sucked...but they really don't have to do anything at the moment.
@mrtennis1990 if there is no news yet what do you want to show off?
Didnt we get 3 true PS5 titles already, Rachet and Clank, Demon Souls a remake but build for the PS5 and Returnal you know the game they shamed here because it wasnt worth the full price. 🤪
@mrtennis1990 As long as they keep releasing great consoles and games, they can be as boring as they want.
@uptownsoul "And it seems as though lots of people here care more about shows than about games"
Couldn't agree more.
It’s like let’s not even wait for the first day of September to complain while knowing September has always been the best bet since for an event comparable to last year. Push of course.
I also like how everyone is praising Shawn Layden for everything good in PlayStation (now that he’s gone) but nobody has any idea what the heck his job was. 🤦
@naruball people don't want "shows"… they want to know why they adopted early into a new console, and they want something down the line to look forward to.
I don't want announcements to things that won't release within a year. But if Sony doesn't have that they should give Indies and bigger 3rd Party games the plattform to show what's coming. Both sides would profit from it, even if there are some shouting out "indie console" like in the early ps4 days.
Another thing the ps5 needs is lot's of feature upgrades. My mind was blown when the ps4 got things like share play, etc. Psplus and psnow should also be revamped in order to remain competitive.
Bottom line is, the community wants Sony to succeed, but not only merely commercially, but as for gaming. There are a few here that misinterpreted any critique as trolling and get all defensive. Personally I find this consumer tribalism very annoying.
@ApostateMage @nessisonett is right - that's most definitely a still from Caddyshack. 100%
@nessisonett @HUMPERDOO FORE! Yeah, you're both right and I was totally wrong. Apologies, Nessi.
1 more thing that people do not get: lack of communication is not just about lack of shows and reveals.
As someone above mentioned - we need more features like:
...and the list goes on...
@Grumblevolcano For Kena Bridge of spirits also
I reckon we'll have a proper State of Play sooner rather than later, but I'd be very surprised if we saw much (if anything) of God of War before next year.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for another State of Play in September, but please don't waste more time on games that are close to releasing (Deathloop etc).
@Majk_SVK "and the list goes on"
Of course. Because gamers are never happy with what they get. They'll always find something to complain about. How about this? How about that? How about that other thing?
meh. Not really in a rush to get more info on GOW 2022 anyway. If it's really suppose be out next year (doubt) then it really needs a big HFW type gameplay demo. Got a bunch of games to play anyway, so again, not in a big rush.
@SilkySmile89 Good info, although they can send power over the same USB-C cable and if I'm reading the specs right there is a pair of wires that could also support usb-2 speeds, plenty fast enough for position and input. It looks viable at least that have given themselves headroom for a single cable solution although a two cable solution will be nature give them more bandwidth to play with a grow into.
While PSVR is not great Sony did wonders with what they had so I think PSRV-2 should be a highlight of PS5.
@TooBarFoo Even if it will have two connections it's still one cable. The most important thing is that it will not have any additional box like the first PSVR had. There is no need now for HDMi passthrough, PS5 has 3d audio integrated. So hopefully we will not have a mess of cables anymore.
@naruball well, true, but sometimes it is good to want more. In videogames industry I sometimes feel like we lost some of the innovations, possibilities, games etc just because of pure business side of things. I know videogame industry is business but still
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