Lost Judgment Seems to Have a Season Pass and Story DLC

Oh please no. Don’t go down that road. Yakuza games have always had ludicrous DLC practices with strange booster packs of useless items etc but I just don’t want them to start with the season passes. The games have always been proper long experiences packed full of content. Just focus on delivering that instead of DLC.

And then it begins, I guess my idea of buying at day one is gone then 😏😏

Hopefully, they add battle Royale at some stage with loot boxes. The game would benefit greatly

If it's a totally seperate story of decent length then i'm all for it. Better than having to wait for Judgement 3

Just complaining because it exist is illogical. If it expands the story of a game I love in a meaningful way - all for it

I would buy story DLC for Yakuza Like a Dragon in a heartbeat

@nessisonett This is honestly making me worried that they're gonna lock the "true ending" behind DLC like Capcom and EA.

@nessisonett Agreed.

Hmmmmmm. In theory, I can see myself supporting an RGG Studio game by buying a season pass. I've always said I wouldn't mind paying more for one of the recent Yakuza games because of how stuffed with content they are, and by proxy, I would be doing that by buying the pass. My big concern is that the main story might be compromised to make room for this story DLC, and I'd hate that. We'll just have to wait and see. I trust RGG Studio, but I don't trust SEGA when it comes to keeping their DLC practices at bay (see any Persona 5 game and their outrageous number of DLC, for example).

Just hope this doesn't mean that the main story feels cut apart to sell it back to you as DLC. Like how FF15 handled it, if those character story DLCs had been in the game from the start the story would have benefitted greatly.

Still, I want to see how substantial this DLC is. They can always do it right, like the Witcher 3's DLC.

I think some of these comments are jumping the gun a bit.

Season passes can be really good if done right. The Witcher 3 is a perfect example. The Assassin's Creed season passes have largely been very good as well.

I think the term "season pass" has negative connotations (for good reason, in some cases), but in the cases of RPGs, they basically just mean "buy this to get the expansions". And if you really like a game, then...

As the article says, RGG Studio has been releasing a Yakuza title every year since 2014. Yet we're ready to start complaining about them going with a season pass? If longer post-launch support for these games leads to longer dev cycles with more varied games at the end of them, then I don't see how that's a bad thing.

This is obviously assuming that the Lost Judgment season pass will be good, but I have reasonable faith in RGG Studio.

Well, guess I’ll be waiting a lot longer then. Don’t do separate DLC. Certainly not long after I’ve finished a game (which I’ve generally sold on by the point DLC expansions are released). I’ll buy a complete edition later if they release it physically as a complete edition, or skip the expansion altogether.

Oh look, the “DLC are bad mmmkay? If you do DLC you’re bad mmmkay?” Crew are out in full force again 😅

Planned future DLC sounds a lot better than season pass. I think the phrase 'season pass' is associated with EA therefore it gives bad vibes.

Im fine with this if they do it right. Knowing the Yakuza series, the story expansion will probably follow a side character introduced in the main game.

So long as they don't emulate Atlus' dlc practices then its fine.

Too early for people to get mad. Lets wait and see what is included. And if its fluff, dont buy it

I think the article needs a slight edit in that the Japanese version of Like A Dragon got the Final Millenium Tower dungeon as paid DLC, which to me represents a significant add-on. It was included in the base Western game but the precedent is there, and I can't help but wonder, in light of this news, whether that dungeon served as a test run for future DLC.

I understand having some reservations about how this will turn out but I think RGG has earned enough good will to be given a chance with this. I dont see them being the kind of dev to leave an important part of the main plot out to make it DLC. Of course I could be wrong about that but we just have to wait and see what this season pass involves before bringing out the pitchforks.

As someone who's always enjoyed being able to buy a Yakuza game complete on day 1 this is really crap news.

70 quid for a game then another 10/15 to complete the story means I'll be a hell of a lot more selective going forward.

If its like one of The Witcher 3 expansions then awesome. Its possible to do an add-on right. Will it be? Probably not but I'll keep an open mind.

This is what will inevitably happen to all games now Gamepass is popular. I can guarantee lots of Xbox owners will be saying to themselves "I wont buy this as it'll be on Gamepass eventually" Developers need to make up that revenue from those lost sales. This is why I laugh when people complain about Sony games being £70 (but who really pays that anyway come on|!) At least those games are fully fleshed out and not riddled with "micro" transactions and season passes (often announced way before the game is finished and shipped!)

They should increase the price point of the full game instead including paid DLCs.
I'm pretty sure, gamers would welcome that much more 😈😈😈

@Smash41 I'm paying full price for "Sony games"or any outstanding game. Apparently, alot of people did. According to the gaming charts.
Seeing Returnal launched at number 2 in the UK charts on a strongly limited hardware against a Pokémon game with 6 times the potential player base.

The only ones crying are the ones who probably waited for price drops even when they were having the previous standard price anyways.

@Smash41 lost sales from gamepass? you think xbox is not paying the developers big money to put their games on gamepass? if a publisher doesn't find the offer made by xbox profitable to put their games on gamepass they would refuse it

@OthmaneAD That’s not entirely the whole picture though.

Say the cost of putting a game on gamepass, for Microsoft, is the amount of lost revenue the developer faces + a small premium. Now the very existence of Gamepass itself on a format probably makes most customers less likely to spend money on non-gamepass games, and now that lost revenue calculation is going down.

As the attachment rate of gamepass increases then the amount of money a developer makes from non gamepass games decreases, and therefore cost to purchase for MS decreases. In this example you can see that the developer loses out both ways.

This is the actual long term issue with subscription services, not that gamepass can never be profitable, it most definitely can.

@Rob_230

Yep, Atlus just has you buy the game all over again. 😂

I don't mind DLC or Season Passes if they are done right and don't restrict the experience of the main game. I enjoy RGG games so I'm likley to be one of those people who will get the deluxe edition. RGG are fairly smart with how they use development assets which is why they can churn out a lot of content in a short amount of time.

If I wanted an argument I would have responded to the person. A shame the 2 individuals here responding to me the way they are still can't see that.

I stand by my original statement and I make allowances for certain people on here including the guy I may have been referring to as it's possible he could have started playing games during a different time to me. Again I'm thinking out loud which I'm allowed to do and will continue doing so as well in a non confrontational way.

@ShogunRok I agree but it also makes me wait for the complete edition if its all on the disc or ill skip it. 😅

@JAMes-BroWWWn Im onboard with that with a seasonpass i will always wait for a complete edition anyway. When its fully released on disc.

Eh I'll make decisions when more info arrives.

@huyi same

I don't mind. Most people don't even complete their games besides additional DLCs.
And i guess, the main game will feature enough content for hours.
I'm pumped for that game and have a joy with Judgment 1 on PS5 right now

@nessisonett Single player story DLC can be done well.

There's a balance between something like Dishonored which had a wonderful and complete story but ALSO had a brilliant story DLC that both added to the world and gave a better insight into the story from another view. It actually improved the main game. Last of Us: Left Behind is another fine example of this. Granted, these are rare. (Anyone else got good suggestions in this camp?)

At the other end of spectrum is Asura's Wrath where the literal ending chapter of the game was sold separately as DLC. (I don't think anyone's tried this since in a full priced title, though I could be wrong. Again let us know)

Another bad example was Mass Effect 3 - Citadel was obligatory imho and Javik, a key character to the lore, was also DLC.

There are many shades of grey in-between, some better than others.

But mostly it's a lot of poor B-team cash grabs that don't impact the main game but give players who want more a little bit of that. E.g. Basically every Far Cry DLC (except Blood Dragon, which was more of a standalone, and brilliant)

I'm ALL for things like Dishonored and TLoU: LB. They genuinely add to and improve the main game. Plus they let dev's try out often riskier ideas and improve the game engine before a sequel.
Ambivalent to the middle tier stuff, if some people want to play more in that world, be my guest.
But completely against Asura's wrath and ME3 DLC.

Too early to tell which this may be.

While I am not surprised, hopefully the story DLC mission is skippable and just adds some "lore".

Alot of fans will be upset, if this is critical to the story.