Returnal is easily the biggest game Housemarque has made to date. It's important to remember that the team behind this sci-fi shooter is relatively small, but the game is being positioned alongside other key PlayStation 5 software like Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales and Demon's Souls. In some ways, it's an unfair equivalence, because this isn't a triple-A scale production. However, the Finnish studio has made a name for itself with its stylish, swiftly paced action games, and that very much rings true in its latest effort.
From our time with the game so far, a handful of things stick out. Most importantly, it plays wonderfully; a combination of responsive controls, sumptuous visual effects, and (almost) flawless 60 frames-per-second performance make for a slick shooter experience. We were slightly concerned about the dual functionality of the L2 trigger, where a half press enables focus aim, and a full press activates your weapon's alt-fire. You quickly adjust to the soft lock that occurs, though, and it wasn't too long before it was second nature. Just moving Selene around is easy and fun, with her fast sprint and generous dash ability.
It's a good thing it feels so nice to play, mind you, because you'll need all the help you can get. This is one tough cookie. The tentacled monstrosities of planet Atropos will pursue you with a plethora of projectiles and melee strikes — even the most basic baddies can be dangerous if you let them outwit you. Combat scenarios are frantic; the screen fills with neon-coloured bullets and enemies, and you're forced to keep moving and be aware of your surroundings. You've a single weapon, its alt-fire, consumable items, and your mobility going for you, and it's enough to see you through, but this is very much a game of skill.
When it's all going off, and you're blasting aliens, hoovering up Obolites (currency), and making it through tough battles, it's very satisfying to play. Selene is relatively fragile, but with deft control and a level head, it feels great to conquer her foes.
You won't be constantly killing baddies, however. Returnal dials the action up to 11, but some areas have no hostiles at all. The randomly generated maps are stitched together in such a way that the environment has a fairly good ebb and flow, meaning you do get some respite — it isn't all go. Each individual area has been designed, and they're jumbled together in differing orders with each run you make. The result is that the layout will change, but you'll come to recognise each component space.
Despite some repetition in the setting, we've found the game to have a strong "one-more-run" factor. Whether that's because of the fast restarts or the slow trickle of progress, it's a compelling experience. A rogue-lite structure means that you lose most of the stuff you gather upon death, but most runs result in some form of reward. Ether is a persistent currency that has all kinds of uses, but more than that, there are snippets of story in the form of audio diaries, permanent upgrades such as the super-handy melee blade, and new areas or items peppered throughout. An objective marker keeps you pushing forward, not just through the world but through the story. You start each run just that little bit stronger or wiser, and we've enjoyed the slow but steady progress so far.
There are lots of smart ways the game builds you up. You start with a basic pistol, but other weapons like an assault rifle and shotgun quickly come into play, and killing enemies increases your weapon proficiency. As you level that up, any subsequent guns will have better stats or additional effects. Your adrenaline level builds as you beat baddies without taking damage, giving you some passive benefits. Parasites give you a positive and a negative effect, and fabricators are essentially shops, giving you access to items and artifacts to further boost your chances. There's quite a lot to take in, but it all works cohesively.
We'd be remiss not to talk about the DualSense functionality, by the way. The haptic feedback in particular is excellent — you can feel the rain, the hum of enemy projectiles, and the thud of Obolites as they're picked up. It really does add another layer to the experience. As does 3D audio, which helps to locate enemies in those potentially chaotic firefights.
It's still early days of course, and we can't wait to share more with you soon, but what's encouraging is that we want to hop right back in and keep going. By its very nature, this is a game about repeating cycles, but so far it's doing more than enough to hold our attention, and keep us curious about what's around the next corner.
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Nope, you aren't gonna do it Pushsquare. I'm not going to fall for the Lucy/Charlie Brown bit with the football. You're going to hype this game up and the second I preorder it, there will be a review posted saying it's disappointing. I'm not falling for it! Not this time! Somebody please stop me...
Love Housemarque, actually became a really good player at Nex Machina and it made me fall in love with arcade style gameplay all over again so I'm excited for this. Glances and realizes you still dont have a PS5
Me: Well shi.....
@tselliot
Hyyyyyyyyyyyype (and some other words so I can post the reply)
Already preordered
love how it's still a full on Housemarque game despite the upgrade in production, more story focus and different genre etc.
@PegasusActual93 Hopefully you'll be able to get a PS5 soon and pick up this game with it! Console's building a nice little library now, so hopefully stock gets better as well.
I want to get this, but I can't for $70. I know I'm being that guy by saying it, but it's the truth. It's just a bit too much to ask. And I'm not paying $60 for it after release, so it's a case of waiting for it to go down to $40 or less. Unfortunate, but it's the way it goes with self-sabotaging pricing.
I'll buy it on a sale!
Sony keeps giving me lots of other games to play so this one can wait.
@get2sammyb Would you say that it does enough to set itself apart from the sub-£25 rogue-lites like Binding of Isaac, Risk of Rain 2, Gungeon, Dead Cells, Hades etc?
@Jaz007 hopefully you’re in the minority and Housemarque gets all the support they deserve
I'm not buying it until it is at 60 and Sammy is there anything like Astro where you feel every step you take with the haptic feedback? I was disappointed that only Astro did it.
Awwww I want to play this so much but I think I can't be home on the 30th
The only thing worrying me in this game is the variety of weapons and upgrades. I want to have TONS of upgrades in a game like this!
I want to play this so bad but I still can't get my hands on a PS5 yet. It seems like it will be on sale by the time I can even get my hands on one.
@nessisonett I’ve not played it yet but I’m sure @Quintumply can answer!
Going to wait . See a review. Especially considering ps5 games price tag of £70/$70. Considering I get most ps4 games for 40/45. Also considering its not a triple AAA game but a good indie game . Not really played any other game by the developer
@Nepp67 Yeah, @Quintumply will explain better but he was saying this has awesome DualSense features! And amazing 3D audio, too!
I went 10 years without playing games, up until getting a PS5 in Nov. Now I’m playing games that make me realize how phenomenal the PS4 gen was. I just started Nier Automata today for example... and Returnal is on the top of my list. I hope it lives up to high expectations cuz I’ve been playing some absolute bangers the past 6 months.
So you say it is not a triple A game, yet it is still £70? I'll deffo be playing it at some point as it looks like great fun, but a weeks worth of shopping on a game, in this climate? I'd get my arse handed to me!
Yes!! This sounds like the over the should, third person Housemarque game I’ve always wanted. All of their games are hard but they fantastic
Pushsquare already convinced me this game isn't worth full price, thanks Pushsquare
@tselliot do not preorder. Just wait for a review and buy later. I’ve already learned my lesson.
I didn’t need more reason to be hyped for this game, but here you are, giving it to me anyways.
@2cents It’s not that they don’t deserve support, but there ain’t a good reason for games to have a price hike. The only one is Sony think they can get away with it. It’s not Housemarque’s fault at all. If others think like me, we wills soon have all games be $60 again. Sony will also realize the game wasn’t the reason for it’s poor launch performance, it was Sony’s insane pricing. Which would hopefully mean they change their criteria for success and making a sequel.
If that happens, we all win.
@johnny30 This is a triple AAA. By any definition it is. What are you roaming about?
OK im sold ,been watching some previews and it looks so good ,loving the features and the rogue elements and procedural gameplay look really well implemented.
@Nepp67 the only thing I've heard mentioned is the rain and you feel it on the controller ,probably other things too dunno,the triggers are well done as well apparently ,half press for standard fire ,full press for alt fire.
@johnny30 it looks AAA to me ,I was in exactly the same mindset as yourself ,but graphics,audio,acting etc it looks as good as any AAA game.
@Jaz007 the article states "this is not a triple A scale production". Thats what he's roaming about...
@2cents IF it is a double A game, then the support they deserve is 35 sheets max. If it is triple A, they deserve 60.
Thats 50 and 80 dollars to Americans.
@Jaz007 do you even have a PS5? What’s the last game you’ve purchased full price??
@Loftimus I feel like they deserve my 70 usd regardless of the classification of quality you are deciding it deserves. My hope is more people share my point of view and pay full price for Returnal to support this amazing studio and platform
In Housemarque I trust.
Eh. Even if I had a PS5, Housemarque's record isn't great for me, as I find most of their games to be pretty thoroughly forgettable. This looks more interesting than most, but I'd probably for wait it to hit $30 or less.
Thankfully, if and when I do get the system, I expect the game will likely be pretty cheap in sales.
@2cents yes but surely you can't expect people in other countries to support a double A game for the equivalent of 97 usd, can you? I really want to play the game but can't justify that price. It's Sony's fault not housemarques.
For all those thinking of buying it I’ve attached a link to another site which has a really good in depth preview of the game. Well worth a read and has got me really excited for this one.
https://www.psu.com/news/returnal-hands-on-impressions-ps5-a-roguelike-of-aaa-quality-that-isnt-pulling-any-punches/
Even though the game is very expensive (€80-€90) I still intend to buy it to support the Developers.
I really like what the devs are going with but I may just wait on buying the game since it's sandwiched between Nier and RE8.
But I do like what I'm hearing.
@2cents i've read a few articles now and they either say it is triple A or they dont mention it, which means it isn't an issue. I'll pay £60 for it when it's available at that price.
Edit: and i'll still be paying more than you 😂
Sounds good... but $70 PS5 games are on the same column as $60 Rehash WiiU ports on the Nintendo Switch.
It goes on the GameFly rental list or wait for a sale.
From the previews. Seems like an 85+.
My concern is how long. 15 hours should be enough for me. Seems high in replayability
@Jaz007 Well, you're not getting a sequel then!
Sure I'll get it, if I can find a PS5.
@PhantomMenace84 I’m not sure that argument about cost of living holds when the video game industry has been making more money than ever before right before the price hike. Surely the higher numbers of units sold and a larger potential audience means that prices would be trending down, rather than up? With the rise of Game Pass as well, you’d think that the growing customer base would be far easier to tap if the game didn’t cost almost two weeks’ worth of food.
It does sound great, it goes right behind Demon's Souls for games I will immediately buy when they are $60 and under. I wish the studio nothing but the best though, I'm sure if it was up to them and you asked them in private they would say it should cost between $40-$60 with a smile.
I actually suspect that the anticipated drop in price will take longer than most people think for this one. I could be wrong but Demon’s Souls, Sackboy, and Miles Morales show no signs of dropping price 5 months after release. Maybe by the end of the summer, but even then, I don’t think it’ll go down like PS4 game prices do, because of the small PS5 library right now. Maybe by Black Friday
@Quintumply So glad to finally read something about how the game feels from a real experience. I’ve got to ask: does the game feel like a Soulsborne in space with roguelike elements? I can’t tell if the game follows that blueprint or if it’s more arcade-y or something else entirely judging by videos I’ve seen. Never before has there been a game that I’ve so badly wanted to experience a demo.
After watching the game play Intro, I can tell it isn't my thing. Just like all roguelikes aren't. I really can't stand how you lose every item every time you die
Every time I try rogue like it’s all; ‘I wonder if this is the one that’ll get me into the genre’, I’ve not found one that breaks down the door for me yet.
I've never seen so many people whine about $10 in all my life 😅
@Orochilocka one word: HADES
@Juanalf think about it..you could have saved up that extra $10 since the launch of demon souls and you could have bought it by now
@munstre just do it! No regrets! 😝
@Balie3000 tried it, hated it. Appreciated it for what it was though.
I knew Housemarque had it in them to deliver. They have always made very fun games to play, they just needed the bigger backing and a chance to breakthrough.
@PhantomMenace84 Well said dude. Probably the most mature answer I've ever read about the price 👍
Discover, fight, learn, die, start again, adapt, progress… repeat until conclusion.
Oh no, I think I just realised Returnal and Deathloop are the same game, just one with assassins and one with aliens 😅
I love housemarque and their games..i can afford to splash £70 day one and support the devs...but i disagree with games costing more than £50 so i'm going to support my fellow gamers and refuse to buy on principal until it drops below the £50 mark on either amazon,ebay or psn store...i'm sure its worth every penny but i have to stand by my previous comments about sonys pricing..
I actually was interested in this game until they said it's a roguelike - that sort of killed my interest in the game unfortunately
I don’t know if this can help but the game is strangely selling for 60€ on Amazon Italy. Even if you have it shipped it’s still a bargain at launch.
https://www.amazon.it/Returnal-PlayStation-5/dp/B08QP977BD/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=returnal+ps5&qid=1619070666&sprefix=returnal&sr=8-1
Embargoes that end while I'm asleep are fun, aren't they? I'll be going through the comments and answering any questions soon!
For the benefit of those posting the inevitable '£70/boohoo/wait for sale' comments - particularly if you're in the UK - a brand new physical copy is currently available on eBay to preorder for £58.49 courtesy of a 10% off coupon available until the end of tomorrow (23rd). Article about it on Eurogamer with links by the way.
Of course I appreciate if you could only snag a digital PS5.
Pretty sure other territories will have 'closer to 60' pricing, if you look hard enough.
I watched the first 17 mins via ign. It looks really good but it shouldn't be a 70 quid game imo
Friend of mine and myself have an alternate PSN account, so we will buy day one and both play it for £70 and share the cost 👍🏻
I’m interested in it but not for £70. To be fair I won’t be paying that for any new games from Sony or anyone else.
@nessisonett So far (I've only played it for a few hours) I would say that it sets itself apart in terms of visuals and audio, PS5 benefits (fast loads, DualSense, etc) and it really does play wonderfully. It's the rogue-lite formula with a big budget, and that's what it feels like. I've yet to experience much of the story, but the way it very gradually unfurls new bits and pieces with each run is really neat. It's doing some interesting things with the rogue-lite formula — I'm most interested to dive deeper and see how the story unfolds, because I think that could be something that makes it stand out. Obviously I'll have more to say in the review
@Nepp67 There aren't haptics for Selene's footsteps, but there are for just about everything else!
@somnambulance It is very arcadey. The Dark Souls comparisons come from the high level of challenge and the boss fights, which I can kind of see, but the two games couldn't be more different, really.
@Jaz007 you are not alone. The price will hurt the sales of this game (unfortunately). I love Housemarque's games and have played them extensively since PS3.
I will not buy Returnal at full price.
I can happily wait 6 months and buy it at 50% off.
@PhantomMenace84 yes, and as a business, the publisher (not developers) has determined that they will maximize their profit margins by giving up on bigger sales numbers in favor of higher pricing.
How can this be? How are they sure this strategy will play out well? How are they sure they will sell enough to the player base to cover for lost sales?
Easy. They are not. What they do rely on though is that they will sell at higher price point to all that can't resist or don't care. They will get the next bunch later when they slightly reduce the price and then everyone else when they go 50% down.
Good for them.
I choose to be in the "everyone else" group this time around (bought their last game day1).
@Quintumply Ah that sucks but at least the haptics for everything else is great so thank you for the response!
Loved Stardust on the Amiga so Super Stardust and Dead Nation were some of the best PS3 games and I have Delta on the Vita and Alien Nation on the PS4. While they were very good, they didn't hold the attention for that long (both were quick pick-up, put-down, arcade games).
Be interesting to see if Housemarque can deliver something that much bigger and in-depth. Perhaps there's a PS5 only title worth the upgrade fee (not seen anything else yet)?
This game interests me but not enough to pay £70 for it!
Everyone is ok paying 1000's for phones every other year, and almost 1000 for a console, but 70 dollar games!!! OMG!!!BOYCOTT!!.....Stop whining about the price of games, its unbelievable to me that nobody wants to support developers anymore. At the same time those are the ones crying and moaning that games come out sloppy and buggy. A lot of you need to just stop gaming.
@GamingVeteran totally agree. Especially because you (still) have the chance to buy a physical copy of the game, play it, and if you don't like it just sell it. Probably you're going to lose 5-10 pounds/dollars but that's it. It's not that hard.
For those still moaning about the full price of the game, I refer you to comment #68...
@nessisonett Great question!
@Nepp67 Control does that. (Haptic footsteps)
@GamingVeteran people use their phones daily, and for longer then they play some games. Also it’s their money and their opinion. If they want a sound system for 10 grand but want to pay 15 euro for a game it’s their choice.
What kind of elite do you think you are for saying that people should stop gaming because they do not want to pay 70 euro for a game ?
Will gladly wait for it on PS Plus collection
@a1904 amay I ask what it is you don't like about roguelikes?
@GamingVeteran “At the same time those are the ones crying and moaning that games come out sloppy and buggy.“ What does this has to do with pricing? Games from every price range has had bugs in them. Remember Horizon Zero Dawn? That game has had less bugs then for example Days Gone while they both had the same price tag at launch. If people want to buy a game to support a dev they will do it. It is a market of supply of demand. If studios are making games that people want to play they will buy it. See GTA and Minecraft for example.
For people waiting on the price drop, you should note that Demon Souls and MM have never had a single psn sale in 6 months, and even in physical there is very little movement.
It could be Christmas sale at 20% off as the first.
Early console lifecycle will be nothing like late PS4 era where everything went on sale quickly, and went down really low by 1 year. Expect more Nintendo prices for the first 2-3 years where competition is much lower.
@GamingVeteran No, everyone is not ok paying 1000 for a phone every 2 years. Plus the console is closer to 500 and will last 4 times longer. Kids living at home sign up for the latest phones at extortionate prices, adults with bills and responsibilities don't. Personally I pay £10pm sim only that gets me more service and data than I ever need. Then buy a new phone as and when needed, usually around every 3.5 - 4 years and pick up a handset that's 18 months old for a 1/3 of it's launch price.
Similarly I have to be sensible with my money when it's comes to gaming and cannot afford, either financially or with time to buy and play every game at launch. Sure there are a few exceptions, Naughty Dog, Rockstar, F1 plus some others for me but anything else and I'll be waiting for the inevitable sale. That's even with pricing from £45-55 for fully fledged AAA games. Now with the £70 hike I, like many others will have to be even more frugal with my money AAA or not. But £70 for this really is a joke no matter how many people try and defend it.
@get2sammyb I have never seen a better use of this meme.
@Quintumply I was gunna say, so selfish posting this and going to bed.
Ultra-hard roguelike with no persistence. I wouldn't get the value out of a game that would frustrate me too much.
@velio84 No, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes later.
Really can't wait for this, definitely picking it up day one. Looks really good and happy to pay full price for it, loved resogun on PS4 and managed to get the plat for it. The game was really good fun, but hard at times. The story for returnal looks interesting roll on next week 😀. And for those waiting for a sale I would think you will be waiting for a while, same with most new consoles games take ages to go on sale due to not as much install base for the system, and even when it does go on sale I think it will be between 15 and 20%. When I buy a console at launch I expect to be paying premium for games, was same with PS3 and 4 launch games were usually around £60 for first year or so then dropped gradually to around 45-50 think it will be same for ps5 but go down to 55-60. Don't know why people who are early adopters complain and say I'm waiting for a sale, this is what happens when you buy a console at launch you pay a bit more at the start, if you don't like it then maybe wait a year or two until games are cheaper that's my opinion anyway.
@Adge There are unlocks that are persistent and according to the article there is a currency for purchasing things after runs are over.
@PossibLeigh I'll be trying that out then, thanks!
@tselliot 🤣
@djdizzy 10 years? Wow, what a backlog!
@Jeanhenry you ain’t wrong. I’d have hesitated at £50 for this game at £70 there’s absolutely no chance now.
People around here who defend this seem to forget we don’t all have the money to throw at games, a hike of £20 is no small amount especially during a pandemic when people are losing jobs not gaining them. Very short sighted people, or rich.
@velio84 #truthfact
@2cents I can't believe your way of thinking, "hmm someone doesn't want to pay £70 (SEVENTY POUNDS) for a PS5 game, he must be lying about having one."
Doesn't make much cents mate does it?
My problem with all of this is with the rise of services like game pass, it's become almost a dirty thing to actually pay full price for a game now in the eyes of some.
Gonna wait for reviews from a few places before I make the plunge (money in my playstation account ready to go) but I'm pleased to see the hands on seems to be going good.
@Abarth_71 @Marquez
‘Support the developer’
‘Buy cheaper on eBay’
It’s also out of stock.
@Adge It’s actually a roguelite with persistent elements after death.
@nessisonett Ah not for me it wasn’t! Shame. Also, by the time it’s got to eBay, the cut that goes to the dev has usually been paid.
Anyone know if there are multiple difficulty levels on this one? I'm very tempted to pick it up but time is precious these days.
@SegaBlueSky I believe there aren't. Apperently there's a message displayed at the start that says the game is designed to be challenging.
@Voltan Ah, good to know, thanks. I'm sure I'll still get it, but might have to wait until I have a bit more time to commit properly.
@Quintumply Thank you! That comment really reassures me on the game. I’m not much a fan of Souls games, but I do love a good arcade-y challenge, so this game truly does sound like it’s for me. Looking forward to your review. (Hopefully the embargo let’s us see that before release?)
@AdamNovice I think gamepass is utterly dissolving the reality of very talented people working their asses off for a very long time, and publishers having the audacity to fund such an enterprise with any notions of making more than they spent.
@Voltan if it’s anything like nier automata on hard mode. Well...🤣
@Jaz007 Completely this - I'd love to support the game, even though I am not a huge fan of roguelikes but I can't justify that cost for one game at the moment.
This has nothing to do with the quality of the game - it's just a price point that I'm not comfortable with when I know that this will be reduced in 6 months time.
@KayOL77 I haven't played that yet. From what I've seen in the preview streams (I only watched a few minutes), the basic enemies at the start were pretty easy to dispatch and then they met a bigger one and the guy playing the game was like "oh, wow, ok" - and then he died
But I think it was supposed to happen early on the first run to progress the story
Looks like getting used to being on the move all the time and becoming best friends with the dash button is key in Returnal. Aiming mechanics seem to be quite forgiving.
Hi there fellow gamers.
Thank you @Quintumply for the preview and for the HYPE!
I want this game and I will get it DAY ONE!
April 30th can´t come soon enough.
Cheers, stay safe, stay well and happy gaming to us all
We should not be hyped for any game, espicallly after cyberpunk remember how pushsqare any many others hyped it? £70 is another reason not to hype it, really expecting a 180 from pushsqare, not the first time they have hyped a game and once it's out its a different matter
Game looks amazing.and PlayStation access had a 50 minutes gameplay on theyre channel.word up son
@GamingVeteran you're paying the least out of the entire world! You don't get a say in this.
will pick up within a month of release
I'm from Brazil and in here Amazon is selling the game at the equivalent to U$ 60, after a price drop last week. Already pre ordered it. If anyone still have doubt about the craft and effort put into this game go see the Skill Up YouTube preview. I think it is very enlightening! "It STINKS quality"!
Returnal got sandwished between Nier and RE8 so sadly I wont be playing it despite being perfectly hyped for it.
This sounds a bit like The Persistence on PSVR. I enjoyed that game so may pick this one up. I hope it's not frustratingly challenging.
My main concern for this game is due to the presentation of bullet hell in a 3D setting. The camera position behind the main character is not conducive to full situational awareness. Eurogamer touch on this in their piece. They also say that attacks are well telegraphed which is a good way of sidestepping the perspective issue. It's looking really good. Still can't afford it.
@PossibLeigh Just not a fan of the style of gameplay and when I get stuck at a specific point it'll often take me ages to get past as you constantly start from the beginning. I think for a roguelike to be a game I'll enjoy it would have to have scaling difficulty options like Hades
Sounds ace! I'm just glad to have a real next-gen game to play!
few years it will be on PS+ i'll play it then
Meh. This game seemed bland at the June reveal, and still does. It don't seem like a $70 first party release. It doesn't feel like a $60 first party release either. It feels like they're taking a b-side and trying to convince everyone it's an a-lister just by making it expensive.
@a1904 Doesn't like roguelikes, but likes Hades. There's an essential contrast there I just can't put my finger on! 😜 Does Hades (an archetypal roguelikes) have scaling difficulty? I thought it just got harder with each new biome. I missed that AND was still crap at the game.
In Returnal's favour, I hear that once you beat an areas boss, you never have to fight them again. May make those restarts slightly less annoying. I see what you are saying though. Auto saving before each 'room' would go against the design principles of roguelikes.
@PhantomMenace84
first, EA does not have NBA game
second, every game game which cost 70$ came after Sony's announcement that their games will cost 70$.
third, almost all developers-publisher still charges 60$ for their games.
vote with your wallets.
i would gladly buy this game, but not for 70$, so instead that they got 120$ from two people, they will get 70$ from two people because people will gonna look more to the second hand deal where developers-publishers get nothing.
Day one...Always knew the gameplay would be good, the glowing previews have sold me even more. I think it'll review 87-90 and be another must-play. Waiting for Hades to be ported to PS5 so it's nice to have our own Rouge-lite exclusive to jump into.
@BrintaPap "What kind of elite do you think you are for saying that people should stop gaming" Nothing elitist about it, I'm just getting sick and tired of hearing about pricing in every single article being posted. You all are acting like game prices are taking actual food off your table, and if it is there's a simple solution, stop gaming and eat.
But a helpful tip to everyone that's been around since PS3 days
Make a US account
Buy US PSN cards online
Buy your games on US PSN Store
Enjoy 20 dollars off your games
Your welcome.
@tselliot I've seen alot on this game it was only up until recently that my interest grew from it, dont pre-order just wait for reviews, there's no pre-order incentive like free dlc or whatnot, just wait for the reviews and then purchase it if it's all good.
@Crayven technically there is a pre-order bonus but it’s just some cosmetics (alternative suits)
Saw a streamer play it today, he had early access from Sony and only 45mins of play time. I saw 15mins and looked / played really great. The streamer says he 100% loves it and I do too from seeing proper gameplay
Looking forward to this one. Hopefully it lives up to the previews.
@Loftimus I think the article's wrong then to be honest. Triple A doesn't mean it's Valhalla, this looks like it has very high production values and has the overall presentation and feel of a triple A game. The definition of triple A here is weird, especially because graphics aside, Demon Souls wouldn't qualify due to original development process either. Really, I would actually just say it's flat out wrong to call Demon's Souls triple A and then remove this from the category.
@nessisonett
It's a bit more complicated than that. Game development is more expensive and difficult than ever before especially if you are working with higher budgets and the reason game pass is really a thing is because Microsoft is one of the richest corporations on the planet and can afford to keep throwing money at devs to make their games available free on the service. Games used to also be more expensive on average especially during the cartridge days so there is more complexity and nuance to the modern industry.
@2cents I waited outside of Gamestop 12 hours to get a PS5 at launch. The last game I bought at full price was Persona 5: Strikers, I also bought Demon's Souls. They could get away with it at that time because I had to have it and have a launch game to play. I won't lie, there are a few games I'd pay $70 for, but amounts to Persona 6 and a couple others. A game I'm already going to get the CE of would be the best way to put it. Aside from a few cases of desperation, I'm not supporting that price point. I'm not okay with it and I can't jus fling around money that easily. $60 is fine. So many games I've bought at launch and loved just can't happen at $70.
That's not a price you can take any risk on. Any risk that you won't absolutely love the game. That stifles creativity and new IPs.
@johnny30 except it is very much a Sony funded 4 year in making triple a game
@Crayven yes there is some version have suits etc
@Gediminas then you should bought a xbox cause you knew games were 70 for Sony, and if no support then want be getting many more
Think I'm going to play Resogun and Nex Machina again to prepare myself for some Housemarque goodness.
@Djbpresents01 surprising. Sony funding a small company . But I still wouldn't call it AAA in terms of production. Especially charging full price. I think it's gonna struggle. In my opinion anyway. My issue with last gen. A lot of games were full price but only lasted 15-20 hours . In my opinion not worth the price tag.
@tselliot You're right to wait. These games are too expensive to take a chance. Look at that gawdawful Cyberpunk?
I might have gotten excited for this game if it wasn't a souls game
@Djbpresents01
i support the games, i don't support 70$ price point.
there is no excuse to increase the prices of the games, unless it is well done, well known, long and full experience.
it should be two way street, we should not support the game just for the sake of support, we should get working games, full games. now developers releasing half assed games and expecting that we pay for it full price, even 70$. thanks, but no thanks.
F xbox, garbage console.
@Icey664 It isn't a Souls game!
It sounds and looks great, but I'm finally going digital for the majority of my games this gen and I'm not paying £70 so I'll wait till it hits the sales.
I've been on board since it was announced. Just one more week to go now.
@Quintumply
Sure looks like one and is described as one. Fight, die, repeat.
@Omnistalgic Mate, if you're interested in roguelikes on PS5 I can't recommend Spelunky 2 enough. It is tough; I got it on release, but only managed to beat the "easy" run for the first time last week. It's far and away my most played game since getting a PS5, just checked and I'm up to 149 hours (which is kinda sickening lol). And I'm nowhere near to seeing everything the game has to offer.
It is a roguelike though, not a rougelite - you lose pretty much everything after death. Though you can unlock new playable characters and a few shortcuts, they take quite a while to do.
This game is the very reason I want to track down a PS5 so badly. Shame I’m having no joy whatsoever though 😢
I pre-ordered the game from Best Buy but only because I had certificates so I only ended up paying $15 for it. $70 is way too much for any game.
"We were slightly concerned about the dual functionality of the L2 trigger, where a half press enables focus aim, and a full press activates your weapon's alt-fire."
Remember when Gamecube did something similar? Nintendo was apparently ahead of it's time.
On topic: Still not so sure if I want this game, though.
The gameplay still sounds too arcadey for my liking. I know it's Housemarque's signature style, but I was hoping it would branch out to something less...frantic. It also sounds like a real chore to actually get through the story. This lather, rinse, repeat method doesn't sound like something I would like.
I wish game demos were a thing again, because this game could use one.
I've caved and pre-ordered from simply games - £64.85.
Still too much for a game but I'm a caver.
PushSquare before release: why you should be hyped for this game. PushSquare after release: game was over-hyped. ****** 6/10
I truly want to be hyped for this game, but won't be buying day one or pre-ordering.
Shall wait to see how reviews pan out and for bugs/glitches to be fixed.
People moaning about £70 for a game they'll probably plough 100+ hours into, and then go out and get smashed on the weekends and drop £80 on a G of blow.
Ok, then.
Something is missing with this game... I watched a few gameplay videos and the levels look a little bit empty like it is not finished or it is a budget game.
@LPB The protagonist is quick and the enemies and bullets large. The space is very much needed.
@LPB Compared to every other Sony title, this will be a budget title.
It's developed by Housemarque, and their library is entirely smaller titles.
Shouldnt that be the FIRST great PS5 exclusive? Is there one already?
@Jaz007 $70 US = $90 australian, yet in australia this game is $125 aud. $35 over US retail. I have pretty much given up on my ps5 already due to us literally getting ripped off for no reason at all. i call my ps5 the dust collector, pathetic effort sony.
I'll see what the reviews are saying first. I'm more interested in RE8, which I'm buying day one for sure.
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