Poor ol’ Marvel’s Avengers just can’t catch a break, can it? This week was supposed to be its big next-gen relaunch, with new Hawkeye content timed to release alongside it – instead, all anyone can talk about is how bad PlayStation 5’s upgrade procedure is. For the record, we think the hyperbole being shared on social media is obnoxiously over-the-top – but clearly this is an area Sony could, and should, improve.
In Square Enix’s defence, we had no problem finding the PS5 version on the PS Store and downloading it – which is more than can be said for Yakuza: Like a Dragon and Crash Bandicoot 4: It’s About Time, both of which were bugged at launch for existing PS4 owners. The bigger issue for Marvel’s Avengers – or certainly the thing that’s got the Internet’s goat – is the way save files transfer across.
For those of you who’ve played games like Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales and Sackboy: A Big Adventure, it’s a familiar process: you upload your save from the PS4 version and download it to the PS5 version. Obviously, this should be a lot cleaner – Xbox Series X|S automatically transfers your progress – but we feel that people who are making this out to be some kind of mind-breaking procedure are being facetious.
Nevertheless, we’re long overdue some updates to the PS5’s firmware, which clearly came in hot. Overall, we’re satisfied with many of the features and functions of Sony’s next-gen console, it’s just got some obvious quirks that could do with being smoothed over. We’re confident that, by the end of the year, the system will be in a much tidier place – in the meantime, be sure to set aside a few extra minutes to transfer your PS4 save if you’re planning to play Marvel’s Avengers.
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There is a very anti Sony narrative around at the moment. Its a bit baffling all being told. So even if the upgrade process isnt the smoothest on PS5, id wager there is definitely something else going on behind the scenes here (in reference to the hyperbole online)
I didn't think it was a big deal until I realised you need to have both PS4 and PS5 versions installed, to upload on one and then download on the other.
I was never a fan of the PS4 save system anyway. It always feels to have extra steps with an extra window, just like the old PS3 days. So hopefully they can work on this on the next PS5 firmware update to make it smoother.
I don’t understand -
So to transfer save. You have to have the updated version of ps4 version (on either a ps4 or Ps5) load and click a button.
Then open Ps5 version and click a button?!?
What world is that complicated?!?!
Or have I missed something here?!?
It’s slightly annoying, not a big deal to me but people paint it like the Xbox just obliterated the PlayStation.
Even though I didn’t like TLoU2, Naughty Dog, Horizon, God of War and Insomniac are definitely more than enough for me to pick PlayStation over Xbox. If I’m going to play games, I MUST play their games.
I'm wondering how many of these people complaining actually do own a PS5 + the game in question.
@Stocksy Nope, that's correct. Like I said in the article — and others have mentioned — it's not ideal and could be better, but it's hardly quantum physics.
I don't have a PS5 yet but it really doesn't sound that difficult lol, people are acting like it's a gigantic victory for Xbox.
They can always straight up buy the dedicated PS5 version, right?
Complaining about free games seems stupid to me.
The only real issue is if you already deleted the PS4 version, expecting to download the PS5 version later to continue your save, and then realising you have to redownload the PS4 version again just to migrate the save over.
I assume some people fell into this category and are complaining about it on social media.
The only real problem with this is that you have to have both versions still installed, which is a bit of a storage problem. Or network traffic problem if you accidentally delete PS4 version before save upload.
But it is not as bad as people are making it out to be (nor would I choose a console over this, and not over quality of games).
It's not perfect, but it's not that big a deal. Nioh had the same save transfer procedure.
But I completely agree with @get2sammyb - Some enthusiasts, and one multiplatform website in particular, are very quick to exaggerate any flaws that PlayStation currently has, or to smash Nintendo for not having enough news, while giving XBOX a free pass because they're all looking at game pass like a deer caught in your headlights.
I'm assuming that one site is looking to cash in on clicks from the ongoing "Sony are anti-consumer" narrative popular with some enthusiasts (as if any one of those companies are really pro-consumer at heart).
This save transfer "issue" is such a minor thing. It only costs you time if you have to redownload or install the PS4 version.
Is the way XBOX handles save transfers better? Of course.
Does it really matter that much? Only if you're on one bandwagon or another.
I happily have all three major consoles now. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I love them all.
This save thing is nothing. In the next year or more both the PS5 and the XBOX will have lots of quality of life updates, and they'll copy a lot of them from each other.
I was having this conversation with someone else on another website. I pointed out that they all have pros and cons, and used the batteries dying in the controller of my new Series X after one day (I assume they were faulty) as an example.
But nobody wants to hear it. I just bought the thing and I can't play it because the batteries are dead in the controller.
There's no logic in these discussions anymore. (Was there ever?)
Oh my god its the end of the world....seriously i know its not ideal but it literally takes less than a minute..it takes longer to load the ps4 version...ruined my weekend this did...
‘Anti-Sony narrative’
Sees almost every comment mentioning Xbox in an article that barely mentions Xbox.
@Shepherd_Tallon https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwj2_Yny0cHvAhWDglsKHQR6DkIYABAEGgJ5bQ&ae=2&sig=AOD64_3de9dLFx3kOKIvJf4DxpG1IAA8QA&ctype=70&q=&ved=2ahUKEwi10_zx0cHvAhVSXc0KHWFaCXIQwg96BAgCEBo&dct=1&adurl= these are perfect for the Xbox controller battery issue - works great for me, anyway
The amount of fuss people are making over this is ridiculous.
It's like the whole thing about people still being confused about which version of a game they'll be installing. There's button, RIGHT NEXT TO PLAY, that when you click it tells you which version you're going to be using. Is it as streamlined as Smart Delivery? No. Is it this impenetrable, dense, convoluted process that would challenge the average person? Apparently so.
I mean, we play games, right? We've been doing it for a while and having fun etc. Do we really need this much hand holding?
I suppose it's like George Carlin said... think of how stupid the average person is, and then realise that half of them are even more stupider than that.
But still, I despair.
@Stocksy for starters you need to have both versions installed. Some users might find it confusing and might get rid of one or stuff. Not a big deal for me personally but I can see why some people could find it frustrating. Owning also a XSX, in there the next gen version is just handled like just another update. It just updates and you are ready to go....big difference
Clickbait title and the contents sound whiny only to end with "but we don't think it's difficult". What a confusing article.
@everynowandben I prefer the removable batteries of the Xbox myself, though I love the new PS5 controller overall. I have 4 eneloop rechargeable, that I just cycle out when my batteries die. They’re right next to the couch. When the battery dies, I reach down, switch them out, and boom, never have to wire up the controller. I’ve been using the eneloop batteries for 6 years now. Obviously, it’s all personal preference.
You can't act like people are overreacting on the internet, if your own title says that this is the straw that broke the camel's back.
Not only are you propagating the same narrative while feigning disapproval, you're also attracting the usual fanboy musings and tinfoil-hattery in the comments.
Sounds like you want to have the cake and eat it too.
@nessisonett because the process is only “complicated” because Xbox have a “shorter” process and it’s been flagged up as some genius process Sony users are being “robbed” of.
Go to an Xbox site and see how the comments are for this same thing... “ponies” is mentioned a lot.
Those of us that have no preference to which of the plastic boxes we use to game - try to cut through and find real issues.... this for me isn’t one.
It's annoying for sure, I want new firmware to fix this, but I don't think it's a big deal 🤷🏻
If we're talking about big deals, where's my "long press home button to power-off ps5" feature sony? 😂
I guess it’s a YMMV situation. I found the process to be easy. I hit the migration button on my PRO and the file was ready when I turned on my PS5. No fuss for me but I guess there needs to be drama so we can all RABBLE, RABBLE, RABBLE! Lol
Migrated No man's Sky to PS5 version, very similar, upload on one version, download on the other. The problem exists on PS4 titles where the GOTY edition is classed as a different game. I got burned expecting my save from a disk version of Witcher 3 would let me play the GOTY edition. It could be better, but it's not 🙄
@everynowandben Ah thanks for the tip! I actually ordered a Venom Xbox Controller Rechargeable Battery Twin Pack the moment I realised the controller used batteries, but I'll keep the ones you mentioned in mind in case anything goes wrong.
Don't get me wrong, btw. I love my new Series X. I just haven't been able to play it because of this. Which is the point I'm making - they all have their issues, but none of them are deal breakers.
Is it stupid? Yes
Does it really matter? No
We'll be fast running out of games where this is necessary anyway
@nessisonett
Take a trip over to PureXbox, they constantly talk about Sony over there, literally every other comment is "Sony this, Pony that" blah, blah, blah. They're obsessed with Sony and PlayStation over there, even when an article has no relevance to them at all.
I think the real problem with this process is why don't your existing PS+ cloud saves transfer automatically.
Then I remember, much like with Overwatch and Rocket League things, why that isn't possible.
On Xbox, next gen enhancements are a patch. On PS5, it's an entirely separate game. Its own download, which calls to its own unique save data.
Congrats to the Xbox team for making backwards compatible/ upgrades a relatively painless process
I’m absolutely more tech savvy than your average person but can still appreciate the added convenience “smart delivery” offers
With that in mind I purchased a PS5 knowing there would be kinks and quirks that early adopters face, and so far my gaming experience hasn’t been impacted enough to justify not purchasing it day 1
As a fan of this Avengers game I’m just glad so many people are fired up about something related to it lol
@GADG3Tx87 I tested this.
I had to go down to the 16th article (not coincidentally, also the Avengers file transfer article) before I found a negative comment about PS.
And it was hardly a harsh comment. They just said they believed the PS5 was a step back in QoL features compared to the PS4.
And before that, any mentions on other articles were neutral and many were positive (or talking about how they are playing X on their PS5).
"Be sure to set aside a few extra minutes to transfer your PS4 save IF you’re planning to play Marvel’s Avengers."
Ah yes, the mighty 'if'
Isn't it kind of the same with Vita to PS3 or PS4 on games that are on both? If it ain't broke don't fix it. At least on PS you can play on PS4 while PS5 version is downloading. On Xbox you have to wait for the large update to download I assume.
The process itself is no biggy, it's the fact that you have to do none of that on other platforms that makes it look bad. Also I can see how it's confusing to more "casual" players and inconvenient for those who already deleted the game but wanted to check it out again after the upgrade.
I'm not understanding why smart delivery is being applauded so much, as it sounds worse than what Sony has. What if you actually want to play the last-gen version (i.e. to get the trophies/achievements on that version too)? My understanding of smart delivery is that it's impossible and you have to play on last-gen xbox whereas with playstation you can do that directly on the PS5.
(I don't follow xbox news at all, so forgive my ignorance here)
As for how cross-saves are handled, not knowing what limitations exist, my intuition is devs could make it seamless if they wanted, but they don't care enough too.
Telltale showed that they can read save files from different games (e.g. Walking Dead 2 reads your Walking Dead 1 save). So all you need is the PS5 version to read the save of the PS4 version (if it's on the same console) without the need to launch the PS4 version.
The existing process is good for people who don't have PS+ to transfer their saves across consoles though (but bad for when the servers go down, like Sound Shapes).
So I don't quite get it. This is the last straw? And the writer is quitting Avengers or PS5 or what? Or do you not know what the saying means?
I hadn't installed the ps4 version on my PS5 as I wanted to see what the upgrade brought, yes I had to Google how to transfer my save and had to wait to download the ps4 version which FYI you only need to download the first 15gb not the full game. But it wasn't difficult to do and I'd say most people who play it consistently on ps4 had already done the transfer before they upgraded. I think there are people who look for things like this to get upset over, it's like they get some kind of gratification from complaining about Sony. The Internet is a sad place right now.
@Rob_230 I’ve listened to a lot of podcasts recently where it seems like every conversation eventually turns into praising Gamepass, even when the conversation has nothing to do with Gamepass.
“This week I’ve been playing ‘X game’. It’s great! But I really wish it was on Gamepass. Gamepass is the best. Xbox is the savior of the industry because Gamepass. Everyone should subscribe to Gamepass because Gamepass Gamepass Gamepass. Sony needs to do something like Gamepass.”
This coming from people who have every system and get all their games for free anyway. It’s very clear there’s Microsoft money coming in, either from direct payments or investments or advertising promises, etc.
@Rob_230 I'm guessing people are getting rubbed the wrong way by how bad the PS5's games' values seem compared to Game Pass. This massive upheaval in game consumption, kind of makes Sony look like a rip-off merchant even though they're doing what was seen as normal, a year ago. It's good really, though. When publishers feel the heat and have their backs against the wall, that's when we get their best efforts.
While I agree it’s a mountain out of a molehill, and there’s only a handful of games this applies to, there are some super annoying cases particularly if you still play physical media.
I had sold Spider-man on PS4 so had a choice of either repurchasing it or starting from scratch for Spider-man remastered on PS5. In the end I re-bought the PS4 version, then returned it for a refund once the transfer was done. Definitely clunky and inconvenient.
@Shstrick I'm pretty sure Joe Casual Public love GamePass, too. Hardcore Sony fans will buy PS5s (when they can bloody find them) and £70 games just fine, but when JC Public see GP's offering and price, it'll seem like a no-brainer to them. Again, it's good as it'll force Sony to make interesting, pro-consumer decisions.
@Shstrick yeah, absolutely. The thing thats rubbing me up the wrong way is - well, Microsoft might as well buy Sega, Square Enix, Capcom. Its going to happen isnt it, its happening, lets make it happen.
Its disrespectful to the player bases of those companies games on other platforms - take persona - it has always been on playstation, but people advocating Microsoft marching to Sega with a bag of money to make it exclusive - not because they particularly want it, but simply because they think its funny. Its just irritating me no end now.
Transferring save files has been the only thing I have noticed that the PS5 doesn't do as well/better than Xbox Series X after having both for a couple months. A few games did work flawlessly w/ transferring save files, a few did not....but it only took a quick Google search and few button clicks to fix.
I'm not a huge fan of how Xbox forces an upgrade to the Series S/X version of the game, storage space be damned and won't allow you to play the Xbox One version of the game. Internal/Expansion Card Storage only.
@themightyant You're not the only one....
So Xbox has managed to make this a seamless process but we're still gonna defend Sony why?
Welp, that sucks. I deleted my PS4 version the moment I seen all my characters on the main menu. =/
Yeah I had to do it 4 nioh it's a bit more of a pain than I would of liked, as I had been staying wiv fam at the time and had 2 reinstall nioh 2 and dlc back on my ps4 as ps5 memory really is quite poor (not end of the world but not good either 😭🌍🤣) to be safe on a 10mb tinterweb connection so 5min became 4+hours. Plus figuring it out through Google as I wasnt sure what it meant at 1st but once ya know yeah it's really more of an inconvenience really?? 👍😂
@Milktastrophe on Xbox, the next gen and last gen achievement lists are one and the same. Its completely seamless. Earn an achievement in Yakuza Like A Dragon on your xbox one, turn on your series X and load your save game and earn the next achievement. It’s just one game. Which is why the saves work so well. I have my Series X downstairs and my One X upstairs and you can literally just carry on playing between the two consoles as if it was the same thing (though obviously at a higher quality on the SX) It’s pretty awesome to be honest.
Smart Delivery is a good thing and anyone saying they don’t need it, are only saying that because they haven’t tried it (or are against Xbox for whatever reason). In no way is Sony’s solution better.
I can understand the frustration from PS players though with this, as you could definitely have deleted your PS4 copy to make space for the PS5 version. So yea thats annoying.
@deathaxe Does this mean that every time the press say something positive about Playstation they are being paid to? Or only when it’s about Xbox?
What a clickbait title i expected Sammy not too be that cheap guess i was wrong.
@Flaming_Kaiser i would'nt class this as click bait compared to some of the other articles (harry potter anybody?) I think it was pretty well balanced and i would have been all over it as i've been pretty vocal in the past about said things...lets not be too harsh here..
It's not overly complex to find the PS5 version of a game or to transfer saves but it's still not as easy to bring your saves over from Xbox and after years of Sony and its fanboys mocking dumb stuff Xbox did last gen you think there won't be a little kick back? The way I see it, the more people bring attention to, even minor inconveniences, the better. I fully expect by the end of the year, maybe much sooner than that, Sony will have this sorted out because people have mentioned it.
@deathaxe I feel like no one can really judge the success of Gamepass for the next maybe year or two... then we can all have a look at the real figures and see if it is sustainable for Microsoft or not. Me personally... I have no idea either way. As a consumer it’s great.
Also not sure what sock puppeting is (lol?) gonna have to google that... and not sure why i’m on anyones ignore list really. I barely post on this site but oh well no worries!
I do like the article's bashing of entitled, moany gamer attitudes. I wholeheartedly agree; people need to calm down a little bit. At least you can transfer saves between versions - it's a better situation than cross play, where for example if you have The Witcher 3 on three consoles (Xbox One X, PS4 Pro and Switch in my case) there is totally no crossplay, that's PC to Switch only AFAIK.
"Overall, we’re satisfied with many of the features and functions of [the] console, it’s just got some obvious quirks that could do with being smoothed over."
To be fair you could say that of the PS4, but certain "quirks" like the Store being a slow, cluttered mess and the UI always being sluggish even using a Pro with an SSD fitted were never fixed which is pretty shameful. So I would wager that a fair chunk of PS5 problems will still be there in 2028 or so when the generation draws to a close. At least by then there will be a smaller, slimmer model with 2TB SSD storage on the motherboard and they will have fixed some other design problems like the fact the RAM on the rear side of the board runs at 95°c when a game is running, which will no doubt lead to some premature failures of launch model PS5s in the next few years. With all issues time will tell, of course, but they're educated guesses given Sony's track record.
@Shstrick True. People forget part of the reason it was invented was for Microsoft to claw back some ground after a disastrous Matrrick led Xbox One launch, it wasn't out of the goodness of their heart I'm sure.
When my "£3 for 3 months" trial is up in April I'll probably cancel tbh; other than Forza Horizon 4 which is excellent, all I've done with GP Ultimate is download games I've booted up once to get "daily quest" points for and never actually played. I basically never play online so £13 a month would be a waste when I can just buy FH4 for about that much or less on disc. Nice way to "try before buy" for some folks though, for sure.
Last week I had the call Nintendo customer support to get permission to download my animal crossing cloud save to my new Nintendo switch because my previous switch bricked itself. There were more ivr menus in Nintendo’s customer support line then there are steps to doing this.
It’s funny because I was playing the PS4 version for hours until I realized the next day that I was playing the wrong game. Took me 2 more attempts until I finally got the right version to download. The game is well-built though. A great upgrade.
Look at these comments the fact that we as PlayStation fans are defending it instead of asking Sony to fix it is really spooky. What’s wrong with wanting more from our favorite gaming company?
Hitman3 was no different. Took minutes. People love to complain
I mean I agree with the article denouncing the hyperbole but why is the title also hyperbole?
Mind you people were panicking at the idea of possibly using a screw driver if they need their console standing so I guess I get the fuss.
Another day, another outrage not at all encouraged.
🤷♂️
There does seem to be some unnecessary defensiveness on this thread. The PS5 is the hottest device in the world right now and I’ve had an amazing time platinuming Astro’s Playroom, playing through Miles Morales and revisiting older games like God of War and Wipeout. The controller is slick and I like swapping between games and media.
Turning the system off is like playing a damn mini game. I still can’t get it smooth. And the lack of smart delivery keeps me from not knowing 100% if I’m playing the upgraded version. It could be a lot more intuitive.
The Xbox has an easier to navigate ecosystem and a great game pass program. On paper they should be more competitive with Sony.
But they aren’t for two reasons. Sony still has better games and the most loyal fan base of any electronics device.
The Sony fan base would bury bodies for Sony if they were asked to.
@K1LLEGAL Smart delivery sounds like the perfect mechanism for the Xbox ecosystem where the games are the same. But it honestly doesn't sound like the right approach for the PlayStation ecosystem where the games are different and there's incentive to play both versions. How the saves transfer between PS4 and PS5 versions could definitely be improved though, and I think devs could do it without having to upload your save, since Telltale did already do just that.
Same process to transfer your no man's sky savedata to the ps5 version. I didn't think it was a big deal at all.
@Hopewell
'The Sony fan base would bury bodies for Sony if they were asked to.'
What?
Haha
Edit
And what is complicated with turning off the console? Genuinely asking 🤷♂️
@Shepherd_Tallon I use the venom and they have been great. The double usb-c cable they come with also works on ps5 controller, so funny when you charge a ps5 and xbox controller simultaneously using the same lead!
@R1spam Very nice! I never thought of that. It's a 3 meter long cable too, so no more sitting on the edge of my couch and stretching my charging cables to the limit when I need to charge and play.
So I seem to not have any of my progress come over. I played till power level 68 on PS4 and now it’s making me do all the beginning crap over again and I’m only power level 1.
Oh come on guys, this is just pathetic. Last straw? Broke camels back? Seriously, that’s an insult to camels. Yes, it may be a bit of a long winded procedure but it’s ultimately so easy even a hump or two can’t make it tricky. I just wish people would stop damning this game as, flaws aside, it’s really great fun but no, that wouldn’t be “cool” Like many before it it’s just more fodder for bored journalists and overpriveleged whiny kids to complain about. Just play the game or not. It’s really that simple. After all there’s plenty more out there if you don’t like it. So focus on them, be more positive and stop lambasting everything in the name of cheap click bait and numbers, numbers, numbers. Learn another language, read a book, plant a tree, buy a dog ... but no, other languages are too hard, books are too much effort, trees are really boring and the dog keeps crapping on the carpet. You really can’t please anyone these days, can you?
It was a little annoying having to upload each save to the cloud individually when I got my ps5, just so I could download it again. There should have been an option to do everything at once.
By annoying I mean it took 10 whole minutes. Could be better sure, but, I mean, it’s really no big deal.
As to this situation - sure, it’s somewhat inconvenient if you’ve already deleted the game I guess. But otherwise it’s a very quick process.
Can’t help but think people are just trying to find stuff to complain about.
@Kalvort
That is what happened to me.
It was not hard just time consuming and tedious.
The issue is this has been a problem for Sony that they openly chose not to fix, ever since the transition from the 3 to the 4. Even back then you used to have to download a patch on the old hardware/software in order to kickoff the transfer. (I did it for Diablo 3 during that generation transition. I also just had to buy a used copy of Spider-Man to kick off the upload so I could snag my save for the remaster.) That's really problematic and obnoxious for players who have likely gotten rid of their older software.
That means it's now been over an entire generation wherein Sony never thought they should figure out how to properly utilize its cloud saves, which exist for exactly this type of reason.
It's simply a bad look.
FFS. This save transfer works exactly the same way it did for Spider-Man, and nobody seemed to complain about that. It's dead simple, takes no time, and is totally a non-issue.
People just complaining for the sake of complaining 🙄
I own a PS5 and had no issues transferring saves for Spider-Man, Crash 4, or Avengers. Sure the process could be more streamlined but hey at least the end result is better gameplay with an existing save. Can't beat that!
It's definitely an issue being made bigger than it is. Xbox may have automatic save transfers and Game Pass but PlayStation will always have great exclusives. That's why I'll always choose PlayStation over Xbox, no matter how radically "anti-consumer" analysts and news outlets make Sony out to be.
Well, this is Twitter we're talking about... not exactly known for its intelligent, rational userbase.
Yes, I'm on Twitter... but nowhere near as much as I used to be, for this very reason.
Ummmm nah, once they release a decent slim version the console will be in a much better position.
@Meka590 right, because Sony isn't doing a lot of anticonsumer practices recently, sure..... I guess if you wanted to be nice you could say their apathy towards their customers is really showing, especially in supporting their long time customers. Whether you realize it or not.
@MFTWrecks it's called not caring about the end user experience. Granted it is a common problem with the industry on the whole, which is why it baffles me that so many people don't realize how little the industry really cares about the user experience and will defend this company or that company to death. They don't care about you.
@munstre LOL, right, Sony couldn't ever possibly do something to make sure their software actually works properly because of money. What an utterly daft excuse. Unbelievable.
Oh, and WHAT exclusives? Two worth mentioning. Wow. I'm impressed so much by that. It explains everything.
@Milktastrophe there's incentive to play both versions why exactly?
@SidNightwalker To get the trophies from both. When the same game is on PS4 and PS5, both consoles always have different trophy lists due to the changes in the trophy system on PS5.
Many devs actually have a bad system in place that implies it's best to play the PS4 version instead of the PS5 version. That way you can transfer your save from PS4 to PS5 to autopop all the trophies without having to play the game a second time. Those games tend not to allow transferring save from PS5 to PS4 to autopop the trophies, so it's best to play the inferior version of the game in order to double up on the trophies easier.
Yeah. Still love my PS5 more than anything on the XSX. My Xbox One is basically a media player I'm our guest room. No reason to buy an XSS/XSX.
Most of time was downloading an updates [30 minutes] when I opened it the first time.
I unlocked automatically unlocked trophies and second platinum for the game [and deleted it].
It was not Turok: Evolution bad, but it was not something I would want to play again.
Having Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered and Spider-Man Miles Morales >>>>> anything on the Xbox.
Borderlands 3 game save transfer was broken at launch - you could only transfer one character at a time (in a game where most long-time players have at least four characters), and transferring a second character overwrote the first you'd transferred. Oops. Took two weeks to fix, which at launch, felt like forever.
This is related to how Sony handles saves - and the fact that they won't let one game see another game's saves, and that the PS4 version of a game is a different game than the PS5 version of the same game - thus, they can't see each other's saves. THERE ARE GOOD REASONS FOR THIS, that protect against hacking and cheating - but there are painful implications, such as the PS4-to-PS5 hoops we have to jump through. Once for each game...unless it's multiple times for each game, like Borderlands 3.
Yes, the XBox does this better, at least mostly. But the devs don't help when they don't get the directions clear at the beginning - or worse, when the tech isn't even ready, yet. I hear their pain, that Microsoft just does this for them while Sony doesn't - but still, it's the developer's job to troubleshoot this before they release it, isn't it? C'mon, man!
@JJ2 when you hit the ps button on the remote, you have to scroll down to the home icon, push left to get to the power icon, select it, then push up to get to rest mode or power off. Too many buttons in my opinion.
@Hopewell
Yea I get what you're saying. To be fair I got my ps5 at launch and got used to it now so I don't even think about it. When I moved from the ps4 it did feel a bit counter intuitive just like to close a game. I got used to it and I just don't see what's wrong with it now.
To be fair again the ps4 was not that simple to switch off at launch and got the ps button shortcut in a later update.
All I'm saying is , it's hardly an issue worth pointing out is it? Sounds a bit like when PushSquare posted an article to complain that you can't see the clock for 3 seconds when you turn on the console and the controller battery indicator shows up.
Heck all this is not even worth all the words I typed right now haha
@Paranoimia
I like twitter for keeping up with the news. You need to follow the right gaming news and gaming personalities who don't fill your timeline with too personal stuff. I totally avoid interacting with anyone in twitter and even carefull to like or retweet. People cry about anything and even for you not following them and that sort of weird stuff. And I don't want people to follow me. I guess that makes me the weirdo haha
Its awful jungle to interact with but great to follow news passively because you can see different point of views very quickly and help figure out the facts from the misleading.
@Meka590 It becomes problematic if you owned physical copies, which you may have leant out or sold outright.
Sony has had cloud save support for over a generation. Why aren't they able to be imported directly into new ports of titles? Why do users need to have old software available, which needs an update, then a separate manual upload, to then pull down a save on new hardware and software?
Why does PS+ have cloud saves if cloud saves can't be used for this scenario?
Wait don't you need to own and have the PS4 game installed to upgrade to PS5? Sounds like some are trying to upgrade a game they no longer have!
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