Capcom has shed more light on the performance options that Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition will boast on PS5. As previously reported, you can have the game focus on frame rate or resolution, but Capcom has clarified that ray tracing also plays a major role in how the title runs.
The bottom line is that Special Edition will have at least four different performance modes. They are as follows:
- 4K, 30fps, ray tracing ON
- 1080p, 60fps, ray tracing ON
- 4K, 60fps, ray tracing OFF
- Up to 120fps, ray tracing OFF (no resolution specified)
Sounds good, doesn't it? These settings should have everyone covered, and as we always say, more options are always a good thing. Which mode will you be using? Would you sacrifice frame rate for ray tracing? Be the storm that is approaching in the comments section below.
That’s the level of choice I really would like from most PS5 games. Not everyone needs or wants certain features depending on their setup so might as well let them choose.
I would choose 1080p 60fps with ray tracing on. This would be my ideal choice for every game.
I don't trust anyone who makes the conscious decision to play DmC at 30 FPS, regardless of how good it looks
This should be a standard for all games on next-gen. No excuses.
great to see so many options. but what about checker board rendering 4k/60 (native 1440p) with ray tracing? will there be checker board rendering on ps5 like there was on the ps4 pro? seems like a great compromise for resolution/fidelity/framerate.
It's nice to have plenty of options.
The 120fps and (assumed) dynamic resolution is an interesting one for the people with a display that supports it.
Options between resolution and performance preferences needs to become standard across the board whether you're a first or third party developer and regardless of platform. Really happy to see Demon's Souls, Miles Morales and this follow suit
Very nice. Let people pick what is most important like on PC.
@Agramonte Ironic considering DMC5 SE isn't coming to PC at all
yes I'm still salty about that
Just turn the res to 4k ray tracing for photo mode and exploring. 120fps mode for actually playing. Love that games are giving you a choice just for that reason. Remember PC can barely do 4k60 with true 4k ray tracing but then again AMD Big Navi to be shown very soon.
@Yaycandy Considering Big Navi is around the corner and RTX 30 series just launched they should be more than capable of actually running a stable 60 with ray tracing enabled
Right now I have a 2060 though so I'm expecting that to last me a while regardless since I don't really care about ray tracing, especially for the games I play
1080p/60 fps with ray-tracing almost sells me on this considering ray-tracing won't be coming to the PC version. I'll wait for a sale though.
Perfect. Options should be standard from this gen.
This is getting ridiculous, if a last gen game can't even handle the next gen benchmark what does that mean for actual next-gen games? 4K/60FPS/with full dedicated ray tracing should be standard this gen for ALL games, anything less in any category is an embarrassment.
@TheFrenchiestFry Most people still try cite the 2080TI for their "PC can ONLY do X" claims. And when you show them 3080/3090 benchmarks it's just goalposts getting moved with "lol who has those cards!"
I share the same sentiments as everyone here, this absolutely needs to be the standard. We don't have to argue about which fps is best or which resolution should be the standard, pick what you want and what you prioritize. Excellent job from Capcom 👌
I hope most games have all these options. It's great. Of course there will always be some whiners though.
@JJ2 I'm seeing so many comments like this and it makes me so sad for the future of gaming. We shouldn't need options, the game should run at 4K/60fps/full ray tracing no problem. If they want to give options it should be whether or not it's 8K/60fps or 4K/120fps, anything less is insane.
Great to have options if we can't have it all. =)
I do concern about the fact that launch titles and "remasters" can't run 4K, 60FPS with ray-tracing, though. If launch games can't hit it, what to expect from way more demanding games further in the generation?
@710king And what if a game struggles to hold 60FPS with Ray Tracing on? Isn't it better that people have the option of changing that to make their experience better?
@AdamNovice "And what if a game struggles to hold 60FPS with Ray Tracing on? " I would hope the hardware wouldn't be that weak as that would completely negate the reason for having a "next-gen". If that is actually the case then all parties involved have failed. People shouldn't need the "options" in the first place.
@God_of_Nowt I'm fine with options as long as they are reasonable, like 8K/60fps vs 4K/120fps. No game in 2020 on "next gen" hardware should be doing 1080p or 30fps. If this is the case of a lazy developer, Microsoft and Sony should have set a baseline demand.
@710King neither the PS5 nor the series x will run very many games at 4K/60 with ray tracing. It’s just not gonna happen on these machines. There are PC’s out there that cost a hell of a lot more that can’t do full ray tracing at 4K/60. People’s expectations are far to high at the minute.
Yea ray tracing is a really cool feature but its very heavy on the gpu. Maybe by the end of the next gen console lifespan , pc will be able to run it as a standard on all 4k games at more affordable costs. I dont see it working anytime soon on native 8k haha, but thats just how tech goes.
Thats what i kinda mean, you go all out on Big Navi it will last a while and should do alot better than the 3090. Man i remember when geforce was the best. I bought a 9800 GTX in i dont know somewhere around 2008. AMD cheated by skipping a gen but it really helped them in the long run
Nice. It's not as customizable as what you might get on PC, but I'm going to be far more inclined to actually buy one of these devices if they include performance modes for those of us who don't really care about upgrading to 4K.
@710King Your expectations are unrealistic given the price of these devices. Hell, I'd say they're unrealistic for anything other than high-end enthusiast-build PCs. Which you'll obviously not be building for anywhere close to $500.
@710King 8K 60 FPS reasonable you are out of touch mate. 😆 👍
All those people with 8K screens thats what you want too put your money on. Not everyone has a 4K screen yet.
@Weebleman My thoughts exactly.
According to Digital Foundry, a game like Control with High RT manages 70fps at 1440p on Nvidia's 3080 card. So 4K probably drops below the 60fps mark on such a card (DF didn't do 4K resolution in their 3000 series analysis).
The base 2080 - which is more in-line with the Series X - is 35fps at 1440p with High RT enabled.
Some people just don't understand how expensive RT is to render.
Heck even native 4K can cripple a GPU, which is why reconstruction techniques (Checkerboarding, DLSS, etc.) and variable rate shading are so important to reaching the comparable image quality in 4K at smooth framerates.
I wanna play this game while it's running at its best (console wise) since I already enjoyed it so much back when it launched, but Therein lies my problem. I'd need to buy it again, which is just unfortunate.
@GamingFan4Lyf Exactly. People honestly believe these consoles are going to pull off miracles and it just isnt gonna happen. For the money they cost people are getting some serious bang for their buck but there will be compromises, which is in no way a bad thing.
Its the same with the whole 12 Tflops argument. It genuinely will make very little difference but people just see the numbers that companies shout about repeatedly. Microsoft being the main culprit with the whole 'up to 8k, 120fps, ray tracing!' promos. People ignore the 'up to' bit and just assume every game will have all 3. It aint gonna happen. To even expect 8k/60 and 4k/120 is just silly.
@Porco my guess is 4k60 is the checkerboard option
@710King your lack of hardware knowledge and graphics rendering is embarrassing please stop wasting time spreading nonsense
Big Navi sounds like a rapper from Hackney. That’s all I have to add to the discussion.
@Ralizah I'd gladly pay $2000+ for a PS5 or XSX if they actually offered a next gen experience. Settling for mediocrity is ridiculous.
@Flaming_Kaiser I do, just bought a new one a few weeks ago for this new gen and I'm already seeing half-assed crap like this. Last gen was 1080p, this gen should 4K.
@2cents I build computer systems and networks for a living and my clients would strongly disagree.
@God_of_Nowt Coronavirus impacted business for all of them a bit this year and I have been very busy with a lot of work from home issues but they are all actually making more money now than they were pre-covid. Not too sure why, all have far more demand now.
@graysoncharles I know the PS5 will not be capable of this for most games. I did not say anywhere that I actually thought 4K/60fps/full ray tracing WOULD be the next-gen standard, I said it SHOULD be. Don't know where you people pulled that from. I don't care about the price, just give me a huge jump otherwise it is another halfstep.
@710King Not really, 1080p and 60fps is good enough.
Nice. With how this is going, I might just not get a 4k tv and use 60FPS with ray tracing in games instead.
@graysoncharles I think a lot more people would pay that price than you realize. Most people drop $1000+ a year on new phones and spend lots of money on other electronics and devices. Paying $2000 for something you'll use for nearly a decade is a low price by modern standards. $500 is the cost of an iPad you buy your 8 year old.
@God_of_Nowt Everything is moving far too slowly for me unfortunately. It's a pain, I'm not getting any younger.
@710King You and a few hundred thousand other people might, but home consoles are mass-marketed products that sell by the tens of millions. There HAS to be a sufficient level of demand for them, and we know from experience that consoles don't sell very well once they become sufficiently expensive.
Just build a PC. Once the next-gen nvidia cards come back into stock, you can pick up an RTX 3080 for... $800, I believe. It's insanely powerful. 29.7 teraflops of performance. Combine that with a $550-ish Ryzen 9 5900X, spend a few hundred more dollars on components like a decent PSU, motherboard, RAM, SSD, etc. and you'll have a vastly more powerful system than either of the two home consoles that has BC going back generations, totally uncensored games, full mod support, multiple store fronts, and, far and away, the largest and most diverse library of any platform on the planet currently. And you'll be able to gradually upgrade your components over time instead of having to wait years for the next generation of hardware to release.
Excellent set of options for a game which would absolutely benefit from more frames.
Capcom generally do good stuff and treat customers well. They’ve had some hiccups with SFV but for the most part they provide free updates, game modes, and support their games for a while after release.
I will look forward to playing some of the more recent RE titles boosted on PS5. RE7 already looks gorgeous.
@God_of_Nowt it’s been obvious from the start that the graphical leaps will be less bold than, say the difference between PS2 and 3. But we are getting faster load times, options for ray tracing and better frames. I’m happy with this.
I have a Sony 4K TV which I’m very happy with. 8K is kind of pointless at this time. I doubt many people could tell the difference between 4K and 8k anyway.
@Ralizah I do the majority of single player gaming on a pc already but I am building a new rig soon with probably a pair of 3080's or 3090's depending on a few things.
@graysoncharles I am conceding that these companies are much more obliged to put out cheaper hardware to get more people on their subscriptions which is where the vast majority of their revenue comes from. The Xbox head recently said he expects the Series S to outsell the X and I thought that was nuts but you and he are right in that it would be the best way to make the most money in the long run.
This is more like it, 1080p & 60 fps with RT mode for me 😃
@God_of_Nowt The two cards aren't entirely for gaming, I do lots of rendering as well.
@graysoncharles If its a €1000 a pop i dont think a lot of people buy a new phone every year. I even think its ridiculous too buy a new high end phone every year.
@2cents might be, but i assumed it was native 4k. considering this is a current gen game with a few new bells and whistles, i would be a bit surprised if it can't handle native 4k/60 with ray tracing off.
' it should be whether or not it's 8K/60fps or 4K/120fps, anything less is insane.'
That smoke may work on xbox. Their marketing is about 'Dream' after all. 😃
I'll stay in the real insane world 🤷♂️
(it's a joke)
@graysoncharles Same here or a good a more expensive one that i use for some longer time 2 years plus.
I wish i could tell myself im worth a €1000 plus phone. I dont even game on the damn thing not even the simple games.
The only problem is im a big Sony fan i love their phones thats my biggest issue because they are expensive. But i love that they are somewhat different then all the others and high quality but thats my personal idea.
I have the Xperia 10 plus now for a while and i want too upgrade because i dropped my phone in the water still works who knows how.
For me its ridiculous that we get rid of phones so easy for a new one but then again i spend way too much on games. We all have our quirks i guess.
These are good options.. 1080p is still used by many people, as not everyone has a 4K tv.. heck some people will be playing the ps5 on a HD tv as that’s the way goes? So it shouldn’t be just dumped like that! We should all have options like this as not everybody will be able to have a fancy 4K tv lol! But that 1080p, 60fps, ray tracing ON
4K, and 60fps, ray tracing OFF does sound good! I’ll be playing on a 4K tv myself but not everybody has one.
@Porco checkerboard rendering was a feature of the PS4 hardware so whilst we'll see image reconstruction, my guess will be different techniques. As for this game, it uses the RE engine which already has image reconstruction built into it and is possibly already using it to get to 1080p 60fps with RT on
Great to have the option, looking forward to trying them out and seeing the differences! Eventually anyway, it's probably one of those games where I'll be waiting for a discount though.
Well, unless new games engines prove otherwise, it seems the PS5 may be incapable of 4K 60 with ray tracing, so in that case we should have 1440p checker boarding to 4K 60 with ray tracing.
@710King "I think a lot more people would pay that price than you realize. Most people drop $1000+ a year on new phones and spend lots of money on other electronics and devices. Paying $2000 for something you'll use for nearly a decade is a low price by modern standards. $500 is the cost of an iPad you buy your 8 year old."
I feel like you are overestimating how many people would be wiling to pay that price. Heck, me personally, I am not comfortable buying either the Series X or PS5 (Disc variant of course) for their current prices (£449 each for both in the UK I believe). Spending £1200 for a next gen console I feel would put me off the console entirely. Even at the end of the generation, I would have doubts of it being cheap enough for me to be interested. Not to mention, even if I could stomach the console price, if I wanted 8k, I would have to buy the TV to support it, and I only upgraded to a 4K TV myself 2 years ago. To heck trying to find the money to upgrade to 8K.
Yes, you will get some people interested, but nowhere near enough who will be willing to pay the high-entry fee to justify either Sony or Microsoft making such an expensive console.
Can we please stop feeding the 710 trolls that seemed to have morphed into one unrealistic self served person? Never have I read such garbage.
You REALLY seem to overestimate how powerful hardware currently is. 99 percent of PC's today couldn't run 4K/60 with full ray tracing on modern game releases. At least not without a very inconsistent performance.
Its irritating buying a game on steam then having to dumb down all the graphical settings to run it. This consoles not even out yet and I'm worried I'm gonna have this issue going forward on PS5 and the new xbox
N.i.c.e. definitely playing with ray tracing on.4k sound good to me.the game already looks amazing on ps4.word up son
I hope every game lets me turn off ray tracing for better performance. Or at least have variable res from 1440 if it’s on. RT is just not a good deal for the performance hit required.
In my country the average salary is 300 Euro's so many will not buy a new console, let alone one over 1000 Euro.
So the new console by me offer the best bang for the buck.
The new option for resolution are nice still why not 1440 listed here.
I would like this option for Nioh 2.
4K 60 for me as ray tracing doesnt do much for me. All it adds is light and shadows with reflections in the water.
@nicugoalkeper so you live in a third world country.. okay..
@BansheeNorn that is like saying that you live in your home and the rest does not matter. Btw. is a EU country, not that it is of any importance, and we have the fastes internet conection in Europe, and maybe the most cheap (poor but fast). Still alot of people need to stop thinking that they are the most important and others are just the rest.
Sony and MS need's adoption so they are not thinking like you that is why they compromise price vs performance.
4k at 30 frames...i can barely notice the difference between 30 and 60 anyway, maybe 120 will get to me, who knows
all this talk of 8k is just cringeworthy...neither system will be able to run it playable so why even bring it up...4k 30 or 60 fps with ray tracing will be the standard and that's just fine, I'll take a better looking 30 fps maxed setting game over a lower resolution 60 fps any day of the week but that's just me
@710King The whole world doesn't revolve around you. Accept that.
@uncmoose187 i think the new consoles will do 8k but only games la Rayman.
😶- I think once the systems and devs get better game engines to work with, and more middleware becomes available, as well as the compression tech getting tightened and refined further in this new gen, we'll see better resolutions with higher frame rate increases with ray tracing turned on.(Full 4k-60fps-RT)
But if not... there's always a possibility of a PS5 Pro or Xbox-(insert name) in 3 or 4 years being able to hit those higher marks consistently...lol.
I'm conflicted between 4K 60 fps or 1080p, 60fps, with ray tracing on...
I'll probably try the ray tracing version first to see what the big deal is all about, and go from there.
@nicugoalkeper sorry mate but how you described it is how every american thinks they are better than the rest of the world. Sony japan makes ps5 and microsoft USA makes xbox and windows pc. But was does EU UK make? Fish and chips.
The 4k 30fps actually looks surprisingly smooth. If anyone has a tv with Video Game specific motion smoothing, it looks like it is playing in 60fps
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