Neil Druckmann Explains The Last of Us 2 Deleted Scene at the Farm

My favourite game this generation but they didn't seem to quite know how to get to the ending that they wanted. I do wonder if it would have been better to do this and then have her turn down Tommy's request to chase Abby again, then leave Abby when she contacts the Fireflies

@AJDarkstar #releasethesnydercut

@carlos82
I disagree. I felt like the ending was exactly what the story needed. It very clearly conveyed the feelings of Ellie and it brought it all back to the initial relationship that Joel and Ellie had.

Director's cut would be a nice free update. It would give me a reason to go back on ps5 after getting the platinum last week.

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Neil Druckmann also mentioned that Ellie was originally supposed to kill Abby at the end in the game informer interview. As much as I love the game, I would have preferred them to have Ellie go all the way into the darkness. It would have really gone through with the revenge theme and made the player face up to "well, this is what you wanted wasn't it?". Still, it's amazing the sequel turned out as well as it did.

@KeanuReaves It was more the bit inbetween the farm and the beach that I'm referring to, it felt a little tacked on

Nah, I think that ending would be boaring.

I don't know...it makes sense that they cut it. If they were to have kept it in, then the game would have felt like it were just dragging its heels in the final act. What they had at the farm was just enough. Anything more, I would have been annoyed by it. Like a film that just doesn't want to end.

@Old-Red Yeah it would have at least made some point to the stupid story.. but the team seemed utterly obsessed with making Joel and Ellie suffer endlessly in the game. It’s a crap pointless story and Druckman should be ashamed of it. Killing Abby would be retribution.

@S1ayeR74 you did have some form of retribution on abby. You killed nora, mel , manny etc......and also ex partner owen.

This bit was in Ellie's diary book. The boar sounded like Joel's screams. I thought the PTSD scene in the barn was really well done.

@S1ayeR74 Seems like you missed the point of the story

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/06/24/storylines-characters-levels-cut-last-us-part-ii/

A few more cut scenes here. Seeing Ellie on the island would have been cool, but i can understand how it wouldn't have made much sense narratively.

Definitely should have kept in the opportunity to explore Jackson in more detail though. That felt under utilised. It would have been great to see a flashback and experience Ellie trying to fit in, and seeing how people are adapting to their new way of life (and how they deal with those that won't)

@S1ayeR74 That's not quite what I meant haha.

@DavLFC I mean....if im abby i don't have many tears for mel after her behaviour in the aquarium. She literally wanted abby to stay in seattle where she is wanted by both WLF and Scars, rather than let her escape with her and Owen.

I feel sorry for the innocent baby though!!

I'd totally play a farming sim with Ellie on her farm, but only if you swap Dina and JJ (such a creepy baby, especially in the model viewer before you unlock him and he's just lurking in shadow 😖) for Lev and Yara.

@Medic_Alert Many scenes would work (and will likely) resurface in the TV show i'd have thought

@thefirst Same. I did it only because I had to... or turn the game off. There were a few parts like that.

I actually wanted Abby to kill Ellie. I didn't particularly like older Ellie, she acted like a nasty selfish b**ch in her lust for revenge. She's awesome in her younger flashback scenes, though.

This is actually a cool scenes that reveals why she can not let go of the revenge, she have to do it or the memories will haunt her forever, at that point it's a life not worth living. ND shouldn't cut this.

Also I have no problems if the last part of the game is a full tlou 3 game plot, let end tlou 2 on farm and make the last part a full blown sequel.

@ApostateMage
I know what you are saying, but I felt frustration at Ellie's inability to move on rather feeling angry with her...... I don't think I could have coped with either Ellie or Abby being killed 😂

A few weeks on from completing the game I feel happy with the ending, I feel like I did eventually, at the end of it all, see Ellie make peace with her demons and start her recovery.

@Athrum I got the point of the story just fine and like your post, it failed absolutely miserably in its goal and what it was trying to achieve.

@DavLFC Maybe but they were all unforgettable characters. You only remember Abby because your forced to play through the majority of the game as her.

One of the games big problems was poor pacing so yeah i'm glad this was cut, really everything from the Farm on wards was poorly done pacing and gameplay wise and it was very much a case of not knowing when to end.

Man this game is tedious. I knew I'd hate the story, but didn't expect it to be so damn dull to play through. Really not understanding the praise it's received.

Actually scratch that last part. I know exactly why it's received so much praise. Pandering

@rockman29 You're not in the minority. Majority existing outside Metacritic's fake USER reviews loved the story. It ended perfectly than the first one, Part I felt incomplete with so many questions. Part II answers all questions and wraps it up fine.

@WallyWest I felt it became a bit fractured towards the end too.

@ApostateMage Lol actually I didn't really like little disrespectful Ellie in Part I. I mean David just wanted to be friends...lol. In Part II she's more matured, respectful and likable.

@LN78 I don't see how Part II answering those dangling questions is a bad thing. Part I's story was perfect till that abysmal ending, evidently Part II was inbound. But y'know... opinions.

@thefirst Or Both Abby And Eille Die On That Beach Eille From Her Wounds And Abby From Drowning Leaving Lev As The Sole Person Alive.

@AJDarkstar Not interested in tlou2, but playable deleted scenes should be more common in games, I realise it's probably more work than needed, but that could be cool.

@ApostateMage Well the was Neil's intention when he wrote the characters. Ellie and Joel are basically Stalin & Hitler and Abby is Captain America.

I would have been happier if this entire game was just about Abby and the other two wouldn't even appear in the game. If you were going to write Ellie and Joel so terribly and make them the scum of the earth they should have just stayed in part 1 and let Part 2 be just Abby's story.

Sooo many poor choices storywise, why does hulk let Ellie live not once but twice when its clear she'll come looking for revenge. Why does Ellie let hulk live at the end after giving up everything and searching for ages just to kill her. Why do they throw in a trans kid for no reason. How did hulk get that size living on rations. Played well enough and the graphics were great but for me the story ended with part 1 and Joel will always be the hero of this story for me

I still think a better ending should have been this: have the island invasion happen at the end. Ellie overwhelms abby at the theater and abby escapes. Then you play as ellie hunting abby while the island scar invasion takes place. Ellie kills abby. Scar kid follows them to the farm and kills someone close to ellie. Ellie realizes what revenge leads to. Kills the kid and decides to finally live in peace albeit with PTSD and knowing she has to deal with her demons.

@carlos82 I loved it too. Was so refreshing to play an adult game with great themes.
I thought it was going to end the 2nd time with Ellie rescuing Abby, then deciding to sacrifice her body to Abby & the fireflies for research.
There seem to be a lot of butt hurt, immature people who just can't handle character evolution & adult themes. I'm just happy we got something this amazing. I'm struggling to find any current movies of this sort of quality to watch

@thefirst that's a great idea! I was trying not to kill you knowwho during the fight & died because of that.
Would also be interesting to match the results of those ending choices to peoples reviews (and maybe emotional intelligence).
I'd suspect the ones that chose to kill would be the one's slamming the game.
While I thought the very ending could have been more powerful - as a whole I loved the journey & the fact that a game could make me feel certain ways about the characters - whether good or bad.

@AJDarkstar I agree

@S1ayeR74 totally agree

@DavLFC technically speaking ellie only killed 4 of abby friends while tommy only killed many among countless others. So over all as a player I would say all those guys were executed

@ApostateMage you must totally be outta your dam mind to say something like that!! So I take it for example somebody kills one of ur loved ones in cold blood in a horrific brutal torture way, you wouldnt be like Ellie? Hmm

@thefirst At this point, do you seriously think you need to write "youknowwho" as if people everywhere haven't heard the name "Abby" by now and know exactly who she is??

@thefirst I think you have emotional intelligence confused with maturity - none of which I stated that I have. I do appreciate the old dig with sarcasm though & glad I could make you laugh.

@Rob_230 yeah point taken about. Mel but you cant tell me Owen's death didnt devastate abby....afterall she let's him "trap 2" her in the game minus vaseline dirty cow
hahahaha.

@Old-Red I agree, whilst I love the game I didn't think the ending landed that well, the ending seemed a bit drawn out where as in the first one I thought the ending was perfect (hence why we didn't need a sequel). Had an absolute blast playing through though and didn't mind playing as Abbey, I quite liked her story elements building up to the meeting in the Aquarium.

This cut scene would've proved to be a tad too much, glad they cut it.

Ah Part II, even now the haters can discuss nothing else!

It's a great game, brilliant story and characters and the ending is wonderful and entirely fitting.

10/10

Suck it!

😜

Game needed about another 5 hours cut from it.

But this story stayed in the game! Not like a playable scene but the exact story is in Ellie's diary!

@ApostateMage I totally agree with you on that.

@rockman29 I agree, I couldn't ask for more. Loved the final sequence and would have never wanted Abby to die.

First is first - I waited so long for this game to come out that it almost made me put the controller down when I learned I would be the one to kill the character I grew to love (Joel). I understand the game was about revenge but playing Abby made me hate her even more. She was a stupid little girl going on a revenge filled adventure towards a man who was only protecting someone he cared for. The doctor (Abby's father) should have just given Joel Ellie he even said himself he couldn't go through with the surgery if it was his own daughter. I would have liked to see more of the story. Was a little confused during Ellie's hunting scene the boar would have given the scene a little more clarity.

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L of course, burritos that famous muscle building super food...🤦‍♂️ there was nothing plausible about a woman being that size and my only problem with the trans kid was that she was shoehorned in there, not sure how many didnt notice when it was the whole reason around one of the biggest set pieces in the game?? Shame you seem to be one of the outrage crowd instead of using common sense

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L A hatred of the 'powerful' woman we're talking about sure but have no idea were your getting the rest from?? Sounds very much like it's you jumping on the bandwagon of screaming bigot when people question the poorly implemented story choices of an otherwise decent game... good man 🤨