UK Sales Charts: The Last of Us 2 Is Sony's Fastest Selling PS4 Game Ever in the UK

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PS4 going out in first party-fueled style, boy.
Can't wait to see the ramp up for Ghost of Tsushima now.

That's nuts, especially selling 40% more than Animal Crossing.

Fully deserved, just got past Ellie's Day 3 and it's a masterpiece. Some scenes don't make sense and the dialogue can be mixed but overall the game is oozing with perfection.

the more good news about this game,the better.
it may be divise but it does not deserve the vile comments it and it's devs get.

anyway seems like ps4 goes out with a bang (not that there was any doubt considering the scope of it's last 2 major exclusives.)

So much for “go woke, go broke” 😂😂😂

Well deserved from what I've played so far 12 and a half hours in and just outside the hospital, I've noticed a lot of positive comments towards the game in the ads on Facebook from those who are playing it.

I'd be playing it now if I didn't have to get up at 5 for work tomorrow!

That's impressive, considering all the negative press it got.

Keep it up, metacritic users. You're definitely fighting the good fight. Don't let anything slow you down. Make some extra accounts to make sure you bring the score down even further.

That will show Sony.

Starting off with my comments have nothing to do with anyone's opinion (good or bad) about the game and am speaking on about the business side.

Clearly Sony's goal was to get the hype out as much as possible and convince those that might buy it to get it at launch. I think their marketing team did a phenomenal job getting the hype back up for this game in such a short period of time.

I am interested to see what their strategy moving forward is. I would assume they would keep advertisement up for another week and dump it off in preparation for Ghost. I bet they weighed the negativity from the leaks and decided it would be best to move their second AAA as soon as possible in case this one became divisive. I'm excited to see what the sales numbers will be next week. If it's still extremely high do they continue the campaign or do they move it over for Ghost? Not sure how it will be affected if this game has long legs.

@nessisonett The people who say "go woke, go broke" sure like to pick and choose. Facts don't matter. Only the ones that confirm their bias.

Well that's certainly impressive, but that's what I expected. Seems the review bombing didn't deter anyone from buying the game, which is good. I hope people enjoy it.

Well having played it for about 4 hours, I have to say I’m not overly impressed with it, I’d give it a 6 out of 10, the original game was stunning, but the cliche story used to make a Ellie so angry In this sequel is annoying, as is the endless deep dark violence in the cut scenes.. several incredibly talented people have left a Naughty Dog and I think it shows in this game. I’ll still play through it to see where it leads to though.

Just reached Day 2... and for anyone who hasn’t played the game yet, trust me you have no idea what this game is offering up so far. Do not listen to these hating didnt even buy the game yet fools review bombing, this game is really something else.

See, you babies review bombing the game and throwing a fit on twitter are really making a difference on the commercial and critical reception of the game, keep at it.

I've purchased my copy digitally, and it's downloading right now...really can't wait to get into the game. I'm really glad, but not surprised, that the game is doing so well. Naughty Dog always delivers.

As someone who had a dad that would always wake me up as a kid and made me steak and eggs to see the shuttle launches. And grew up with everything NASA. There is a section that just blew my mind - and not even a real part of the game.

Playing this game has been Amazing in so many ways. Deserves being a hit.

i bought a preorder bonus copy blu-ray but i didn't see any codes to redeem in the box..anyone know how this works? i haven't played the game yet...

Figured it would do well here, the game does look remarkable. I do want to play it, just not at the moment.

@zebric21 Here in the US (from amazon) I got a code card in the box (for the special edition stuff).

And the pre-order bonus as an Email from Amazon the day it shipped.

And to think, if not for the boycott they could have sold like, ten extra copies.

@Enuo comment of the day!

@Deadlyblack I really thought no game would beat AC this year!

i'm also wondering if the game can also boost hardware sales..

Have played 15:30 hours and now near the end of Day 2 Seattle. Great game! Don't understand these haters. Bought digital. Managed to avoid spoiler and can't wait to finish this.

I'm 15 hours into it now and must be into the 2nd half what critics were forbidden from talking about. Yeah its fantastic, gameplay is better then ever with that feeling of improvising all the time being incredible and i'm loving the story and themes being told, the new characters like the Abby, Owen and the lovely Dina are also great as well. Visually only Red Dead 2 compares and it may even beat that.

@Agramonte oh man, that part blew my mind also, so amazing!

Wait I thought the bigots cancelled this game why it still selling well lol. I guess most of us gamers don’t really care about the sexual orientation of the characters we playing in a video game now a day as long as the game is good. Im glad the game selling really well i didn’t want the bigots on Twitter to win.

@RedShirtRod I’m in this camp too. I don’t typically watch the charts, but have noticed the single player games drop out quicker and the longstanding GTA/COD/FIFA show up again. I’m curious to see the numbers for this over the next few weeks. No doubt well deserved, but how many people still wanting it that haven’t gotten it?

Add the digital sales and I think it'd break more records. I'm playing it slow and not rushing it at all, you need to take your sweet time with masterpieces, they don't come around often.

I get a kick out of the "get woke go broke" crowd. They scream so loudly from the roof top. Every since those leaks they screamed "agenda!!sjw!!!". All while spoiling the game and saying they don't like it and telling you that you shouldn't like it. Dedicating subreddit, youtube and 4chan threads to organize an review bombed people seen coming a mile away. What did it accomplish? Nothing other than making sure Naughty Dog ignores you even more now. Sad part is that theirs legitimate complaints that are made but they end up getting drowned out for the most part because of the nonsense.

@Deadlyblack It's sold amazingly and I love it so far but Nintendo barely exist in the UK, to be honest.

@Agramonte Just saw that part too. Absolutely brilliant scene.

Animal Crossing isn't a game, it's a list of chores😆
I've been enjoying TLOU2, had me right sucked in over the weekend. The pace is quite slow after the 1st major plot point though, still waiting on the 2nd big moment to come (15 hours in) But the anticipation of that has been keeping me going.

That's impressive, congrats to ND 😃

I'm surprised it didn't sell a lot better compared to animal crossing considering the PS4 console base being about double the Switch

From someone who bought this game physical and avoided the spoilers, I can praise everything about this game EXCEPT the story. It held no weight for me and I couldn't get invested in anything they were trying to tell me. Its writing just seemed to lead nowhere, except to the credits with not a lot to show for it.
Friendly discussion , I'd invite anyone here who considers this a "masterpiece 10/10" game to tell me what did it for them.

@Matroska Huh, I thought Nintendo had more of a presence over in the UK.

Well deserved! I am only around half way I think and just...WOW. This is something else. The quality is on a level never reached before. It is going to blow our minds what ND will do with PS5

Great to hear its selling so well, given all the drama leading up to its release. I bought the digital, I have a feeling a large chunk is digital, so I wonder how much its actually sold.

Game is brilliant as well, gameplay is much better than the original. The story is a little pretentious, and dialogue feels weaker then Part 1, but I'll see how it all wraps up before I judge the story fully.

@Arugula That's a good quote, for sure. I wish that I could love this game. I really do. Sadly, I found myself just wanting it to be over. It was pretty to look at with some great moments spliced through. The game played REALLY well for me, but it didn't take me with it like the first one did. Thanks !

Around 20hrs in....feel as though I need to complete it now but was done around 8hrs ago. This is a slog. Graphics are top notch, animations are fantastic, encounters can be tense but the pacing is so slow at many points, far too much filler, the script is terrible in comparison to the first with the only good interactions being with Joel and Ellie in flashbacks (the birthday flashback is such a good indication of what this game could have been). The gameplay gets stale very quickly, I am now sick of seeing the same animation for choking out enemies, the AI can be ok however time and time again an enemy was staring straight at me and the vision meter was filling and I literally ducked down and he lost me. It's totally dumb. Also the sound design of enemies dying had me in tears with laughter, it really is ridiculous at times. Story wise it is pretty standard but when thinking again of it against the first game it is lame in comparison and I have managed to avoid spoilers but I feel it is going two ways either Ellie gets her revenge, which is a standard ending or as Druckman indicated the story was about the pointlessness of revenge, then both of them decide to walk away, which if I have endured what I have for both of them to say....ah never mind let's call it quits, I will be super peeved. I do believe though what this game has done is reaffirm that the professional reviewers are all just trying to stay on the good side because no way is this a 10/10 perfect game. Any other title on the front of this and it would be languishing around the mid point. For me at the moment I would say it's around a 5 or 6/10 purely for pacing and sheer repetition of gameplay. Let's hope it improves but as I am now Abby I think not, definitely the most disappointing game of the generation.

@Jimmy_G_Buckets I'll never understand insulting people just because they didn't like the leaks. I don't mind it, game is pretty great, but no need to attack people for their opinion.

@thefirst That's how I treat it as well. I don't like it, but I won't stop others from liking it. That being said, I wouldn't give this game a 10/10 across the board. I didn't go in asking to be "woke", as it were. Still, I'd hate to alter your experience by saying anymore than I have. Glad to hear you're enjoying it, all the same.

Fastest selling doesn't mean much if the game ends up hurting Sony's reputation and killing naughty dogs.

I knew about some of the leaks and I didn't like what I heard but I bought it anyways and I'm about half way through and I really don't like it. The writing is just... Bad. The gameplay is a 6/10 at best.

It was story that made this series great and this story is horrible and feels forced. It's hard to even describe without spoilers.

Suffice to say I'll never buy one of their games again and its not because Ellie is gay or anything like that. It's because the studio has lost its way and without Amy hennig it's also lost its writing talent. Druckman is... Horrible.

So yay for sales... I'll never fall for it again and it's also going to have the side effect of making me not buy Sony games immediately like I always have. I have every sony exclusive since the ps2 and they were all day 1 buys... But never again.

@Arugula Yeah, the gameplay and exploration are great but the story and characters are weak so far. I still don't know anything about Dina other than that she's gay and Jewish, and they're groups that she identifies as not specific personality things. But yeah, the gameplay is much improved - though sometimes I still feel that trying to hit some enemies is like trying to knock a wasp out of the air by flicking a pea at it.

This is the result of hype, marketing and fake 'professional' reviews calling it a masterpiece. See how much it's sold in six months and then see whether it's still a big success story. In my GAME so far we've had 80%+ of our copies that we sold returned.

@EddieGreenheart. Joel made the last of us legendary.he is the reason why the last of us was amazing.the first last of us is easily top 5 games ever made.word up son

@d0x360 👻 ghost of tshushima looks amazing.that is my most hyped games for 2 years.but if you dont like where the story went.i can definitely understand your disappointment.word up son

@EddieGreenheart you just want attention buddy

@TheDude89 Someone salty? Also its best you don't make up rubbish about it being returned because we all know you're just making it up to try and discredit the game and you look like a fool doing that, you saying that has as much credibility as me saying my Game has ran out of stock because the game is selling so well.

@d0x360 The gameplay is 6/10? Yet you love the first game right? You haven't played it then because the gameplay is more or less the same but better, expanded and improved, if you think the gameplay is 6/10 then you must feel the same about the first game as well.

@DonJorginho You pointed out clear issues with the game, but it's still "perfect"?

@Ethoadz I said overall the game is oozing with perfection.

That means whilst there are some flaws, the majority of the game is perfect, as it is, it's an amazing game in so many ways and in certain areas is the greatest game of all time.

Areas such as stealth gameplay are the best I've seen and outdo the highs I'd thought I'd never see topped from MGS V.

@d0x360 I'm not the biggest fan of Neil Druckmann but we gotta remember he wrote the first game and Uncharted 4 which was imo the best of the series.

And 6/10 gameplay? You must be playing on very light as I'm on Hard and it's been the best stealth gameplay I've experienced, the dynamic combat feels life-like and truly dynamic in how situations can shift and warp into drastically different affairs from where you first started in a level.

@Onion_Knight I just wanna discuss this videogame, that's all.

@EddieGreenheart for me it so far has succeeded in making me want revenge. The brutality of the world is exactly what I'd consider a planet killing event to be like. I'm 13h13 min in and just got out of the hospital.

@TheDude89 sure you have little buddy sure you have

@EddieGreenheart sorry then, just dont know whos a troll anymore right now. If you dont like the game thats completely okay, not everyone has the same taste. As for me i really am enjoying the game. The deep story telling, the characters, the gameplay, and not to mention the graphics and high level of detail. This game looks and feels next gen and is pushing my ps4 pro to its limits. Gonna be interesting to see it run on ps5. I have not beat the game yet, but i would say im about half way through. So far its GOTY, unless Ghost of Thusima or Cyberpunk change my mind, but so far 100% GOTY.

@TheInfiniteYip Nice to hear you can get immersed in the world like that. Really hope you enjoy the rest.

@Onion_Knight Yeah, there are a lot of poorly formed opinions flying around. It's been tough to hear the other side of things elsewhere. Thanks for responding and I hope you enjoy the game all the way through.

@Octane the only negative press was from people who haven't played it and reviewed it the first hour because the game is "woke"

@TheInfiniteYip I think they've stated years ago that the theme about part 2 was hate. So I think such a theme is to be expected，or as it should be. What's the point of making a new game if all they did was to have the same combination every time？Even smash bros changes over time.

@EddieGreenheart for me it's like a 7.5 or 8 because the story wasn't great but the fantastic combat, gameplay and graphics made up for a lot of it. To me the story felt more raw than the last one making the story less fun and more depressing. I liked that but I do see why some people would rate the story bad for that reason.

@Turismo4GT right I can’t believe we just got the masterpiece tlou part 2 and now we get another great looking game next month in ghosts it’s crazy. I got the collectors edition for both and yeah ghosts isn’t here yet but I don’t think I’m going to regret it.

@MightyDemon82 yeah same here the game def isn’t divisive or anything it’s just the very loud minority with their organized hate campaign gets the most attention. Tons of my irl friends are loving it and on my psn friend list tons of people are playing it and I’ve talked to a few who are utterly engrossed by it and think it’s easily the best game this year and of this gen.

@Pikki I easily see it crossing 20 million like part one did

@Arugula man I respect you being honest but nothing emotional I just cannot agree with that like at all. I would call the story dense not overworked and I don’t think any other game I’ve ever played since I started gaming in the 90’s comes close to what this games story achieved. Part one was my previous favorite game of all time but honestly it’s story was simple and carried by its exceptional acting and the relationship between not only Ellie and Joel but the other characters you met on the journey. Part 2 is my new favorite game and is better than part one in every way especially it’s story which is just something you don’t see in gaming often if ever especially from a triple aaa studio.

@S1ayeR74 lol you have only played four hours you haven’t experienced anything not to mention it seems like you have gone into the game with preconceived bias that you’re wanting to be justified. Those four hours you played would in no way warrant a 6 and the story is anything but cliched Jesus you supposedly love the original calling it brilliant when it’s story was cliche as can be and that’s coming from someone who had it has their favorite game ever made until part 2.

@thefirst not exactly the same but you can go to the accessibility options and turn on the slo mo toggle that you activate by swiping the touchpad in fights

@Matroska that is absolutely not true with the switch like at all

@Rhaoulos you tried to downplay but it failed lol

@d0x360 you do know Druckmann wrote tlou part one and uncharted 4 right and the writing is bad lol please explain how since you seem to know good writing from bad I’ll be waiting not to mention saying the gameplay is a 6 when it’s being compared to MGS V which many consider the pinnacle of third person stealth action like gtho. It’s got a 95 metascore and 96 opencritic score,it’s about to become the fastest selling ps exclusive of all time and is going to clean up the goty awards but you’re right it’s going to ruin Sony and ND reputation lol. You went in with preconceived bias and you’re trying to justify that if you even truly bought the game

@AdamNovice you probably wanted a Hollywood cliche “everyone lives that I like and are happy” game and that is not what this game is and thank god for that.

@TheDude89 please grow up and quit making crap up it’s pathetic. You didn’t like game boo freaking hoo quit being childish about it.

@Kdog I think only a portion of those reviews were that. Unless you can tell me where this supposidly organised movement is.
I have heard from honest sources that the storytelling is actually not very good at all (check belular on youtube).

So, one is to think: Is one side exagerating or the other? Maybe it's both.

End of the day the only shameful thing are sites such as this trying to stir the pot for clicks (wich i'm likely removing from my favorites after this sad display) and making a big deal about there being diferent opinions about a game. What a shocker!

No one said the game wasn't gonna sell well haha ...the attention it's getting people will want to review it and make videos on it because humans love attention. The link there says 2.6 mill got a trophy devide that by 2 because people game share .there is over 100million monthly users so that only 2%of users .just because it got bought doesnt mean people like it haha.enjoy a world were men can dominate womens sports and use there bathrooms hahahaha vice versa for the bathroom thing with women Haha

Plus it is easy for some rich dude to buy a heap of copies hahaha

Fully deserved, the game is superb and should be played by all

@avenovah read my comment 😂😂

This game was always going to sell well

Its Naughty Dog's next offering that will determine whether people have lost faith in them.

Game is fun to play but the story leaves a lot to be desired

I don't believe any game that has taken years in development for the duration of time it has taken to produce, deserves to receive the unjust criticism such as TLOU2 has unfairly received.

Personally, I appreciate how crushingly difficult it is to develop a title especially as bold as this one. All of the game developers that worked on this, deserve positive recognition for all of there efforts.

@CallMeSnake so what your saying is every game that has been worked on for years hasta be appreciated that's bs. Its the last jedi part 2 .plus there trying to bully the people that hate it into liking it .they deserve everything .coming from a guy who waited on kh3 .one of the best series ever haha

"....and we don't want to know any of your opinions as to why it's bad".

It's selling so fast because we all hate it 😂

Well deserved, this is one of those rare games which is keeping me up playing all night. I'm about 10 hours in so far and have really enjoyed this and these days I often get impatient when things get in the way of the gameplay but here I've enjoyed the downtime as much if not more than the action itself. A great game so far and one of the best I've played this generation

@SlimDrizzyLamar I've seen so many who said they watched a stream and for this type of game thats good enough. Its nonsense, watching or being told about something is a very different experience to actually interacting or playing a game, hence why we all do this in the first place. Resident Evil 2 for example was nerve wracking when Mr X showed up and I realised he could chase me through doors, even when I was safe I can hear him stomping about, yet if I watch that on YouTube I have no emotion whatsoever.

I honestly find it sad some of these comments are just blind defense for Naughty Dog and TLOU2. Then again this is a site for Playstation news so not that surprising.

@carlos82 I wasn't being precise. Not everyone game shares .state the obvious .just most people do because there sound old chaps .research it and find out yourself haha like I stated before this game relies on the story so people who watched it can judge and they seen the gameplay and graphics .everyone is complaing about the story .yes there is reviews from people who havent played or watched the story but people seen the story before it came out that's why they reviewed the story .plus sony had like 10000 good reviews before the game was released on psn and no game is a 100 out of 100 no way it's better than gta5 withcer 3 im not arsed writing a list why dont ye state these facts yer side does the same but worse .some of the good reviews havent even watched or played it either they even say it .I'd give this game like 6 .the gameplay isn't much different from the last one the story completely destroyed it

I’m currently on Day 2 and Loving the game so far. 👍 My other PSN friends who are playing it love it too. 😍
I can’t wait to see what happens next, it’s like watching a great episodic series.
Haven’t had a feeling of not wanting the game to end for a long time👍
Funny thing is that I’m watching Walking dead at the same time so I’m knee deep in survival horror on & off the PlayStation 😳

@SlimDrizzyLamar looking at the trophy numbers, those who have beaten the game are tiny but we have so many reviews online and mainly negative ones even from launch day. If someone genuinely doesn't like it then fair enough but the majority of negative reviews just talk about sjw, woke, something about gender or weirdly The Last Jedi. Its pretty obvious and sad that most of these people have never played it or had no intention of playing the game and this happens too often with certain big releases. I just hope people who do want to play aren't put off by it

How have people finished it so fast? I got the game on Friday morning and I've only just started day 2. I do explore a lot though, Dina must be like, "again Ellie, we've searched this corner about three times now?!"

@harchibald I'm not as far as you but I think the game's great as well. One thing I will say though is that ammo is a lot harder to find than I thought it would be. Maybe it was the same in the first game but I can't remember it that well.

Interesting that you can adjust the frequency of ammo and scrap that is out there in the world or adjust enemy AI amongst other features. I'm tempted to make some tweaks as I'm okay with the combat but it seems after every encounter I'm out of everything and there's still a lot of Seattle left to explore!

On TWD, didn't a certain scene early on in Part II remind you of something from the show? Ah TWD, it used to be really good once but now both Reedus and Dean Morgan are completely wasted in it and there's hardly anybody else to give a fig about. It's a shame.

@Nepp67 Maybe people genuinely don't care about the negativity and simply love the game. ND aren't the devil mate, they make really good games but they're not for everyone. Why can't you just accept that?

Did you read my comments .I didnt comment for you but I'll reply haha I'm done then. I stated that if ya like the game fare fs .when has the whole world completely like one thing.there is always two sides .I just know them from there uncharted series which are very good games cleared them all .they dont own the rights to crash and wont be involved with the new one thank god .because I wont be buying from them again .peace haha

@Thislad absolutely anyone reviewing it and giving it perfect scores without playing is also an idiot but I can't deny that a lot of the negative reviews are motivated by a hatred towards a particular community, rather than the game itself. We also need to get away from this nonsense that watching and playing a game are somehow the same. People will have vastly different emotional reactions between the two, the human brain behaves differently between watching and physically engaging with something even if that is just pressing buttons on a controller. So anyone who has reviewed based upon watching it, their opinion is immediately invalid.

Personally I haven't finished it and not everyone likes the same things, you gave it a 6 and that's fair enough. For me it'd be higher so far but on the other hand I don't hold the likes of GTAV in such high regard

@Nepp67 Not as sad as people writing reviews or talking about the game without even having played it.

@ApostateMage same, I've literally just started day 2 after about 10 hours of play as I've just been staring at everything and poking around everywhere, I think I even spent about 5 minutes just looking at the rain 😂. Yet apparently I've still managed to miss 6 or so of the hero cards and quite a few of artefacts.

Funniest thing to me about all this is the people saying that critics were paid off to give it a good score, but all these YouTubers know that posting a negative video of the game are going to get hundreds of thousands of views and will make a lot of money from it. Hypocrites everywhere.

@dark_knightmare2 No my expectations were for a game to be of the same level as the original, I think that’s only fair enough. Instead we have a lazily written cliche storyline that relies heavily on deep violence to carry it, that shows a lack of talent and innovation and thinking which I would say is a direct result of all those people who have left Naughty Dog since the first game. And several hours is enough to base an opinion on a game, I’m now on day 2 in Seattle and my opinion is still the same. Not my problem if your incapable of accepting others opinions.

@Thislad Yeap, the fans like those in here point blank refuse to accept others opinions, and instead attack you! Pathetic, I agree with you although I found Uncharted 4 to be poor as well, not as good as the others but I loved The Lost Legacy, maybe because they changed the main characters in the game? Buts it’s no secret a lot of talented people have left Naughty Dog, some over complaints of their treatment at the company, and I think that loss of some talent is beginning to show. In my opinion. I wouldn’t be so quick to buy one of there games in the future.

@Arugula lol I kinda am not. They didn't even show proper gameplay and I don't get excited for cg trailers

Damn, looks like we can't discuss anything Part II related on here without the threat of ***** being spoiled. Really really sad.

Who are the real villains here? Naughty Dog or all the bitter and twisted trolls?

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Herd mentality. Someone says it's good, everyone has to agree.

I'm not saying it's a terrible game, because clearly it's not, But it's not the greatest game ever made, it's ridden the hype train well and truly to maximum potential, and people have been riding that train all the way to the bank, good on 'em, they've got that down to a tee.

Objectively speaking, this game is a 7 out of 10. 8 if you're feeling overly generous.

Equally, these idiots over at metacritic giving it a 0/10 need a short, swift slap round the head.

Ok, i may not be able or qualified to give a proper opinion due to my limited play time (at the school about 5 hours in).

So far i dont really get the hate? Yea the story is clearly going in a different direction to what we may have anticipated, but what is there so far has been perfectly fine. There has been nothing on the scale of the opening to the first game imo, but i am enjoying(?) what i have seen.

The gameplay is great. The same enjoyable battle techniques being employed as the first game - with the same ai issues and all - number of times dina just stood there whilst an infected came at me from behind. Argghh.

I loved the early seattle section, travelling building to building to find little secrets and equipment. Including THAT ring in the bank vault.

And i have enjoyed the journey to get there. The game is a technological marvel. I am also enjoying abusing the photo mode.

So i dont get the hate so far you know? I have a long way to go, but it appears to be another quality first party Sony exclusive. Is it the best? Probably not. But TLoU was never my favourite series. Horizon and GoW, possibly Spiderman, will likely have this beat this gen alone.

My concern with all this hate is that game companies - not just naughty dog - wont take risks anymore. The next time you complain about a lack of originality or bravery on the games business, expect to be pointed in the direction of this game and the vile discourse surrounding it as a reason we are getting generic action game 200.

I just dont understand the viewpoint of people shouting that they dont like something, therefore i wont either. And their argument is often, i havent played the game but here are a bunch of spoilers i read/watched on the internet. My view? Make up your own mind. If you want to spoil the game for yourself then fine. But dont spoil it for others. You dont want to spend 50 quid on the game? Fine, but dont tell others that have decided they do want to play the game that they have wasted their money. Dont like the direction of the game? Fine, but keep your debate and discussions civil without resorting to abusing those who are enjoying the game or those that developed it.

Overall gaming community. Please stop being so bloody toxic. I have really questioned in engaging in any gaming discussions and communities over the weekend because of how people are carrying on. Threatening druckman, threatening the cast (particularly laura bailey) is unacceptable. Its like a pathetic return to the mid 90's all over again. Grow the f up.

Congratulations to Naughty Dog on the success of the game. Can't wait to see what you do next - particularly as i'd expect that it will be a brand new IP.

@mogwaiking Dude, get a life.

Your comments are not some sort of holy grail that all of the world needs to see. If indeed your comments have been removed, it's likely for good reason.

Trying to shame the editors of the site isn't going to score you any browny points, furthermore it just makes you look like an upset crybaby, who is demanding that their commentary be reinstated on site because the entitlement for your voice to be heard somehow overshadows site rulings.

@Rob_230 I always say photo modes are pointless but I've probably taken 50 plus pictures using it so far in this game. As for Dina, she has this annoying habit of pushing me out of cover on occasion at the worst possible moment.

That early Seattle section was brilliant and the bank vault with movie reference (not the only one I've seen so far), loved how the map worked there too

@Grindagger "Objectively speaking, this game is a 7 out of 10. 8 if you're feeling overly generous."

Sure. You're speaking objectively, but others aren't.

Comedy gold right here.

@Col_McCafferty soz human haha first time using push square today haha only created this account to say this because i got banned.its suck recently binged watched death note but read what happens at the end by searching the show it was in its headline its sucks ha .peace ha .I didnt know no spoilers here . I know the names a troll but wont be using this account haha a.k.a this lad ✌✌

@naruball And 10/10 is objective? Flawless? No, it's not, whether you agree with that or not is irrelevant. Not everyone agrees, and the game is flawed. These are the facts. No game ever, can be a 10/10. To give a 10/10 is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. It's blatant fanboying, without objective reasoning.

Less sheeping, more reasoning.

@carlos82 yeah, the map was cool and really creative! I agre on photo mode too. I use it infrequently (although took ALOT of screenshots on ff7 remake!). Although when used well (like in spiderman) it can be quite compulsive.

Yep, Dina has done that to me too. Its super annoying. At least in the last of us 1 when ellie decided to go for a stroll in front of a clicker the ai was just glitching so the enemies didnt register her presence. It just spoiled the immersion. But when you have spent ages lining up a target in the second and dina does something dumb to spoil your build up? Omg lol, i have used some choice words

To be honest, I am NOT surprised, this game is AMAZING! To bad Xbots/PC Masterbates trying to destroy it on Metacritic didn't pan out for em. Never mind eh? Enjoy everyone.

@Col_McCafferty
Thanks for the reply my friend.
I’m playing on moderate and I have to much ammo and resources👍
Tell you what I will sling a few shot gun cartridges your way 😉
Personally I can’t wait for the Hard trophy “grounded” to be available.
I tend to need a nudge these days, me being a trophy whore. Also I think that’s were the true survival horror experience begins and where The last of us excels 😉

@Grindagger "And 10/10 is objective? Flawless? No, it's not, whether you agree with that or not is irrelevant. Not everyone agrees, and the game is flawed. These are the facts. No game ever, can be a 10/10. To give a 10/10 is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. It's blatant fanboying, without objective reasoning."

Nice strawman.

"Less sheeping, more reasoning"

The irony is strong with this one.

@naruball Please explain to me how this is a strawman? I'm literally just speaking facts.

Objectively, no game is ever a 10/10, it's impossible, because there is always some flawed aspect of a game which has been noticed by people playing it. This is only natural, because (A) No game can appeal to everyone - Hence why when reviewing a game, you should remain objective, and accountable for ALL viewpoints, whether you agree with them or not, and give your views without prejudice. (B) All games made include errors, bugs, faux-pas, poor design decisions, limited scope, lazy scriptwriting etc.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but TLOU 2 is not an exception, or an exemption from the rule no matter how badly you wish it to be. Simply writing retorts to my commentary with the equivalence of what could be summed up as "lol", or literal textbook definition auto-responses straight out of the "How to own people on forums with a simple one liner" book, does not really build a strong case for your argument.

@KratosMD I don't agree.

Just because a system has a score up to 10, does not mean anything has to be scored thusly.

The 10 is simply there to denote a perfect score. There are many things in life that need to be scored, and all of them have perfect scores ratings in some shape or form. Some can be reached, some can't, but the one thing that unites the scoring systems, is that the top number represents a perfect.

It just so happens that the medium of video games is objectively difficult to hit a 10, because of the nuance involved. I see no reason why games cannot be scored as 8 or 9 and still be recognized as exceptional.

Indeed there are already many games that have reached over a 9. Now, getting over a 9 is exceptional. A 10 however means there is no room for any errors, or problems, it is completely void of anything that could be considered a negative aspect. It's meant to be unreachable, but the closer you get to it, the closer you are to perfection, even when it's unreachable.

When using a straight 10 as a benchmark of "Well it's nearly perfect", well then why is it a 10? If it's not perfect, then what if they were to improve on it, is it going to be a 10.1 out of 10?

The whole idea is absurd in my opinion, and completely illogical.

@AdamNovice you finish the game already.i can understand if you feel like that.the first last of us was legendary because of joel.that games is so good.but why you feel sad on part 2.word up son

@TheDude89 where is your GAME store and how get numbers? Just curious.

@Grindagger to me a 10/10 in a review means the reviewer believed the game achieved everything it set out to be and they don't think any changes need to be made to expand the experience.

I understand your point of view from a more scientific standpoint but media reviews are largely subjective so I don't hold them to same standard as let's say a mechanical product.

@Grindagger No you're not speaking facts. Where did I say that a 10/10 for TLoU2 is objective? Nowhere.

I specifically disagreed with the notion that "Objectively speaking, this game is a 7 out of 10". There is no correct score "objectively speaking" since it's all subjective. I don't know if I would personally give it a 1/10 or a 10/10 because I haven't played it. But if when I do, I will not consider my opinion as objective and everyone else's as "not objective".

Simple concept that I'm sure you can understand.

"Sorry to burst your bubble,"

And then you continue on making more assumptions. You either need to work on your reading comprehension or take a break from the internet.

@TheDude89 "In my GAME so far we've had 80%+ of our copies that we sold returned"

And in my GAME so far every person who bought a copy, came back the next day and bought 5 more because they liked it so much.

There you go. Anecdotal evidence.

@naruball Nah.

You're just upset because I have an opinion. It's ok, welcome to the internet.

Oh, and for the record, since you're apparently having to give me reading comprehension lessons, and yet you couldn't conclude that me talking about objective scoring was MY opinion.

The fact part is that people don't give objective opinions, hardly any do, and that upsets me, because I think we'd have a much better view of scored games if we did. People rate more with their hearts than they do their heads. It's a fact of life, but not going to stop me voicing my disdain regarding the matter.

@Kdog Yeah, I can see that too. People are happy with Ellie's journey and where it takes her. As for me, I tried to put myself there but found it very difficult. Aside from how I felt about the writing, everything technical about this game is fantastic too and hats off to all the performers. Thanks for the feedback 🍻

@Kasabian I mean, your comment makes the most sense out of what I've read in regards to scoring reviews for video games.

However, interpretative scoring isn't really something I'm an advocate of, because it just sullies the waters.

If you're going to interpret scores, kind of defeats the purpose of having them to begin with.

Mechanical scoring is the only true, tried, and tested way of scoring something definitively, that works, providing an objective score, even when you're giving a subjective narrative to support it.

This is a problem a lot of other people don't get, because they're maybe too short sighted, or just don't care.

The best reviewers of video games that I've read will attempt to incorporate their own idealistic views of the game, but also other peoples, because it provides a more well rounded, and accurate scoring of what the actual game is, rather than a biased view.

Basically, people scoring it a 10 are just as bad as people scoring it a 0.

No one cares about metacritic user scores. Calm down. Most of the people don’t even know it exists!

@harchibald I'm not great at shooting in most games but ironically really bad at it in Naughty Dog games!

I still like them though, just trying to us as much stealth as possible although i always seem to need to completely clear an area of enemies before being able to proceed any further.

If it gets too hard I think I may have to increase the level of ammo/resources that can be found. At present everything is set on Moderate.

@Neolit What happened?

I finished it yesterday afternoon and I gotta say I loved everything about it. I liked the slow pace of it being able to explore as much as you can. The graphics are absolutely stunning but my only downside was the ending I don’t quite know what to make of it atm. I’m about to start another run through of it

I actually think being spoiled was a good thing. I'm really enjoying the game so far and playing on survival mode is incredibly tense and the combat is so brutal.

The story hasn't been nearly as bad as the leaks implied, so I think going in with low expectations in that regard have left me feeling much better about the whole thing. It's a great game, not on par with games like breath of the wild or divinity original sin 2 as a perfect 10, but it's a solid 8.5 if not 9 depending on reflection and replay.

@Neolit Holy F, your comments are being removed. @Pushsquare negative comments are allowed i hope? Or does this need to be an echochamber of opinions?

really think push square should be locking all articles from posting as they are being high jacked by angry and nasty individuals even if they have nothing to do with this game.

@antdickens Thanks for responding! That makes sense [posting spoilers = deleted comment].

@Thislad
I cannot understand which language that are responding in?

Can you be more clearer and concise within your response, thanks.

@suikoden I think the amount of clicks = $. Also some stories always create this type of engagement. Do you want every article to be locked from the start?

How many of those people are happy with their purchase after beating it? How many returns? The negativity online is not just trolls, bigots, and bots, there is real disappointment that you seem to want to just sweep away.

Great, loving it so far

@Sanquine

i would usual say yes but this last week we have seen the worst the internet has to offer with lot of new accounts just to troll and insult

look at the article on balders gate 3 it was highjacked and is gone now

@antdickens

true, changed post

@Grindagger by definition it cannot be objective, but by all means you do you.

"You're just upset..."

For a person who claims that he likes facts, you sure love to make assumptions.

@suikoden Yeah, i get what you mean... I also was a negative cry baby at first (did not like what i have heard of the story). I hope things calm down after this.

I will buy the game eventually --> i hope this month i have enough cash (birthday )

@naruball Please try to read what I've put when responding to a comment I've made.

A simple mechanical score of a game can be objective because it can be provided in a format of a general consensus as opposed to a personal view only, and therefore unbiased. The review itself is what is the subjective part, but it shouldn't affect the scoring. You're conflating the two.

@Nah900 People are entitled to think the game is a 10/10. It's their viewpoint, I just don't agree with it as a point of principal due to the fact that 95% of all reviews are given from a perspective of the individual writing it only.

When reading a good review, the person writing and relaying the information to their readers should try to incorporate all viewpoints, so as to ensure the readers are aware, and informed about every aspect of the game. The score most importantly should attempt to be levelled by an appropriate amount of objectivity, brought forward by looking at the game from several different angles, and not just their own.

If this is all done well, you'll end up with a well balanced, well described, and informative review. It's the up to the readers to make of it what they will, and what side of the multi-faceted coin they fall on, in regards to opinion.

@AdamNovice i understand playa.you are one of the real ones on pushsquare.thats a fact respect.i hope you enjoy 👻 ghost of tshushima more.thats my most hyped games for 2 years now.word up son

Whoever talked about the cultured vultures review, I thank you for bringing it to light. For me it really encapsulates the way I feel about the game. It's a good game but not a great game for me if i take out the story part of things. Very great game in terms of graphics and the gameplay is fun for awhile until it gets repetitive. Love the easter eggs though.

Sadly the purpose of me playing the game in the first place was the story. I would have thought the game would be one that continues addressing the ambiguous ending of the first one, but for me at least, it goes on a whole different tangent. Then the longer I went playing the more I kind of didn't want to play the game because I had seen the spoilers but wanted to experience it myself. The amount of killing you do to dogs and humans alike just really gets to the point where you can't be asked anymore to care and just continue doing it so you can reach the end. Oh what an end it was.

I had to turn of my PS4 and go outside to gaze at the stars, pondering the meaning of my life and why I do the things I do after playing this game. Ultimately the game is the same score for me as it was for you @Grindagger. They can all say its 10/10 but to me 10/10 means that a game would literally have to be a game where it had so little in problems, that even the problems weren't problems. Even RDR2, as fantastic as it was isn't even a 10, and its the closest I would ever rate a game to a 10 (it's like a 9.4 for me)

@Nah900 "As far as @naruball goes I think it’s safe to say that he/she never really brings anything useful here to the comment section. Just likes to scold people for having a different opinion."

Another assumption. Gotta love omniscient internet people

As a game reviewer you can't review a game 10/10 because that would mean that there is barely anyone (at least to me) that would find much fault in this game. To review a game you would have to see why it would be liked and why it wouldn't, and make a decision. A game like this where you have many hating on it (exempting those who just complain about SJWs and LGBTQ+ issues without actually giving examples of where those problems arise, and the actual bigots) because of bad storytelling makes it seem to me that most reviewers were biased.

@LazyButTalented. I 100 agree with you.word ☝ up son

Is it true JB Hi-Fi are refusing any more returns of the game due to being inundated by them?

https://www.sausageroll.com.au/entertainment/games/jb-hi-fi-not-accepting-any-more-the-last-of-us-part-ii-trade-ins/

Will be picking this up next week on pay day but seriously mega peeved that youtube spoiled a certain death, i only went on YouTube for music but it was in my recommendations and has ruined my hype

.. this is my dilemma - same with "Ghost of T" - play it now or wait for the inevitable "enhanced for PS5" version... currently I'm waiting, as there's no clarification on whether or not existing games will be updated for free, or if we'll be fleeced for an enhanced PS5 version... :/

I'd rather have some big AAAs with the new console as opposed to the 2-3 average launch games...

@playstation1995 thanks for the support brother, much love.

Nothing about the masses of people trying to return it and being refused? Interesting that

@Deadlyblack Crazy figures. But I suspect that it'll slow down within 3-5weeks. Meanwhile AC will be selling at a steady pace for up to a year if not more.

@ShogunRok "Please be respectful to each other and please stay on topic."

Says the man who subtitled his article:
"40 per cent higher than Animal Crossing"

How is that even remotely on topic? 🤣

If you're gonna chum the waters you can't act surprised when the sharks show up.

loving it so far great game & as hard as one part was early on I want to play Naughty Dogs story not what I think it should be so I respect it.

the way some gamers have acted around this game has been embarrassing I only hope they are all very very young.

@rjejr I actually didn't write that tagline.

And if it is considered bait, then I'd seriously rethink your priorities!

@Kafkaesque
Equally as interesting as you failing to mention it's only at a JB Hi-fi and is an isolated case (Edit: Also, there's no confirmation that it's just TLoU2, as the sign says "games" and other than hearsay from people saying it's only on that shelf, zero confirmation from the store). Many stores refuse to accept trade ins of games if they have too many, FIFA games and other sports titles, for example. But that's not relevant to your crusade is it? Do you have nothing better to do than follow this game around and moan about it? Just go enjoy the games you do like.

EDIT: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/pages/games-trade-in-disclaimers

Oh look, it's all games.

@ShogunRok "And if it is considered bait,"

Well my apologies to you then, you certainly can't be faulted for what you didn't write. But we've both been on this site long enough, me longer then you but you work here so you have priority, that we both know if this was an article about TLOU2 w/o that tagline, and it didn't sell as well as ACNH, and somebody came in here to say '"LOU2 didn't sell that great, ACNH sold more" you personally would be the first person in here telling them to stay on topic. Would have been Tasuki years ago but he doesn't seem to work here anymore. You guys at PS have always hated when any other console or game on another console was mentioned. So yeah, that subtitle is bait for a website that frowns upon other games, consoles or companies being mentioned on your website.

Or more accurately, you shoot down anybody saying things that put PS or Sony in a bad light, you're probably ok w/ it as long as your side is winning. Can you honestly say the subtitle would have been "40% Less Than ACNH" if ACNH had sold more? Of course not, that's a rhetorical question.

Please don't make me search through my 15,000+ comments looking for a PS employee saying "stay on topic" when somebody mentions Nintendo b/c we both know I'll find it eventually.

@rjejr "It managed to sell 40 per cent more copies than Nintendo Switch juggernaut Animal Crossing: New Horizons, which held the record up until this point."

They aren't throwing shade, or ridiculing Nintendo, they're just pointing out that AC was the previous record holder. It's to give context to how successful this is. I don't think they meant any malice.

@LuckSource oozing with perfection means in many ways the game is perfect.

As aside from story every other element is perfect.

@rjejr

Wow just wow you are everything that's wrong with people today jumping to knee-jerk reactions , it was a statement of fact saying animal crossing was the biggest selling before this.

I do think that this game is slightly overrated and it's not a ten for me. But the article was not saying anything against Nintendo or the brilliant animal crossing.

As someone with no interest in TLOU2 so is looking in from the outside, the fanboys & the haters are just as bad as each other judging from this comment section. Heaven forbid someone has a different opinion of a game.

It deserves good sales, the game is brilliant. I can understand not liking it because of the change in tone from the first game and with the narrative being far more bleak, however people seem to have other reasons for hating the game and just hide behind "it's poor writing" but when you dig deep enough the source of hate usually comes down to a certain event that happens, the character Abby or "nooo lesbians are in my game" or "how is it possible for a woman to be so jacked in the apocalypse?" as if they suddenly care about realism and not that a woman's bigger than they are.

That's not to say that there aren't people who have legit criticisms but it's starting to become hard to tell the difference and the legit criticism gets buried underneath all the vomit people are spewing.

@Grindagger Should we not trust 5 star restaurants either because there is no such thing as perfect? They can only be 4/5? This seems silly.

Rating something a 10 does not mean flawless, it means highly recommended or it's an unparalleled experience within its genre. Just because you seem to view it incorrectly doesn't mean that a 10/10 score shouldn't be achievable.

@Cloud3947 FYI those scores are rounded up, so they're not technically 5 star at all, because nothing is perfect.

Anyone who defends the position that a maximum score out of maximum is somehow a valuable distinction is not something I'm going to agree with, because there is literally nothing perfect and everything can be improved upon. Giving something a maximum score means it cant be improved on, which is... well complete and total bs.

@Ejadaddy If it does, it does. Nothing wrong with that.

@Grindagger I understand your point, however your interpretation of what a 10 means isn't a fact. A 10 score doesn't mean perfection, just an outstanding achievement and highly recommended as something that is unparalleled within its genre or medium, not saying that last of us 2 is a 10/10, that's more up to the individual since its all subjective especially where story is concerned.

@Cloud39472 it's a fact that 10/10 denotes a perfect score. If it's not perfect it's not a 10 is it? How could you possibly argue to the contrary? There is no 11 out of a possible 10, therefore it is perfect, without question after process of simple elimination.

You can interpret 10/10 to mean something else if you so wish, but it is just that, your interpretation.

@Cloud39472 I believe a 10/10 can mean whatever it wants when a user wants to review it because it is a complete opinion, and if someone wants to say it's a perfect game, they are free to. That being said, I feel if your a person creating a review for a game (i.e IGN) a 10/10 should basically mean that a game is basically without error and that all can enjoy. Your reviewing the game as a way to inform the masses of a game before they buy it, giving the good and the bad about the game, without bias. If you rate a game 10/10, to me it basically dictates that basically everyone is able to find enjoyment in this game (at least players who like the type of genre the game is) and will like it. The 10/10 score doesn't leave room for error as a 9/10 does.
A 9/10 means that the game is a fantastic one but has some problems that can detour or ruin the experience for some. In a sense a 9/10 is flexible because to some it could be a 10 while for some it could be a 8/10 or less. An example being final fantasy 7 remake where the gameplay story and everything is superb, but fans of the original game may find issues with some of the parts of the story or not like the gameplay, preferring that ofthe original.

Any game that is a 5/10 or below is generally going to be a pretty poor game hence why most of the time something in the range of 7-9/10 in review scores is where people are looking at. If you suddenly label a game as 10 in automatically will make many assume that that is a really fantastic game which excels in all areas with barely any mistakes or problems and barely any user can find fault with this, and that just isn't possible. Again this is my own opinion and i mean this mostly about reviewers like IGN (sorry if this isn't making much sense, i'm ok with trying to better explain it if you want me to).

@LuckSource I know all experiences are different but "beyond Bethesda levels of bugginess"...??? That's got to be hyperbolic, I haven't experienced any of what you just mentioned, I think you might be the first person I've seen to mention bugs at all.

You sure you're not playing fallout 76 by mistake?

@thefirst Used to be like that in the metal gear series too, always used to piss me off, it's like they all have telepathy.

@S1ayeR74 dude your opinion is your opinion I accept it while also thinking it’s crap. The story according to you is lazy cliche crap which is not true in even the slightest sense with the themes it tackle being themes a triple aaa dev as rarely if ever tackled while you glossed over the part of my previous comment about how cliche the story of part one was which is indisputable and is the reason you didn’t bring it up because it was once again carried by its phenomenal voice acting and characters. You’re in day 2 which btw isn’t even halfway through the game and hasnt even hit the heavy and frankly amazing and ballsy storytelling yet so actually finish the game before criticizing the story.

@Crimson_Ridley don’t even waste your time we know what he was trying to do hell someone on resetera posted the exact same thing and got shut down by people lol. It’s sad that this game is exposing a lot of low key bigots even here and it’s people I would never have expected to be like that.

@dark_knightmare2 As I said it’s not my problem you don’t like opinions that don’t match yours. And I never said nor think the story in the first game was cliche, and it definitely wasn’t driven by violence.

@dark_knightmare2 It's funny isn't it that people are usually clamoring for story's that take risks but as soon as there is a ballsy story, they say its bad writing just because they're not happy with the way it played out.

This is the exact reason why devs and authors don't take risks with their work, the backlash just isn't worth it and it definitely stifles creativity.

@thefirst there is an option to slow down time when aiming.

Erm who didn't see that coming Of course it would be. No wonder the Haters hacked into ND and try and spoil the game for people so they wouldn't buy it. Well it didn't work

@S1ayeR74 I didn’t say you said the first games story was cliche I said I did and that’s absolute fact and while the main theme was about love it was absolutely driven by violence like are you serious?

@Cloud39472 exactly lol like if a certain someone in the beginning would have got the boot like the trailers implied people would be complaining how it’s cliche,a trope etc you know like people were doing after that one trailer dropped lol but they did something completely unexpected and ballsy yet some people still complain. This story is a perfect companion piece to part one and actually enriches the first game even more and I now see why ND called it part 2 instead of tlou 2 or tlou with a subtitle. It’s funny looking back at comments from trailers and such seeing people saying they expect a cliche story so why bother and yet some people are losing their minds because they didn’t get that cliche,safe Hollywood story with their favorite characters being happy and the ending being happily ever after.

@Logmein did you really just join push square to post a low effort hot take like wow grow up lmao

@LuckSource did you really try to make crap up to try to downplay the gameplay which is some of the best in the tps stealth genre and is being compared to MGS V by critics and gamers alike even ones who weren’t really into the game lol like come on dude be better if you’re going to hate.

@Kafkaesque Apparently loads did the same with RDR2. Their loss. Both games are for grown-ups, maybe that's the problem.

🤔

It's not a crime to not like Part II but if you haven't even played it then I don't think you know what you're talking about. I think it's absolutely amazing and something truly special BUT I'm only Day One in Seattle.

Maybe I'll end up hating the game, not sure but at least my feelings on Part II will be genuine and not related to how it's 'hip' to hate this game often without even playing it.

Naughty Dog will probably make Uncharted 5 after this, it's the obvious that too many people in the so-called gaming community don't appreciate risks and want sequels to be exactly the same.as the original. Hell, why do you think the annual best-sellers are the likes of COD and Fifa?

The response to this game is very sad to see. It makes me.very interested to see what HBO do with the TV show. I'm sure they were looking to film the events of both games but maybe all this controversy may put them off. We shall see.

@Mitsui Kind of disagreed with your own point there:

"nothing is perfect"
"so yes 10/10 is an outstanding achievement."

But if it's not perfect it can't be a 10. And there is room for improvement, so whilst something might be an outstanding achievement it is not a 10/10 as far as video games go.

A video game is not an exam sheet, it cannot be perfect.

@Grindagger Bloody hell mate, let it go.

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

@Col_McCafferty I'm entitled to my views as much as you are.

@Grindagger You sure are but aren't you getting a tad bored though constantly having to repeating yourself?

I think you're a tad naive if you think to obtain a 10/10 means a game has to be 100% perfect. If that's the case no game can ever be judged that way as NO game is perfect.

You disagree, which is fine, but why not leave it there? Go and talk about something you actually do like unless of course there's nothing you actually like and you're just hating for the sake of it.

🤦

@Col_McCafferty Dude. I never said a game had to be perfect.

In fact I said quite the opposite. I simply pointed out that NO game should be given a 10/10 because the very premise of it, is asinine. That's literally it.

This is not a hate issue, it's a FACT issue. How anyone can possibly argue that 10/10 doesn't have to mean perfection is literally impossible for me not to ignore.

For the sake of argument. If i get 9 out of 10 questions right on a test, then I got 90% right, this score is not perfect, as I'd required 10 questions right to achieve a perfect score, however 9 questions out of 10 would still be exemplary. The problem with humans is they have to put 10/10 for things, even when they're not perfect, because their level of gushing love for something supersedes their ability to rationally use our own system as it was intended.

Then again, I do question humanity on these occasions, and maybe should (as you say) just take a step back, not everyone has common sense.

@Grindagger 😢😢😢

You're a truly special rob...human being, we're truly not worthy of your presence.

Consider me told!

@Col_McCafferty It's ok you can call me a robot. It's not the first time I've heard it.

Analytical thinking, not emotional. It's the way I was made. Also, I'm really not trying to denigrate anyone with what I'm saying, if people want to score stuff 10/10, go for it, it's just illogical.

Anyway, i'm peacing out of here, I think I agree with you, I've made my point about as crystal clear as I can, anyone who disagrees with it, is entitled to their views.

@suikoden "it was a statement of fact saying animal crossing was the biggest selling before this."

Only the tagline didn't say that, the article did. The tagline simply says

"40 per cent higher than Animal Crossing"

And if you've been commenting on PS long enough you know PS employees have a history of complaining whenever anybody brings up Nintendo. Can you honestly tell me if TLOU2 had sold 40% less than ACNH that the tagline would have been:

"40 per cent higher lower Animal Crossing"

Shogun didn't write it, that's good enough for me.

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L I think the article did a good job of putting it in context, that ACNH was the previous fastest selling boxed game this year. The tagline could have been simply this line from the article:
"Edging past previous record holder Uncharted 4."

I've seen your name on here a lot over the years, you know how these guys get whenever anybody brings up Nintendo in the comments - when Nintendo is wining of course, Nintendo losing is usually ok - and the way it's written really seemed like they are trying to catch onto the ACNH hype, news, whatever.

Like I said, I liked it in the article, makes perfect sense, but it looks like "fighting words" to me thw way it's written in the tagline. I fthis wer eIGN or Dualshockers or some other multi-company gaming website I probably wouldn't have thought much of it, but I've been told too many times over the years "this is a Sony site" for me not to notice when they mention Nintendo. And it's almost ALWAYS in a bad light. I have noticed them being better about it the last year or so, but there were plenty of years before that. Which is funny since Sammy got his start working at Nintendo Life, he used to write articles there before starting PS. Then the NL guys swallowed him up. But there's still a wall between them. And I still notice whenever they cross it.

@Crimson_Ridley I liked how it was used in the article, spelled out, I just think it was unnecessary to use it in the tagline. As we've all been told over and over again, this is a Sony specific site, we aren't supposed to talk Ntinedo. But every once in awhile, when it suits them, they break that rule.

@Nah900
And that's something I absolutely respect.

Though I personally don't think every plot development "works," overall I still think it's a pretty natural continuation of the story of the first game - and not the "betrayal" that some would suggest. In balance, I don't see any significant difference in quality between the storytelling of the first game and the sequel.

Others are free to disagree.

My only issue is with the people who go around saying silly things like "the story is ObJeCtIvElY aWfUl," as if they're delivering the cold, hard truth to us sheeple. It's like they can't fathom the concept that two people can have honest differences of opinion about a video game (or book or movie or band or...)

@LuckSource you should take your own advice because hating without playing the game is just sad especially on the gameplay which is amazing across the board which there is ample opinion of critics and gamers alike to back up. I play tons of games and tlou part 2 easily has the best gameplay in the tps stealth genre

A. Its the only big game that released this month
B. What about the refund number or the fact that refund has been denger
C. The backlash created more attention from this so people will look at the critic scores
D. Bad user scores and no its not bot since they have solid argument in there, even pewds hated it (hew was supportive of it) and other youtuber that i have seen most hated it