The Last of Us 2 Is the Fastest Selling PS4 Exclusive Ever, Over 4 Million Sold in Three Days

Yes, yes I did. Last game I purchased Day One? Red Dead Redemption 2. Both games are incredible.

Bravo Naughty Dog, bravo.

👍

PS - Less crunch next game please.

I'm predicting over 200 comments for this one. Let the games begin!

Well deserved! It’s an amazing game despite what the whining vocal minority would have you believe.

Well done Sony and Naughty Dog
Thank you for a master piece and hours of gaming entertainment.

I respect the hell out of Naughty Dog for taking a big gamble on the storytelling with Part II, and I'm happy it's translating to strong sales.

@ApostateMage Yep its coming alright. Sigh.

I'm not even going to get into it again, other than to say well done naughty dog. This is a masterful title from a studio at the top of its game. Im loving every second.

Looking forward to what comes next because whatever it ends up being, in 99% sure it will be a totally new ip - which we have missed from ND this gen. Cant wait to see what they come up with.

When you think about the games we have been lucky enough to get from Sony WWS this gen, we must count ourselves very lucky.

The Last of Us Part 2. God of War. Horizon Zero Dawn, Ratchet and Clank. Spiderman. Days Gone. Uncharted 4. Sony have spoilt us!

well done! the game visuals alone sold the game! better than many next gen titles!

Correction: 2 days*

@Rob_230 I'd like them to continue to make more 'grounded' games. Yes it's exciting to think what ND could bring to the table as far as a sci-fi or fantasy game but I am not sure that's the best direction for them.

I've been thinking that I'd like to see them tackle the crime genre next, maybe a film noir game set during the 50's in New York. Their world-building is off the scale so New York would look amazing plus they're masters when it comes to telling a story. A veteran private eye or maybe someone starting a new career after serving during WWII. Something like that anyway.

@Col_McCafferty Totally agree. I knew ND before Uncharted, but their games didnt really appeal. They are best when they are making grounded stories with relatable characters.

It will be interesting to see if they do go down the sci fi route. They have teased 'savage starlight' on posters in both Last of Us games now, so i keep wonder if it is a clue (like with the reveal of the original Last of Us in Uncharted 3 in the newspaper).

I'd love to see a crime/film noire type of game from them. I think they would do a brilliant job! Good shout

Congrats Naughty Dog! Well-deserved. Gotta say though that your choice of pic for this thread seems off to me. Oh, I did pre-order the game and I'm closing in on finishing it. A masterpiece for sure.

Terrific achievement and well deserved!

I finished at half past one this morning and games just don't make me play all night these days. The best game I've played this generation with a fantastic story that makes you think about your actions from other people's perspective and one of the very few games I've felt emotionally involved.

Finally the gameplay rarely gets a mention despite being a huge step up from the original, with much improved stealth and combat mechanics. On this front alone its above most games I've played, oh and my favourite character is the one so many seem to hate

Very impressive indeed! Glad the negativity around it doesn't seem to have really effected it. Happy everyone is enjoying it!!

@carlos82 I rolled credits last night too not going to lie but the last flashback scene broke me. It’s going to stay with me for a long time. I’m glad we’ve got devs like Naughty Dog who are brave enough to do something different

Congrats to Naughty Dog. Quite the impressive feat in just three days.

@gameiznotover 19th, 20th, 21st. That's 3 days.

@Fuzzymonkeyfunk same, I just sat on the sofa for about half an hour afterwards thinking about all that had happened.

Nice. I hope this is the last in the series and they move onto to something else. Hopefully something that is fun and doesn’t take itself seriously, like another Jak game? Do something for your old fans ND.

@get2sammyb Things aren’t going to be pleasant with that kind of comment... I’m just throwing it out there, but your comment is probably going to start a line of Xbox thrashing and console debate.

@get2sammyb so glad the haters failed with this one, it deserves all the praise it gets.

It was my first digital pre-order, a big milestone for me too! Pop the cork!
But that's really cool to hear, the high quality/budget single player adventure game is alive & well, & that's awesome😀

That's an amazing amount, though not to put a negative spin on this, and this isn't specifically aimed at TLoU2 but games in general, but it actually surprises me how low game sales are even when they're top selling games like this. I know this is only a 3 day period, but if there's 110 million PS4s out there and rounding this to 4 million sales, it means so far 96.4% of PS4 owners haven't bought the game. And that's the fastest selling exclusive on the platform. Seems crazy to me, but then I guess it's a side effect of one of the best things about gaming; there's always so many choices.

@JustEddie From 00:00 Friday until 00:00 Sunday, that's 48 hours, so 2 days.

@get2sammyb Yeah, it always makes me laugh when some people talk about how good Microsoft are for doing Game Pass. without realising what an act of desperation it is. It's like the rich bad guy that can't swim drowning at the end of the movie, a result of his own evil plan, and he's saying to the main character "Please, save me! I'll give you anything, my yacht, my mansion, whatever you want!" then the protag says a one-liner and walks away.

I'm still going to stand defiantly in the face of gushing praise and say this game for me was just good, and most of that was propped up by the graphics and gameplay.

To me, it's just another zombie horror apocalypse that has better narratives than the others.

I respect peoples opinions to the contrary, i'm just not part of the gang for this, and will say that honestly, it was just "good".

Also, for people who try to make their opinion a matter of fact by stating sales, please note that sales can be a measurement of success, but not necessarily viewed as critically great by the masses. Movies like "Transformers" have grossed as some of the biggest box office hits of all time, but have been critically panned. There's controversy over whether this is a critical hit or not, a lot of people don't agree it to be so.

Not to take this comment out of context, I still think it's a 7.5-8, that's pretty damn good still. I just don't think it's as good as the people literally putting it as some sort of god tier material, a flawless masterpiece that cannot be criticized, or disagreed with. Cause it just ain't so.

@Matroska 100% this (your first comment). I'd be absolutely shocked if Horizon FW or GoW 2 beat this record and that's because the install base won't be nearly as high with PS5, it certainly won't by the time the former game releases in 2021, we'll see about the latter though.

Major congrats to Naughty Dog though, the game deserves it, absurdly fantastic. PS4's had some real masterpieces (and I sincerely believe this game is one) this year from Dreams, P5R, and now this. Absolutely phenomenal.

@Fuzzymonkeyfunk Dude, that final scene had me weeping like a child. It really messed me up, to the point I got absolutely no sleep last night haha. It’ll be a bit before I can play through it again.

@Matroska You have to bear in mind that although 100 million PS4s have been sold, a decent chunk of that will be people buying multiple consoles, such as upgrading to a Pro, or getting a limited edition console. Then you also have to bear in mind the more casual audience who buy exclusively for Call of Duty, FIFA, GTA etc, rather than exclusives. Not to mention, not every single game appeals to everyone (for example, I didn't enjoy the first TLOU enough to get the sequel although I may get it down the line when it is cheaper).

If console sales equalled guaranteed game sales, then companies would probably have supported consoles like the Wii U and PS Vita since the sales would still have been a lot (but then again, why add 20 million onto 100 right?). 4 Million is still an impressive number.

Edit: Just to add a little bit on, it is also the same reason why companies are more interested in active users and the like, such as active PSN and PS+ users. It is a bigger indicator of how much money can potentially be made.

Nah, Im one of the future sales for this one.

Loved it. Played my first run-through on the standard settings, explored as much as I could, and clocked just over 43 hours from beginning to end.

Personally, I loved every second. Yes, it's very violent, very graphic, and very grim... but I couldn't leave it alone once I'd started. I found it very compelling.

I had a few issues and minor irritations in terms of the gameplay, though. Sometimes it wasn't as responsive as I'd like... I felt as if I a reasonable portion of my deaths were due to button presses not being registered, rather than my own errors. And Dina replaced Bill as the target of my "be quiet, you f*cking moron!" rage on a number of occasions as she ran around in her clogs while I was being stealthy, and got in my way as I explored more than I'd have liked. These little things seem like a glaring oversight when you consider the attention to detail elsewhere, and an example of why I remain of the opinion that next generation, some of the extra power needs to be used on improved AI, not just higher resolutions and frame-rates.

But over all, I found it to be a hell of an experience, and once I've mopped up the trophies, I'll be starting over with NG+.

@gameiznotover Friday 12:00am-11:59pm = 24hrs, Saturday 12:00am-11:59pm = 24hrs, Sunday 12:00am-11:59pm = 24hrs. Total 72hrs = 3 days

Played though it twice now and loved it. I get people may be upset over a few story decisions but personally I loved it and glad they didnt go with a boring predictable story. Graphics look like next gen, animations are god like. Gameplay fun and varied. Glad it smashed the record in 2 days.

@Col_McCafferty So L.A Noir set in new York ?

@MrSensical Yeah, agreed. Although what balances it out earlier on when there are less console owners out there is that there are also less games to choose between. At one point BotW had sold more copies than the Switch had sold units. But back then it was one of only a handful of reasons to get a Switch. Over time people are split between more and more games. As of January 2020 (or at least that long ago), we'd got to a point where the vast majority of Switch owners hasn't bought BotW.

Well done Sony and throughly deserved, it is an outstanding game.

@get2sammyb @Medic_Alert Nah, Sammy is completely right. Gamepass wouldn't be a thing (in its current format - exclusives day and date with retail release) if xbox was selling more software. Its a brilliantly executed piece of PR to get gamers to invest in xbox next generation.

Sony play by the same rules. We would never have got the instant game collection on PS3 - and certainly not the quality of games that we saw when the programme started - if Sony hadn't been struggling against 360 sales. Xbox didnt need to do anything last gen because the sales between the two consoles was so close.

Its not trolling, its just a fact. And its business.

@JapaneseSonic @carlos82

Yep, 2AM and pulled myself off the TV this morning. Half hr later was still thinking about it in bed.

Not something I usually do outside of a big work deadline. Fantastic game.

Man congrats for ND, it's seriously impressive that this games just keep breaking records. Just finished all the side quest on chapter 9 including getting the manual, I thought it's in the big building but it's on the fallen truck, can't wait to continue playing the game 😃

@East76landS Ha, yeah kind of but with the ND touch!

I liked LA Noir but it was a few steps below greatness as far as I'm concerned. It could definitely be bettered.

@Rob_230 Cheers. Maybe a prologue set during a famous battle in WWII, like the Battle of the Bulge for example.

@JapaneseSonic Agree mate Game pass would not be sustainable although it's great value. But look at the AAA exclusive offerings and budgets for the games and its chalk and cheese. I hope Sony never go the gamepass route personally.

@JustEddie https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-06-26-the-last-of-us-part-2-sold-4m-copies-in-two-days

@East76landS Haters talk a good game but in the end achieved nothing. All it did was give some youtubers 10 minutes of fame.

@get2sammyb no kidding. Doing the math if they get $50.00 usd per game that’s $200,000,000 in 3 days. Likely more than Microsoft made off gamepass in its entirety last year. 😂

@Rob_230 I wouldn't mind a sci-fi game. If it's based on those collectible cards from the game; like a Naughty Dog version of DC or Marvel. Could be interesting. Like the upcoming Marvel game, but only better.

@Rob_230 Or if they did not have guaranteed quarterly Enterprise money from Windows/Office.

Microsoft have done this for decades. Basically become their own venture capital and release/maintain a service with a business model nobody else can afford. Just to gain traction or stay part of that market. Usually when things are not going well.

@Col_McCafferty I would love to see Naughty Dog recreate a portion on 1920s-1930s New York or London. World War 1 veteran turned private eye could be an awesome adventure game.

Well deserved. The game is a masterpiece, and among the best I've ever played. I love this game more than the original, and a certain someone has become my new favorite character in the series.

@IamJT Yeah that could work as well.

Congrats to ND. Even though at the end of the game I felt it couldve been shorter and less depressing its still a great game

I wonder how many of the 'I won't buy it' crowd bought it then.
I bet it was a lot of them once the 9's & 10's started rolling around.
At approximately £50 a copy, Sony has just made a revenue of £200,000,000 in less then a week.
Ker'ching!!

In Dog We Trust!

Fantastic, bold, groundbreaking game, well deserved.

Numbers are insane, but I already have spotted 18% discounts of the brand new physical copies on some stores.

@Matroska I, for one, would take his mansion and yacht and save him. Strange more people dont think like that...

Those are impressive numbers over just 3 days! ND do tell a good story and I am loving the game so far, will definitely be going for a second play through to get that shinny platinum.
With simple maths and assuming an average price of £45 they have made £180M from this in the first 3 days?? I wonder how much they needed to make just to break even as they are surely into big profits now!!

Great game so far! I bought it physical and couldnt wait the extra three days to receive it through the mail. So i cancelled it and bought it digital instead

To all the haters "You can't stop this."

@Mostik I've seen an estimate that the game probably cost at least $100m to make (Screenrant article...no idea how reliable they are)...so, based on that, Sony are probably already in the black on the game.

@eshy76 Thanks for the info, I know they are expensive but that has to be more than a lot of movies these days! Good on ND, they deserve every penny I say

@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Apparently a big chunk of Pro owners had already bought a regular PS4. So the actual individual owner number is less than 100 million, not sure how much less. I think it was 40% of Pro owners previously owned a regular model but I'm not sure how many Pro owners there are.

@Grindagger i just want to say thank you for setting out your opinions in such a fair and well reasoned way. The hyperbole around this game has been discusting and so its refreshing to see such a level headed and honest appraisal of the game in your comment - and, you know, showing that you actually played the game to reach that decision.

@Rob_230 With the intent of not coming across as too cynical, I'm going to assume this is not a heavy dose of sarcasm, and say thanks.

@Medic_Alert That’s exactly what I’m saying. We should be celebrating Sony right now, instead we have moderators taking digs at other companies that have nothing to do with this.

@get2sammyb We’re supposed to celebrate Sony right now, so why even mention Xbox or Nintendo? That’s like proposing to someone at a friends baby shower.

@get2sammyb @MarcG420 The problem with your assumptions is it isn't obvious at all. With 10 million Game Pass subscribers paying roughly $10 a month (some pay less, some more) you're looking at roughly $100 million a month in revenue. It's not hard to see Sony doubling those numbers with their much larger consumer base. That's a lot of revenue. Granted they still have to pay for the 90ish other games on the service but they already do that with PS Now.

I think it's an interesting concept to look into and maybe make an article arguing the pros and cons but mentioning Game Pass here detracts from Stephen's message and shifts the conversation away from Sony's achievement.

@Akurusu beat me to it.

@RedShirtRod the problem with that argument is literally nobody would be paying the full $10 per month. They’re basically giving it away in the hopes they’ll start paying full price.

I believe this achievement was reached mostly because the first game was highly appraised and not because how good/bad the sequel actually is. Not to take any merit out of the game, but we'll have a clearer picture in the following months to see how many legs the game has.

Congrats and my sincere Thank You to Naughty Dog and Neil Druckmann for their achievement with The Last of US II.

@Grindagger haha well this is the internet so i dont blame you for being suspicious!!!

No, im being totally legit. Im genuinely mentally exhausted from all of the hate that's surrounded this game. It's totally normal and fine that people have different views on everything in life, and this is no different.

But the vocal minority have been trying to spoil the game for everyone and havent really had anything to further their arguments. They have resorted to telling people they are wrong for liking the game, that they have wasted their money and have then proceeded to reveal plot points and claiming everyrhing about the game, from the story to the gameplay is rubbish (i mean even if people dont like the story, i dont know how they can like the gameplay in the first game and then say its trash in this one???).

So in a comments thread where i was expecting more of the same hatred, it was genuinely refreshing to read your balanced comments on why you didn't love it. So thank you! 👍

@MarcG420 Unless you can prove that "literally nobody" pays full price for gamepass, you can't argue the service doesn't make how many millions a month.

Burden of proof is on you with that one.

@Richnj are you honestly suggesting people aren’t using the 1$ promotions that are always running? Or getting their free time from pop tarts etc... cmon bud, get real.

@MarcG420

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

@Richnj so that is what you’re suggesting then 🤣🤣

And actually the burden of proof would be on the initial replier who made the claim of 100,000,000 per month which was never proven.

@MarcG420 His logic was derived from the 10 million subs at $10 a month. Which is sourcable outside of his argument. Whether it's true or not, he actually has something he's basing his maths on. Yours is not based on anything.

@Richnj I’m basing mine on the well known fact that there are always discounts available for gamepass. I’ve seen people say they’ve racked up YEARS with the dollar promotions.

Edit:
This is all common knowledge.

Using faulty math and logic to try to prove your/his points just plain stupid.

Let’s not forget that in 2018&2019 Sony’s PSN and services alone made more money than all of Xbox. Surely this wouldn’t be the case if gamepass was such an earner for them 😉🙄 (That’s not even counting Sony’s billions more in hardware sales).

@MarcG420 You've just shotgunned a lot of arguments here.

1) Just because there are always sales, and people are taking advantage of those doesn't mean you know exactly how many are taking advantage of said sales. Your fact could range from all 10 million users to just 1. That's such a huge variable that a solid argument can't be made. And you actually tried to make a definitive one saying "literally nobody pays full price". Either show your evidence or admit you were wrong on that one.

2) the PSN sales included digital sales of games, PSN subs, and PS plus. That's not a direct comparison of what each service makes. Since PS4 did have so many more users, it stands to reason that much more was spent of digital sales, increasing that revenue.

3) I checked the 2018 revenues. It was $12.5bn for PS, and $11.5bn for xbox. I don't know what world you come from but firstly, that sounds very close and secondly, $11.5bn sounds like a lot of money to me. If we assumed gamepass did make the maximum amount, that would be about $1bn of the $11.5bn xbox made digitally. That sounds pretty reasonable considering we still have xbl gold and digital sales to factor in to that amount.

4) We aren't arguing about hardware sales. We are talking about what gamepass makes. Hardware sales would not be added to the digital sales. It's weird you'd bring that up unless you were just trying to prove PS made more money, which again, isn't what I'm arguing against. The only way hardware matters here is how I explained in point 2.

@MarcG420 I actually made two points and I think you've missed them both. First is that disregarding a Game Pass service from Sony isn't cut and dry as Sammy made it out to be. We're talking about the merit of Sony's service, not the success or failure of Microsoft's. The numbers show that people are willing to buy and keep their subscription plans. Netflix $5.77 billion in quarterly revenue with 182 million subscribers. Do the math and subscribers paid roughly $11 dollars a month for the service throughout the quarter. By your logic that average should be much lower as people should end their service after getting what they want.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/21/21229587/netflix-earnings-coronavirus-pandemic-streaming-entertainment

The second point (and the one I think is the most important) is that this isn't the place to have this discussion. I would love a writer from Push Square to deep dive on the numbers that would need to happen for Sony to reach the same revenue through subscription services as revenue through normal sales. The comments section for Sony selling 4 million copies of TLOU 2 in 3 days isn't the place. I would be more than happy to continue this if they decided to go that route. Until then I'll just assume that I haven't changed your mind and we will have to agree to disagree.

@Richnj you’re comparing psn and services on Sony’s side to ALL of Xbox’s earnings. There were billions more in hardware sales, but yeah let try and make it seem like they were close.

Honestly I don’t even know why you’re trying to argue the point 😂

@RedShirtRod I can’t believe you’re trying to compare the biggest streaming company in the world to the 3rd biggest console maker in the world.

Stretch Armstrong here 🤣🤣

Your argument is so flawed I don’t even know where to begin.

@MarcG420 I misread that one. You just gonna ignore the rest of the points?

@Grindagger
Yet it has been critically appraised by the vast majority of websites so what are you banging on about???

@Richnj

#1- i was making the argument that they hadn’t made anywhere near 100,000,000 a month as the service is always available at a discount which it is making it a valid point.

#2 - I was showing how dwarfed Xbox’s earnings are compared to only 2/3 of Sony’s earnings even.

#3- you were just plain wrong on

#4- refer to point 2

@Grindagger how is there debate that’s it’s a critical hit when it as a 95 mc and oc score with 52 perfect scores while being considered not only the front runner for goty but one of the gotg lol.

@get2sammyb don’t worry it’s like how some of resetera act like this site is just clickbait titles and fanboy wars it’s ridiculous . You made an observation that was perfectly fine especially because people always ask if sonys going to do a gamepass equivalent and like you said this shows they would be crazy to.

@snowstorm2574 you mean infamy

@Akurusu man get out of your feelings dude how the hell was it a dig at MS. People love gamepass and ask all the time if Sony is going to do it and results like these just show why Sony will never do that. It was an observation nothing more if you or anybody else want to make it a fanboy thing that’s on you not Sammy who was just saying why we won’t see a gamepass equivalent on PlayStation anytime soon.

@Zuljaras it’s because it was better easily and the reason for that is ND doesn’t write fan fiction like some of the haters would have so loved for them to do and thank god for that.

@dark_knightmare2 Not in my feelings. it’s actually 94 on Metacritic. The mods wanted this to be a pleasant discussion here which is why I said if it is to be civil, don’t bring up other brands. Then what happened? We’re celebrating PlayStation, not talking about another company’s business practices and what happened. The thread went completely off topic. I’m not a fanboy but I gotta say you’re the biggest one. You get so defensive, like... SO defensive. I’ve seen a few people call you out on it.

Bought the game and not surprised to see it selling so well. Druckmann and the people at Naughty Dog are quite a bit up their own backsides though. 'One of a kind' story? Been plenty of revenge stories and ones that subvert expectations over the years in all forms of media.

@Gamer83
The quote was "a new kind of story", not "one of a kind story".

I could be wrong but I believe he meant new for them, as all of their other games have been significantly more lightweight fare, or that had happy endings like the first game.

4 million disappointed people me being one of them

@Akurusu lol I comment on here irregularly so nice try trying to make that up I would love for you to provide some receipts on that and I’ll be waiting. You got all fanboyish about the gamepass observation which was just a comment to show how Sony would be crazy to have a subscription like that yet you went the route of trying to call me a fanboy which is the go to for someone who has lost a conversation before it’s even begun.

@Akurusu You can have a pleasant discussion while talking about other brands. What Sammy said wasn't a dig nor was it disrespecting MS' Game Pass. His point was that sales like the Last of Us 2 is the reason why Sony doesn't have any type of Game Pass. That's simply it. If anything, you bringing it up in the first place didn't exactly help, now did it? It also doesn't help to call others "fanboys" because they don't agree with you, nor pander to your expectations. If you want that, try another site that suits your needs or start your own. Plenty of options out there. All in all, you're not worth my time, so good luck with whatever path you take.

@dark_knightmare2 The minute someone has to use the term "fanboy," isn't really prepared to debate anyway. Too many sensitive individuals on the internet these days.

I'm a little torn on this one if I'm being honest. The first half of the game was great. I was captivated, I was motivated to help Ellie do everything she wanted. No complaints, but then it switched up at the halfway point. I respect the hell out of naughty dog for the risks thst took in story telling in the second half, but it didn't connect with me at all. I know they wanted me to feel empathy, but it had the opposite effect. It disconnected me almost fully, and that is when the far left talking points started coming with alarming regularity.

I'm still enjoying it don't get me wrong, and I'll finish it this weekend, and maybe again after that, but the original last of us was the gold standard as far as representation in gaming is concerned. The last quarter of this one is not. They really come at you HARD with the far left stuff. It's not really a deal breaker for me, but it really broke immersion and took it down a few pegs.

The first half was every bit the worthy successor to the original, but it does drop off. Not to say it's not great overallverall it's still a top 10 narrative of this gen for sure maybe top 5 really, probably top 3 narrative in action games, and coming off of FFVII Remake at least this story is coherent even if the world represented isn't representative of reality in some ways.

So after all the review bombing and Homophobic nonsense it looks like the vast majority are still enjoying this game. Good to see there's still some intelligent life out there! You may not like where the story goes but there's no denying this is a well crafted top notch effort from naughty dog as usual. No surprises here.

I will start by saying i cant give a true oppinion on TLOU2 as i have not physically played it. I couldnt get in to the 1st one despite countless tries and restarts so i just ended up reading the plot of it and the 2nd one. Made for a good read.
They are some amazing sales figures tho and froM what i have physically seen being played, the game looks jaw dropping and the attention to detail is ND at their finest. I look forward to ND's next game. Maybe a new IP? Id like to see ND throw a curve ball and try something new from the past. Maybe something inspired by Goodfellas or something from the madieval times could be pretty cool and interesting.

@Gamer83 please provide an example of a game with a similar story.

@Derinum
‘Wow what a bubble these comments are so this is where the unwashed liberal morons congregate.’

Welcome and yes it is - you’ll fit in well with rest of us.

@Jdzspace Now see I respect this comment its honest but not filled with hate. Me personally I loved the story line and the questions it forces you to deal with. Without spoiling it for others the subject is hate and the never ending cycle that revenge brings and who is the real villain. But i can totally understand why some people didnt like the story arc and that's completely fine. Ghosts next on up cant wait.

@naruball
The classic God of War games. It's not exactly the same but it's a tale of revenge, how it consumes you, cycles of violence. There is nothing special, outstanding or smart about TLoU 2's writing, it's a basic revenge tale.

@Derinum I can tell you if you go on genuine sites or twitter accounts that's not designed for hate or clickbait its 50/50 on the story. I personally loved it along with millions of players. Yh some people hated that Naughty dog didnt conform to expectations and do the predictable story where life is all peach and Ellie and Joel live happily ever after. But they took a risk and in my opinion it worked, but that's just it it's my opinion. I dont think you can call it bad writing tbh but I suppose that's your opinion. Hope you enjoy the great games coming up mate.

@Gamer83 Yeah, seems like most people would disagree with you on that, but at least now I know what you're talking about.

@snowstorm2574 It may be true that it is indeed 50/50. But it's impossible to tell with so many people who haven't played it attacking it or praising it.

Fully deserved, game and story.....yes story!

Are incredible, best game game I've ever played

@Akurusu yeah would love them to change direction a bit and make us a new Jak. Something completely lighthearted after this dark game!

@Lumic Critics or reviewers do not represent the public.

@dark_knightmare2 The people are what truly matters. Critics only represent a very small portion of people who have played the game and their opinions are not infallible or without fault. Not to mention the horrendous amount of inside corruption that is involved with the insidious side or review payoffs, but that's another matter. Bottom line, if critics are all you base anything off, you're not much of a critical thinker, or able to come to your own conclusions. Believe me, there are a lot of people who dont consider this a critical hit. The very fact that there is a discourse between two sides in this comment section is testament to that fact.

@Grindagger
No they don’t - thank you for stating the obvious. So you consider every review from the public credible and objective?

@Lumic I consider collective views to be a more accurate representation. Suffice to say I discount metacritic as it is filled with trolls and idiots who haven't even played the game. However, having said that, I assure you whilst the game has been well received by critics, it has not been across the board agreement with the general public as a whole. Also, I never said it's a bad game, but it's also not universally accepted as being an uncriticizable masterpiece. Protecting your dream game with fanboy blinders on doesnt do yourself any justice. Try to appreciate perspectives outside of your own, I appreciate some people want this to be god tier because they love the genre and style so much, but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

@Grindagger
Ooh you dropped the fanboy card - well done you. I’m very receptive of others opinions and at no point did I claim this was ‘god tier’ as you put it. I enjoyed the game very much but it doesn’t rank in my all time greats (clearly you assumed that this was my dream game - it’s not). I’m just interested as to how come to the conclusion that the general public’s’ opinion is more valid than that of the critics.

@Lumic Sarcasm aside. It's simple, critics are are not representatives on a games legacy, the public are. Because those are the consumers, and the games are made for the consumers not the critics. Also critics can be bought and therefore write disingenuous reviews, especially when it involves titles that can generate a lot of cash. Due to the limited amount of certified critics this can end up with a heavily skewed score. The general public when equalled out over the masses provides a more definitive and accurate account of the games actual critical acclaim.

@Grindagger
And the review bombing???

@InsertUsername Dumbest thing I’ve heard of. “YoU cAlL sOmEoNe A fAnBoY sO yOu CaN’t DeBaTe” Get our of your feelings. Dark nightmare has been called out plenty of times. You must be new to this site because any time another brand is brought up, no matter if it’s good, bad, or neutral, someone is going to say something. And look what happened, the whole board got off topic & started comparing numbers with some unpleasant things thrown in. But this is a site heavily skewed towards PlayStation with only a few people viewing things from other pointe. You’re not worth my time either. Nobody was thinking about you anyway.

@dark_knightmare2 I tried to refrain from saying it, and you know what. I think I will. I’m 100% sure that if another site made an observation about PS Now or something else PlayStation, a PlayStation fan would get defensive. I’ve seen it happen. Like I said before, we’re supposed to be celebrating PlayStation right now. Bringing up other companies only causes discussions to go off topic and that’s a fact.

@Lumic I assuming you're referring to metacritic? Most of it is just upset people who haven't played the game, ive seen some genuine reviews amongst the straight up hate, but they represent the tiniest sliver of the public, so in the bigger picture aren't that representative.

@snowstorm2574 - I totally get the cycle of violence angle, and it was/is a very interesting story arc. That being said the act committed was beyond unforgivable, so after the midway point I still wanted what Ellie wanted and says in that original teaser to "kill every single last one of them". As you can imagine that colored the second half very differently for me. I understand there are two sides to every story, but they initial act that started everything was justified, the retribution was not. I still want Ellie's justice to be ultimate and final.

PS4 has been waiting for a genuine exclusive of this calibre since it launched 7 years ago. Worst library of exclusive titles of any format, ever.

At least it got to finish on a high note before it replaces itself. Everybody.... look forward to “The Last of Us 2: Remastered” on PS5, this time next year and other such titles that warrants buying a PS5........?

@Col_McCafferty red dead 2 is utter dog dirt and the epitome of pointless graphic driven gaming we’ve come to expect from Rockstar and unfortunately, infinitely and endlessly superior in every way on XBox One X. Clamouring first this game on PS4, is like the people who went on and on about Street Fighter II on mega drive without ever realising how much of a poor version it was compared to every other format.
Last of Us 2 however? Is incredible.

I read and post on there, here and nintendolife.
I play all three formats.
If you’re a Sony fanboy then fair enough, cry away. A comment is a comment whether it’s positive or negative. If only positive is allowed in a Sony site regardless of any earned merit then you’re a fascist.
I think I’ve as much right to comment where I please just as much as you do.
Please shush or grow a brain and have something worthwhile saying.
YAWWWWWWWWWN.

@carlos82 same here man

@Grindagger for this game the majority of negative (and some positive) opinions I see are from those who haven't played the game, or watched a stream and now know everything about it. I've no problem with reasonable reviews like your own and in no way think any game I've ever played is flawless, RDR2 and BOTW are held in very high regards but I have some issues with both, still really enjoyed them though.

Back to TLOU2 and yeah I'd give it a 10 which I rarely do, mainly because the gameplay was a big step up from the original. The stealth is much improved and now when I do get spotted I feel I have the tools to either fight back or be able to hide again and there were a few fun puzzles with the fancy rope mechanics. Its not perfect, I wish the open nature of downtown Seattle happened a bit more throughout and a certain part towards then end felt a little tacked on, oh and I'm going to strangle my companion if they push me out of cover one more time 😂 but my overall experience was amazing.

@Grindagger I think the praise for the sales comes here because all the hate that people have shown it. Talking about sales make it seem like the haters were a small majority and maybe that’s true. No matter what it is, ND have lost fans to this, a bunch of people will be far less interested in their next game because of how this turned out.

I didn’t buy this game or play it and I don’t plan to. I was already on the fence after what they showed off at E3 but the leaks confirmed it for me. I can’t say the game was bad but it clearly wasn’t for me, the first game was fantastic but not so great that I was always gonna pick up the next one.

Over 4 million people that love bad franchises.

@Agramonte Ya me too, wondering what's wrong with me, keep thinking about the story after I've played it. It has a hold on me emotionally and can't wait to see what happens next. Staying up past 1am then going to bed and thinking about the story. Can't remember when a story hooked me like this. On my way to the aquarium now.Still don't know any spoilers, I'm sure I'm in for surprises. Don't know if Ive gotten to the scene that caused uproar. Don't want to read anything about it until I finish the game.

@naruball
Yeah, very unpopular take, I know it is. That said I stand by it. I'm not a big fan of the main story in this game. However, I will give credit where it's due and say there is a lot to like. The gameplay is much more polished than the first and the balance of action and slower moments is a near perfect balance like Uncharted 2 was. The game looks gorgeous and exploring is fun. While I may not care for the main story the world building is outstanding. The expanded lore that can be found by going through buildings and other places adds a ton and there are also many cool Easter eggs that call back to Naughty Dog's past hits.

So essentially, now that I've had time to think on it, I do think this is an essential game. It's not up there with the first imo but it's a real solid 8/10. Obviously feelings on the story is subjective but it will be one that gets talked about for decades, in that sense it's mission accomplished for the devs.