It feels so good to finally say that the Demon's Souls PlayStation 5 remake is officially a thing. Announced during Sony's PS5 games reveal event last night, it blew our socks off with an announcement trailer for the ages. We don't know when we'll get our hands on it just yet, but Bluepoint Games' latest project will give us the option of prioritising either the game's visuals or frame rate.
As detailed in a PlayStation Blog post, Demon's Souls will offer two different graphical modes. One will focus on fidelity, and the other on frame rate. The article doesn't state what frame rates will be on offer, but we have to assume that the game will offer 60 frames-per-second should you opt for that mode. Meanwhile, the option focused on graphics will probably run at 30. That's speculation on our part, although we think it makes sense for a project this large and grand.
When you play Demon's Souls on PS5, which mode will you choose? Visuals or frame rate? Make your decision in the comments below.
[source blog.playstation.com]
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Brilliant that they give you the choice. Really depends on exactly what the options are as to which I'd choose. But a higher frame rate makes sense I suppose when doing a lot of pvp battles.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought one of the main aims of the PS5 was to eliminate the need to choose between framerates and visuals?
@tanaka2687 Yeah I'm fine with this sort of thing on my PS4 Pro as a half step but I would expect the PS5 could do both without compromise.
Wish future PS5 titles gets this feature.
60 FPS for sure.
Shouldn't the PS5 do both?
It needs to be 4k 60fps minimum or what's the point? This generation will be quite the disappointment if 30fps is still common in games.
30 fps is enought but if there won't be noticable difference i will set frame rate mode up. I played God of War with higher framerate since i couldn't tell the difference between FPS and resolutuon mode.
I hoped it would be 60fps 4K but framerate Is the priority anyway if I have to choose...
Probably graphics for me, but it makes little difference - I'll die repeatedly on both modes
@tanaka2687 that was my first thought but with the specs we know about, Sony could be thinking 4K/60fps or 1080/1440 & 120fps.
It's a hypothetical of course but the fact they've not clarified what they're targeting and they want to get away from the compromises of the PS4 pro, I would expect more than what is currently on offer.
If we're still not going to get 4K 60fps on PS5 then games NEED to give us the option of boosting the frame rate at a lower resolution. There is absolutely no excuse not to have graphics options like this. At least Bluepoint gets it!
4K 60 will be too demanding for PS5 in most AAA games. For reference, with Ghost Recon Wildlands at max settings 4K I could only get around 40ish ave with a 2080TI/8086k 5GHz setup. I imagine to get 60 they will use reconstruction techniques like checkerboard etc. It’s great that they’re now able to offer this choice on console, I hope it’s available in Ratchet and Clank
I usually try both and then see how I'm feeling. With a game like this thought I'll probably go with frame rate.
I'm more curious to see if they rework the combat. This is one of my favourite games, but it does feel a little bit clunky now.
@Synthatron_Prime - If games are to have ray tracing then 30fps is still going to be common. PS5 may be a huge step up from PS4 but 4K/60 with RT on will not be happening.
@tanaka2687 No, you can always increase the frame rate and resolution. And keep in mind that more advanced AI, detailed game worlds, etc. also take up processing power. So no matter how powerful your rig is, a developer has to prioritise. I do hope options like this become industry standard.
Framerate obviously, given that it’s a game of reflexes and frames.
Why in the world is this a thing! It should be doing both. PS4 already has this weak feature.
But can I prioritise the difficulty? I want to play it on normal mode lol.
But seriously, this is good, let people choose between framerate and visuals. I'm gonna try both, 30 fps with RT seems great as long as the framerate is stable.
This shouldn't be necessary next gen, can't we have both? Sad that frame rates will still struggle on ps5 with optimum fidelity. 1080p @ 60 fps for everything is a reasonable expectation considering the specs
It'll be 1080p@60fps
Or 4k@30fps probably.
Will take the 60fps for this game anyday.
I thought and expected the new consoles to support 4K 60fps easily. And 8k at 30fps. That’s why tvs with HDMI 2.1 are going to support 120hz.
I will wait for the remake of this one on the PS6 so I don't have to choose between framerate and visuals.
More I hear about the "revolutionary" next gen leap, the more it simply seems to be the smallest step in console generations history...
As people have said, it really should do both considering this is a "next gen" release.
My moaning aside, I really do appreciate the choice this gen when games do offer this. Hopefully it's just Bluepoint being bluepoint and offering it by default as they did in SOTC
Maybe 60 fps or 120 fps?
It is next gen, for god's sake.
@rjc-32 Yeah, people underestimate just how much a full 4K adds to the rendering of a game. Especially given games will be looking a lot better than Ghost Recon.
Agree w/ all the "Why not both?" comments. Seems like Sony's first big stumbling block after all the good will yesterday.
But to give them the benefit of the doubt, some people, like myself, still don't own a 4k tv. So if the option is 1080p at 120 or 4k at 60 well since I don't own a 4k tv yet the choice is kinda already made for me.
And before you say - well it's 2020, everybody should own a 4k TV. Yes, most people probably do, but not every kids room or college dorm room is going to own a 4k tv, they still make relatively small 24-32 TVs for those locations 1080p. My 52" 1080p TV is going on 12 years old, got it w/ my PS3, but it works great, so haven't seen the need to buy a new one yet. I can't really fit much bigger than that anyway.
My son's bedroom is 32" 720p, so give your sympathy to him. He has everything hooked up to his 1080p 24' monitor except the Wii.
But it's still disturbing to read this the day after the reveal, they need to clarify what the resolution and frame rate choices are pronto.
@ShogunRok spot on. I'm hoping all games will include the option to prioritise frame rate over 4k resolution.
I was hoping for 4k 60fps especially if the rumours of the console price are true but it seems that developers are focused too much on pushing fidelity
@Blacksmith1985 at a very maximum the console market has 7% of its player base playing on high end monitors. Why on earth do you think developers would spend time on looking at implementing 120fps
Don't care. Just want to play Demons Souls with modern graphics!
How does a remake of a PS3 game not run 4k 60fps? This is really pathetic Bluepoint.
@koaeinferno its a completely different engine they haven't just taken the original game and up scaled the resolution. Not sure if your trolling or just plain stupid
Sony have called it Fractured Mode, In addition to Awesome shadow effects and Ray Tracing, Players can choose between Higher Fidelity OR Higher FPS.
IF they do that to ALL there games then that will make everybody happy.
What if the higher fidelity is 8K? Higher frame rate 100+ fps?
People are quick to slag Sony off arent they???
@Tha_Likely_Lad lower your pathos, bro.
PS5 has 120 fps in its specs, why not?
Considering this is a remake of past-past gen, by the way.
@DigiTM Absolutely not
I’m sick and tired of the 60fps people bitching and moaning all the time . Believe it or not there are those of us in the gaming community that honestly couldn’t give two ***** about the frame rate being 60fps. It only really benefits for shooters anyways for the most part. RPGs have no need to be 60fps. Now if you’re focusing solely on pvp then ok maybe I could see some benefit there, but that’s not the main aspect of this or pretty much any other rpg out there. Giving the option is the right call but it shouldn’t be forced on those who would gladly halve the frame rate to increase fidelity.
-rant over-
@tanaka2687 Exactly my thoughts...
I thought this would be 4K60 out of the box :/
@MarcG420 Games like Demon Souls need 60fps, where combat and timing is everything the higher the framerate the better. One of the biggest drawbacks of Bloodborne is the lack of 60fps and would feel and play better with it.
@WallyWest as someone who has platinumed bloodborne and dark souls 3 I must disagree with you. I spent a lot of time playing both of those games, pvp included and not once did I feel like the frame rate was lacking.
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thought the future of console gaming was supposed to do both. 🙄, a game like this though if given a choice is frame rate, but as said i thought next gen would eliminate this.
I'd personally take 1080p 60 fps over 4k 30fps.
@MarcG420 People like u are the reason we have to still deal with 30fps in 2020, 30fps is not a thing in PC gaming and we assumed our new (probably) $500+ PS5 would finally put a end to it.
We already had these options on PS4 pro so what exactly is the upgrade here? Unless they mean 8k 60fps and 4k 120fps but we all know that's not it 😐
Graphics. If it's going to look like that and be a solid 30fps I'll take it all day long. I'm not bothered about 60, yeah it nice but give me a choice. I played the tomb raiders at 4k. They just look so much better on a big telly.
@Bliquid same here, I play gow, hzd and tomb raiders etc with max fidelity.
I couldn't give a toss whether it's 30fps or 60. Some really don't have a clue about game development at all.
I find it funny how every claim to be fans of Demon Souls yet no one is asking if the remake will finally get Land of the Giants Map (Broken Archstone) cut content added to the remake. The assets are already there and all Bluepoint needed was to get more details from the original devs to complete it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hlEShsDl3U
Hopfully they decided to finally add the cut content themselves and we finally get the complete version this time.
@AdamNovice totally agree. Especially those that try to say 30fps is not a thing in pc gaming. Of course it’s a thing in pc gaming. As long as people have varied hardware the resolution and FPS are going to be just as varied as said hardware.
@Juanalf gtfo with your load of bull****. Of course it’s a thing in pc gaming. As long as people have varied hardware the resolution and FPS are going to be just as varied as said hardware.People like you are the people I’m referring to that honestly have no clue what the majority of gamers want or don’t want.
Both? Is this not next Gen?
@rjejr uhhh why would they give you 1080p 120fps? If your TV can't do 4k it certainly isn't doing anything higher than 60 fps. You're way too optimistic about these new consoles if you think they'll be getting anywhere above 60 anyway
60fps > Graphics/resolution.
Should be noted though that I have a 2080 and 1440p ultra wide and it still needs adaptive sync to run every game smoothly, Anything below 45 FPS falls apart though as that is the limit to the adaptive sync on my monitor. But playing on Ultra with full ray tracing and no DLSS will often bring to the frame rate below a steady 60 FPS. 1440 ultra wide is only 2k so at a full native 4K with all bells and whistles can punish any current PC
@Arnna I gave you a thumbs up, and it seems your comment was so righteous, you suddenly got 2. Souls games are ALL about frames.
@TooBarFoo i have a 2080 super and even in 4k max settings wirh raytacing ive never seen under 70fps in modern warfare let alone any game.
@MarcG420 pretty sure anybody arguing that is most likely trying to say nobody wants to play 30fps and changes their settings accordingly to hit 60fps
@Yoitsbp then you’re not paying attention to the other people saying the same thing and the likes my replies got...
Edit: reread your reply and I misunderstood in my quick first read. His point is just plain wrong though. There are people that like 30fps whether he chooses to believe it or not they do exist. And there are also those that even though they like 60fps they’re willing to go down to 30 to get more graphical fidelity. Whatever the case, there most certainly exists those that game at 30fps on pc and console. Some by choice 🤯
@tanaka2687 It's odd and you are right. My guess is that it started production as a PS4 remake and it obviously has the exact options that SOTC had.... I feel that's why. It was most likely well into PS4 production and got moved to PS5
@Yoitsbp 2080 Super is a step up from me and modern warfare is one the very best optimised games ever made, but yes, in general the expectation with DLSS-2 is every thing set on max but does AMD have a DLSS variant? I was getting sub 60 on control at some points on release without DLSS (was still rubbish then). But when I played the foundation I think I was closer to the 100 -120 mark DLSS on
What about the 3rd option? by a PC and play it at 144fps with ultra settings...how is the ps5 going to revolutionize the gaming industry if modern PCs are already more powerful than the ps5?
Erm what? What's the point of the ps5 again?
Being a PC gamer, I prefer higher frame rate over higher resolutions. Demon's Souls is definitely a game that will benefit from 60+ FPS as opposed to 30 FPS. Low frame rates was the biggest issue the original game had, often making the game feel sluggish.
@DigiTM 8K at 30FPS is this even reality on PC yet with a gaming rig?
@Defgnw Never saw a 1080p 120 FPS TV yet.
@TooBarFoo i dont use dlss but back to your original comment 1440p ultrawide is actually alot more pixels than standard 1440p. You said 1440p you run into games that play less than 60fps, there is just no way with a 2080 @ 1440p i have 167 games across steam, origin, battle net, uplay, and microsoft store and have not ran a game that runs under 60fps let alone at 1440p the 2080 super is roughly 1tflop faster oc for oc so its not that dramatic of a difference. Maybe you have a cpu bottleneck because its insane to think your getting under 60fps i can run games at a set custom res of 3000x2500 which is higher than 1440p ultra wide and not get anywhere under 100fps in any game. Id understand if you said in 4k you get under 60fps in some games but 1440p theres a problem somewhere.
Get ready to play games like far cry 6 at 30 frames again! First assassin's creed with the talk of 30 fps, and now a remake with graphic option's!
@Yoitsbp Yes of course Digital foundry don't know what they are talking about and neither does any other gamer but you. Hitting 60 with full ray tracing and ultra settings is still not doable at 4k on any card in many games. Its only since DLSS-2 arrived that that has been possible across the board
And the very first line of my comment read 1440p ultra wide.
I'm sorry to say this because I'm not a PC master race type but hasn't this type of thing been around for 20+ years for pc? I know consoles don't but realistically there isn't really a reason as to why they didn't have these options before. It wouldn't be that hard to have the option to limit visuals to be able to get higher fps right?
@TooBarFoo digital foundry stated the 2080 as the entry 4k card not sure what world your living in. Also standard 1440p is 2k ultra wide is a higher pixel density which i mentioned several times in my comments, your just proving you cant read or listen.
@TooBarFoo chances are you dont even own what you say you do. Heres a link that will show everyone how wrong you are about performance. https://youtu.be/KY-t_FcqvYw
@J2theEzzo thank you sir!
Obviously the 60fps option is the only choice for a game like this. Timing is everything and more fps always helps
Dude I hope it’ll run 1800p @ 60FPS. 4K will look gorgeous, but I don’t think I can do 30FPS for an action heavy game like this.
@tanaka2687 exactly what l thought too... maybe it's a 4k 60 for frame rate and 8k 30 for graphics? lmao! ...l don't really think that! 😁
I think, that resolution or fps is not important. It depends on quality of textures. If you have too compressed or stretched textures, you just get high speed, sharp edged blurriness...
@tanaka2687 my sentiments exactly. Only stipulations shld b what screen ur running. As some still have 1080p sets. But if lucky enough to have 4K. Surely the standard for all games unless cross gen is 4K 60fps locked. Maybe a uncapped mode for beyond 90fps with slight fidelity loss.
People need to remember that resolution isn't the only thing that affects framerates. The visual fidelity of the game and game features all take a toll on performance.
A massive part of of a generational leap is new technologies like ray tracing that take of computational power. You can't have both a resolution bump AND a graphics settings bump and expect higher frames. This is a console, not a high-end PC. It isn't all-powerful.
smh my head
Hopefully the PS5 Pro will offer full 4K/8K 60-120 fps for those that want it. I don't care as long as I can play my games fine.
@Cloud39472 A pc with RTX2080ti can't do both. Welcome to the world of pc. You got options is good.
Shouldn’t the ps5 be able to do both really ? that limitation is so last-gen
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