May 2019's PlayStation Plus lineup has not gone down well with everyone. Although we'd always argue that Overcooked and What Remains of Edith Finch are both great games in their own right, we've seen this before. It's another classic case of people expecting 'bigger' titles that, at least on the surface, offer more value from Sony's subscription service.
Are these people wrong to want more substantial monthly offerings from PlayStation Plus? To be honest, not at all. It's hard to dance around the fact that Sony not only increased the price of PlayStation Plus back in 2016 (North America) and 2017 (Europe), but it also ditched free PS3 and PS Vita titles earlier this year. Ultimately, it's difficult to deny that your subscription has decreased in value.
And so PlayStation's official YouTube channels and social media accounts are being bombarded. Over on the former, the announcement videos are drowning in dislikes. PlayStation US' video is sitting at 220,400 views at the time of writing, but it's only got 3.8k likes versus a whopping 12k dislikes. Likewise, Europe's edition has 638 likes against 2k dislikes. Even the poor buggers over at PlayStation Access are feeling the effects.
We won't go into detail about comments and social media replies, but you can imagine how rough they are.
Do you think PlayStation deserves this treatment? Should we expect more from PlayStation Plus? Give us an honest opinion in the comments section below.
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I think an indie plus big game a month would be a good value.
Here we have two indie games...one of which is more story than game and the other is largely multiplayer focused...local miltiplayer at that.
So for a month of PS+ it doesnt incentivise online use all that much and doesnt have the greatest appeal.
As such, it wont be a good month to encourage resubs or newcomers as...well its not hard to see how this can very easily not appeal to someone.
Overcook is great game.
By any sensible metric these are good games that you're getting for "free," and while I'm sure some people would have twisted about them, those people will twist about any line-up that doesn't include some kind of big budget game. The main issue here, I think, is that Sony is objectively giving PlayStation gamers less bang for their buck with PS Plus, making the smaller PS Plus offerings more egregious than usual.
It is a difficult one to judge because yes, the value of these "free" games is greater than the cost of the subscription for a month, but on the other hand when see that they dropped the selection down to 2 from 6, it is a bit of a p**s take.
These two games are very good offering but they have been reduced in price many times in the past and there are still a few 1st party games they have not given away yet...
@johncalmc bang on the point!
How dare they give away one of the best games of the generation (Finch) for free!
Meh it would OK for me if the ditched the free games and reduced the price. Or a least offer this as an alternative.
Do none of these people by their own games to play? Even if we got so called AAA games I and many others simply wouldn't have to play them judging by the comments sections on here and elsewhere. These games are well reviewed and well received by those who have played them and if they're not to your tastes, then just play the games you already have and enjoy them
Just checked through the last 18 months of PS Plus games and can honestly say I haven't played any of the free games other than Trials Fusion (June 2018), plan to play both of these, so a great month for me.
I do wonder if Sony plan to phase out IGC and switch over to a service like game pass. Microsofts offering for GWG was disappointing too, yet gamepass got some very high profile additions.
Presuming Playstation Now evolves further to offer current titles when PS5 comes out, i wouldnt be surprised to see the end of IGC. It relies on Now being rolled out more widely of course.
And for the record, im delighted to finally have an opportunity to play edith finch. And overcooked is great fun, if massively rage inducing at times when playing coach coop. Not so fun as a solo game mind
If we're not getting games like March's selection with The Witness and COD4 Remaster every month, people riot.
I look at the games from Ps+ as a way for a person to discover a potential favorite.
I havn't been a sub for over 12 months now, I'd consider myself a pretty dedicated gamer and I have a bit of disposable income so theirs something really wrong if I'm not interested in the service. It was useful for discounts on new indies etc. in the past but now we're coming to the end of the generation I have a big enough back log to just wait for deep discounts in one of the regular sales.
Really I was paying it just to play Destiny in the end.
It's an impossible situation. Even if you give another game, if it's not big budget AAA, is going to be criticized.
About the increase of the price of the yearly subscription, I think it brought a more stable network and other perks like a bigger discount in some sales.
the removal of PS3 and Vita games was stupid. Instead they could have brought back some of the big PS3 and Vita games from the early days of PS+ like Yakuza 4,5, BioShock Infinite, Gravity Rush, Uncharted Vita, ...
Must admit I didn't expect such a negative reaction as both games have reviewed really well. But I definitely do share the sentiments of frustration of Vita games being removed from PS+ as I love my Vita and it would be nice to receive at least one additional game to help balance out what's been dropped.
It seems people value quantity over quality these days.
It's probably the same people who disliked the State of Play video just because they don't like VR games
Ouch, even PS Access? Poor guys. Can't really blame them.
Oh I want to see those comments lol
So much drama these days, its like 'outrage' is the default. I mean, what happened to 'mild disappointment'... I played the first Overcooked, was a laugh. Interested to try the other game as saw the great review on here, and not a title I'd likely buy otherwise. To be honest if PS+ has a game Ive really wanted to play, Ive likey bought it in advance...
While these might be two critically acclaimed games, it seems to me that is a bad month for the service as a whole.
You've got one game that's two/three hours long with limited replayability and a multiplayer only (basically) game that's better with friends on the couch/sofa
They're both pretty niche to the more general gaming public so I'm not surprised there's such an overwhelmingly negative response to this month's offering.
I've never had plus myself (barring a free trial) and it's the one month where I'm not a tad jealous of the offering
I understand the disappointment. We have been trained to expect at least one bigger budget title. Receiving two indies, no matter how good they are, will sting the majority of users who don't really care for walking simulators and party games.
Drop the «free» games, drop the price.
@Sinton Agreed. Two tier system would be great. It could then open up conversations for a third tier to include Playstation Now for gamers that want that service as well.
I was fully expecting to get free VR games every month after Sony stopped the Vita and PS3 games. Maybe even an extra PS4 game. How foolish of me.
To be honest I've hardly played any of the free Plus games this gen. PS+ was at it's best during the PS3 era. I feel like I've constantly been waiting for it to improve and with the exception of a few decent months it's never really reached the heights it did last gen.
Back when Plus was still good and during a few good sales i stacked many years of the service. So I think mine runs out some time around 2021 or 2022. Oops.
All those with their feelings of entitlement will change their tune when God of War or Spiderman is eventually included.
As I stated in both previous discussions, I am disappointed by both of these and had 'hoped' for more. The impression was that the increase in cost as well as the loss of PS3/Vita games, that PS+ would offer something better in value.
Value I know is a 'difficult' thing to quantify and that can mean something different to everyone. On the face of it, you are getting 2 games that are critically acclaimed and, if their RRP's are taken into consideration, around half the cost of PS+ in this month alone. That 'value' though can drop if you take the lowest price these games have been available to buy since release, that value 'drops' when you consider you don't own these games - just a 'conditional' licence to play them.
From my own personal opinion, Overcooked was offered back in Jan (I believe) on Games with Gold and Edith Finch, regardless of how critically acclaimed it was, has absolutely no appeal at all. I also appreciate that Sony cannot please everyone all the time, we all have different tastes and some games are already owned by the people that really wanted to play them anyway. That can be said about 'indy' games too - especially i they have been in a sale for pocket money (or less) prices.
Ideally, I would prefer the free games to offer at least 1 month of playability - not something you could blast through in an afternoon and/or be bored with. That again varies from person to person - especially co-op/MP games as these can be limitless.
After over 5yrs though, I would think that there are a LOT of AAA games that could be offered. Many people may of missed them because they joined the PS4 community late so there are a lot of potential titles that could of released alongside an Overcooked or Edith Finch...
If Sony really wanted to "break the wheel", they'd abandon this Microsoft created monster and get rid of "pay to play" online. Make it an optional service, like it was when it began with Qore. I'd still pay, and I'm sure many others would as well, but don't handcuff us to a service simply to be able to do something we should be able to do for free.
At first glance i thought not a great month but i am intrigued by "Whatever Happened To Edith Finch?" so may give that a look. After all i loved Rime when that was a free game last year. I just wonder whether as a Free PS Plus we should get games that were released way back in 2013 or 2014 or have more indie titles alongside the odd AAA game. It is a shame that PS4 is not backwards compatible with PS3 games cause that would have opened up a huge library.
@zarak001
Edith Finch is an excellent title. Fun and moving.
@Knuckles-Fajita Whoa, I never even thought of it that way! You need PS+ to play multiplayer games online, giving more games to play online through the free games service seems like a one-two hit!
I'd be happy with say a rotation or something?
Like, one month is a bigger tittle with a VR title, then the next a multiplayer title with an indie title, and rotate that.
I did use to have more chance of a hit for me when we had 3 systems, especially with cross play, I almost had access to all the games sometimes thanks to vita games crossing with PS3/PS4. Now it's just these two and we hope for the best, maybe that's also a reason for people?
preach on shogun. word up son word
The excision of PS3 and Vita titles absolutely decreases the value of the subscription as simple math suggests. Doesn't mean we have a case as long as the value exceeds the subscription price - which the remaining offers per year safely cover by themselves even if you count the priciest scenario with 12 separate 1-months. Yes, they're subscription-tied as usual, but their secondary perk status has always implied the idea that you'll be motivated to go online in the first place and grow yourself a bonus library while at it.
And if our tastes clash with the objective pricetag sum (no, sales don't count, although I agree that offering a game on the other day's or even concurrent sale is eyebrow-raising - alas, since sales aren't coordinated between regions like IGC tends to be, the issue persists), we always have an option to stop subscribing and limit ourselves to owned single player and non-PS+ multiplayer titles (I think someone boasted that PS4 allows local save backups, too?). Which one may dare assume a lot of the userbase has amassed a good handful of by now.
I think there is lots of issues here. We are late in the console cycle so there is lots of games they could do deals for. They have lots of there own games they could put on still cant believe Killzone hasn't been on Plus yet. There is quite a big list of there own games they could put on stuff like:
Killzone
Everybodys Golf
Infamous Second Son
The Order
Gravity Rush 1 and 2
Uncharted 4
Uncharted Lost Legacy
Any of the uncharted remasters
Horizon
Shadow of The Collosus
Last Guardian
Matterfall
Knack 2
Last of Us remastered
With Drive Club servers shutting down they could give the full version of Drive club and DLC to give it a last hurrah. I cant remember the last time Sony offered one of there own games last one off the top of my head was Knack.
They should defo start throwing in VR games. I also think if you have purchased the the games on PS Plus already then your account wallet should get some extra credit. Youre basically getting penalised for your support.
Just had a look God of War III remastered was the last Sony PS4 game offered and that was back in September. There was also Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls before that. But you have to go back to March last year I think for an original Sony PS4 game which was Bloodborne and Ratchet and Clank.
@bindianaoit of interest though, how many of those do you already own? Look i absolutely get what you are saying, so no shade from me. But one positive is i have played most of the big sony exclusives that i want to play. So i am happier getting something like finch that i may not have otherwise bought.
I still think a vr title should be included now. I got trolled for this before, but i think it would be a great addition (so long as this was on top of the existing 2 title arrangement to ensure everyone with plus gets to play those titles)
Deeply let down by psplus these days. Shame as it used to be far better value for money
Cry babies! Get over it
Definitely glad I don't subscribe any more, I think the service is getting worse. I own Overcooked and think it's good. If you have someone to play it with. Edith Finch I've tried and could probably get into it but I can see how it wouldn't appeal to people who are now paying more per month for less games.
I can't believe, only a year before the PS5 may come out that Sony have hit this level of laziness, arrogance or complacency. You think they would be trying to get people on board ready for the next console battle, not turning people away!
Not saying that they're lousy but damn, two indie games?
@belmont Agree another month and i already have both games. Id rather have an cheaper option or other benefits. Surely they could have a system in the background that could identify you already own the games and offer a discount code or something.
@Rob_230
I actually own 2/4 of those I listed. I own Everybody's Golf and Uncharted remasters. I have played a few of the others but some of them for not very long like The order and Killzone to give them a second chance. Infamous would be nice as well as I could then play a bad playthrough as I only did good when I owned it. I agree a PSVR game would be nice there are quite a lot of cheap games and experiences they could offer would even take stuff like Dying Reborn for free!
The problem with PS+ is that they tie the ability to play online in with free games. Why don't we get to have the option to just pay, say, £20 a year to play online and not have the games? I'm not really bothered about the games, and basically pay £50 just for the privilege of playing online. It's too much.
@XurAgentofthe9 That's actually not a bad idea. The main reason I susbcribe to Plus is to play online. I also like some of the free avatars and themes they give every now and then but that's because I'm not really keen on paying for those sort of stuff.
The sales are generally good once a month, the games are good maybe 1 in 4 or 5. Rest of the service is just adequate.
@bindiana Infamous second son has been a ps plus game I think. I don't want to take away from your point though, plenty quality first party content they could have gave with this month. I'm happy as I was interested in edith finch but can understand why others are not.
@DrClayman its not free and it isn't given away, it is however available to buy and own forever for a similar price as 1 months subs.
@R1spam I thought only the spin off First Light has been on plus not Second Son but I could be wrong on that.
@R1spam no it hasn't, they offered the standalone DLC only.
@Bad-MuthaAdebisi @bindiana @R1spam second son (the main game) has definitely been on plus. I traded in my physical copy when it was free. So @R1spam is right.
That cooking game sounds good for my kid when I dont play Days GoTY.
but Im not being careful here. Im going to be accused of SonyCanDoNoWronging again. 😥
@Bad-MuthaAdebisi @bindiana I thought I downloaded in 2017 along with child of light, I'm EU region though and there may be differences.
@ztpayne7 whoops, I obviously didn't notice picking it up 4 years after launch, I'd already platinumed that game so must be why I forgot. It irked me plenty because they offered the DLC way way before the main game, because bizarre greed.
I personally pay no attention to the free games most of the time, so I'm not really part of the demographic. Hard to deny that PS Plus is going down in value overall though. Being so late in the PS4's lifetime, I feel like we should be getting more than 2 free games a month. Giving us about 3 or 4 free games a month would eliminate at least some of the whining.
It's a pretty meh situation overall. I get the anger, but I'm not really affected.
@R1spam You are correct. I seemed to have missed that one as its not in purchased list that's a shame been kinda wanting to give that a go again oh well need to pay more attention in the future.
Those folks at Microsoft are giving 4 games with at least one guarantee to be AAA, So right now PSN is of less value than Live and no one can argue otherwise. If Microsoft was smart they would make attack ads saying this.
I would prefer Sony just remove the multiplayer pay wall and still offer Plus for those that want these little indy games.
@Juanalf let’s be honest, it’s too big of a money maker and they’re never going to do that. 😂
@bindiana it is pretty cheap as a whole, definitely cheap when on sale. Very fun game to play imo
Edith Finch is such an incredible game, and Overcooked can be a lot of fun if you have people to play it with, but they’re low value games. Not only is their retail low, they’re on sale all the time. I’m fairly sure I picked up Overcooked for $4 or something, not that long ago.
what a bore PS+ is cheap as chips if you get 5 games in a year you like you did ok & the service paid for itself. give me AAA+ every month for my 6 pounds get real people.
@SmokeBombClock Not exactly my idea, its more just saying they could do what Nintendo did with theirs. Granted thats an exclusive to Online game thats Online only, and online play added to retro titles, but the principle is the same
@Juanalf Sony has been more generous than MS the whole 360 PS3 gen MS charged for online Sony did not so I'm not going to be mad at them for charging now for PS+ with Online. Some months Sony offers way better games than MS some months it could be the other way around.
to me, Edith Finch is better than what MS has offered this month anyway.
glad i am not alone in my opinion. there are some people on here that are happy with everything sony does and have a very nonchalant outlook on pretty much everything! lol... it is ok to dislike something that is done by your favourite company. in this case, sony deserves the flack it is receiving...
I wish they’d give us a choice of 6 games and have us pick our favorite 2-3. If we own them we could choose credit or something to get on the store.
@smythelove yea, that would be interesting. not sure if you remember, but they did allow us to vote on one occasion many moons ago. i don't even remember what the choices were, but i assume the idea failed as they never revisited it again
I think people are overreacting - if you look at what they give over a 12 month period, the subscription is still more than worth it. Granted, if you compare this month's PS Plus games to Xbox Live there's a very similar 'budget' feel and the choices may be underwhelming, but maybe it's pointing to a particular stronger offering throught the Summer. Hopefully you'll be thanking them again for keeping you out of the harmful UV rays =0)
@Alex_Bevan honestly? You’ve never heard of any of the PS Plus games from the last 18 months? Doubtful
@sikthvash I tend to agree. I’m happy to have PS Plus and still only play about one of the free offerings every 3-4 months. There is still a positive value if you’re looking at it as a whole year investment. I’ve only played OnRush and Papers, please from 2019 so far and have recently pulled up Transistor from the PS Plus backlog. I’ll get to The Witness eventually. So that’s still about $60-70 of game value just doing those. Not to mention $5-10 here and there I save from the PSN discounts. If I played all the free games every month I’d never leave the house.
Now if it went 3-4 months straight with nothing I had interest in playing either now or later from the backlog, then I’d be concerned. But honestly, I’m fine with this month’s games even though I’ll play neither (already played Edith Finch and adored it, and no interest in Overcooked). Statistically speaking there will be something for me in the next month or two.
@Boucho11 I've 'heard' about & been aware of plenty of them, what I wrote was that I haven't 'played' any of them.
The games are not as bad as people are making it out to be but I think the backlash is good. Maybe it will make Sony rethink their service and provide more for the fans. It's a win win situation I think. Let people complain as we stand to benefit from it.
I think i saw over at the ps blog they said "leave us you're comments on twitter etc. & tell us what you think!"...😆 euro Blog posts (which sony don't interact with), were close to 250 last I looked!
I don't have any gripes with may's lot (unlike April which i had zero desire to even look at).
I think it gets overlooked at which publishers want to get involved too. As I said on the Plus thread, never see rockstar (ps 2 classics back catalog, even though I own several), or capcom, & some like e.a. (loathe em or hate 'em!),only seem to put freebies on xbone...so choices are limited in the AAA stuff that some expect.
Still have stuff like scott pilgrim, beyond good & evil (ps3 obv.), alongside tranformers devastation & resogun in my plus back catalog too!
Ah yes, I'd obviously prefer games like For Honor, Modern Warfare and other 'AAA' games that are riddled with micro-transactions. These are great games with more heart than most big budget game from the last few years.
I actually think that I get good value from the service because of sales and other things. I rarely pay full price for renewal, and I use a lot of the “free” games and get a lot of discounts when I purchase new games from the store. And the games this month are good.
But, this community anger was always inevitable once the price went up and Vita and PS3 were removed. There was always going to be outrage the minute Sony gave away two smaller games, with many already seeing lost value for an increased price.
The surprise for me is that Sony has not done more to combat this. I thought for sure they would throw in an extra PS4 or VR monthly title, for PR or nothing else. I do not know if Sony is oblivious to how many are angry about Plus right now or if they don’t care. Either way, they are doing nothing to fix a pretty obvious perception problem with its fan base.
I think it's all about balance, last month was basically 2 triple A games, maybe if they gave one last month and one this it would have been better. They don't help themselves. I'm torn really, I expect more since they removed the PS3, Vita and upped the price, but I'll prob play these more than the potential triple A they would have given.
@Alex_Bevan I just dont have the time and the "good triple A" that everyone so desperately wants i own them. But lets be honest we had a lot of good games so i never understood why people keep saying that we dont get good stuff.
@DrClayman except it’s not free. You pay for it.
@Dodoo eh, schematics.
@smythelove What credit are looking for? They are not going to give you €5 or something otherwise it would be giving the sub for free. 😜
And i really think people think they pay so much its €5 a month. 😁
@Dodoo You pay a really small fee to be honest. I think people act like they pay a insane amount of money. 😂
When ps plus was optional on the ps3 it was worth it because of the games they had each month were pretty good, then when plus was mandatory on the ps4 for online gaming the service had some down hill moments at times but at least you still got ps3 and vita games, now there's the price hike and no ps3 or vita games it should really have a better selection of games imo. It's not like ps plus funds are keeping servers going.
As someone who doesn't play online much at all ps plus was still always good value to me because I had ps3 and vita now though I could probably just buy those games on sale for a similar price and be able to play them when my ps+ subscription lapses. I'm not outraged at the choices of games or the price it just isn't the service it used to be even in the ps3 days and it's less value for money now.
@Flaming_Kaiser Lol well the game worth maybe $5-10 if you already own the game.
This is so horrific the offerings.... I’m outraged.... imagine Nintendo only giving away two NES games away a month - it’s that level crazy....
All joking aside these are two decent games... it’s just how are these better titles that were promised when they ended ps3 and vita....
Sony just introduce BC system like Xbox and give us a couple of classics with the current gen 2 every month - ps1/2/3 any or a mix of all three and have that system move into the next gen. it’s possible. They just don’t wanna put the effort it takes to get the titles working. We know the way Xbox do it takes effort
Need to add a 3rd game. Either VR or new indie release
They give out one if the best games ever created. A master work that will bring anyone with a heart to tears and peope are doing this? ....... Ive lost hope in humanity
I guess my problem is I own a lot of the games that they put out for free. Maybe I should stop by Games and wait. Not going to do that!
After ditching PS3 and Vita titles I’d like to see the occasional PSVR title given
Most of this Negative hate is just people who don't own a PS4 anyway. The hate is still out there PlayStation Fans so be READY for next Gen as those haters will crawl out from under whatever they live under to hate on SONY and the PlayStation brand :-/
Let's face it, on the one hand we should be grateful for free games each month but on the other... with being down to only 2 games a month, the offerings should be way better than this. It was understandable when we were still getting PS3 and Vita games on top PS4 but there's no excuse for it now. Especially not for people like myself that only have Plus simply for the games, extra discounts and 10GB of online storage.
@LieutenantFatman I also miss Vita games.
Overcooked Is one of the most fun games you can play in co-op!
People keep saying these games are free, they're not. They're part of PS+, which if you want to play online you're forced to purchase.
Paying that much for online imo is too much since it used to be free and is for PC. Then they increase the price and reduce the games we're given each month as well, why would anyone be happy about that?
The SEA region is getting Metal Gear Survive & The Witness.
People are booming the SEA PS websites/pages specifically targeted Metal Gear Survive. Which many see this game as garbage/disgrace to MG franchise/a dead game giving out as free that nobody wanted, etc.
I do wish we are getting Overcooked instead of MG Survive.
excited for The Witness though.
On one hand, both of these games are excellent. On the other hand, we have lost the PS3 and Vita games that we used to get, without any real improvements in PSN or the free games we're offered. Outside of more cloud save space, which frankly doesn't matter all that much. I get the complaints. We aren't even getting a third PS4 game or a PSVR game.
Highs and lows like a wave; CoD and The Witness were the crest, these are the trough. All bangers all the time would spoil us, no?
Sony should give us opportunity to pick between 4 games (pick 2)!!!
That way, we could always get games that we don't already have and it would give us bigger amount (x2) of games to pick. Everyone's win that way!
Yes they deserve this and more.
@Flaming_Kaiser yes but the point I was making is it’s not free, you pay for it. The amount is irrelevant.
I get fed up with company’s marketing things like this saying they’re free and people actually believe it!
@Dodoo
"Free" in this context and in many other cases clearly means "at no additional cost". Everyone knows that. When you go to a club and you pay an entrance fee, you sometimes get a voucher for a "free" drink. If you visit a hotel, they offer free wifi, sometimes free massage or other "free" services. They are part of a package. I don't see anyone complaining about the usage of "free" in that context. Similarly, "free ps games" shouldn't be an issue either. It's simply how language works.
Whether these games are good enough or not is a complete different case. But calling them "free" is absolutely fine and consistent with how the word "free" is used in the English language.
@Jocinetu I don't think publishers would be ok with that.
I don't think the problem is AAA vs indie. I hardly ever play the blockbuster games from EA, Activision or Ubisoft, yet most PS+ stuff is still boring to me. They need to mix it up more.
Something indie like Darkest Dungeons or Undertale would be received much better. There are games like the Sword Art Online games, Tales of Zestiria, Dark Souls 2, Vampyr, and Disgaea 5 that aren't big budget smashes but still cover a wide variety of tastes and genres. It feels like 20% of PS+ games are walking sims, 50% are shooters, and 95% of them are made in NA or EU.
We don't have to get Assassin's Creed Origins and Uncharted 4, just more interesting and varied stuff.
@Dodoo It still stands that most of them are free. You pay £50 for about £1000 worth of games, so even if you want to ignore that the fee is for online play, you're still getting about £950 of free games. The problem is, if you don't want 95% of the games and don't play online, you might as well ignore PS+ and directly buy the couple of games you do want.
It seems to me that increasing the annual cost by 25% whilst reducing the number of free games by 48 (a 66% decrease) over the same period has upset their customer base.
It also appears that Sony genuinely don't really care whether people are dissatisfied or not as long as they've pocketed the cash.
I've been a full-on Sony fanboy for 23 years and even my brand loyalty is wavering.
They are both decent enough titles but it's hard to argue that they represent good value in comparison to for honor for example. That said I have plenty of my own games to play so use plus mostly hoping to get a good online multiplayer /coop to play with my brother. I already own overcooked so this month is of no use to me.
For me I don't see how this is still such a big problem to people. If u only subscribe for the free games then chancdes are over the course of your subscription you will have had value for your money over that period regards of months like this.
If you subscribe because u want to play online multiple then a free game is a free game. Something u wouldn't play under normal conditions.
So for me people should stop moaning about what they can't control or vote woth your wallets and stop paying.
I think it's a good lineup, as both are games that are highly regarded critically - I've had Overcooked for a long time and it is wonderful. But vocal players have always had the expectation that they'd get big retail titles more often than they do.
PS Plus' value is certainly debatable, especially for me, as I only occasionally play the 'free' games and only occasionally play online. However, I don't feel like the service has really decreased in value with the loss of PS3 and Vita titles. Yes I am technically getting less for the same amount of money but I won't pretend I ever played those games after getting a PS4, hell, I rarely even activated them on my account - the notable exception being Vita crossplay titles that looked fun, like Downwell.
The real truth is no lineup will ever make everyone happy. You could include BLOPS IIII in Plus and I would most likely never boot it up. I would probably activate it though
What Remains of Edith Finch is one of the best game experiences I’ve ever had in my 42 years of life. My 12 year old and her friend were enraptured, too. It’s worth your time!
FPS fanboys who expect bullets, bombs, bashing and blood may not play it long enough to get to the juicier, more twisted parts of Finch, but that’s their problem. Patience pays, pal! Besides, COD, Conan Exiles, and The Surge were recently featured freebies, and the gaming community needs exposure to true gems like Finch.
PS+ subscription is worth every penny.
@Arkham24601
PSVR titles sounds like a good idea, but they've sold what, a million or so of them? I don't know what the Plus subscripyion numbers are, but you're probably looking at like 5% of Plus subs actually owning VR at best.
Maybe free VR games entices people to consider adopting, but I'm not one of them.
They need to provide OPTIONS in the service going forward.
The number of games offered will no doubt go up again when PS5 arrives, probably 2 for each. But in the meantime, at least offer a couple of free HD movie rentals as an option each month as an alternative.
They could perhaps offer a mix-and-match of all of the services. Example:
2 Games + 2 HD movie rentals (any movies you like, not pre-selected or from a shortlist)
OR
A month of PS Now where available.
OR
A reasonable discount (25-50%) off the purchase of ANY one game on the store.
@DrClayman If you have to pay for the sub to access the game, then by definition the game isn't free. It's a rental that comes as a bonus with a paid sub.
@Juanalf @DrClayman You also get to permanently keep the 360 games even if your sub expires, unlike the PS+ offerings which are just rentals.
@Dodoo Its close too free if you look at it. Its €60 and still people expect a triple A every month. 😂
@Paranoimia We dont have that here in Europe and no i wont stand for it that the US gets a extra while Europe gets shafted. 😁
@Liberty____1st For Honor is maybe not the best example. 😜
@Flaming_Kaiser I'm not in the US either. 😎
But it is available here in the UK.
I just think they should be using all of the options at their disposal. I said way back when they announced PS3/Vita games would be getting withdrawn that there would be this reaction, and while it doesn't bother me personally, I honestly thought that they'd offer something else to try and placate people.
That said, I personally feel that it still offers decent value. It's just that with the PS3/Vita games, it offered exceptional value, and some people were always going to feel aggrieved, no matter how much advanced warning they were given.
@bindiana (Sorry to be that guy, but Gravity Rush was part of the IGC for two years from November 2012. It's for that reason that the PS4 remaster probably can't be offered as a separate entity.)
Overcooked is a good game but the problem is that the majority of gamers ignore indy titles and only want AAA-titles. In my opinion a lot of indy titles are way better than some AAA ones but that is only my opinion. But what I dislike: A few month ago we got 2-4 games for PS4 (cross buy VITA titles). There was almost always a good game in the list. This ended. So I hoped for 3 PS4 titles at least.
@Paranoimia No idea why they dont have it in the Netherlands then. But u think they should try something too.
What's funny is the massive advert for Xbox Game Pass next to the article.
@Sirtoby Ads are tailored to your search/browsing history, not everyone sees the same.
@Flaming_Kaiser Their roll-out of PS Now does seem strange and disjointed. I can understand why it may not be available in some places due to internet infrastructure etc., but Netherlands and other EU countries do seem to be strange omissions.
@Paranoimia Im certain something like that would be a selling point. If you drop it in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxemburg).
Another months worth of PS+ games that I won’t download. 😩
Two average at best, indie games! See you’ll fine most comments like this: “Do people really expect Sony to give us two AAA games each month?!!” I’m like: We are not asking for Red Dead Redemption 2 and God of War for May’s PS+ lineup! We are asking for AAA games that have been out for a few years. I’d be happy with The Order 1886 and Lego Marvel Super Heroes or games like Deus Ex, Killzone Shadow Fall, The Evil Within, (the great) Alien Isolation etc etc. We don’t have to get two of them, we could get say The Order 1886 and an indie game for May. My point is, we do want AAA games, but we’re not demanding AAA games that are under 2 years old.
Why can’t Sony give us a selection of say 20-30 games (most stay the same per month, with 2-4 changes per month) for us PS+ users to select 2 games from.
Overcooked and What Remains of Edith Finch may be great games, however the problems are as follows:
1 we were getting around 6 free games before they removed ps3 and ps Vita from the list. To add to this a little the yearly cost of gold for Xbox gold and ps+ are about the same yet Microsoft give their users 4 to 6 games a month(2 to 3 bimonthly)
2 Some of the dislikes they had were probably also due to the fact that ps+ Asia get 2 different games Metal Gear Survive and the Witness
3 not everyone may get into games like What Remains of Edith Finch or Overcooked and 2 free game isnt enough to remotely cover everyone's tastes well enough. I mean 4 to 6 games still might not cover everyone's tastes but 4 to 6 games is a start and has a chance to cover more tastes than just 2 games.
@Pull-R2 I don't know about 20-30 and pick 2 but I thought of couple similar ideas
But a selection with a pick 2 to 6 would be good. better than possibly having no free game for ps+ because you simply don't want either game they give for the month or already owning one or both games.
It's about consumer choice--you can choose to download 2 Indie games, or you can not. You can choose to pay 50 squids a month, just to play online, or you can not.
But we never got a choice about having to pay to play online, when ps3 was free, and we didn't get a choice about them dropping ps3 and vita titles. Nor did we get a choice when the price went up!
It is our choice to be able to voice our dissatisfaction, however, in the hopes that Sony will take note, and I can imagine, if they care about pr (they do!), we may get a pretty good selection in June by ways of apology. If people stayed silent, however, there'd probably be no change, and the company would be none the wiser!
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