Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 Needs 100GB Minimum of your PS4 Hard Drive

Big ol' nope!

And you thoughts cartridges were bad on size limitations.

Welcome to the modern era where Blu-Ray is obsolete and the next alternative is $83 for a pack of 5.

@get2sammyb PS3 was initially 25GB, on PS4 it's 50GB, and I expect we'll get UHD Blu-ray discs for next gen, at a 100GB, but they're already pushing that limit right now. COD doesn't even have a SP campaign. Games get bigger over time, sure, but this is ridiculous. There has to be no compression whatsoever, and I expect there's a lot of unused data being part of the 100GB file size. Sony is able to get their games under 50GB, many devs are able to, and they can if they really want it, without compromising the game experience, just by getting rid of all the unused models, textures, sound files, etc. Of course, that takes time and resources, and the big publishers have none of that; Cutting corners wherever they can.

And they want a digital-only future? That's the reason streaming is starting to pick up, you will have completed the game streaming it by the time your digital download is ready

Welp. Now I have to choose games differently. When games have similar storage sizes and release in the same time frame, I will only purchase the better game. Pressure is now on the developer to make a game that warrants my 60 bucks, but now also my HD space.

I'll just skip it. It's just another call of duty.

well that's a big old pile of NO THANK YOU, i uninstalled Star Wars Battlefront 2 because it was too big and that's smaller than these games are

@get2sammyb it wouldn't be really if it wasn't for the fact that consoles come with limited room for games, the smallest you get is 500gb that would mean you could only install 4 games if they continue to be that size

i understand about the 4k assets but they should be OPTIONAL downloads from the PS Store so those who want it can have it but those that don't want it don't have to have unusable assaets taking up room on their HDD, most gamers don't even have 4k TV's anyway so they really do just take up space and sometimes even make the game run worse EG: Final Fantasy XV, since the 4k assets were included the game has very noticeable texture and asset pop in that never used to be there on the base systems

Buying this games digitally is just insane, unless you have very fast and reliable internet.

@get2sammyb That is very true, but it begs the question, why would you have pre-rendered videos in a modern game? Hardly any game I know of does that. It's almost all in-engine these days.

PS5 better come w/ 2T standard.

For comparisons sake, 100GB on a 500GB base PS4 would be like 8GB on a 32GB Switch. This would need a lot of micro SD cards. If they ever do make a New Switch or Switch 2 that plays 4k games on tv - screen will never be 4k - where are they going to put it all?

Maybe the future will be streaming only /c we'll have no place to store the games?

ouch if you only have 500gb drive these 2 games and the os thats half the drive gone
thats before the patches etc

Yeah no trouble. I just wont buy blops 4. 100 gb saved right there.

Well, at least for read dead the base game is probably 70-75 gb at most. The rest will be for the online portion.

Wow that's insane , I wasn't interested or getting either game to begin with so that's a relief . I think the real question is about next Generation, assuming native 4K assets are going to be the norm . Hopefully 1TB is standard for PS5.

Welp I won't be buying these huge games till I get a pro and a 4tb hdd. Works for me, I have quite the backlog.

Up and up we go in terms of the file sizes.

I'm glad 90% of the games I like to play will never be anywhere near this large.

Developers really need to look into compressing more...maybe they already have, but geez, still that big compressed? I know Nintendo's games are nowhere near as big, but they compress even their biggest games, and they're rarely more than a few gigs in size (or in BOTW's case, about 13, and that's a pretty large game).

On another note, I don't think that "Best selling franchise" on the back of CoD boxes is actually earned anymore.

@HungryWolf I'm sure they'll open up pre-purchase soon, allowing you to download it before release.

@LaNooch1978 I can believe it. Those games are tiny by today's standards.

I agree with Sammy. No big deal. Broadband has gotten faster and games are constantly growing larger in size. However UHD 4K is limited by 100Gb and that's just for movies. Um... How do you fit a 100Gb game onto a 50Gb dual-layer Blu-ray?!

@Tasuki Well, don't I look dumb. Though I honestly don't know how it stays that way given there are so many better games out there, but I guess that's just my opinion.

@rjejr If you told me back in the GBA days that someday we'd have a portable game system capable of playing games at 720p, I would have laughed you out of the room, lol

So a 4K Switch way in the future isn't impossible

What's annoying about this is that assuming the game only comes on 1 disc, you still have to download at least another 50gb!

@get2sammyb no just that the 4k assets should be optional downloads so to not bog down storage space or impact the games for people that don't have the PS4 Pro (or other 4k machines)

@TeslaChippie "So a 4K Switch way in the future isn't impossible"

But it's just so unnecessary. I know Apple likes to sell products with made up names like Retina vision, but 1080p is really enough on a 7" screen.

Though.... I suppose a 10" Switch Pro might make a difference going form 1080p to 4k, but I'm not sure.

Or actually do we need a 4k screen for VR to function properly, 1080p per eye? So maybe a 4k screen but normal games and VR games only run in 1080p? Clearly I hadn't given this enough thought.

@get2sammyb well not that small games can't be good, just look at Dragon Ball FighterZ it's a great looking game with fantastic visuals and it's less than 5gb in size but i reckon games being around the 50gb size are to be expected now a days

@get2sammyb "Some of the comments on this article are so bizarre."

But the comment threads with all the Taylor Swift gifs are normal for a gaming website?

@rjejr Keep in mind that you have the exact same state of mind that people had back in the early 2000s. I don't know if you remember, but in the pre-iPhone days literally everyone was saying that HD screens in portable devices were excessive and unnecessary. But tech improves and tends to change minds

@get2sammyb i dont feel that way, i would just rather my hdd didnt have blops 4 on it. Im more than happy using 105gb for RDR2.

On the whole im not bothered about file sizes as i have a 1tb hdd, but it is an issue if you have to download big chunks from psn rather than from the disc (not saying thats the case in this instance as i dont know if thats the case, but it happens in many instances (like spyro 3 imminently)). For those downloading the whole thing its a massive expectation to download that much data too.

And many still have poor internet speeds which need to be considered if there is a mandatory download from the store even if you own the disc.

It was a bigger issue on vita of course because memory cards were so expensive that large downloads meant you really had to be disciplined about what you kept on your system. PS4 obviously doesnt have that problem.

And to think... when I was a lad, I had great games with awesome music, in less than 64Kb.

An external 1TB harddrive isn't that expensive--the cost of a good AAA title and well worth the investment.

I'm with @get2sammyb on this one. Who wants to go back in technology? It's always moving forward, so get off your iPhone 4 and step into the new world.

@TeslaChippie "But tech improves and tends to change minds"

I think it's more like marketing improves and tends to loosen wallets. Nobody needs half the stuff they buy.

I do think there are a lot of similarities between the Apple and Nintendo kool-aid, but Nintnedo tends to try to get by with last gen tech as much as possible. If Sony makes another handheld then we'll get 4k, but not on a Switch. When I put in that - I still meant no 4k on a Switch 2 or New Switch, I know other companies will make 4k handhelds, just not Nintedo. I probably could have been more clear about that part.

Well I just went from a "Nope" to a "Oh hell no".

100gb and it's missing an actual game? I'm joking.... kind of. In any case I don't see the problem as I won't hesitate to create that space for Red Dead Redemption 2, not to mention Doom was nearly this big 2 years ago

Damn, I could see Red Dead being that large but CoD? It doesn't even have a campaign mode where you'd think most CGI stuff would be.

@Ryu_Niiyama
That’s what I’ve got it’s perfect for me, luckily I’ve got virgins 200mb broadband otherwise who knows when a game like that would be ready to play.

I have a 2TB internal drive, and an external 4TB drive. Both are almost full.

2 games i wont play anyway. 😉

“Outrageous! Pre-order cancelled!” Oh sorry, I seem to have misspelled “boo-hoo, who cares?”

How many games does anyone play at one time that this is seriously being considered as a big deal? I honestly don’t get it. Be glad the games are getting better - RDR2 is about to be the biggest one of the generation. If it takes a 100GB of my HDD...WHO CARES?

Currently a physical copy of COD WW2 is not playable in single player until a mandatory 34.60GB app update is downloaded. Total game size is then about 82GB.
Dead Island Riptide purchased from the store is only 6.92GB but requires mandatory PSN connection for off line single player.

My issue is not the size but that COD WW2 can not be played at all with only the game disc and a PS4 console. Riptide is on the hdd of my PS4 but can not be played in single player unless i am signed into my PSN account that requires connection to the internet.

Size is no issue to me as i can purchase a larger hdd if needed. However i do not want mandatory downloads, PSN connection, and or internet connection to use software off line i have purchased in either physical or downloaded copies.

@get2sammyb probably because some people don't wanna buy half a game on disc and have forced downloads of 50+ gb. Some people may not be as lucky as others also have data caps as well which will probably take a long time to download as opposed to install.

That's 10% of my data cap with Comcast

This is getting ridiculous. Having to constantly delete games from my HDD is a pain, especially since we have redownload patches. Why is it games that are massive in scale such as Dark Souls III can achieve 20GB, while this and RDR2 are 5x the size?

@DMG361132 I'm only exaggerating about it being the same, but I personally don't like shooters. I get motion sickness playing them.