As we've known for some time now, Microsoft no longer publicly shares Xbox One sales figures. Meanwhile, Sony's been more than happy to spread word of the PlayStation 4's success on numerous occasions, with the company's most recent statement claiming that the current-gen console has moved close to 80 million units.
It's always been clear that the Xbox One is lagging behind its direct competition, with estimations putting Microsoft's console below half of what the PS4 has sold -- and now it's looking like those estimations have been fairly accurate.
According to fresh data from mega publisher EA, Xbox One sales sat around the 30 million mark by the end of 2017. Going by this information, it's reasonably safe to assume that the PS4 is ahead by a substantial 50 million or so units. That's the kind of gap that's unlikely be closed within an entire generation -- nevermind the last few years of one.
Of course, this apparent gap in console sales doesn't tell the whole story -- both Sony and Microsoft make profit in countless different ways. Still, this generation has proven to be quite the role reversal. It's easy to forget that not too long ago, the PS3 was playing catch up with the Xbox 360 following Sony's decidedly poor launch.
Interestingly, Microsoft has since stated that EA's data is inaccurate, but the company is yet to produce any of its own figures. As such, we have no way of knowing just how inaccurate the data supposedly is. Based on what we know, though, we're going to assume that EA's information isn't too far removed from the truth.
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I thought it was at least 35m by last year. Thats the way it seemed to be trailing anyway. Its definitely half at most but I dont think its that low as that...kinda means its only grown a few million in two years. Doesnt seem right.
EA seems to like 30m as a number. Thats also how many they said they expect Switch to sell by end of the year.
Im sensing a theme
Yeah MS denies it but won't release it's own figures saying their focusing on "player engagement" instead. Blimey that company spins more times then Crash Bandicoot. So if you don't mind I'll take these numbers as gospel till I'm proving otherwise.
yeah, but, xboys been playing a billion hours of SINGLE PLAYER b/c games.
@Sunnyviji No No it's not anymore single player games for them it's now one and done games even though most of them are dying to have a game like god of war on Xbox.
@Spectra
https://www.vg247.com/2018/04/26/switch-sales-over-17m-units-breath-of-the-wild/
Heres your answer on switch sales
I know the PS4 is winning, but I don’t know I believe this much. I mean, I feel it’s be at least 40M. I still hear about a lot of people buying Xbox’s. (Why is anyone’s guess though considering they have no exclusives and the last Halo was a failure.)
Microsoft should have built the Xbox One less reliably to boost the console’s sales potential
Its possible that MS consoles were stagnating in sales up to Nov 2017.It did see a resurgence in sales with the launch of the Slim but as soon as Sony launched the Pro, Sony's sales went back to dominating the sales chart. Apart from the 4k HDR Bluray, the Slim - despite a marginal boost was also still not delivering games to the same standard as a base PS4 and its 'biggest' selling point was the 4k HDR bluray - yet games fell short of full HD. It seems better for those families where they wanted a 4k Bluray player and gaming as a secondary 'bonus' - still bought one (the Gears 4 custom edition as my OG XB1 had disc drive issues).
Then in March 2017, Nintendo launched the Switch - which has gone on to sell around a third+ of the consoles that MS has (alledged) sold in 4yrs in just a year.
So not only has MS been at the bottom (in terms of game performance) of the 'powerful' consoles, its also had Nintendo's resurgence with a 'unique Selling point' console too to compete with. Not only that, throughout 2017, the looming launch of the 'X' has been a constant shadow - maybe putting people off of buying the 'S' to wait for the 'X'.
Games can play a big role too and in 2017, it was quite quiet from MS. Of course they had games like FH3 and Gears 4 that launched late in 2016 as well as games like Halo Wars 2, Cuphead, PUBG, FM7, Fable Fortune, Super Lucky's Tale as well as Voodoo Vince & Phantom Dust remasters and the definitive ReCore BUT apart from a couple, they are hardly 'system sellers' - not compared to games like Zelda and Mario on the Switch and H:ZD, Uncharted: Lost Legacy and the plethora of 'Japanese' titles Nioh, Nier, Persona 5 etc.
Its no wonder that MS have 'struggled' although the X is supposed to be outselling the Pro so maybe they can 'improve' their position as more and more join the 4k market. 2018 hasn't got off to the best start first party games wise with Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 seemingly divisive and Crackdown 3 still awaited after the disaster at Gamescom for that title. MS's reluctance now to tell us what we can expect more 'long term' has only made their line-up seem even more shallow. We know what games we can expect from Sony in the next year+ but with MS we are left 'guessing' - some more educated guesses like more Forza, Halo and Gears but nothing 'officially' announced.
Anyway, the point is, its quite easy to see why sales may not have progressed much during 2017 - not only did Sony have technically superior hardware for gaming - let alone more exclusives too, Nintendo launched the Switch and potential customers may also have been waiting to see if the X would live up to its reveal...
MS says that this data is innacurate, so show your numbers then, lol. That's what happens when you don't have exclusives.
Phil SPINcer is all talk and no action.
That's insane honestly. That gap is huge . All hail PlayStation 😉
Congratulations to Sony, their success this generation is well-deserved, but I won't celebrate another console doing badly. Competition is healthy. I hope XboxONE owners aren't regretting their purchases and still finding things to play.
people play games not hardware, and playstation has the best games in market
@RogerRoger
I'm a Xbox owner and i have more then enough to play. Between Xbox, PlayStation and Switch i have more than enough to play.
Honestly, it's not surprising. What does Xbox have to offer that Sony isn't doing better? Certainly not games. If 30 mil is accurate, XB1 has barely sold twice as much as Wii-U.
@Neolit and you know what it's not even true backwards compatibility because you can't play ANY XB or 360 games if your system is offline and you only have access to the games that they licence
while you can play games you already own at no extra cost, because of the online requirement it's not really that great of a service for example my XB1's WiFi doesn't work properly (and no i can't connect it to a wired connection) so for me it's a service that's not very viable
and it wouldn't be that much of an issue if any of my old xboxs still worked but they don't, 4 OG xbox's with disc drives that don't work anymore and 3 360's one with a broken disc drive, one RROD and one with a black screen of death
at least if i want to play a PS3 game i can just play my PS3
I bet about 30% of those Xbox One units are collecting dust at GameStop waiting for a new owner that's never coming...
@Neolit from what i remember reading it counted all sales so that includes people buying multiple console, you could probably take a few million off the final 360 sales figures for replacement systems people brought
and yeah the 360 was a great system but as you said it's build quality wasn't good
PS4 is the casuals new favourite for sure
I don't own an xbox, but I really hope they'll sale better and that they're profitable, cause if they'll drop out of console business it'll do bad for everyone. Many estimated that the consoles will fade out in this generations, and I'm so glad estimations were wrong so far, because the mobile gaming alternative is so much worse, and not really because of the hardware differences. So I hope the 3 console companies will do well. Going to buy Switch this week, so heck, maybe I'll even buy an xbox X next month to benefit from the better graphics.
@FullbringIchigo My xbox one has a messed up connection too. If I want to use internet I have to use an ethernet cable. It's really frustrating
In other news...the sky is blue and the earth is round
@MAntonioLimon i can't use a cable unfortunately, i have no way to get one to my room
i'm still not sure what the issue is though after all every other device i have works fine so i don't think it's the router that's the problem
@AFCC unless your a Flat Earther
@Eran Consoles are still alive thanks to Sony and now Nintendo, because MS really doesn't care about this market anymore. They are pushing GaaS, microtransactions, not releasing exclusives for xbox (everything is also available on pc). How is that helpful to the console market? Now the xbox crew love to spread that exclusives are not important and that single-players are struggling. I'm really glad that Sony is not listening to these clowns.
With all these practices, MS really deserves the low sales. Sony is always investing on exclusives and single-player games, that's why I really praise them for that.
Nobody wants a monopoly, but it's also really naive to want MS to succeed with all these practices.
Single-player games are obsolete?
GaaS is the future?
Exclusives are not important?
They can GTFO the console market, let another company be part of the big 3.
@adf86 But, but, but exclusives are not important and game pass will help single-player games to succeed!!!
@FullbringIchigo cringing
Minor grammatical quibble — “the company HAS yet to produce”.
@NoxAeturnus Besides backwards compatiblity, nothing really.
@AFCC
I bought an XBox One and then returned it the next day (thanks, announcement of Killer Instinct on PC!)...does that count as a sale?
@Jaz007 The people I know with an X1 have it because they're already firmly invested in the brand from the last generation (although a good number have made a complete transition to PS4). They also coincidentally lean to the right, politically, so I'm sure nationalism plays a part too (just an observation).
My good buddy is also thinking about jumping to X1 because of RDR (I think he's gotten cold feet, tho). Personally, I was waiting for MS to give me a reason to buy an X1, but they continue to just sit on their IPs and drip-feed us mediocre exclusives. Boooo!!!
That's... pretty bad.
Not surprised, though. What reason is there to purchase an Xbox One? PS4 is cheap, more powerful (than the base version of the Xbone, at least), and has access to scores of highly-rated exclusives. Whereas Xbox barely even has exclusives at this point.
Looks like Switch will outsell the Xbone at some point between years 2 and 3. I'll lean closer to year 2 if we get an exciting-looking Pokemon game in 2018, but I don't see that happening.
@DLB3
Yeah, last thing we should want is any company monopolizing the market. Sony running and hiding from the competition is why so many mistakes were made early with PS3. The PS4 had to be good because Sony was playing catch up for a lot of the previous gen.
@smelly_jr yes it still counts IF you brought it new that is
I bought my Xbox One about a year after it launched. I don't regret it. I have plenty of games for it. I care more about gamerscore than trophies so I get all multiplatform games I want on that. I got my PS4 at the end of 2016 when I saw there was nothing coming for exclusives for Xbox in 2017. That's all I use my PS4 for is exclusives which luckily there's plenty. But either way, I don't really care how many it sold. I've enjoyed it. I much prefer it over Ps4 for using YouTube, Netflix, and watching Bluray too.
@ShadowWarrior Not sure what I did to upset you, but let's watch the personal attacks. Thanks.
The only reason the Xbox did well last Gen was because Xbox owners had to buy 2 or 3 Xboxes because of RRoD. Maybe they should have included it in the Xbox ONE to
I bought a second hand Xbox one a while back.
Hated pretty much everything about it, other than the Controller (which is far better than the PS4's).
The dashboard/firmware was a complete mess, couldn't find a dam thing.
The console was huge and ugly, and there was little to no content that I couldn't purchase for the ps4.
Although I was really peed off with Square Enix, I bought it to play Rise of the Tomb Raider and sold it straight afterwards.
After playing ROTTR again on PS4 (when it eventually released), the Controller lag on Xbox was shockingly bad and very noticable compared to the ps4 version. Although I think the issue was directly linked to the game rather than the Xbox experience itself.
Microsoft are way behind the competition in my opinion, they either need to invest heavily in game studios or hang their boots up.
Even with the Xbox One X being the 'most powerful console on the market', I have literally no reason to even consider picking up the console, hell I've more reason to buy a Switch, at least that has a couple of exclusives that interest me BOTW and Mario Oddysey.
X1 lost the race during its launch reveal...
MS have done absolutely ZERO to win me back as a consumer and Sony have done lots to keep me.
Well done to Sony (and Nintendo) for keeping me entertained with games I find interesting and fun. MS you lost the plot the second Kinect became a thing...
in other news, the earth orbits the sun... i've never owned and will never own an xbox, but i don't really care what has sold more. for most of the last gen, PS3 was last of 'the big three'.. so long as it sells enough for companies to make games for it does it really matter?
anyway, i think microsoft's mid-term aim is to unite console and PC gamers under the xbox (or xbox live) brand, though it's going to be a tough ask to get large numbers of PC gamers to move from steam to the windows store or xbox marketplace. combining the totals would give a significant boost to the active monthly player metric or whatever statistic they're using instead of sales figures these days.
i don't think it's likely that sony will repeat its PS3 mistakes or microsoft's XB1 mistakes, and as long as it glances enviously at the steam model and the revenue that makes it can't be too complacent. it's no coincidence that it's been adopting quite a few of those practices during the PS4 era.
@FullbringIchigo that gif with your profile photo/gif doesn't convince me you're being honest in your apology!
This doesn't really benefit the consumer, unless Microsoft sort themselves out and start providing genuine competition for Sony.
@Neolit I had the first fat ps3 with the ps2 chip inside. 12 months in still just in its warranty my ps3 died. Sony gave me two options. A replacement ps3 or have my ps3 repaired which would take several weeks. Back then I couldn't be without playing it so I made the wrong choice and chose replacement. What they have me was the fat model without the ps2 chip.
When my second 360 died, both out of warranty. That was it for me, I wasn't going out to buy another. Many people did especially xbox fans but if you bought the same model of car which both had engine failures, you wouldn't buy that model of car again
@Dodoo
2006 called they want the argument back
I do not want to see Microsoft fail and don't see selling 35 million of anything as a fail. Microsoft problem is Microsoft! I think they listen to much to vocal minority on the internet. That whole chasing multiplayer only games, backwards compatibility, few big first party games, Big price point hardware.
I have always looked for Xbox to get 5-10 games I wanted, not on PS4 to make me buy one. That never happened at all and its been 5 years!. I cant see paying the price of a console for 3-4 games.
At this point they have to get it right next gen. They have to show Xbox brand is smarter, better, and strong again. Xbox for the gamer in you!
@ShadowWarrior haha they can have it!
@Dodoo I totally agree with you, I was just.about to put down my money on the Xbox One the they said always online, kinect which made the Xbox One a $100 more then the PS4 for an accessory I would never use. That fiasco saved me from making a big mistake.
@ShadowWarrior This is your second warning now let's cool it with the obvious trolling. If you want to add to the conversation that's fine but quit trying to antagonize other users.
@Tasuki
Yet always online was scraped and kinect is in the trash where it belongs so wheres your excuses now
@ShadowWarrior The fact that Xbox has nothing that I can't play or already have on PS4. I am not big on Halo and don't care about Gears. Backwards compatiblity means nothing for me because I have my 360 and original Xbox still.
None of this is surprising.
To be honest, Xbox One had an uphill struggle before it was even announced because Xbox, traditionally, only really thrives in one territory. PlayStation is strong everywhere. Then they announced Xbox One and made a total pig's breakfast of it and they still haven't recovered. So here we are.
Perhaps how outrageous these numbers are might surprise Americans more than Europeans, because Xbox sells well over there. NPD data shows PS4 winning, but not by a total landslide. In some territories in Europe PS4 is outselling Xbox One at 7:1.
None of this is likely ever going to change until there's a compelling reason to buy an Xbox over a PlayStation, and currently there isn't. I don't mean this generation, by the way. This generation is over and has been for years. I mean with the next console iterations. The same thing will happen unless Microsoft comes up with a legitimate reason to buy an Xbox over a PlayStation. i.e. Make some games.
It's a shame with MS - I much prefer the XBO controller and the Xbox One X is an absolute monster of a machine that I would love to own with my 4k TV, but PS4 just has all the games I want to play, many of which you just can't get on Xbox. All this could easily change with the next generation, but it depends on which direction MS decides to go, I guess. The PC-like games as a service approach is great for some gamers but it's not something that I'm especially interested in, personally - so when they say they're focusing on the experience, it just does nothing for me.
Lol...okay.
I'm honestly not surprised. I could count on one hand the amount of XB1 exclusives worth playing in my opinion.
However I probably will still buy a XB1 eventually, if they're selling the 1TB Slims for dirt cheap during BF/Holiday 2018.
So that would put the current situation at somewhere around...
PS4: 80+ million
2DS + 3DS: 72.5 million
Xbox One: 30+ million (if the EA estimate is accurate)
NS: 17.8 million
PS Vita: around 15 million?
Wii U: 13.5 million
I have to admit, I own all 3 consoles, but I usually always look to purchasing a game (one that would be on both) for PS4 first, but only because I've gone with Sony since the PS2 (been with nintendo and sega before then). The Xbox one gets played a little (ori and the blinded forest, zoo tycoon and rare replay are the only ones) but for some reason, it's the main screen that has me confused, basically with still trying to figure it out after a year of owning it. Unfortunately, I hated the 360 (due to the errors I've had with 2 of them) but I only liked the original XBOX for the dreamcast games that got moved over. The thing I notice with Xbox is that they don't keep many of the same IP's over a generation. Blinx, Voodoo Vince, Tork, Fusion Frenzy, Amped, Project Gotham, Rallisport Challenge, Viva Piñata and their sports franchise, they seem to quit even trying with them, where Sony and Nintendo keep their IP's going. Anyways, I guess I'm still wondering on if Atari is still going with the Ataribox, and if the rumors are true that Sega is in development with a new console (not a mini). Other than all of this, it would be nice to see Sony and Nintendo battle it out once again, and it seems like it may happen with the PS4 and Switch (granted the switch is underpowered).
@PS_Nation
"Nobody wants a monopoly, but it's also really naive to want MS to succeed with all these practices.
Single-player games are obsolete?
GaaS is the future?
Exclusives are not important?
They can GTFO the console market, let another company be part of the big 3."
IMHO that's 101% correct and they already won with:
Paid online service;
PC architecture;
Bro 'empty' gaming;
DLC & micro-transactions;
Hopefully, nobody at MS understands basic business and marketing practices and strategies or they will approach the next gen with an under-cost device, around £100/$100/100€ less than PS5, as that is the ONLY way to market a multi-platform games only console. This won't make game consoles cheaper, this will mean companies will have to cut budget of other projects such as exclusives games.
No way is xbox still at 30 with PS at 80. Xbox will be at 35 now and PS is at 80, so that's 45 million ahead. The PS user base is now more than twice the size of xbox. It's falling back, not reducing the gap.
MS need to focus on games, but great games that could be considered a masterpiece take a talented studio 4 years to make, so that's not going to happen this gen. MS have been sleeping on the job in that department trying to fix the lame hardware with an XB1X update.
Right now xbox gamers have no future. They are all just reliving the 360 good old days of the past, because they have no epic new games worth playing. Plus the multiplayer servers are probably barren due to the low user base, hence the reason why MS was pushing for crossplay to join Sony's party.
The XB1S is still underpowered for gaming compared to the similarly priced base PS4. so limited sales there. Only a fool would buy a 'future proof' XB1X with the powerful next gen PS5 and XB2 just 2 years away. The PS4 Pro is still worth buying because it's offering graphics very close to an XB1X at $100 less.
One thing is for sure, the PS5 needs to be backwards compatible with PS4 Pro games, because the graphical quality of Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, God Of War, AC Origins and Far Cry 5 have past the threshold where they will now age well and not require a remaster. No more Lara with square fists lol.
For the first time in history on any platform, I will not be dumping the previous console gen and saying "it was great but good riddance.' I will still want to replay those games after my PS4 Pro hardware eventually dies. Let's hope AMD have made the Zen based Ryzen CPU architecture, 100% backwards compatible with Jaguar.
Sony need it for their gamers. Not only to make the jump to PS5 more attractive and guarantee success, but also for PS5 gamers who have not played those games and want to give them a try. The graphical quality has reached CGI Toy Story quality so just like classic movies, they can now be sold into the next gen and become timeless classics.
i had to send my xbox 360 in for service 5 times for the rrod. So that was it for me, i now own a base ps4 and a pro and couldnt be happier, and i dont need b/c cuz my 6 year old ps3 still works perfectly. Xbox just sucks really bad compared to ps, i will never buy an xbox again
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