Out Today: Lara Croft Returns to PS4 in Rise of the Tomb Raider

Im playing the spanish version so really can't agree with cringe inducing voice acting...

Considering all of the "Pro" enhancements they put into this game I'm kind of surprised they bothered to release it a full month before Pro launches.

http://www.vg247.com/2016/09/15/free-from-the-shackles-of-xbox-one-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-is-doing-incredible-things-with-ps4-pro/

This seems like THE game to make the argument that even if you don't have a 4k TV w/ HDR, Pro still works wonders on a 1080p TV.

There's a lot that this game does that would've been welcome in UC a long time ago. Combat is better in every aspect, from the AI to your options of how to tackle every situation. The metroidvania style maps give you a reason to go back and explore....oh it's not linear, either. Needless to say, if you go in expecting a story heavy, linear cover shooter like uncharted, this isn't what you're going to get.

Already preordered the artbook edition, there's only region 2 version though. I hope all the dlc is on disc and not on psn since I already delete my reg.2 account on my ps4.

I want to see the difference option on graphics on ps4 pro later and the vr mission on thursday

Can't wait to pick up this game after work, so hyped for it.

Thanks for the link @rjejr I hope more developers adopt this attitude- it's another reason I'll be going Pro before I can afford a 4k tv

@get2sammyb Depends on the implication and implementation of "linear". I thought Knack should have been much more open world and not so corridor driven. And no camera control on a PS4 game? Meanwhile, I won't turn that optional "star" off in Ni No Kuni. I go off wandering on my own sometimes, but at 65 hours in I can't imagine how long that game would take trying to figure all of those spots out on my own, probably triple that, near 200 hours. Games should do both, guide you, yet let you roam.

More on topic, I liked the TR reboot on PS3 better than Uncharted 1 or 3, and it was close to 2, so I'm looking forward to comparing U4 and RotTR after Christmas.

@Mergatro1d Your welcome. It will be awhile before my wife lets us buy a 4k tv, she already thought our 52" tv was too big when we bought that a few years back, but I still may go for the Pro.

It's a great game and I plan on getting it for PS4 just not right now. I have all ready played it on PC.

I'm with @Napples on the combat being better in TR than Uncharted. As a whole I like UC better but the "freedom" TR gives you gameplay wise is really great.

@JoeBlogs The problem with open world games is travelling between places is just boring, with uncharted series there's no wasted times between action, it's always filled with something meaningfull with either action or story bits.

Also yes, why pick sides when we can have both

Just come back from town after picking this game up,I've more or less avoided seeing any videos on this so can't wait to try it bad voice acting or not.Always been a huge fan of Miss Croft since her first adventure and as much as I like Uncharted..I think Nathan Drake talks too much

@JoeBlogs See, Naughty Dog's game design makes Uncharted feel more like a rollercoaster than a journey: I'm on rails from start to finish and can't really engage with the game as a result.

Another comparison: imagine going to a city you've never been to before. Playing Uncharted feels like a guided tour through big tourist spots and famous landmarks. It's paced well, gives you a good view of a lot of things, but at the end of the day, you're left with barely more of a sense that you really saw what the city has to offer than before the tour. It's safe, pedestrian, and utterly unexciting.

A game doesn't really need to be open-world to avoid this. Take something like Final Fantasy VII during the first disc. The game intelligently walls off certain game progression routes so that you can't stray too far from the main story early on. Nevertheless, it allows you enough freedom to feel like you're actually exploring your environment. It gives you the illusion of freedom, unlike a game like Final Fantasy XIII, which dispensed with illusions and just funneled you down hallways until later parts of the game.

Uncharted feels a lot like Final Fantasy XIII to me. It's pretty and polished, but I feel like the game designers are constantly looming over me, waiting to rip control back out of my hands so that I can't muss up their pretty game. As a result, when I play Uncharted or FFXIII, I feel like I'm touring pretty video game environments, but I never really engage with the game in a meaningful way.

Will be picking it up...just don't know when

@get2sammyb Well, TLG and FFXV have been due out for about 8 and 10 years now respectively, so I'm doing much better than they are. It's the delay gen after all.

Christmas though, seriously I already bought my PS+ card and everything.
I will never get a PSVR though. When my kids get PSVR 2 on PS5 maybe I'll play on theirs. Maybe.

I played this through on the Xbox One and it is a very good game however, I preferred the first reboot. Saving my copy to play on the Pro at 4k.

I wasn't going to pick this up but a mistake in my local Tesco meant that I got it for £32 and I'm loving it so far. Now for the inevitable Uncharted comparison, it's clear this has taken some inspiration from that series and especially in it's set pieces and slightly ridiculous climbing mechanics. However it does seem that the game is going to be much more about exploration and much less story driven/linear than Uncharted, with each game forging a slightly different path. For now though I'm going to do a slightly odd thing and turn it off until my PS4 pro arrives so that I can play through it in nice shiny 4K or at least a variant of it

@JoeBlogs I agree. I definitely don't want games to be the same. And, in fairness, Uncharted doesn't necessarily need to feel like a journey. It's an interactive action movie, and the linear design could be said to enhance the pacing of the game so that there isn't too much down-time between action scenes. The heavy reliance on setpieces also really suits Uncharted as an interactive action movie, as most action movies are centered around explosive, exciting setpieces. I didn't find the first three games to be terribly compelling, but I'd be lying if I said that they didn't have their fun moments where the game came together for me. I haven't played UC4 yet, but I'm glad ND opened up certain sections of the game a bit.

TLOU didn't work nearly as well for me with that same basic game design philosophy, though. I'm hoping TLOU 2 opens up the game and allows for more meaningful interactivity with the in-game world.

@JoeBlogs Revenge stories never work in open world game, how many civilian that's "accidently" die because of the protagonist, do their families will seek revenge on the protagonist too?

The only open world games that I can stand is super hero games like the first prototype or infamous series, that's because travelling in those games is super fun, jumping through building or flying between building is great. And their story goes hand in hand with the game, the story in infamous 2nd son is delsin vs dup, all the mission in the game is all about how delsin can weaken dup, there's no filler like in most gta games.

@Wazeddie22 But nathan drake is fun while lara is just too miserable in her adventure

I want my Collectors Edition but it is delayed to 20 oktober.

VR mode - so would this game be playable in stereoscopic 3D? I remember playing Uncharted 3 on PS3 in 3D, neat experience.

After waiting almost a year for this game to come out on PS4 I got a gaming PC last month and decided to buy it on that instead since it was cheap and would look/run better.
I loved the last game so much (Even more than Bioshock and The Last of Us, which I think came out the same year) but I'm really struggling to get excited by the sequel and keep playing it... Possibly it's because my hype for it was ruined in the wait. I guess it wasn't going to have as much impact as the reboot too.

My stance on the game hasn't changed. I've waited 1 year, I'll wait another 6 months & pick this up dirt cheap preowned.

I'd be surprised if Rise breaks into the UK top 3.

@wiiware @get2sammyb ok,yeah you are both right.Played over an hour so far and absolutely loving it..but who is she talking too??Do normal people really talk to themselves like that?Or does she know she's in a videogame and people are watching her?..and yeah she's not exactly a barrel of laughs like Nate..
Great game though!

Bring back Keeley Hawes I say.

Still recommend to anybody who hasn't played it because if I'm putting together a top 5 of PS4 games this one would sit right near the top. I think what this game (and the 2013 reboot) does better than most is combine linear and open-world game play.

Only just started it but already very impressed - I like the direction of the new TR reboot even if it does borrow a fair bit from Uncharted. Lara remains a great character and the environments already seem vastly improved from the first game. Really like the mix between survival focus in a harsh environment and then the set-pieces of exploring tombs, great stuff.

@get2sammyb I thought the voice-actor was from the UK? I wasn't aware her accent was so poor... I'm a poor spotter for such tings being across the pond myself.
I enjoy the new TR series, though the shaky-cam stuff can be tiresome. Tired of it in the movies too.