Bethesda Speaks Out: Sony Will Not Allow Fallout 4 or Skyrim Mods on PS4

Did sony gave them reason on why mods in os4 is a bad idea?

Not a fan of Bethesda's games, but this really is a shame.

@AlejandroMora Most likely, but I doubt Bethesda can say what it actually is.

Worth at least wondering why Sony is against this. Maybe mods are broken on PS4? Impossible to say, though with Bethesda's track record, I wouldn't be surprised. Still, I wish we had more information.

@AlejandroMora @ShogunRok probably has something to with HOW the mods are done, maybe it created or showed a vulnerability in the PS4 system security?

Well this sucks. The promise of mods was the only reason I kept my copy of Fallout 4. Just as disappointing as the game itself.

@FullbringIchigo Could be, I suppose, but it's still a hard decision to defend. Mods work (reasonably) well on Xbox One, so it looks bad for Sony.

The funny thing is, in previous generations, PlayStation has been really open towards user made content, while Xbox has always said no. How times change!

4 the Players

Oh for ..........
imma find a Melon and crush it.....

Even Microsoft realized blocking everything helped Apple

Sony your getting 2 big 4 your boots.

Eats my Hypocritical humble pie.....

Not surprising to me, Pete Hines' Twitter seemed to get more and more pessimistic the more the subject came up.

PC master race cough
I was looking forward to lightsabers, but oh well, I'll just have to vanilla RP the hell out of them both. ...I kind of like the idea of a version that looks way better but (hopefully) we won't have [m]any issues with. Still disappointing!

Obviously Sony wants certain restrictions in place to safe guard there customers which Bethesda cannot guarantee, who wants a bricked console after downloading a funny mod.

Greatness Denied?

You know, with this no mods allowed, lack of backwards compatibility, and all these remasters to make up for backwards compatibility, I'm glad I decided to build a PC instead of going with a PS4 or Xbox One.

I don't really like Fallout 4 or Skyrim...but Sony is going full dumb...like really dumb! The PS4 Pro and now this...lol wtf are you doing?

The mods are really great to use
Especially since in the original, most of the elves were ugly.

I was really looking forward to trying some mods for those games that my PC can't run like Fallout 4, I know how much fun the mods for 3 and NV are and how much extra playtime they add. This sucks. Bad move, Sony.

This is unacceptable. The recent news about further payments on the Pro doesn't help either. What were they thinking?

Edit: Payments for (HDR) patches on the Pro seems to be false. I take that back.

Sony :- "hey there, where's my fog?"
Bethesda :- "dissipated, you'll never see fog again, how about mods DLC?"
Sony :- 'walks away'

Mods can allows backdoor access to account security you are editing the source code to the game at the end of the day. I don't have a short memory but I do know Sony got their arses torn apart 6 years ago over poor security and now they are bring sensible good on them

This is gonna blow up hard on Sony. Fans won't accept at all

I feel like it is all doom and gloom this gen for me, I loved my PS3 last gen, no online subs so plus was both optional and good, indies were treated well and the gamer was put first. Of course Sony were in second place for most of last gen so they had to be nice to us. Now we pay for online, have things like EA Access denied to us, Plus is a shadow of its former self, a mid gen more powerful console launch and now apparently we will be denied mod support because 'reasons' (most probably because Sony will state they won't be able to go through their rigorous testing procedure to make sure people get a working product, you know just like NMS, AC:U and all those other finished releases).

Knew I should have stuck with my policy of always going for consoles that aren't the market leader.

good chance i wont buy it now. i played the hell out of skyrim and completed it multiple times back on ps3. i was REALLY excited for the mods. and ive been waiting for FO4 mods since i bought it day one. WTH sony! am i crazy or were we told that there would be mods for ps4? false advertising much?

Man, first EA Access, then backward comp, now this. Seems that Sony will now have to deal with a huge load of hate from the fanbase and, because as of right now, since 2014, Sony has been doing nothing for the players, and I can see the Xbox One now in the lead. This clearly shows that while Microsoft is trying to do what the fans want, Sony is busy being ignorant trolls while bathing in their pool of money. Sony has officially lost faith with its fans, and unless they do something to satisfy the fans, the Xbox One will be in the point on taking the Ps4's throne.

Bethesda in my opinion have dropped the ball. The company were promising gamers this but have not delivered. At the start they would have know the terms Sony sets and have not met them. Now they are trying to make Sony look like the bad guy. If they were not going to deliver this feature they should not have brought it up.

@soulsBourne128 death threats are not funny they are sick.

i have never played skyrim i'm still gonna try it i guess but this is sad

@ShogunRok There's mods on xbox one?

@dryrain They are doing anything BUT for the players. So many bad decisions they had done since 2014, not to mention the Ps4's game library is still not quite as great as the PS3'S library, mostly when it comes to the exclusives. And while it may be possible that it was Bethesda's fault, they clearly said that they were actually looking forward on releasing the mods on the Ps4 "as humanly possible".

Sony seems to be repeating the same ignorance back in 2006. Even then, atleast in the last generation, while Sony was trailing behind, they atleast were more responsive than Microsoft sitting on their asses, thinking of what other Halo, Gears or Forza game they could think off. Now, Sony is doing what Microsoft has been doing since 2009 but FAR WORSE.

_{Not cool with the threats -Tasuki-}

@SmashbrosFtw1306 Yup, the lack of mods on Sony basically confirms which platform I'm getting the games on.

@SmashbrosFtw1306 Yep, the Xbox One version of Fallout 4 has user made mods. It's not quite the same as PC (mods are filtered by Bethesda to make sure they won't completely destroy your game), but yeah, you just pick a mod and add it.

Worth mentioning, though, that mods on Xbox One disable Achievements and I THINK you can only have one active at a time. I assume it would have been the same on PS4, only obviously with Trophies instead of Achievements.

@Ypmud Mods alter the game, which could affect its security, but not your account's security. That's what Sony got in trouble for, that has nothing to do with this. It's likely a matter of not wanting to curate these.

@SoulsBourne128 Pretty sure no one deserves a death threat, bluff or not (though threats to steal their pizza might be). As for MS, while it's obvious they're better now, Sony's lackluster behavior recently doesn't hold a candle to the ****ery Mattrick pulled back in 2013.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/e/ec/Phoenix_Despairing.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140625194050

Sony shape up, this is getting absolutely pathetic.

Well.... This is bull.

I was gonna get Fallout 4 on Xbox anyway so whatever but still this is freaking stupid if MS can do it Sony should be able to as well whatever excuse they have for this bullcrap is probably bs

Bit of a shame really...we might have had a make fallout4 interesting and not almost identical to FO3,FO:NV mod...

@SoulsBourne128 Death threats are never ok

@ShogunRok FYI you can have as many mods active at a time as long their overall size doesn't exceed 2 GB limit.

From what I've read at different sources, it sounds like Bethesda should be more on the ball for getting mods working properly on the PS4.

At the end of the day, I could care less because I have my PC for mods.

I think the biggest problem is that it feels like Sony thinks they know better what we want instead of us

Sure EA Access might not be the greatest, but deny it ? let me be the one that chooses, same with mods...

When did not having options became a good idea ? I mean, i dont care, i have my PC but still...

Just cancelled my pre-order after reading this, can't see the point with no extra content and now no mods. The game works perfectly well 'as it is' on PS3. Oh well, will have to wait for ESVI?

Guess I'll avoid bethsoft games on PS4.

Timing of this "announcement" seems pretty convenient and beneficial to Microsoft as well. Unless you're prepared to share these unreasonable conditions & demands with the customers you feel deserve mods the way they should be, then keep your gob shut Bethesda!

@adf86 It says a lot more that sony has waited this long to put up a excuse tho

makes you wonder

This does not surprise me. The way Todd Howard mentioned mods on PS4 back at E3 2015. I just rolled my eyes and said " i will believe that when i see it."

Mods would be fun to play with, but i certainly do not want anything that would cause lower frames or more glitches. Overall i would be happy to have a free mod dlc with 10-15 mods tested not to mess up anything.

Maybe with Skyrim mods can be already in the game data like old PS2 games often had.

Well, lucky for me this is one of the games I sold to buy for X1 where I have lots of hard drive space, and Skyrim will be on X1 too so, two birds, one stone.

Arrogant Sony is back™

Sony is going full stupid lately. If there's a perfectly sound explanation for this (I doubt it because if there was, a response should've been immediate), Sony better put it out there soon because Bethesda is an important third party partner and more importantly you're just giving people reasons to start looking at other consoles.

@Xaessya Who says MODS are not allowed. They don't say what the reason is for not allowing it. Did it not work good or i don't know. Maybe it was the same halfass files as with the fog in Fallout 4. I don't know what the reason is to be honest nobody knows. So it is easy for everyone to flipout without any kind of statement From both sides. Lets be honest Bethesda is a trainwreck in the Playstation departement the only good working game I played which they made was Dishonored on the PS4 it ran ok but did not look great and also was terribly optimised. And if there way of fixing things is removing stuff like they did with the fog. That makes me wonder what problems they may get with MODS.

I will be getting these games on Xbox then.

@Gamer83 I peered through my crystal ball when all the gifs and stuff were being shared and the arrogance began to slowly creep first from fans and eventually Sony.

What? I was right? Well blow me and call me Susan, I couldn't have seen Sony being a bunch fumbling. Nope. Not at all. It's not like they routinely drop anything that doesn't sell and pretend it never was, only to jump back in when the competitor makes bank, or miss features the competition offer, or think the word Playstation can sell something on its own, or that 599 is a good launch price, or their success comes from being reactionary...the list goes on.

Sony like many companies makes mistakes. All 3 hardware manufacturers do. But honestly Sony has this habit or being predictably stupid. Things go well? Wait for the ball to drop and roll away. I've always said this: For the Players - Until it suits us.

We haven't always seen eye to eye on things but we always seem to agree on when/how Sony messes up. It is predictable isn't it? It's like e3 bingo.

I'm saying this as a fan of Sony since I began at age 3: The ball is now in the court of the Scorpio and NX. And I couldn't be happier, because now we get 9th Gen hardware, 9th gen games, and maybe Sony will get off their butts, stop drinking arrogant soup and do something the PLAYERS want. Like external support. Or better value for money, or features their competitors have at a lower price point.

It's not hard and I know your business is bleeding money in some sectors, but all these eggs in one basket to keep afloat isn't good because little things like most of the past week make up a very large problem.

_{Language -Tasuki-}

Maybe Sony should have released a statement, I don't know, about 4 months ago saying due to potential security risks mods won't be coming. Instead they let Bethesda take a lot of heat over something that was out of their control.

@BLPs Pretty much bang on. I will say that in every console generation whoever did well the previous gen usually gets way too full of themselves. Sega after the Genesis, Sony after the PS2, Nintendo and Microsoft after the Wii and 360. It's like no console manufacturer can remember what made them successful and that people won't just buy your system based on your name.

I'd be more than willing to bet it has something to do with a security flaw in the OS, or that people would install mods that would melt the already hot and loud PS4s. MS gets away with it because they actually built in a decent cooling system,which can handle higher temps.

@BLPs
Sony's always been an arrogant company so in that sense certain decisions are predictable. I don't think any of what's happened this past week or over the course of this gen are out of the ordinary, however, as even back in the height of the PlayStation's market domination with PS1 and 2, Sony was extremely full of itself. The difference is it was a much healthier, much more focused company back then. Now it's just like for every one good decision there's 3 or 4 bad ones. One of the most ridiculous things is still not allowing us the choice on EA Access. This 'we know better than you what's good for you' crap never works and only the super hardcore fanboys defend stupidity like that. One big blunder (like MS' initial policies with Xbox One) can hurt, but a series of blunders also add up. I still think this gen goes to Sony but people will remember stuff they didn't like when it comes time for the next-gen... If there is actually going to be a next-gen in terms of MS and Sony hardware, that's still up in the air.

I just want Skyrim: Special Edition to run smooth and I'm happy. Mod's would disable trophies so I wouldn't use them anyways.

Bethesda games are always at their worst on PlayStation. I love Sony, I love Bethesda. But the two together always disappoints.

I bought a console, not a pc. Having to deal witch patches, updates, firmware and hard disks it's already enough for me.

I'm a little salty over this, but I do understand why they are doing this. Hope this modified method Bethesda's working on gives us mods and Sony the security they are craving; it'll likely limit the mods we have access too.

I love how there is no news source out there that actually analyzed what Bethesda said. I was hoping push square would have noticed it. I guess everyone is scared of taking Sony's side in this because they will be labeled a fanboy. I think I came up with a good analogy for what is actually happening here. If a toddler wanted to use your game system to exclusively play violent video games and you as the parent had already decided that they can't play those until they were older. You would tell them no for playing those games on your system. And it wouldn't matter what they said or how long they asked - you would still say no. You did offer them to play a fun platformer though- which they said no to. It was either the violent game or nothing. So you as a parent choose nothing. So in that instance, it is the parent's "fault" but not really. Bethesda is saying my way or the highway - so is Sony. But no one blames the developer because they love Skyrim (btw so do I)

@Juvenlast What happened is already know

Bethesda uses a kind of file system for mods that Sony just doesnt want to use, it has something to do with sounds and maximum file size (or something along those lines).

This is all Sony being completely retard

I never did get very far in Fallout 4 on my PS4 but I was really looking forward to trying out mods for the first time. Now I'm thinking that I'll just restart my game on Xbox One since I already have it. Never played Skyrim either so I'll most definitely be getting that one on Xbox One as well.

@NoCode23 I'd be happy with mods that fix some of the haywire decisions Bethesda made. Like what can receive ballistic weave or perks not actually working the way they say they should. But mods were Beth's get out of jail free card so they didn't have to worry about fixing these problems.

@Juvenlast Except I'm 35 and paid for the game and console and wax already told I could play the violent game.

@adf86 Actually, no. He was right. The ball is most definitely in Nintendo and Microsoft's court now. Sony just showed their hand for the next two years (unless they're foolish enough to release even more iterative hardware in that time) and relatively few people are impressed with what they've presented. Meanwhile, most gamers are too smart to be suckered in by these half-gen moves so a lot are saving their hype and money for hardware that will actually be worth the upgrade like NX or Scorpio. Sounds a lot like history repeating itself cough cough Sega 32x cough cough Atari Jaguar CD cough People seem to think these mid-gen upgrades are a new concept but the idea has been around for well over 20 years.

There goes my reason for buying Skyrim special edition.... I just wanted more sexy shirtless orcs with lightsabers Why can't I have my saber-enhanced husbandos? WHYYYYY?!

@SmashbrosFtw1306 Yeah, ive been flying around wasteland with my infinite jetpack ring firing endless explosive rounds with my deadly Jackal .

This news sucks. I have both the ps4 and xbox one at present and am looking to upgrade one to the ps pro or xbox slim. So far with the ps pro there is the uhd player missing while the xbox slim has one. Now this for fallout and the elder scolls, my favourite franchises. Im also sure more xbox games will use mods in future. Up till now the pro was my best bet but now the xbox slim is beginning to look better. I am stuck between the two at the moment but sony are beginning to drop behind in my view.

@shogunrok Seems like this isn't just a ''Sony'' issue, Farming Simulator 17 did confirm mods coming to PS4..

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