Final Fantasy XV Ultimate Collector's Edition Doesn't Include the Season Pass

At least this isn't as bad as Battlefield 1 not coming with the collector's edition...for Battlefield 1

Between this and charging full price for Rise of the Tomb Raider I'm starting to wonder about Square/Enix. I'm not even going to get started on the $20 iOS Final Fantasy games, or the Dues Ex preorder debacle, but it seems to me like they are completely out of touch.

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi only because it looks like boring garbage

@GoatWrench
I'm stopped wondering and started considering SquareEnix joke at least 6 years ago. It just gets worse as the years go by. The most idiotic move was still taking MS' blood money for one year exclusivity on Rise of the Tomb Raider. The Deus Ex 'Augment your pre-order' bullsh*t was an extremely close second, however. I don't want to punish developers like Eidos Montreal by not buying their games but it truly sickens me that I have to give SE money when I shell out for Deus Ex. That cash should go to the people who actually did work on it, not the scumbag pieces of sh*t in suits sitting in SE's ivory towers.

What's the story here? The UCE had everything that it contained listed when they announced it.

People shouldn't assume that anything SE announces afterwards is going to be gifted to them.

@get2sammyb How many UCE did they end up making, 40,000? That would amount to a loss of a million dollars (give or take a bit if some people who have the UCE don't buy it, which would be surprising), that seems like a bit too much to take on the chin for a gesture of good faith.

If I recall correctly, Fallout 4 did the same thing with the Pip Boy edition, and I don't recall there being much outcry. As long as they aren't removing things that were promised I really don't see what there is to be upset about, people who ordered the UCE are getting exactly what they paid for.

@Kellanved You'll see what the point is, after the high from the shadenfreude wears off.

Getting nickel-and-dimed after you've already committed over 4x full retail price of a game doesn't cultivate goodwill.

I declare the new name to be
"The Not So Ultimate, Screwed Over Edition."

@Kellanved
My main problem with it all is that the "limited and exclusive" Noctis Play Arts figure turned out not to be limited and exclusive at all; at first they offered just the 3 others at their online store, then Noctis popped up all of a sudden for the normal retail price. I'm more of a PAK collector than I'm a FF fan -which is not to say I'm not fond of (the good ol') FF- so the only reason I was willing to spend 'console money' (I can get an Xbox One + Quantum Break + Halo 5 + Rise of TR for €270) on the darn thing is the not so exclusive PAK figure.

Basically, as long as gamers pre-order things like this then publishers will keep doing it. Taking a pre-order on a new game is a gamble. Taking a pre-order of a season pass without the game being released AND no details being released is just asking for punishment.

This is a world where games can be delivered next day and there is a day one patch for most games are bigger than an elephants danglies. DLC can be purchased and delivered within minutes online. There is just no need to pre-order. Unlike hardware there are rarely shortages. Just don't pre-order games/dlc/passes when the publisher is being shady and they won't be shady.

@Kellanved if its 40,000 copies. Thats almost $11mil in the bank. Making a loss?

As always when anything like this is brought up, where the hell have our consumer rights gone? Season passes need to bog off.

Next story: Buying the Season Pass gives you permission to buy the DLC, not to own it. Those who want to buy the DLC have to buy the Season Pass first. But to buy the Season Pass, you need to pre-order the game first.

Simple enough?

@Boerewors I found this CE not worth it for the money. I did not even like the noctis figure that much. I really got annoyed with the Final Fantasy World CE that sold out. Because I wanted to preorder with PayPal but it kept asking for CC and then i was to late because of the terrible customerservice who just said go talk with PayPal about the problem. The funny thing is I tried to buy a game not preorder that worked. And i got my last great response from Square-Enix customerservice you can get on a list when we got some games left..... That made my first time of not wasting my time getting it. I hate that onlinestore so much even a small company like NISA can make it work with a better customerservice. I just hate the exclusive onlinestores just bring some to the real stores. And with Final Fantasy World you can buy the statue also i just want the book....

@Boerewors I found this CE not worth it for the money. I did not even like the noctis figure that much. I really got annoyed with the Final Fantasy World CE that sold out. Because I wanted to preorder with PayPal but it kept asking for CC and then i was to late because of the terrible customerservice who just said go talk with PayPal about the problem. The funny thing is I tried to buy a game not preorder that worked. And i got my last great response from Square-Enix customerservice you can get on a list when we got some games left..... That made my first time of not wasting my time getting it. I hate that onlinestore so much even a small company like NISA can make it work with a better customerservice. I just hate the exclusive onlinestores just bring some to the real stores. And with Final Fantasy World you can buy the statue also i just want the book....

@themcnoisy You forget these things need to made to. I will not buy a 250 plus game anyway look at BF1 also that insane price. And a few more EA games it is just to much money.

@Flaming_Kaiser the projected sales are probably 4-6 million as a conservative guess. This £11mil chunk is money for free as far as squeenix are concerned.

Atleast it's still better than Battlefield 1's season pass.

If you weren't promised the season pass in UE, then Square Enix doesn't have to give it to you.

@Punished_Boss_84 Square Enix doesn't have to give us anything - but surely it's worth shouting about?

FF has truly been dead since X anyways.. so...

I just laugh by the time finished reading this article

I just laugh by the time finished reading this article

@ShogunRok
I'll admit, it is strange ommitance. This right now is just crying for more presents when something of worth is announced.

Seldom CE come with season passes.

Also, if people are willing to give so much money for a preorder, SE knows another $25 wont be an issue. If you feed the beast it will just grow bigger.

• Was the CE overpriced? Yes.
• Was it bogus how they said "limited to this amount" then sold more? Absolutely.
• Was the Deus Ex preorder debacle crossing the line? Maybe.
• But is getting angry over not receiving a season pass which wasn't included in a given pricetag warranted? No.
• Is getting angry you have to pay full price for a game that's, well, a brand new game on the platform and less than a year old elsewhere warranted? No.

  I agree that much of what they have done is questionable, but not to the extent people make it seem and definitely not for every situation.

@Fath How on earth is anybody being Nickle and dimed by getting exactly what was advertised?

SE valued the price of the CE at $270, and people gladly paid for it knowing full well what it contained. The other option would be to include the Season Pass and then hike the price up to $295, but that would be far, far more egregious. This way people have the choice of getting the Season Pass if they want it or not, and SE doesn't lose money by literally giving it away.

The sense of entitlement that many gamers have nowadays is ridiculous. You pay them for what they offer you, this doesn't give you the right to be gifted anything in the future, this isn't how businesses work.

Gaming is not an altruistic endeavor, people need to realize this and stop expecting companies to charity things to them.

@themcnoisy Where are these "consumer rights" violations you allude to? SE advertised a product, showed exactly what was included with it, and then people bought it, and are still getting exactly what was advertised.

Where on earth is the controversy here? People are expecting free bonuses from a publicly traded company with shareholders and salaries to pay? You can't just write off a million dollars because you're a big company, that isn't how a successful business is run. You use that million dollars to pay some employees, or to help continue developing future software.

Still wondering if the NA deluxe physical version will have the season pass.......who knows....

@Kellanved I've been thinking about how I could answer your question, but I can't escape the feeling that whatever I say won't make a difference, since you're not likely to be swayed from your conviction that your position is the objective truth against which all subjective barbs break and shatter, and I'm probably the same way.

So let's just each agree that the other party has their head firmly stuck up their own butt, and let it go.

@Kellanved the outcry for fallout 4 came when they jacked up the price and announced only two pieces of story DLC.