What a disappointment this turned out to be. Fallout 4 is easily the best performing title that Bethesda has ever released on a PlayStation platform, but its first big expansion, Far Harbor, is in a real state right now. We're just a few hours into the highly anticipated add-on, and we're honestly finding it difficult to keep playing. It's not that the content is bad – we actually quite like what we've seen so far – it's that Far Harbor has some unforgivable framerate issues on Sony's console.
As many of you will already know, the expansion takes place on an entirely new landmass. Near the start of the add-on, you travel North of the Commonwealth by boat to a remote island. The isle itself is big – it's apparently the biggest DLC location that the developer's ever crafted – and as you'd expect, it's full of detail and home to plenty of secrets. It's a shame, then, that exploring this fresh environment is so unnecessarily frustrating.
You see, the island's coated in a radioactive fog. It isn't the same weather effect that you find in the Commonwealth; this is a dense fog that floats in clouds around the island, and the game's engine seems to have a real problem with it. Whenever you step into this fog, or even go near it, the framerate plummets to unacceptable levels. If we had to take a stab at a number, we'd say that things tend to settle around the 10-15 frames-per-second mark.
Admittedly, this wouldn't be a huge issue if the fog only appeared in certain areas, but sadly, that's not the case. The irradiated fog covers the majority of the island, making it impossible to avoid as you go about your business. Annoyingly, this means that most of your time on the island will be spent jogging from place to place as the framerate constantly falls over itself. It's just not on.
Far Harbor is currently a wreck on PlayStation 4. Whatever the cause of its consistently bad frame rate – be it some sort of bug or the result of a graphical oversight – it's simply something that players shouldn't have to deal with in paid content, expansion or otherwise. As it stands, we can only hope that Bethesda patches things up sooner rather than later.
We would have loved to bring you our full hands on impressions of Far Harbor, but there really isn't much more that we can say at this point. If you've had similar problems with the expansion, feel free to rant in the comments section below.
I just finished a good hour or so in Far Harbor ......... and the framerate is a bit......ch....o...pp...y.....in the fog, still playable granted, but far from smooth.
Still, the setting in the state of Maine is pretty cool, beats Boston or DC.
What are we talking about here? Maybe give some actual numbers.
@manu0 If I had to guess, we're talking around 10-15fps. Not totally unplayable, but pretty darn close at times.
It's around 30 in the town or when the fog is mostly receded. 20 to 10 fps when your walking through the fog (it fluctuates).
@sub12 Yep, it's definitely the fog that causes it. A shame it covers about 90% of the island!
@ShogunRok that's how I played Half-Life 2 on my sh***y PC back in the day =)
it's actually possible to get used to these low fps, believe it or not
It kind of makes you wonder why Bethesda released it in this state.......it's playable, but they are going to get blowback.
lol, that's what Quake 2 was like for me (until I got a new PC).
People are complaining about this on reddit as well. Such a bummer. I'm not playing it until they patch it as I want it to be a positive experience, not a huge let down. Frame rate issues are my one true bugaboo with games.
Guess this is a good excuse for me to finish Uncharted lol, while I wait for them to fix this.
@glassmusic Me neither, I waited for ages for the Witcher to be fixed but it was worthwhile waiting because they did clean it up nicely.
I'm sure it'll run find on Playstation Neo
I've put in about three more hours tonight, just wanted to say, it's not optimal, but it is playable.
So far I'm enjoying the Far Harbor map quite a bit.
It's playable and it's probably the same framerate I get in Sanctuary after breaking the build limit by some distance but at least it seems to be a consistent level. Outside of the fog it runs very well and the majority of my time with it so far (in actual missions) has been in areas with no fog, in towns or buildings. After just a few hours with it, I have to say that I've found it much more interesting than the main game so far and the island looks to be pretty big, it's just a shame they don't seem to be able to make it run properly. Bethesda really need to create a new game engine, as let's be honest a bit of fog should not have this effect with today's technology and after coming straight from playing Uncharted I thought my PS4 was broken 😃
A pattern emerges. At least you have backwards flying dragons to look forward to if they do bother to bring out a patch.
I found it funny people said that Bethesda games should be among the best Playstation titles. The games are great but they always are full off bugs and run terrible on the platform.
Neo can't come quick enough! It's not to bad certainly playable but that's not the point it still shouldn't happen.
I remember when developers used fog to improve performance!
@xMEADx standard PS4 is more than capable of running FO4 optimally to be fair
Bethesda has a really bad history off releasing games that frame rates are so bad, that they are classified as broken. I dont buy there games anymore
Fallout 4 is got to be the biggest disappointment of the year for me! I was really expecting more of it but I couldn't even finish it...
Now that I've seen the DLC is wonky it seems it isn't for me either!
How ironic, they used fog back in the day to help games run better! I thought doom was the best performing Bethesda game? We're talking about performance not sales?
@kyleforrester87 that's some sweet draw distance
Why do hey keep doing this?The Skyrim DLC springs to mind here. Do they not even test the stuff they release?
@Dan_ozzzy189 Bethesda only published Doom
Said it a few weeks ago. Once U4 releases - underperforming games are gonna get smashed. F4 was a huge disappointment, the game itself was awesome but the frame rate drops, glitching through walls, cumbersome in places, losing comrades etc. It was forgiven at the time, but some big hitters are coming out making last years 'critics' goty look like a pile of poop.
What's quite funny is that if you take a walk through the fog and endure the frame rate, it almost feels like it hits 60fps when you find a place without it. Says it all really!
Lol people that paid double price for a season pass. Bethesda, you guys are hilarious.
To be honest, if you really want to play Fallout 4, and you've never been one to gripe about performance..........this is still very playable. I would say, give it a try.
Is it acceptable in a general sense,.......no, Bethesda should probably get a slap on their hand again, but it is playable, and actually quite good.
@ShogunRok mods lol, what's gonna happen then, locked at 10fps. The should just get modders to build the next game, ffs.
Bethesda at their finest
@sub12 This is far, far worse than anything I encountered in the main game. To say performance issues like this are acceptable is just allowing developers to get away with it. I'm not saying it's impossible to enjoy Far Harbor, but the simple truth is that we shouldn't have to deal with a frame rate like this on PS4. In that sense, it's unacceptable.
@ShogunRok Never thought I'd write this, but it sounds like, it's a feature, not a bug.
Maybe they didn't want 10fps but maybe they were trying to get some type of slowdown effect when they created the fog, like walking through water, but they couldn't figure out how to implement it properly? Have they responded at all yet? Is it working better on X1, or getting 5fps over there?
@rjejr It's definitely not a feature, and even if it was, somehow, then someone at Bethesda needs a huge kick up the arse.
As for a response, I've seen comments from moderators on the Bethesda forums that the developer will be "looking into it" but I've seen no official statements yet.
I've seen reports of bad frame rate drops on PC, too, but I'm yet to see anyone complain about it on Xbox One. If it's fine on Microsoft's machine, then it could well just be a bug that's killing the frame rate on PS4. Either way, how this got past quality testing is beyond me. They even had a closed PS4 beta for crying out loud!
Let's be honest here, they're either lazy or incompetent or both. Very overated, I'm steering clear of their future releases. Far better experiences to be had.
Maybe they're just banking on PS4K being able to handle it!
@ShogunRok "how this got past quality testing is beyond me.
How many people do you think pre-paid for this DLC w/ the season pass vs those picking it up after reading the reviews? I'm guessing the answer to that answers your question.
@GraveLordXD Well it is radioactive fog filled w/ fallout. I assume it's like training in the hyperbolic time chamber in DBZ.
I have it downloaded but haven't started it yet. This is not news I wanted to hear.
There's a patch out for PC that fix's the issue for them at least.
This is not a surprise its Bethesda we are talking about .
i didn't even notice lol i was too busy running from shrimp lobster thing
And is it normal for the fog to give off rads ?
When a new game releases, or season pass, it's all hype. Nobody ever stops to ask the question, "uh, is this even going to run properly when it does release?"
This is far from unplayable. It's not even Xbox Morrowind bad. I know we expect a lot more as far as performance goes nowadays, but for DLC, this is not bad. Only real issue I had was with fog and coastal effects and even that was not so bad.
My advice is to wait and see if a patch fixes the frame rates before purchasing. For me it is not just a drop here and there but a sustained drop in areas with rads and fog. Inside buildings or in the town and the frame rates are fine.
2 thumbs down for this dlc because of the nauseating frame rates. However if you do go to Foggy Far Harbor don't forget to pack some barf bags.
Buy the PS4K Neo.
So glad I haven't bought it yet then!
I honestly didn't even notice until I read this. But keep in mind I also used to play my N64 on a 13" black and white TV. I'll still take choppy frame rates over quest breaking bugs any day.
Saw Fallout 4 in the shop for £15 is it worth that?
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