I stopped playing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt on 6th June, swore off it for life, told colleague Robert Ramsey that he'd Made_A_Huge_Mistake.gif awarding it a 10/10, and spent the following six months ridiculing everyone for liking a game in which following a floating foetus is widely regarded as its best bit. I was wrong.
Y'see, valued reader, I'm never afraid to admit when I've made a mistake, and I was unfair on CD Projekt Red's sprawling role-playing release. You have to understand this: I hate fantasy with a burning passion – the thought of tackling Tolkien's body of work worries me almost as much as what I'd do to the attendees at a Lord of the Rings cosplay convention.
I detest fantasy more than Legolas' stupid pointy ears and Orlando Bloom's boyish good looks.
So when I started playing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and it began bludgeoning me over the head with Eastern European interpretations of English accents and fictional Nordic words, it put me right off. Ramsey, ever the optimist, promised me that it got better: "It's like a dark fairy tale," he said, reinforcing his perfect score. "Stick with it."
I did stick with it, and took him up at his word. A dark fairy tale, he promised me, and an early quest regarding a wench drowned in her wedding dress caught my attention. "This is it," I thought, before recovering her bracelet and being greeted by a noon wraith – Andrzej Sapkowski's answer to Pokémon's Lickitung.
Even as early as that quest, I suspected that The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt wasn't going to be what I wanted it to be. I was expecting the short story to conclude with a haunting vixen: torn wedding dress, snowdrop décolletage, wild hair obscuring her facial features. But instead of delivering my interpretation of a "dark fairy tale", I got bog-standard roll-your-eyes fantasy instead.
And I just couldn't get into it – despite an agonisingly brief detour to Vizima proving promising. At the time, murmurs were starting to build around The Bloody Baron – a quest line so dense, so heavy, so unbelievably brilliant that it would obviously win me over. But I laughed when I dug up a miscarried baby, transformed it into a Lubberkin, and went on to chase it through Velen like a racecourse's rabbit.
It was 6th June and I was well and truly done. At that point, 18 hours into the knock-off fantasy world, I swore off it for life, told colleague Ramsey he'd Made_A_Huge_Mistake.gif awarding it a 10/10, and spent the following six months ridiculing everyone for liking a game in which following a floating foetus is widely regarded as its best bit. But I was wrong.
I shrugged through Game of the Year with Push Square commenters hailing the RPG as the second coming of Gandalf, and my perspective was reinforced by Giant Bomb's end of year podcasts, whereby, unsurprisingly, the crew weren't enamoured with the title – they fortunately don't really like anything over there, after all.
But there was a niggle as January started. Vizima, a short distraction in the opening hours of the story, had stuck with me, and what if there was more of the same? Also, having sampled such a slender slice of the adventure, how could I keep battering it with verbal abuse when I didn't know for sure? I'd have to go back and give it another chance.
And this weekend I gave it every chance. I figured that if I let it try to win me over, then I could gleefully tell everyone that they were wrong about it when it "inevitably" let me down. So, I pulled up a Wiki and the in-game glossary and I started reading, trying to catch back up with the plot beats that I'd forgotten and also get a better understanding of the universe as a whole.
I pored over it, and then I played. Within about an hour of picking up the controller, I'd mopped up the parts of Velen that interested me and travelled to Novigrad, and that's where it started to click: the Elizabethan costumes, the powdered faces, the pantomime nature of Dandelion's love pursuits – this is what I'd been hoping for from the start.
And so, having just prised my lips from those of flame-haired accomplice Triss Merigold, I've come to tell you that I was wrong. I still think that the combat's crap, and I can't believe that it launched with such laggy controls, but even though I'm expecting more godawful Godling designs and other similar fantasy guff from the final 40 hours, I've discovered The Witcher 3's beating heart at last.
Now I understand what everyone else fell in love with. And I'm feeling butterflies a bit myself.
Did you struggle to get into The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt at first? Have you ever come back to a game after a prolonged break and found that it clicked? Follow a Lubberkin into the comments section below.
Comments (75)
My wife started it about a week ago and was swearing more than I've ever seen her but only due to learning the combat but now she's addicted to it and loves it too bits.
It looks beautiful but I'm not going to play it as I've not the time plus I've a cupboard full of sandbox and Bethesda titles which I've never got past 30% completion . Not making same mistake this generation.
Story telling is up there with the very best for me, next to Uncharted & Mass Effect. And what's great is they put so much effort into the side quests as well as the main story. No rubbish filler run about quests in sight.
Poor old Sammy, I have a feeling that The Witcher 3 will be considered an all time great of this decade. You should start from scratch however considering the time lapse.
It's not a perfect game, that is true, but is it a 10/10? It sure is IMO.
I have to say, I don't like fantasy either, but the dark grittiness and storylines made me forget that......
This isn't fantasy as made by some dudes in sunny southern California, it feels darker and more foreign.
For me it is my favourite RPG ever along side Mass Effect 2. Two truly amazing games.
@sub12 Agreed that it's darker, but I'd have liked the creature designs and fantasy elements to be much darker than they are. It's a bit of a half-step for me, but I understand and accept that they're chained to the novels.
Lol, I had the complete opposite: I liked it so much that for a month I didn't do much else than play, watch, talk or read the Witcher. I bought the artbook and strategy guide, ordered all Sapkowski's books when I was 20 hours in and although I had one hell of a ride, it was just too much.
After finishing the game I didn't wanna go back like I first thought I would and the books are still sitting on my shelf. I never indulged in a game I did back then before and I think it is because it hits my exact sweet spot when it comes to high fantasy; in a strange way it's much more relatable than the LOTR of Hobbit crap. I stopped cold turkey and I never thought I'd see Novigrad or Skellige isles again... But the more we discussed our GOTY, the more I got curious bout the world behind the Witcher and last week when I received a Witcher comic book I pre ordered (I was that serious about TW ), I got lost in the lore once more.
Ultimately my GOTY 2015 goes to Xenoblade, a game I enjoy for what it is but where I don't have the chance of burning out on it since no one I know is playing it and there isn't much lore besides what you get in the game. But as an overall experience the Witcher has so much to offer that I don't think it'll be topped this generation; well that is until Johnny Depp plays Geralt in Tim Burton's The Witcher trilogy :S
I'm kind of the same having started it again last weekend, I'm finding a new level of enjoyment for it.
That said some of the old feelings are creeping back in and I do wonder if I will see it through to the end.
The issue, I think, is ultimately that it's open world, and as soon as I get really invested in a particular storyline it's over and I'm left looking at a list of which to do next. I know it all fits together nicely but it does make it harder for me to stay invested.
Will keep playing. As open world games go, it's the best IMO, and it looks bloody gorgeous. Can't wait for Cyberpunk.
Finished it, all quests completed, a good few ? around Skellige left over...but it took me six months! Will dive back in with the DLC when it's on sale, that will probably be next year.....what a game though!
This is one of those games I still haven't tried. It goes back to Dragon Age Inquisition. Everyone I know was treating it as the best thing to ever happen to PS4 so I figured I'd give it a try. Well I hated it. I don't think it was a bad game, but I really really hated it. I didn't like the characters, the voice acting, the combat, ANYTHING. The whole game felt like a massive chore with little to no entertainment.
I can't help but shake the feeling that The Witcher 3 will leave the same bad taste in my mouth. I will not be Dragon Age'd again.
@get2sammyb I have the same initial feelings as you. I played a decent amount of the game completing the baron quest and playing Gwent and did some side missions but I couldn't get into it. I really couldn't get to grips with the combat system and so ended up deleting it. Since then it has sat on my shelf gathering dust and every now and again I tell myself I'll give it another shot but I can't convince myself it's worth it for all the downloading, installing time and memory it'll take up.
@NathanUC Dont let DAO put you off The Witcher 3.
I really really hated DAO. I appreciate not everybody does but like you I couldn't stand it. TW3 feels completely different. Honestly, don't let your dislike for DAO put you off.
DAO is more of your standard trope fantasy through and through.....I would not let that game dictate your opinion of The Witcher 3.
@NathanUC I played da:I and I think it was decently fun. I thought I'd try to play it again sometime as a different build. I played this one and it made me see how terrible over and over dragon age is. You definitely should give this a try
2015 was kind of a funny year in that it seems like Joe gamer dictated to the critics what was good.
If not, a lot of them would have been, well, I played (insert number 1 from 20) hours of The Witcher 3, and is alright I guess.
Joe gamer said however, this game is f'ing amazing and your really missing out.
I still can't get into that game...Maybe if I had a decent PC but the PS4 version hurts my eyes.
@get2sammyb I am looking forward to playing this. I bought it, but not only am I playing through the first two, first; but I want all the expansions to come out before I dig in. I really hope that it lives up to the hype! (The first game is terrible, but I am pushing through it!)
Pretty rad that I'm not alone and others have had similar experiences. This was quite a personal article, but it seems like I wasn't entirely alone.
@get2sammyb I had a similar experience with FFX. I couldn't imagine why people said it was an amazing game. I loved FF games, but I would not touch FFX at all. Two years after its release I finally sat down and played through it, and it stands today as one of my all time favorite FF games.
It doesn't always work though, I still can't understand how anyone could like FFIX. I played all the way through this one, and it sits on my list as one of the worst RPGs of all time (which may have contributed to my initial dislike of FFX).
Still prefer the story in DA Inquisition and the gameplay in Fallout 4, definitely a great game although a little too long.
@get2sammyb Nah, just you and the other ten people who have specifically come to this article to say that they didn't like it.
I'M JUST KIDDING GUYS!
I've literally just started it (just beaten the griffin for the army bloke) and agree, the combat is pants, which is probably made seem worse as I've recently just completed Batman which is sublime...
No doubt I'll get used to it though and end up loving it like almost everyone else!
@thedevilsjester Really? To be fair ff6-10 are the best 5 games released sequentially in any series ever. Ff9 is brilliant, not my personal favourite but a masterpiece none the less.
Back to Witcher 3 and I'm 2 hours in. Pretty fun so far, see you in 5 years for my full verdict.
All I can say is I have been saying how great this game is since launch. I had the advantage of playing the Witcher 2 previously so I was already aware of the characters and mythology, already had an understanding of the life of a Witcher and the circles he moved in, knew who his friends were etc and so was really looking forward this.
However I thought this was much better than I was anticipating. I never expected the world to feel lived in and as dynamic as it felt. How sometimes little decisions you make had such wide reaching consequences and impact on the world, How characters felt so 'real' and 'human'. The Bloody Baron is a great example - Someone who lives up to his name and considering the times and responsibilities, truly believable - however you also get to see he is a family man and see the other side to his character too. You soon get to realise that these are 'people' - not evil but doing what's been necessary to survive in harsh times, in a world where real monsters exist!
No spoilers but there are a few outcomes to this quest. I like the way that the consequences - not always black or white, right or wrong - are not necessarily always evident either. If you happen to be in a certain place, you can see the consequences.but it feels 'natural'. One of the most basic forms of this is when you clear an abandoned village and the settlers move back in, go back and they remember and speak positively about you. It all helps to create the dynamic, living breathing world.
I couldn't put this game down - it was all I played - completing every treasure hunt and the majority if side quests. If you think the combat is bad - try playing it on a harder difficulty setting. It becomes much more challenging and preparation is key to success.Even though combat is a part of the Witcher, its not the focus and main reason to play. Compared to many other story heavy games, where the world is as much of a focus, the combat is great.
The game is visually stunning, Novigrad is immense and yet every building looks unique - no copy and pasting. It looks and feels as if it has grown over time as most cities have - not just built in a day. The vistas - particularly at sunset with beautiful skies and the lighting that only sunsets can provide are incredible - Sometimes I just sat and watched the sunset.
As far as I am concerned, this game has set the standard this gen and nothing yet has come close. I know it may have some technical issues - although I rarely came across any in my time but at least for me, these didn't detract from the overall experience.
Its a gaming masterpiece!!
The Witcher 3 was an incredible feat in terms of making a huge world that you love exploring, something that Bethesda have always struggled with. It's one thing to make a huge world but it's another to not make it just full of "stuff". In terms of plot while reasonably well told (for an open world game) lacks any real character development other then Ciri and The Baron. Everyone else remains the same character at the end as they were at the beginning. While the Bloody Baron quest is the standout, it didn't blow my mind. If anything it became a hindrance because it came reasonably early on, so you end up expecting a story to top it later on but never does.
I must stress though, The Witcher 3 is an incredible achievement and by far the best fantasy open world game I've ever played, it just wasn't the best game I played last year.
@get2sammyb I'm on the same page when it comes to fantasy. It's just not something that interests me. I'd rather play Binary Domain than something like Diabolo 3 or even Dragons Crown.
Witcher 3 took a long time to win me over. I wanted to like it, but between the performance issues, the combat (l had just finished Bloodborne at the time, so it was a huge step down), and Cletus the Foetus floating about, I started to think that maybe it just wasn't for me.
Then I pushed on. I started to ignore the main missions and go around doing side quests and exploring, and it was superb. The story took a step back to focus on the world itself, and for every flouncing wazzock in tights, there were moments where I was a mercenary for hire, assisting people on the edge who would take assistance from anyone, even a freak.
I liked the way Geralt attempts humour and fails miserably. I liked how he made noises at Roach. I liked listening to people talking in towns.
It gets way better, and believe me; You've seen nothing yet as far as the main missions go. I won't say much more as spoiling it would be criminal, but once things open up, and you travel to some other, larger, locations and start getting involved in local politics.... It'll have you hooked. It's excellent and deserves all the praise.
@TheMightyPunram personally, it's because I grew up with Sci fi (star wars, aliens, robocop, blade runner, transformers, numerous Sci fi novels) and always thought the ships, weapons, etc were "cool" and swords and sorcery were slower paced and more "boring". It just stuck. I love Game of Thrones and Witcher 3, but theyre a tiny minority. I've a feeling I'll like Cyberpunk more.
Fantasy > shooting people in the face
I really loved it at first - my avatar when I first joined Push Square was the baron himself - but all the glitches and bugs just ruined it for me. Quests frequently played out nonsensically, the flags for various events had got all mixed up. There were problems like Roche not appearing by the tree where he told you to meet him. The fix is to start another mission which involves Roche being in Novigrad... and that makes him also be by the tree. Yeah, it's weird.
It's nothing to do with it being v1.0 either. Things actually got really bad the further into the game I got and thus by that time more and more patches had come out. This newest patch has apparently broken a load of things. It's pretty pathetic, I have to say, that months and months of patches later, this supposed GOTY still has problems like your horse randomly not having a mane or the colour/brightness getting darker after you play Gwent. That's beta level stuff at best.
I don't begrudge anyone for enjoying it but I do find it to be incredibly overrated. This is a game where they had to fix something as basic as the controls post-release. I can't think of any other game that had controls so widely agreed to be bad that the devs had to fix them weeks after the game came out. Anyway, rant over. I'll leave you with this.
Oh just you wait. Wait till you are in those infernal skellige islands that all look identical and require outlandish travel time for next to nothing in return. Or when you have went through your 100th time of get a quest, find a monster, kill said monster and repeat wash and rinse. Wait until you see the SAME face on another villager for the 100th time. Yea, I want to like it but I just cant. I respect it for what is, but it is certainly not for me and definitely asks for to much of my time with to little in return and the same old tired fantasy stories get so old. Of ocurse, opinion and all.
@TheMightyPunram in all honesty, I thought it looked cool from a design standpoint, but there were a couple of things that instantly ruined it for me.
One was the idea of rolling dice to see if an action worked. It seemed to be a disconnect between the action and the effect. As a kid, that made no sense to me.
The other thing was that the kids who played it in school were sort of the "geeky" kids. That's not an issue nowadays, but back then I was smoking and listening to nirvana behind the PE building, so it didn't appeal.
It is in fact okay to decide you don't like a game after giving it 18 hours of your life.
If I were to write an article about Uncharted it would look like the first half of this article.
@MinerWilly You do really have to commit to it, so I'd say if you're not willing/don't have the time to do that, it's best to shelf it.
@LieutenantFatman Yeah, it's very impressive in that regard. Makes Fallout 4 look like a joke in comparison.
@sub12 I'm not sure about an all-time great because I do think elements will age poorly - the controls, even though massively improved, are shockingly bad. It's in a different league to most other RPGs, though.
@kyleforrester87 No I do think that's a legit complaint. There's something to be admired about the density and complexity of the quests, but there's also something to be appreciated about a game that has a laser focused goal and executes on it exceptionally. The Last of Us is a good example: a single plot arc with very powerful character development with a great pay off at the end.
@NathanUC Dude, I hear you - but if I could come to like The Witcher 3 then it's worth a shot. I would never touch Dragon Age with a barge pole, but @ShogunRok informs me this is better in practically every regard.
@Simon_Fitzgerald It does get better when you get to Novigrad - at least much more like what I was hoping it would be.
@Bad-MuthaAdebisi I also prefer the gameplay in Fallout 4. The combat in The Witcher 3 is pants.
@TheMightyPunram To me, the things you listed are not "all of that good stuff" but "all of that awful stuff". I tried reading Lord of the Rings as a nipper and almost lost my will to live - and my desire to ever read another book again. Obtuse, unrelatable garbage. And so, so overused. The very definition of the word fantasy is supposed to mean, like, imaginative and stuff - and yet, in my experience, it all seems to end up the same. I'm sure a fan of the genre would be able to suggest things that would "change" my mind, but I've always been more of a Wuthering Heights kind of person anyway.
For the record, I don't really like sci-fi either - I like my stories grounded in a world I can understand and recognise. No surprise, then, that my favourite part of The Witcher 3 so far has been when it keeps all of the eye-rolling guff to a minimum.
@Dodoo Keep going, the combat hasn't improved yet for me but the story does get stronger when you reach Novigrad.
@Neolit It's got issues for sure, but I'm really enjoying the arcs I'm following in Novigrad - it feels like a 10/10 for the first time for me.
@Johnnycide Coming from Bloodborne to this isn't something that I mentioned in the article, but yes, it absolutely did have an impact on my first impressions - especially when Bloodborne's "dark fantasy" setting is more aligned with what I consider to be "dark fantasy" in the first place.
@Matroska The controls remain poor IMO, but it's a tragedy that it shipped in the state that it did. I hadn't played since they patched in the alternative movement method, so I toggled between the two and it emphasised just how bad the game was at launch. I did have real issues back then, but I only really heard Giant Bomb talk about it.
@SonyInfinity Don't worry, I can just do a new article: Why I Hate The Witcher 3 Again
@RaymanFan2 I actually totally agree. I feel like 18 hours of time is a more than significant investment too, but I had people in the comments telling me it wasn't enough, so I wanted to play more just so that my opinion could carry some weight. Ultimately, those people were right, though, because it has grown on me now.
@get2sammyb I understand why people dig it, but it's a little to repetitive for me. I also like to create my own character when I'm entering a game world that bloated. Same worry I have for horizon.
@get2sammyb
Shockingly bad, c'mon now Sammy.
We get it, we really do.....you love the rather niche Bloodborne, you adore it......it's OK really, just that the majority of gamers love Witcher 3 more.
You can feel the bitterness in your writing, shockingly this, crappy that, hate even!!.....it's OK buddy, I'm sure Bloodborne is pretty good.
You need to just grab a cold one and listen to some T Swift,......you might be able to get a couple of Push Squares on your side (the let's play guy who took 8 hours to upload Witcher 3 bugs on You Tube and wrote a manifest on his Witcher 3 controls irks)......but your not going to change the mind of the majority of gamers. 2016, new year.....
I'm not a fan of these fantasy type settings either. That's probably the main reason games like Oblivion or Skyrim don't interest me. There are two series that make the setting tolerable however, Zelda and The Witcher. I still haven't played Witcher 3 but I'll get to it eventually. Thing is, if it's sci-fi or post apocalyptic, I'm much more likely to go for that setting and that's why Witcher, as good as it is, still takes a little bit of a back seat. I need to get to Fallout 4 first.
@themcnoisy yeah. The combat system was pretty good, but it was just a classic throwback. The storyline was mostly bad (cheeseball and poorly written) the graphics were terrible, and the characters were all forgetable and cheesy (except for Vivi, he was awesome, but one character can't save the game). I played it at launch, hated every minute of it. But some people think it was amazing, and I cannot understand why.
@sub12 But... I just wrote an article admitting I was wrong about the game?
@get2sammyb
It was the most grudgingly "I was wrong about the game" ever.
@sub12 I think that's a trifle unfair personally, but if that's how I came across then fair enough. I do think the way Geralt handles is shockingly bad (though much better post-patch), and I do think the combat is poor in comparison to the vastly superior Bloodborne. I don't consider the "playing" of The Witcher 3 to be its strength, but I do now recognise that it triumphs in other areas and I'm eager to see the story through.
shrugs
@get2sammyb
Yup, Bloodborne has better combat, but as I mentioned before.....
Bloodborne = a very much From Software hack n slash title that is as methodical as it is difficult.....combat is the main dish here....it has some RPGish elements, but it is by far and wide a hack n slash.
Witcher 3 = A huge open world action RPG (in the traditional sense) that places just as much importance in quests, narrative, atmosphere, and characters, than anything else.
Yes, Bloodborne has better combat, but that's the point of the whole game....
Gran Turismo has better driving than GTA V.......
"Why I Don't Hate The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Anymore"
Because you're batsh!# crazy to hate such a well-made game
The Witcher 3 is awesome, definitely my favorite game on PS4 so far. That said, I still can't understand how some people actually praise the story here. It's a giant cliché-fest with one deus-ex-machina after another. Still fun to follow through, especially for fantasy fans like myself, but far from what I would call actually good storytelling.
I can't believe some of you still think the combat is crap. Like, actual crap. It could be better, sure, but it could be far, far, far worse. And comparing it to Bloodborne is maddening - Bloodborne is the combat to a huge extent - of course it's good.
The only open world RPG I can think of that has better action based combat than The Witcher 3 is Dragon's Dogma, and that's because it's Capcom. Skyrim is atrocious by comparison, for example.
Don't get it at all.
@ShogunRok
Because most of the people complaining are Bloodborne fans, so they automatically use the latter's greatest strength as the main detriment against TW3......without even processing what kind of game The Witcher is.....
@ShogunRok - I always feel like people don't know what they are doing when the knock the combat. If you put in the time to get it down then it becomes pretty fun.
@ricklongo
Agree that the main story arc, the search for Ciri, is cliche......but it's everything in-between, the characters, interactions, and side quests......that make it special IMO.
I also agree that the Witcher 3 does not have bad combat......will it set the world on fire? No, but it's not bad whatsoever.
Controls are not bad either, especially with the alternative movement setting, juking and rolling is pulled off with ease......the main complaint is movement in tight indoor areas.....that's still wanting for sure (but by no means is it a deal breaker).
@Boerewors I know what you mean, I find it hard to play the game when all my friends are playing it. It kind of makes the experience feel less personal. I find myself waiting to go back to games when nobody else is talking about them.
Wasn't a bad game but it wasn't one of the greats's for me far to easy a game on the hardest setting you only need the square button to finish the game, the only hard part is the first few level's then it's a piece of cake. I also found myself heavily overleveled for the mission's also making it easy but I never played NG+ so maybe that add's a bit of spice, I really enjoyed the game just the combat and difficulty setting let it down it looked pretty though.
@JoeBlogs That's not true, I played TW3 on the hardest setting, all you need is to bash square button that's the problem with the combat, there is none. Also the magic and potion's were never needed.
I still have to play this, distracted by Bloodborne, MGS V and Fallout 4. Having heard of all those patches I decided to wait for a Goty with all content on disc. Next month I'll get Dying Light Enhanced, then it will be Dark Souls 3. Maybe I'll play the 2015 GOTY in 2017...
@JoeBlogs Sorry I meant to write bash square and roll and it is all you have to do bash square and roll out of attack's kinda straight forward. I'm not calling the game I really enjoyed it and will play it again sometime, especially after reading so much about it has kinda got me in the mood also I want to try NG+.
@ShogunRok Agreed, Witcher 3 combat is actually pretty good and infinitely better than Skyrim, which I found to be incredibly boring.
I have this, bought in the last sale with everything included as I got cheap ps credit. Started playing at a silly time though and want to get back into it, problem is though I think I left myself in a crap situation as I spent all my money on Gwent cards (love that game!) and left mid mission with I believe zero useful supplies! I will come back though m, currently tackling xenoblade though. Those 2 and Fallout (and MGSV... Probably my GOTY) should not have come out in one year as I do play plenty of other games! Think I'm going to have to promise myself to only buy the big games when I can actually commit, that or accept that they may remain uncompleted!
The combat isn't bad but it isn't as polished as it should be compared to the Batman games where the combat is tight and fluid. Plus the whole using potions mechanic I stopped using after 2 hours because it just wasn't necessary. I think quite a number of people including me weren't expecting the game to be so tough in the medium to high difficulties because usually open world games tend to be power fantasy games, so when you get your backside kicked by a griffon it ends up jarring. It's why I had to restart the game on the easy setting because I wanted to enjoy instead of getting bogged down all the time.
@Neolit A kindred spirit.
@ShogunRok I dunno, man - that's a bit of a cop out for me. I get what you're saying, and I agree that the Bloodborne comparison is perhaps a touch unfair, but I don't think you can say: "There have been games way worse so just because the combat here is barely serviceable it's perfectly acceptable."
@sub12 I agree with you. The strengths in The Witcher 3 are elsewhere, and that's absolutely fine. It doesn't mean people shouldn't acknowledge its weaknesses, though. inFAMOUS: Second Son has sublime controls and combat, for example, but it's world has less character than Geralt's finger nail. Again, they're going for different things, so it's not a totally fair comparison. But, there's nothing wrong with wanting more.
Alas, this article has veered off in a direction I really didn't expect it to, and is starting to go ever so slightly off topic now.
@JoeBlogs Haha no I don't suppose it is alway's a bad thing, it is a great game. The double Dragon is more about representing my favourite era in gaming, i'm not saying it's the best it 's just when I was young and gaming was all new and wonderfull etc, there was a huge amount's of button bashing then HUGE
@get2sammyb But that's my point. I don't think the combat is "barely serviceable" at all, I think it's decent. Calling it trash is total hyperbole, but people do it anyway.
@ShogunRok Fair enough! I want to respond to this and @JoeBlogs' link, but the combat was never the purpose of this article. In fact, I only mentioned it once.
Witcher fans are insane - I say I like the game and it's not good enough because I don't adore every single aspect of it. A bit unfair, IMO - but I guess this article went better than it could have done!
@JoeBlogs
@get2sammyb Your first mistake was stating your opinion on the internet.
Ah well at least it became a discussion without having to censor or ban folks. I'd say that's a plus.
@get2sammyb You'll need at least one tattoo of a main character as well as naming one of your children after one of the protagonists. Anything less is simply not good enough!
@TheMightyPunram @get2sammyb Ahhhhh this made me laugh like an idiot.
@LieutenantFatman That is brilliant!
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It's really only fair, Ciri is a good girl's name IMO.
I really wanted to like the game at first due to the hype. Seeing all the 10/10s tho, i just could not understand it. Especially since his horse could not follow a straight line or clear a path fence 5cm off the ground. Not to mention the way geralt handled like an ass.
I was convinced they were being paid for those reviews but credit to projekt they went and patched everything up (not that i agree with games being fully enjoyed without a patch) and thats when i went back and fell in love with it.
@NathanUC I totally agree about Inquisition, boring. I tried the witcher 2 and 3 for about 8 or ten hours each, couldn't get into it. Combat didn't seem fun. Not paced well. I just don't get it.
@ShogunRok I felt the combat could have been much better. Did you pay Shadow of Mordor? That was some fun combat.
I loved the immersion of the game. My favorite game of all time.
The biggest barrier to me was the combat, but maybe I should try it again. It just felt very odd and even if I'd slaughter a group of enemies without getting touched, it just wasn't satisfying. Still, all the hype can't be for nothing.
@stevie85 I'm with ya on both W3 and ME2. Though I have to say that The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and its first expansion Hearts of Stone is by far the best thing I've experienced in an RPG, EVER.
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