E3 2015 is over, but the announcements aren't slowing. Sony confirmed earlier today that it will be releasing a new iteration of the PlayStation 4 in Japan later this month, which will eventually be rolled out globally at an undisclosed time. The revision is an upgrade of the original model, weighing 10 per cent less than the launch unit and consuming eight per cent less power. It also comes with a matte hard drive cover, promising a more "casual" look. Less of a dust magnet, too, we suspect.
As mentioned, there's no word on when this model will arrive overseas just yet, but SCEE has revealed a 1TB device for the European market. This will launch on 15th July – the same day as God of War III Remastered – and will be named the 'Ultimate Player Edition'. Interestingly, this will be based upon the original console's components, so it won't be lighter or less power hungry – and it will still have the shiny hard drive cover. All a bit confusing this, isn't it?
There's no word on a price just yet – retailers will apparently reveal that in the coming days – but it doesn't appear to be a replacement for the 500GB model, so we can only assume that it will cost more. There's no word on North America just yet, but we're trying to get in touch with SCEA to find out more. To be honest, one would assume that it has no plans to follow Europe or Japan's lead just yet, as this surely would have been an E3 press conference announcement otherwise.
[source scei.co.jp, via blog.eu.playstation.com]
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"Less dust friendly, too, we suspect."
You mean "more" dust friendly, too, I suspect?!
@Dodoo Hmm, I don't know anymore - it's been a long week! I've re-worded it to: "Less of a dust magnet, too, we suspect."
Personally, I find the shiny bit attracts dust like Johnny Depp does teenage girls.
@get2sammyb Any prices confirmed yet? How much do you think they'll ask for one?
ALREADY? DAMN YOU SONY I already have so much I need to buy this year...
Oh well my PS4 is still working so I'll wait for the inevitable slim edition.
Unless they release a DragonQuest/Horizon/FF15/DarkSouls3 PS4....
@fit6958 Not yet.
10% and 8% don't seem like very big differences, which is why I suppose they didn't announce it at E3, it's not the slim we will probably get next year.
1TB as a gamer ed. makes sense. I was shocked to see the Batman bundle costing more than the normal PS4 this week, 1Tb was 1st thing I looked for but its still 500. And not even a disc, just digital. The Batman gray is nice, and it is a $10 savings, but I was still surprised.
I'd guess 1TB will be standard for the slim. Wonder if we'll ever get 12GB again w/ external HD support that will function like the Wii U? Not anytime soon, end of life like PS3.
Hey @get2sammyb any thoughts on a PS4 price drop now that we had the dream presser? I know people were talking it up before E3 due to the lack of exclusives but surely PS4 has momentum on its side now even w/o a big holiday exclusive. Opinion piece maybe?
If anyone wants to do the math
http://energyusecalculator.com/electricity_gameconsole.htm
@rjejr Price drop at Paris Games Week is my guess. It's right before the holidays, so it makes sense.
You would think that they would bundle god of war 3 remastered edition with the 1tb console and price it at $400 and replace it with the one currently out there... It doesn't cost Sony much to do a 500gb upgraded console...
Shoot it cost me $140 to add a 4tb hard drive to my PS4 but I don't buy mine in mass quantities like Sony does so it would cost them alot less just to ditch the 500gb and sell the 1tb than the average consumer...
@rjejr Im not sure they could do a 12GB version of the PS4 due to the fact you have to install your games this generation.
It aint eco until I can turn of my ds4 light bar nonsense
@get2sammyb - Oct 28-Nov 1, a little late, no? Aren't price drops usually mid Sept?
After MGSV, Mad Max (has that really not changed it's date yet?, they are all insanely mad) Destiny, AC, Rainbow 6, DQH, U:MTC
before COD, Fallout4, SWB and JC3
I guess that could work, still seems late though. Can X1 hit $299 and force it's hand or will that stick at $349?
Either way, I guess summer is set, Sept, Oct is just nitpicking.
So, $349 or $299?
@BLPs - Is there anything your'e looking forward to BLPs? I know you like the games more than the comments. Or is that "give me" more about having to wait until next year? E3 has me excited to get a PS4, but I think I'm still waiting for a U4 or R&C bundle, so not this Christmas. That MGSV PS4 looks awesome, but I'm not enough of a fan of that series to buy it right now. I'll wait a year for the new ed. to play it.
On the Wii U side I have XCX and Yoshi this year, and Skylanders and Lego D. may eat up all my other gaming money. One good thing about being me, I treat Sony and Ntinedo as different generations, PS1, then Gamecube, then PS2, then Wii, then PS3, then Wii U, then PS4. Each gen lasts me about 2.5 to 3 years. It helps that I don't play any online games like COD or Destiny or Madden so playing a game a year later - or 2 or 3 - doesn't affect me.
@BLPs I'm beginning to think if Sony begin releasing games that please you it'll be time for me to start thinking about getting a different console
In terms of this release, cool - although I love the shiny and matt effect of the current one, looks a lot nicer than this all matt version.
@Mrskinner - Well if it worked like the Wii U technically they could, and I think even X1 has that option now. Not sure how it would be marketed though. "External HDD NOT included" is a bit of a large disclaimer. If they installed a 64GBship instead o f12 you woul db eable to at least play 1 game at a time. Not sure how much cheaper 64GB chip would be over 1TB HDD though to make it worthwhile. Maybe in 4 years we'll find out?
BTW - I own a 12GB, first thing I did was put in an old 80Gb. I only bought it to stream - Amazon, HGOgo, Hulu etc - and play some time killing download games in my bedroom, the 500Gb PS3 is in the living room for real gaming.
Aww, this should've been the launched model. 500GB is way too little space to begin with considering so many triple AAA games are 40-50GB and that's w/o the patches
@BLPs - I like how you hid Batman - releasing tomorrow - in the middle of that long mainly Wii U list. I get you, seems like we're in the same boat. Only your boat has Yoshi in it 3 months before my boat
@rjejr It is quite late, but I still think it'll be around then. They could do it at Tokyo Game Show, I guess - but I think it'll be Paris Games Week, or just prior to that. They're co-marketing Call of Duty and Battlefront, and I suspect they'll have premium bundles for both. My guess would be:
$299.99 for bog-standard 500GB (with these updated components).
$349.99 for bog-standard 1TB.
$399.99 for 'premium' bundle with game (like a Storm Trooper design for Battlefront).
I know that seems like quite a lot of money off, but it's worth remembering that Sony dropped $100 when the PS2 was dominating around the same time. Also, they need to get the price down if they're going to push Morpheus, which is due in 2016.
@get2sammyb - COD and Battlefront seems like they said - "well we could spend money making games like Knack nobody wants, or we could spend money just marketing games everybody wants like COD". In my head MGSV is a Sony IP, PS3 too so I'm guessing they don't need to try quite as hard on that one, though that PS4 kicks butt.
Seems like you have given this some thought already. A $300 bog-standard PS4 could wind up under my tree. And you know BF sales in the states are nuts.
@BLPs - I don't want to jinx it, so I'm not even going to ask, I'll just say good luck.
@rjejr Yeah, we'll have to see. I just think that now they've got the PlayStation Plus revenue stream they're going to be more aggressive than people think. I mean, they could keep the high price, but at the end of the day they want to sell people subscriptions: Vue, Now, Music, Video, and Plus. And the best way to lock people into the subscriptions is by bringing the cost of entry down and increasing the install base.
They've been breaking even on the hardware for a while, and this new model will cut costs further. Moreover, they've said they want to attract younger players this year, too.
$299 with the Uncharted Collection and Bloodborne on Black Friday. Bank it.
@get2sammyb - Forgot about PS+ for SWB. Guess I'll enjoy Spaltoon now more. I have no interest in the Uncharted collection. Sacrilege I know, but 1 was too hard an dlong and boring adn 3 had a weak 1st half. You are correct about the bundle though for everyone else, just not for me.
And yeah, its basically $50 per year EVERY year for PS4 ownership, so they could survive the price cut. The longer people own the system the better.
Money, money money. Gaming is not a cheap hobby, is it?
@BLPs - Can we talk about this after your phone call, I'm a stupidly superstitious man.
And next year we'll have a slim model I assume. Whatever, I have a PS4 already and I don't plan buying another one just because.
Good news for me! I'm still enjoying my Ps3 and my old PS consoles too...i want a new model, like this one to jump into the 'next-gen', but maybe there will be a third model too...
@Riririn I suspect this is more about cutting costs than getting people to double-dip.
@get2sammyb You're probably right. But are the parts "worst" then?
@Riririn Unlikely. Over time they find ways to improve the hardware and bring the price down. This seems like a stop-gap before full-scale PS4 Slim to me.
@get2sammyb That's good then. PS4 will continue to sell like ice cream in the summer. lol
If they add a couple of usb sockets in the back I'm sold. Can't stand having the controller charge with the cable hanging out the front. It will il so be handy to hide a media drive round the back.
@rjejr: So you know how I was telling you I might get Splatoon for either my Birthday or Father's Day gift? Well, instead my wife pretty much tells me to go buy a PS4 instead! I'm going to probably get the Arkham Bundle and look for a store that will give you a $50.00 gift card with the purchase of a new console.
Also, what do you mean the Batman bundle cost more? It's still $399.99 and includes a disc copy. Unless you are talking about the Limited Edition bundle?
@ruckus757 would you mind providing a link to that 4tb hdd?
@Ryno: Oh man if you get that PS4 toss me your PSN info buddy. (Btw Happy Belated Father's day to you bud).
@Tasuki: Thanks man! Yes, I will definitely add you to my list!
This is good, but I'm still going with a 2TB hard drive. Yeesh, this is the most worried I've ever been about tech.
Actually, after seeing 4TB, I want that instead. Size Matters.
@Ryno - "Limited Edition bundle"
Well yeah, I meant that 1.
You should hold out for the college band colored MGSV bundle. Well unless you'ld rather have Batman for your birthday, which I fully understand, I've seen very little of it but it looks awesome.
Happy birthday.
@rjejr: Maybe I should wait for that MSGV bundle since I bought my PS3 when the MSG4 bundle came out. The red does look pretty sweet though. I'm just not into paying $50.00 for the color variants.
Now I feel more conflicted between this Batman bundle or waiting closer to Bday and getting MGSV bundle, decisions decisions.
I love White PS4 so if it is common I will definitely get one.
Sony announced several games I am interested in but they won't show up until 2016 the soonest, so I can wait until they either announce this SKU or drop the price on the current one.
@Ryno -"I'm just not into paying $50.00 for the color variants."
Maybe there will be a PS4 price drop by MGSV, and in the meantime you can play Splatoon.
Edit: Did I ever tell you Nintendo announced both the lower 32GB price and WW HD bundle about a week after I bought my Wii U for Pikmin 3? After Iwata saying repeatedly for 6 months they wouldn't lower the Wii U price.
@Riririn @rjejr @AyeHaley I'm going to wait for the eventual slim model in Fall 2016. I'll be sad if it costs $400 New though, instead of $300 or even $350.
Hopefully it'll have a 2TB HDD, but if not I can always replace the default HDD.
@rjejr: I got an unopened 3 pack of Splatoon amiibo's if you are interested to go along with that Silver Mario of yours.
The MGSV bundles are PAL only as of now. My guess is it doesn't drop down to #49.99 for until closer to Christmas. The upcoming revised model seems a little tempting though. I kinda want to wait but I kinda just want to get one now, you know, and get the bitter Nintendo taste out of my mouth.
Your problem with your Wii U purchase is that you bought it for Pikmin 3. I, personally, don't see the appeal in Pikmin. I couldn't wait to complete it!
@ToddlerNaruto - slim model in Fall 2016
When I first read that it seemed so far away, then I realized it's just next year.
@Ryno - Talked myself out of Splatoon amiibo. The single player is enough, I don't need to redo it in timed mode, limited ink mode or whatever other "challenges" there are, I'm a wuss.
Forgot MGS bundle was the other side of the pond, guess it's Batman for you then.
Wii U purchase was for Pikmin 3, the day after the W101 demo released on a Friday after a ND and 2 weeks before Pokemon Rumble U, which was no more than a tech demo. A tech demo for nothing in particular. Can't believe we wasted $18 on it. And a few weeks after my birthday, and I always have to buy myself expensive tech for my birthday, it's what I do. Oh, and Target gave me a $50 GC, which I think I used to buy Pikmin 3.
But I was still mad when after all those denials they lowered the price, but moreso b/c the WW HD model had a cool Gamepad design, and WW HD is better than Nintnedo Land.
But we certainly have gotten our moneys worth at this point, we have 10 boxed games and several good downloads, including WW HD free w/ MK8. And now we have an excuse to buy the DK Skylanders game.
Oh, and buy PS4 now, before your wife changes her mind or forgets she told you too. Your engine will fall out of your car if you wait. I hate unexpected big car repair bills.
@rjejr Yup haha . Fall 2016 is one year and a few months away from now .
I've got plenty of PS3 games in my backlog to keep me busy, plus I plan on owning both a Xbox 360 and a Wii U soon.
@rjejr: Haha... Yeah, I better buy it now before something "happens" and needs the money.
So I went browsing a local store (similar to a regional Target) and was disappointed to see that Xbox One had a "get a free game with console purchase" but the PS4 did not. I will just hold out until I get something in addition to Batman. Xbone is getting really aggressive with their pricing strategies and it is just flat out embarrassing that the Wii U w/ 3D World is still $299.00.
@Ryno - "and it is just flat out embarrassing that the Wii U w/ 3D World is still $299.00."
It really is hard for me to believe that Nitneod could be any worse with anyone other than Reggie or Iawata at the helm.
The fact that Wii sold over 100mil in 5 years and Wii U is barley at 10mil in 2 1/2 yeas means they should have all been fired by now. That's not a slight dip, that's compeltley pissing away a company's domination. Xbox going from $500 to $400 to $350 in about a year just makes Wii U look that much worse. 3DS went from $249 to $169 in 3 months, at least that showed some leadership. And look at 3DS now, 50mil. Wii U never sees 50mil, they'll be lick to hit 20mil at this point, and they've already said that number is a failure.
Corp briefing Q&A w/ Iwata in 2006 (abou tWii, nto Wii U, but I think the sentiment stands.
"How many Wii hardware do you plan to sell in three years from the launch?
Iwata: I do not intend to declare how many Wii we will be selling today, but Wii will be a failure if it cannot sell far more than GameCube did. In fact, we shouldn't continue this business if our only target is to outsell GameCube. Naturally, we are making efforts so that Wii will show a far greater result than GameCube."
This part is cystal clear:
"Wii will be a failure if it cannot sell far more than GameCube did"
Not just more, FAR more.
And here's the logical conclusion, which makes me wonder why they are even going to bother w/ NX:
"In fact, we shouldn't continue this business if our only target is to outsell GameCube."
Click the blue link near the top:
http://www.1up.com/news/iwata-wii-doesn-outsell-gamecube
@Ryno - If you have an old console you are looking to get rid of Gamestop wants to make you an offer.
http://form.e.gamestop.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=c3438269219886a1b9b2d9b9dd8037d0
Just b/c my last reply didn't seem long enough.
I still have a buggy launch console. The fan can get loud and the PS4 itself super hot. This is after I sent it in already thank for the eco friendly/hardware fix Sony >
My PS$ is dying again and I'm it will right after warranty and I promise I'm gonna be pissed and yelling at them!! (vent done)
@rjejr Nice Deal!!
I'm just gonna upgrade my PS4's hard drive myself, screw buying another one.
@wittypixel just take the lid off and blast into the fan area with some compressed air. Yeah, you invalidate your warranty by fiddling, but my warranty has already expired and loud consoles irritate me. I've done it a couple of times now, and my launch PS4 is still whisper quiet.
@rjejr: I have the 80 GB MSG4 B/C PS3 (upgraded to 320) so they probably not like to trade it in for me. But I am going to keep my PS3. got way to many retro games I can play on from the Sega collection to the PS2 Taito & Capcom collections.
Nice write up on Nintendo too. They arrogance than the often times compete disregard for everything they said previously never ceases to amaze. I don't know how Iwata and Reggie still have their job's. Well actually I do, they need good P.R. guys that don't care about their own image. Man, I'm salty. The past couple of months have put me over the the top. I'm tempted to submit a guest column to NinLife titled something like "It's not me, it's you. Why I'm moving on"
@Ryno - ""It's know me, it's you. Why I'm moving on""
You have my 1-UP vote. I don't see us a getting an NX anytime soon. My boys are getting older, I believe my best course of action is to steer them on the Sony path, b/c I'm afraid as they get older and wiser they'll see me as a fool for supporting Nintendo and go the way of the dark side. (it's an irrational dislike of MS, I admit, but it's a palpable dislike) I won't have my teenage sons grow up as gameless pariahs. Though as a 2nd console it does have it's place for some 1st party games, but at some point you trade in MK for GT, SSB for SFV, Splatoon for SW:Battlefront, Yoshi for Ratchet and Clank, SMM for LBP. And then add on all the other games Nintnedo doesn't get like Batman, AC, Mad Max, MGS, FFXV and KH3.
Nintnedo HQ simply doesn't get it.
@rjejr: Would you be my editor? I meant to say "It's NOT Me..." I'm sure you knew what I was getting at though. Nintendo consoles are truly a secondary console. And your equivalents for Nintendo to Sony games are pretty spot on. My boys are only 2 and 3 months so I have quite a while before they become old enough to know the difference between PlayStation/Xbox and Nintendo but like you pointed out you need to make sure that they don't think their father was a "fool." Boy's want to respect their father.
I bought a Wii U at launch and I have enjoyed it but I am not buying a Nintendo console at launch probably ever again. It will be interesting to see what their next attempt at the Video Game market will be. And that's the thing though, with Sony and Microsoft you know you are getting more power and an upgraded controller. With Nintendo it seems like they are just throwing darts at a dart board and see what sticks.
@Ryno - I saw the typo, but my commenting on somebody's else typo, well, the pot calling the kettle black doesn't even begin to measure how foolish I would look. And it was obvious what you meant.
And those are some young'uns you got there, I don't think you have to worry about any of this stuff w/ them yet. I think all my 2 year old played was Godzilla: Destroy all Monsters Melee on Gamecube and Godzilla: Save the Earth on PS2, and they were basically the same game. Close enough for a 2 year old anyway.
And all my 10 year old plays now is Minecraft. Well he didn't until yesterday when somebody hacked his account and now we can't get on and his email inbox is flooded w/ sign up trash from somebody named xxLucasGamerBrxx. And MS paid $2.5B for it but there is NO PHONE NUMBER or even text chat, so my son is screwed.
@AhabSpampurse I agree with you completely and I'm very good with hardware still under warranty though so until then. I'm stuck
@rjejr: Help! Talk me out of this. I'm close to purchasing a 1TB Xbox One w/ Halo: The Master Chief Collection + $50 Microsoftstore.com code + Free Game (Probably The Witcher III) for $399.00 along with preordering Rare Replay at $30.00 with a $10 Microsoftstore.com code for a total of $60 Microsoftstore.com code/another free game (Phantom Pain most likely)
@Ryno - Guess I picked a bad time to be offline for 5 hours huh? Sorry to be out of touch in your time of need.
OK, here goes - Don't do it, you can buy 4 Wii Mini for that price!!
Considering our relationship is based almost entirely on the Wii Min's existence, and this is a Playstation site, discussing an Xbox purchase seems a bit off topic even for us.
Well the MS hater in me is screaming "No don't do it get the PS4 instead", but those $ do look good I think (it's late and I'm a bit glossy eyed). Though I have heard bad things about the H:MC collection being broken or something, and nobody really needs 1TB, that's just marketing - X1 even works off of external HDD just like Wii U:
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/42862/20150328/best-external-hard-drive-for-xbox-one-how-to-choose-and-what-to-buy.htm
Uncharted 4. Ratchet & Clank. Horizon. I guess it all depends on those 3. I'm still not convinced TLG ever sees the light of day.
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