There's one thing that you really need to know about me: I worry – a lot. For as long as I can remember, I've had irrational reactions to almost everything in my life: did I just put my modest size eight shoes in my mouth? Did I just get that exam question wrong – even though I've triple checked it twice? Have I mucked up my Bloodborne playthrough because that wheelchair dude from the Hunter's Dream has vanished from my game? You get the idea; when there's nothing to worry about, I worry about that.
For someone as irritatingly uptight as me, then, cloud storage took a real weight off my mind. Previously, I was always terrified that I was going to lose years of save files on my PlayStation 3 – but knowing that I could copy all of them to the cloud when the feature eventually arrived put my mind at rest. I uploaded everything – around five years' worth of data – and breathed a sigh of relief once it was stored on Sony's servers. No hardware failure could ever take away my progress after that – well, barring a huge disaster at PlayStation HQ. Yeah, that was still a worry.
The point is that I've come to rely on PlayStation Plus cloud saves, and I've uploaded hundreds of files from my PS3 and Vita; my PlayStation 4, however, remains a different and frustrating matter.
It's a strange one: I've uploaded every save from eight years' worth of gaming on my PS3, and I still have a few hundred megabytes of spare space left. Meanwhile, I've only been playing the PS4 for around 18 months, and I've already had to delete items from my 1GB of allocated space because I haven't got enough room left to store more. So, what's going on? Well, a quick look at the system's settings tells me that PS4 files are hilariously bloated: DriveClub's eating up 325MB of storage space on save files alone; Octodad: The Dadliest Catch a further 75MB; SingStar a head scratching 1.08GB.
That's all of my cloud storage space gone and then some – across three games.
Yes, you're right: I only really care about my player progress in all of these titles, and when you strip away all of the bloat files, you're looking at about 40MB of save data between the three. However, that's still an enormous figure compared to the PS3, which could squeeze three or four saves into about 500KB. What's changed? It's not entirely clear – though it is nice to see recent first-party releases like Bloodborne and Super Stardust Ultra plumping up for much more manageable 3MB files.
But irrespective of reason or future changes, my problem right now remains the same: cloud saves aren't giving me peace of mind anymore – in fact, they're giving me a headache. Sony's new console is great at managing things while in Rest Mode, but almost every time I turn my system on these days, I'm greeted with an 'Upload Failed' error message – and every time I'm out of space. The device makes it simple enough to delete any bloat, but it's still giving me additional work – and, with all that worrying lark, I often ponder whether I've deleted something important.
There's a simple enough solution, of course: just give me more cloud space. I know that I'm already getting a good 3GB across all three of my PlayStation platforms, but this is miniscule when you consider that Amazon offers up 5GB just for having a customer account. I hate to use the lazy Microsoft comparison, but the Xbox One offers unlimited cloud storage space; fair enough the Redmond firm owns and operates its own Azure server farm, but there's no difference in the price between PlayStation Plus and Xbox Live Gold.
I appreciate that this entire article may well come across whiny and entitled; you're free to roast me in the comments for being a worry pot. Do you know what, though? I don't care, because I appreciate the peace of mind that cloud storage enables me, and I want it to be better on the PS4. This isn't a problem that's going to affect everyone, I understand that – but if Sony wants to please all of its customers, then it will at least consider upping the amount of PlayStation Plus cloud storage space. Well, either that, or it could fix the broken saves system so I'm not uploading hundreds of megabytes at a time.
Do you have cloud save anxiety, or is Sammy coming across like a silly billy? Run out of room in the comments section below.
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1GB per PS3, Vita, and PS4 is as stupid as it gets. Not to start a flame war but how is MS handling cloud storage?
Edit : Also since any plus member has 3GB space for all platforms combined, we should have the freedom to fill out that 3GB with only PS4 if we choose to do so.
Every time I delete something to make more space, I get sad
@iARDAs It's unlimited, I believe.
@get2sammyb than Sony needs to straighten up and increase that storage space soon. Sure it won't happen overnight but they need to step up their game. 1GB is a joke for PS4.
Yes this is worst than running out of system storage space
So jealous I don't get so much time to game Sammy I'd loan you some of mine if I could
Absolutely! Either Sony needs to upgrade the cloud storage space or work with developers to reign in the save file size.
I've had this problem for some months now. Deleting things like Drive Club ghosts provided a temporary fix, but PS4 save files need to get smaller and cloud storage space bigger.
Ran into this problem for the first time a couple of months ago. It's bothers me alot. I can only imagine how it would be in the future with the ps4 library expanding..
@get2sammyb I was unlucky enough to have to return my PS4 after nearly a year. As you can imagine I had plenty of games by that time and I didn't realise the saves were not all backed up to the cloud. You can imagine how gutted I was when to learn that I had lost saves across multiple games. Games that I had put in well over a hundred hours into.
Considering you need PS+ for online multiplayer on PS4 (yes, I know, there are ecceptions), and PS4 save files seem to be the issue, seems like a simple solution would be unlimited on PS4 (or maybe even 5 to start), keep PS3 and Vita at 1 each. Simple.
I agree completely! Between SingStar, LittleBigPlanet 3, and Disney Infinity 2.0 (Only for the kids. I swear!) I've got no space left, either. It's ridiculous.
Yea the cloud storage situation sucks on the Playstation brand. Though I suppose since it's "free" and more of a convience than necessity, then they can't be bothered with upgrading us.
@get2sammyb @iARDAs though a point of clarification, XBox One has unlimited cloud storage. On the XBox 360 side of things, I think you get around a meager 512MB...
I always after i finish a gaming session back up my game save to USB. Wouldn't mind more cloud save space tho but my main back-up will be my saves to USB. I did it to for the PS3.
@Carl-G it's a sad fact that I've HAD to do this lately cos my cloud is full. I find this ridiculous, and a backward step considering today's capabilities.
Nice to see this article. I thought I was alone in my daily rant about lack of space.
I use my 16gb flash drive. I'm fine with that and it's faster than uploading game saves.
I actually just ran out of room a few days ago, most saves are 10MB, while apatheon is 340mb, that had to go don't know why it's a save is the size of 1/4 of the game.
Also own a couple externals, every six months I back up game safes, clean the fan vents, and take a couple qtips and clean the crevices of my controllers.
more than cloud storage what I want is full external HD support or at least the option to back up and restore files "a la carte" from an external HD
Funny thing is that you can upload saves only on account with PS+. So if you have 2 accounts on one console, you need to buy PS+ for every account, to be able to upload saves. What a stupidity, if you ask me, hate you Sony.
This is just another example of why Sony are going to be left behind in the digital era of gaming. Their strenghts simply dont lie in the areas where gaming is moving.
Fed up of seeing "cannot upload save file"
I've started to put the save files I want to keep on a USB stick,hope Sony sorts it out real soon please.
I'm running out too around 300 mb left, between 300+ plus save files, I'm a little worried too...
Yeah, I thought about it a month after I got my PS4. It is worrying, but as long as someone tweets mr. Yoshida or any PlayStation official, then sooner or later the issue will get "caught" on their radar.
When save files are over a couple of meg they are bloated, Everything this gen is bloated - whatever happened to good coding? A gig should be enough for save files easy over thousands of games.
@iARDAs
i agree when i first got my ps4 and ps plus that ones one thing made me so mad that i dont own a ps3 or vita but cant use the cloud space it would of used on ps plus. And game companys really need to learn how to code or compress their game files wwe 15 takes up 872megs for its save.
@craigbigedd
thats where the new backup system comes in handy i bought a cheap hp 16gig low profile flashdrive just for backing up my saves every week or so.
I'm sick of running out of HDD space. I keep juggling games and don't feel like going through the headache of swapping hdds
I agree, I get tired of the upload issues due to lack of space. I wonder how much thought was put into new console storage space. I constantly have to delete files from the cloud. That's not to mention the HDD space. Even with a 2 TB HDD, I have under 1 TB left.
I really couldn't care less even tho I had ran into the issue a few months ago. If spending a couple of minutes deleting a few greedy saves from the cloud storage is too much for you, you have issues. 1GB is enough. I'd prefer to have the choice of what to be uploaded like I've always done with important Vita & Ps3 saves, instead of the Ps4 doing all saves automatically. That's the only issue with it really.
@MadchesterManc our cloud provider at work charges 24p per month per GB for highly resilient storage (and you can get way cheaper than that). It's crazy that I have to regularly spend valuable time administrating how my 1GB is allocated for this amount of money. If cost is an issue, just give me an option of paying £2 per month more to have 10 GB (or whatever amount is fair based on their costs if they run their own infrastructure). I'd do that just to remove the hassle and know my saves are protected.
There also needs to be an option to only upload game saves, and not all the other crap!
@Ps4all HDD are dropping in price pretty quickly. I just upgraded to a 2tb drive for under $70usd. After deleting and reinstalling a few games due to space issues, it became a no brainer. I now have over 25 games installed and all their updates and still have over 1tb of space left.
@get2sammyb Its the frequency thats annoying.
Every time I get a new game BOOM, cannot upload!
The limit of 1GB is rediculous. I haven't run out of space yet, but I'm amazed I haven't right now. Why on Earth do we only 1GB!? Why can't we upload everything? It should match want MS does. I mean, how it is going to be abused? And who's gonna be able to abuse it above 10GB (only from abuse mind you, by which I mean making data for the cloud to fill it if) if you want to really give them credit. I don't see what could go wrong with unlimited. If it doesn't protect virtually all your data, it's not doing it's job.
It hasn't affected me yet, since I only save the more important ones to cloud, but I can see where the problem would be. Hopefully people will bombard them on social media, till they realize the problem exists.
I have ran out of space months ago!! I hope they expand it. We should all send messages to everyone at Sony. Yoshida will at least listen.
Ran out of storage the other day... Noticed Apotheon had uploaded a save file that was 304MB... .... ....
But yes, this needs to be fixed since it seems like all save files are minimum 11MB. It's like the save container itself for PS4 games is 11MB even though the actual save might only be a few KB. 1GB isn't enough.
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