Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII Strikes This Fall

Everyone gets off the monorail looking normal and fine. Lightning gets off the monorail looking like a complete idiot. facepalm!!!

It looks like this title will have a few similar aspects to the Persona series. I'm really glad Noel made it into this title as I feel his character has the most room to expand compared to the rest of the FFXIII party (including Lightning)

Is anybody really that excited for another FF XIII? I just can't help but feel like SE is going overboard with this. I'd much rather get Kingdom Hearts 3. Or if they want to keep going with the FF XIII why not just release Vs. already? Seems like the best stuff to come out of this company these days are games they publish like Sleeping Dogs and Deus Ex.

@Gamer83 From the vibe I get with comments around the web, the FF community is fair excited about this title compared to XIII-2. The reason they are expanding so much on the world of XIII is due to costs and time according to the producer. He mentioned that it takes a considerable amount of time to develop these worlds and characters. They originally planned XIII to be a rich enough world/time with deep characters so that they can build and produce games much quicker.

I'm looking forward to FFXV, but I'm sure it will be next gen. For now, Lightning Returns is probably the game I look forward to most in 2013 (I'm guessing Beyond will be pushed to 2014)

Anybody really think this game is coming out when they say, it is, after all, Square Enix

Must be multiplatform, inconsistent framerate.
Also, female protagonist in rpg? when was that ever successful? .......amateurs

^You're only making yourself look like an "amateur" with that sexist remark.

OT: I think this game looks like it's worth a shot. It seems different enough from the other two.

Judging from that video they should have named it Lightning's Creed.

I think I'm done w/ FF games until they remake 7. Not that I only like 7, I really liked 8, and 9 was really good, and 10 was great, but X-2 was one of the worst games I've ever played, and 11 was online so I skipped it, and 12 was Monster Hunter which was fun or what it was but it wasn't a FF game, and 13 was useless.

Good thing Level 5 came along.

^ "X-2 was one of the worst games I've ever played"
Female protagonist...

@goldgin: Terra was the focus of FFVI, and she did just fine as the protagonist. Knock it off with the sexist crap, will you? It's not the gender of the character that counts, it's how they're written. :/

@theblackdragon This is true. The quality of the character writing in XIII and XIII-2 was generally... (this may sound harsh) awful. Unsurprisingly, I've been called sexist for saying Lightning was and is one of the worst FF protagonists ever made. Got no problem with a female lead, it's just that Lightning is, frankly, a terrible character.

I was talking about sales and popularity, I am not sexist, what does this have to do with anything I've said? I don't know why they are not popular but I could try giving my short experience below:
I loved X, after spending a few hours on X-2 it just never felt engrossing as I am male and the character female. Considering there is traditionally romance in jrpgs, it just made no sense. This doesn't occur in other game types with female protagonists like Tomb Raider or Metroid, as they are not rpg's. I can't imagine playing Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Mass Effect or The Witcher as a female on my first play-through either.
I like the option on my second play-throughs. I am also sure the ever-increasing female gamers out there enjoy picking a female character in some of those games. Until they exceed male gamers, male protagonist games will sell better... that's all.

@goldgin: You might not be able to imagine it, and you might not like it, but perhaps if the character had been written better you might have enjoyed it and wouldn't be blaming your experience on the gender of the protagonist. There's also a good chance that, even had the protagonist been male, you still wouldn't have liked the game. The problem is that we don't know (and probably never will), and thus it's not fair to jump to conclusions like that based on the gender of the character alone, without taking into account other variables. Whether you believe it or not, you are being sexist when you do that.

@theblackdragon, please check thefreedictionary.com/sexist.
I am happily married with 2 children, I would appreciate it if you didn't call me sexist again unless you know what it means. I would be sexist if I said female gamers can't play games, or if I said games with female characters are crap. I am not sexist when I provide statistics about female protagonists.
I called Square-Enix amateurs for not paying attention to this statistic, even more-so at a moment when FF games are at risk of bad criticism.
Mario sells because he saves the Princess and not the other way around. It is statistically true, not my fault, and not called sexist.

@goldgin: You're not quoting statistics because you have none to quote. There is no hard research into this kind of thing, and therein lies the problem. You're sitting there and using your own anecdotal evidence to try and say that female protagonists don't work based solely on their gender without looking at past examples (I did mention FFVI, one of the most beloved FF games, didn't I?) and considering that there could be other variables beyond the gender of the protagonist that could be the reason why people think Lightning sucks.

And straight from the page you told me to look at, the second definition: "Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender." Seems to describe what you're doing here in this thread to a T.

I'm not going to continue derailing this comment thread any further. If you have anything else to say to me personally, you're more than welcome to use the Contact Form to get in touch. However, you might want to take a good, hard look at the things you've said here and try to consider them from an outsider's viewpoint. Perhaps that will help you to see your words as I have, and see why someone may consider you to be a sexist when you say (and insinuate) such things. :/

_{again, if you want to continue it privately, the Contact Form is open to you — TBD}

Am I the only one around here who is f'ing sick of Lightning and XIII in general? I feel like this isn't a good enough Final Fantasy to be throwing around this many games. VII pushed it too far, and I was hoping it wouldn't happen again. If anything, more XII sequels or maybe, gasp, a NEW Final Fantasy!