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minecraftaddict4

If we have full dive VR would there still be people living in real life? Maybe it comes down to personal preference? I am referring to VR brain implants,BCIs or a VR chip connected to a central Ai computer not VR headsets, googles, etc? I am asking hypothetically since i know that full dive VR is still a while away

I know that we need to eat and drink etc but maybe using life support machines to take care of our bodily functions, also I know we need money, but I am sure we can also make money using VR

Maybe in a 100% automated and self-sustaining world?

Or we could have the majority people who spend the majority of time in the real world (in other words split time between real life and FIVR), or some people who spend their entire lives in full time.

If you were to give a rough estimate what percentage of people would stay in the real world instead of using these devices? 25 Percent maybe

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themcnoisy

@minecraftaddict4 You have thought a ton about this and your brain is going overtime. VR is great, however it has some pretty major drawbacks which prohibit it from becoming a full on new life. That said Astrobot and Statik have been revolutionary to me and I haven't been able to enjoy a 2d game as much since, so in that repect I can definitely see people becoming addicted to VR.

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RogerRoger

@MadAussieBloke They've given us Star Trek, Tomb Raider, Batman and Star Wars games on PSVR and I haven't even flinched yet, but give me Murder, She Wrote in VR and I'd be there!

@minecraftaddict4 I'm not sure these are questions we'll be addressing in our lifetime, but I can certainly see the origins of this being an issue for the next generation. Wasn't there a recent breakthrough in trying to upload a human consciousness to a computer? Preserving memories at least, if not active brain patterns. So we're due a big leap in the next half-century, for sure.

I sincerely doubt that it'd be 25% of the global population choosing to live outside of VR, though; if anything, it'd be closer to 25% living in VR, and the rest leading "natural" lives. There's a limit to how much artificial construct humans can take. Oh sure, there'd be some who are perfectly happy doing so, but they'd be in the minority. Most of us have a drive to build, to explore and to do something meaningful with our lives and I like to think that these traits will forever be impossible to fully suppress.

I do think that the type of VR living you describe could be really useful for long-haul space exploration. If crews have to survive for years, if not decades, before they reach their destinations then "plugging in" for virtual stimulation could be a definite solution to the various mental stresses of such isolation.

Might sound like science fiction, but we're closer to making such voyages than you think.

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themcnoisy

@RogerRoger 'Might sound like science fiction, but we're closer to making such voyages than you think.'

To Jupiter and Mars VR could be helpful. But anything outside are solar system is a waste of time even thinking about right now. The closest solar system is 4 light years away.

I will say that again. 4 light years away. 4 years of something going the speed of light which on earth seems instantaneous. I'm being honest here and trying not to put a downer on anything, but unless we find some super new technology we are not leaving this solar system as the current human race!

It is estimated to take anywhere between 5000-80000 years to reach alpha centurai using current tech. The lower figure using super nuclear energy the longer estimate using Ion engines. Its unfeasable as we would have to go with either electromagnetic propulsion or Ion engines else risk a nuclear catastrophe. 15000 years minimum is more realistic.

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RogerRoger

@themcnoisy Oh yes, I absolutely meant within our solar system. It takes something like seven years to get to Uranus, for example; that kinda thing, if we ever wanted to go that far.

And for my money, I think electromagnetic propulsion will be the breakthrough that sticks.

@MadAussieBloke I don't even wanna begin to speculate what kinds of mission objectives such a game would entail but hey, each to their own!

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themcnoisy

@RogerRoger Oh yeah. Went off on a tangent there.

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@MadAussieBloke That went in a much better direction than I'd feared. I'd play those GIFs!

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RogerRoger

@KALofKRYPTON Agreed.

Although I'm fascinated to see just how many random Angela Lansbury GIFs @MadAussieBloke has squirreled away (I don't need to know why, though).

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KALofKRYPTON

@MadAussieBloke If you can follow that with a Magnum PI crossover gif, you win the day at least!

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