@Ralizah Modern Warfare is pushing 200 GB now. It’s utterly mad. I’m just not very good at managing games, I dip in and out of different games meaning I have loads installed at the same time.
@Ralizah Nah, I don't think so. SSD space is also limited on PS5. It will probably be fine for PS5 games, but I think PS4 games will be relatively big in comparison and clutter up the SSD really fast.
@Octane PS5 uses the Kraken decompression technology, so games sizes as we know today will be no more. I've not looked back since I got my external drive, they are really not that expensive these days.
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@Ralizah My kids still use the PS3 and the Wii, but I only game on the PS4. And most of the games that I play tend to have really large install sizes, 50gb and up. (almost exclusively RPGs and sports). And then many of those also require a large amount of room to ALWAYS be free for updates as well, which is maddening.
I don't really have any plans to move saves from the PS4 to the PS5. I'll probably load Madden and MLB The Show once I get it, but I'll just start with new franchises in those at that point, and if I want to play a game that I've already completed once, I'll just start over with that too. For example when all of the DLC is available for The Outer Worlds, or if there are expansions for Ghost of Tsushima.
Beyond that, I'm now pretty much in a holding pattern, waiting for the PS5 to come out. At this point, its highly unlikely I'll buy any more games before then.
@JohnnyShoulder I'll transition mine to become the third Blu Ray player in my house. We have a TV on a level that doesn't have one at the moment. And then when my kids want to play their PS4 games, they can use that one, and I'll use the PS5 in my man cave.
@KisekiFan7 It depends on the model but hard drive failed unpredictably at a rate of about 1% or 2% a year.
Failed means any hard drive it’s causing the software running off it to crash more frequently in most cases the data is still recoverable.
Most of the research on hard drive reliability comes from data centres. You may experience worst performance if you drop it repeatedly or doesn’t power it up for over a year.
Whilst hard drive do fail in their warranty period. I believe most of the hard drives in the original Xbox are still working. So hard drive can keep going without problems for a very long time.
@Octane Was comparing mechanical hard drives to SSDs and SSDs are more reliable.
@KisekiFan7 Yeah, SSDs are far more reliable. HDD have a bit of a wonky reputation. For off-the-shelf external HDDs, the lifespan of its first four years looks something like this (this is a study based on 25,000 hard drives):
source: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/
Several companies have done similar experiments, with similar results. In theory they can last for a decade, but the failure rate is probably something like 50% at that point. But there are a number of factors that increase/decrease its lifespan: daily usage for example, ambient temperature, humidity, etc. This data is based on heavy usage, so your HDD will probably fare better, but it's worth keeping in mind. I personally wouldn't use a HDD for long-term storage (10+ years).
There was a time when people thought that CDs and DVDs would decay and fail the same way that VHS tapes do, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have CDs that I listen to that are over 25 years old, movies that I watch that are 20 years old, and PS3 games that my kids play all the time that are 15 years old. As long as you don't scratch the disc and keep it climate controlled, it should be ok. And if the disc is OK, you should always be able to reinstall the game. The problem, of course, is the manufacturers not making the systems to be fully backwards compatible. I have several dozen PS2 games that I haven't been able to play since my original PS3 died ten years ago.
@Unlucky13 I feel like I should have your username because I've got 9 seasons of X files and 3 seasons of millennium that have some weird form of undocumented disc rot. I've owned the DVDs for about ten years and am currently rewatching them which is how I know about it. Some do clean up but it's hit and miss to be honest. I know my star wars dvds suffer the same fate as I watched them a few years back.
My theory was that 20th century fox just printed their dvds using rubbish plastic because it only seems to be the Fox DVDs that suffer it, and it's not even all my dvds by fox
@ralphdibny I feel for you. That really sucks. I was only able to get broadband where I live two years ago, so I'm still new to Netflix and the like anyways. We still watch DVDs and Blu Rays all the time, and I've never come across an issue with one that wiping it clean didn't fix. Heck, we have kids movies that have been watched hundreds of times with no problem. I keep all of mine in their original cases on a shelf. I know that some people keep movies in binders like music CDs, and I would guess that's not good for them.
@Unlucky13 ah it's ok, getting through it! It is bizarre though, I'm using windowlene (windex in America) and a j cloth to dissolve the skank and perform a minor resurfacing of the disc. Takes a few minutes per disc. That's kind of why I say it's an undocumented form of discrot because the only examples I can find online are of the metals between the layers going rusty whereas mine is the plastic surface decomposing to an extent. These are in their original cases but I think that might be part of it too because they're either slimline cases or 6 disc cases that have the disc basically touching the plastic of the case.
That being said, I've seen lots of official releases that have weird packaging, I have a complete official Deep space 9 box set that is in glossy cardboard sleeves and I've seen another official X files box set that uses the kind of foamy binder material.
@JohnnyShoulder haha or maybe George Lucas as he didn't want people to have access to the unedited star wars films for too long... (Included on disc 2 of my sets!)
I tend to be wary of how things are going as you're no longer owning a game if you buy a game digitally. But I gave up on buying physical games after becoming so frustrated over the years of dying disc drives. I know some are pretty easy to fix but I could no longer be bothered with the tension and stress of wondering when it was gonna fail on you again lol.
I even struggle with space on the Pro though, as my fav games tend to be gigantic. I do need to buy an SSD regardless, as I've got important files on some old Seagate drives that are well over 10 years old. I'm surprised and glad they still work!
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