@JohnnyShoulder Yeah, innovation just for innovation’s sake isn’t necessarily a win. We see plenty of novelty fails like motion controls, most of the touchpad functions, Xbox Kinect, 2nd screen options like Sony’s PlayLink, the WiiU, etc...
But we also get new standards in gaming like asynchronous multiplayer (really started the end of PS3 era), the share button / integrated social network sharing, expansion of digital DLC, and the Switch handheld hybrid. I’m prone to enjoy the usual recipe but also like seeing the fresh ideas trickle in, even when some of them fail.
But yes, developers need not be forced to innovate unless it makes sense within their creative vision. As an example, I fully expect we’ll get some forced use of haptic feedback this next generation where it just doesn’t fit into the gameplay structure, but it could be a game changer for some titles too, so we’ll see.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution I feel like Switch's innovation was probably the first in a long time that truly felt game changing. Even though I don't like the whole mentality behind quote unquote "port-begging" I do understand the desire to have certain games on Switch because of the draw it has through the ability to take it on the go. Motion controls were serviceable for what they were and the GamePad was cool in concept but just failed to live up to its true potential outside games like Mario Maker, but there are a lot of games I just prefer playing on Switch now like Final Fantasy X, Shovel Knight, the Mega Man Legacy Collections and Bayonetta 1/2
Switch's innovation actually doesn't feel like a gimmick like those other examples. It feels like something that has practicality in terms of how people play games.
I'm also definitely picking up Nocturne Remaster on Switch over PS4 and I might get Persona 5 Strikers on both so I can have one version with better performance and one to take on the go.
As you'll no doubt figure out from my username and profile pic, I'm a big Sega fanboy and a massive fan of 90s gaming in general. So I'm pretty biased. But genuinely, even with that bias, I think the PS4 has probably been the strongest and most memorable game platform I've ever owned. Part of that is helped by digital distribution and the frankly ridiculous value we get from sales these days, but I've never found it so difficult to narrow down a "greatest games of the generation" list. It's really been staggeringly good.
Funnily enough I sold my PS4 today and packed it off to its new owner, and it suddenly struck me how the relative value of the console has stayed so strong. I got £200 for the console (just an original white 500GB model too, not Slim or Pro or anything) and two controllers, which considering what I bought it for SIX years ago is pretty crazy, taking into account the way phones and tablets devalue, for example. Together with my 4k blu-ray player it's pretty much paid for my PS5!
It was an odd feeling and I felt a bit sad in a way but with backwards compatibility those old games aren't going anywhere and there's definitely a few I'll be replaying on PS5 with upgraded performance. So cheers PS4, it's been a great few years.
Definitely has been a solid generation, I think overall the first party games have been excellent and better than what we had on PS3. Although LBP 1 & 2 were fantastic, so strong competition there. I'd place it above the PS3 and PS2.
I'd still say PS2 was better personally. The PS2 was strong out of the gate while the PS4 took a few years before something worthwhile popped up in my eyes
If I were to make a console tier list, PS4 would be in high A tier, but S tier is reserved for the PS2, Nintendo DS, SNES and PS1.
Yep, PS2 had some pretty amazing games, MGS2 & 3, SoTC, Ico, Timesplitters and Resi 4 all spring to mind. I can definitely see why people rate it so highly.
@LieutenantFatman I never actually played RE4 on PS2; I always just associated it with GameCube. It's honestly a shame that whole Capcom Five project didn't pan out because I'd honestly put that console in the same tier as PS4.
PS2 did indeed have a pretty incredible library. I wouldn't get around to playing games like Colossus or Ico for a few years though. My fondest PS2 memories were with Battlefront 2, SMT Nocturne and Final Fantasy X
I got my PS2 right when my parents were divorcing so I’d probably put it over the PS4 solely due to the memories associated with it. I probably played better games on the PS4 but it didn’t mean the same to me in terms of games like Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 4 and Underground, the old PES games, Timesplitters 2 which I spent hours playing with my older brother. It’s interesting actually that I played a whole lot of the best PS2 games years later such as Persona 3, GTA and Silent Hill 2 and then remasters on other consoles like Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy X and XII, Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3, Resident Evil 4, Devil May Cry 3 and Katamari Damacy. So I’d say the PS2’s library is incredible but many of those games got better versions on the PS3 or PS4 which muddies the question of which console is better.
@nessisonett I'd say in the end PS2 is still better because those games debuted on that console. Like I wouldn't accredit PS4's library for being as good as it was because of Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remaster or DMC HD Collection. It's all about the games that specifically defined it, even though I'd argue Persona 5 was definitely one of them despite also being a PS3 title.
Also I'm surprised your parents still made time to buy you a console when they were clearly not on good terms with each other and were probably working on stuff like the alimony and settlement pay and all that murky asset seperation stuff. That must've sucked.
My rating for PS machines i have:
1. PS2 for DDR, Para Para Paradise, Drummania, K-1
2. PS4 for Dragon Quest Builders 2, The Sims 4 & Portal Knights
3. PS1 for DDR, some quirky Japanese games, Chocobo Racing
4. PSP for Airu de Puzzle, Pop'n Music Portable, FF Tactics, any cute games on PSP
5. PS3 for Ratchet & Clank games, The Sims 3, FF XIII, Racket Sports, Sports Champions 2
@Arugula I'd say PS3 is like a solid 7.5/10. It started off pretty badly and didn't get much in the way of worthwhile software until around 2008 in my eyes with Uncharted 2 and MGS4, but it did definitely pick up the pace where X360 started to stagnate. That being said I'd give 360 an 8 just for being extremely consistent all around. It was a close race.
@TheFrenchiestFry Oh no, my uncle gave us his old PS2 because he felt bad hahaha. This was about 2007 so it was like getting 40 new games at once! Ratchet Gladiator (Deadlocked across the pond) is probably the only game I loved back then that I’ve just never replayed, the HD version’s stuck on PS3 and not on Now. I think I’d count certain remasters as counting towards the success of PS4 for me though, FFXII The Zodiac Age and KH All-in-one spring to mind as either vastly improved or an incredibly good deal. Fair enough about games which received simple ports but some just straight up improved the game.
@Zuljaras I'm with you on that. My day one PS4 Pro really did sound like a jet engine from the day I got it. It became so trying people claiming you needed to clean out dust. The 6 months of the Pro production had real noise issues. I ended up playing multi plats on the One X just because of the noise. My day one base PS4 was not much better. When I first saw the PS5 it did not look well designed for noise, We did not know how big it was at that time. I actually swore off PS5 I was so upset. Some people on PushSquare though I was an Xbox troll I moaned about how loud the PS5 looked so much. So while I don't like the look of the PS5 I am happy with the design under the hood. The big fan will move a lot of air without to much sound. Hears to the next 7 years of quite gaming
A high point for me this generation was getting Shenmue III. Some saw it as a negative, but I loved how it stuck so closely to the look and feel of the first two games.
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