Sony Will Launch PS5 Pro Alongside PS5 in 2020, Says Rumour, But We're Not Convinced

Seems like every rumour that was put out there for the Xbox Scarlett and 'debunked' (re: 2 SKU's at launch and others) is being conveniently recycled for the PS5.
Not gonna believe any of them until Sony sings.

Okay, so if a PS5 with baked in SSD with enough space to hold games that are already upwards of 100GBs per SKU (At least 1TB, 2TB minimum ideal with how sizes are inflating!) with its touted technical specification already seems ludicrously expensive less Sony takes one hell of a loss per unit....how much will a Pro cost?

Coz here's the thing. A beefier console over the PS4 Pro with an SSD seems feasible for $400. A much beefier console at the spec we keep hearing about for PS5, but without an SSD at $400 is also feasible.

That spec AND the SSD that is big enough for modern gaming doesn't seem doable without huge losses on production.

So a Pro? For the PS5? Absolutely not. That would make the Xbox One X look cheap, then again, Sony keeps saying this will be a price that is "Acceptable" to the hardcore.

I know Microsoft and Sony always usually take losses on their hardware, but I dont know if Sony is leaning more towards a PS3 style loss per unit here, and that was being sold for around half of what it cost to make, and it was still $500.

I'd hope to god not, but they are promising a lot of juice and storage at high speeds in a consumer level box using tech that isn't even out yet.

And that sets alarms in my wallet. I just cant see it.

Given the details about the PS5 components, I can't see there being a need for a Pro.
Let's remember that the PS4 Pro was born to take advantage of people who wanted something extra shiny to plug into their new 4K TVs.
As 8K TVs are still £10,000 plus and extremely rare (not surprised at that price!) then the PS5 should be perfectly capable for a number of years before any revision is needed.

I had to laugh at this rumor lets get the Ps5 out the door first before the Pro talk lol

I would buy the ps5 pro definitely.i got a ps4 pro so why not a ps5 pro.word ☝ up son

i don't think they will release a Pro alongside a standard one, if anything they would release a Pro part way through like they did this gen

i can see them releasing a digital only version alongside the standard one though at a slightly lower price

As much as I would like a PS5 Pro, I do not have the dosh to throw at something like that. Hell, the PS5 is going to be a bloody fortune already.

I think launching a pro in this generation was a mistake lets hope they do not repeat the same mistake next generation.

@FullbringIchigo "i can see them releasing a digital only version alongside the standard one though at a slightly lower price"

That's certainly a better option than a "Pro".

After what happened with both the PS3 and Wii U which had 2 skus at launch, ie both sold poorly at launch, the idea of 2 models at launch seems like a really bad idea. And selling a $499 PS Next alongside a $799 PS Next Pro seems like an even worse idea.

I can believe 2 skus at launch, but not a Pro, we're looking at a PS Next and PS Next Lite scenario. The Lite having a HDD instead of an SSD, maybe being all digital only like the SAD. So $399 Lite $499 standard.

But I still think it's a bad idea to have 2 sku, unless they think the standard w/ an SSD will just be too expensive so they have to sell one with a HDD to hit a certain price point. But they won't have a Pro at launch, b/c then what do they launch 2 years later? Proier Pro? Pro Elite? Super Pro? Standard and Lite, maybe. Then they can drop the Lite when the price comes down on the standard and the Pro launches a couple of years later.

And if that did happen they really need to combine and/or drop 1 of the current models. Can't try to sell four consoles at once. That's too many for small stores to keep in stock. Even Amazon probably doesn't want that many different PS models. $199, $299, $399, $499. That's too many.

I would say it's highly likely they will offer two types of PS5 at launch. Xbox will be doing it with their next console. All of the phone manufacturers do it, just look at Samsung and Apple. It does make you wonder what they would do mid-gen... presumably a slim model with minor enhancements perhaps?

I don’t believe this rumor, sony will sells ps5 pro 3 years after ps5 launch, just like ps4.

Doubtful... The PS4 Pro was to reflect improved graphics and the increase in power on the PC market so the PS4 generation could last longer.
Doing so with the PS5 would drastically limit the possibilities for the future generation since all games will need to be compatible with the low cost PS5

The technology to power this Pro model may not even be available in 2020. There is only so much they can fit into the APU and judging by the >2 times performance gain on the PS4 Pro, we are looking at a machine upwards of 18 Tflops. No way an APU could have done that in 2020.

Doubtful we'd get two models of PS5 at launch. Usually don't get another model of a console until a few years after release.

Unless the PS5 is going to be less competent than we are expecting a pro at launch would be big, heavy, noisy and prohibitively expensive.

@zazzy Why let the best to be the enemy of the good?

600 or less and the pro will hurt ps5 vanilla sales i think. 600 or less and id bypass standard ps5. This is all a load of crap

I hope not, it wouldn't be worth it. Isn't the PS5 already predicted to be priced a bit higher than the PS4 was at launch? That could put the Pro around the $600 or $700 range. They'd probably get less good press too, and a Pro released 3 years down the line would likely be more powerful, run better (i.e. not as loud with a lower chance of overheating) and also cost less than if it were launched alongside the regular.

$400 PS5 and $600 PS5 Pro sounds good.

They see very successful companies like Apple and Samsung releasing basic and pro models of their phones at the same time that cost more than double of what a console cost with great success so why can't Sony try to replicate this with PS5?

I would be on board with this too, that way there can be a PS5 for people with a under $450 budget and PS5 for those of us who would be willing to spend $600+ on a monster console.

Oh look another random rumour 'we are unable to confirm'
Can't wait for the rumours we can confirm as being legit rumours from guys really saying things on youtube.

EDIT
*really saying things while playing Ass creed. Dum dum dum

Hmmm, I'm going to need a bigger Piggy bank.

@Juanalf The difference is that Apple and Samsung release a new phone model every year, whereas consoles can last half a decade or more — hence mid-gen upgrades like the PS4 Pro.

it might be something 'under consideration', doesn't mean they're going to do it. it was rumoured that the next xbox was going to launch with 2 options. the base model would have a GPU around 4Tflps - sounds like it's less than PS4 pro, and XB1x, but with more modern architecture, it'll likely be more capable, and of course a superior CPU to the jaguar. something that might deliver solid 1080p/60fps consistently, and maybe even a decent checkerboard 4k/60fps - add in a SSD for faster loads, and it's a considerable step up from PS4 and even more so the original XB1, and far more likely to be possible under $400 than the 'leaked' specs of PS5/XB2. if it's going to be $600, there is a psychological factor to getting "more for your money", or "getting the best".. release one model at $600, and either company might find that not that many people are willing to pay that much.

@Knuckles-Fajita
The SSD wouldn’t be where the games are stored. It would handle the assets of the game being played. A standard HDD would handle storage, so the SSD wouldn’t need to be too large.

Wouldn't shock me to be honest. Could be a way to handle price, you could have a £300-£350 "lite" PS5 with a smaller hard drive is less focused on 4K and beyond and then have a "Pro" PS5 what is £500+ what has a bigger hard drive and is focused giving out the best image possible on the best screens. That way Sony can have the big expensive console for those who want that while people who can't afford that price can get the cheaper console.

November 2020: PS5 and PS5 Pro

Spring 2023: PS5 Pro+

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Nah.

If there's 2 versions, I suspect one will be with the 'super' SSD they're developing along with a 1GB HDD, and the other will just have the super SSD and leave you to supply your own additional drive.

Or, perhaps, there'll be one with the SSD and one without, as I'm guessing that thing won't be cheap.

Surely the ps5 is launching with the ability to play most content native 4k at 60 fps. What would a pro do over that??

I think this scenario is very possible and I don't see why many disagree with that.
Let's take the current situation for example: If someone goes today to buy a console he will have two options according to his likes. Nothing to complain here, and the current market seems to like that option, with great sales.
I don't see why Sony(or Microsoft) would change that situation next year and get back to "one console at the shelf" option.
After all we all saw that pro models coexist perfectly with base models as far as the games concern.

Imagine if PS4 at launch had basic and pro models. Oh gee this game has lousy frames but on the pro the frames are smooth as silk. Duh, i should have purchased the pro.

Yeah this RUMOR has got more bulls*** in it than an overcrowded pen of male bovines.

The Pro came about as technology advanced. If there is a PS5 Pro it will be in later years once a die shrink or two happens, and they can cram more silicon - or more technology into the same amount of space and power consumption.

Sony didn't create the Pro when the PS4 came out. MS didn't create the X (or even the S) when the Xb1X came out. Nintendo didn't create the New 3ds when the 3ds came out. Etc etc.

Technology advances, and mid generational upgrades are MID generational upgrades. They come when technology drops in price enough that you can create a product for around the original price of the original product.

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Party_Cannon, i agree with your take. A delux model with larger storage and more feature but not a differance in power.

The PS3 launched with two models. The differance was features as both models are the same in performance for playing PS3 games.

I would 100% buy a PS5 Pro day one if true.

@hotukdeals why? I love my pro, was glad to get over the base system.

A pro and base model launched at the same time means the Pro model may be weaker than it could be. The waiting 3 years means the hardware prices drop or better hardware becomes available.

People that want the best of the best at any cost should just buy a PC!

'Nishikawa accurately predicted that Nintendo would release a Switch Lite in 2019. '
That reminds me of the analyst quoted many times in the WSJ who 'correctly predicted the Ps4 slim' and therefore his prediction of ps5 launch in 2018 should be valid somehow haha

Let's call a spade a spade: This rumour is 100% nonsense.

@lacerz That doesn't make any sense. The assets of the games, especially future games with higher textures, higher resolutions and HDR, make up a huge percentage of a game. You would also then have complications where your normal HDD would be restricted on how many games it could hold with regard to all those game's assets being stored on the SSD. Once your SSD was full, no matter how empty your HDD, you wouldn't be able to add more games. Unless of course you're suggesting that only one game's assets would be stored at a time? In which case that defeats the whole objective of the SSD, which was no real load times, because every time you started a game it'd have to load the assets to the SSD and it'd be restricted by the read speed of the HDD. Add to all that, if you know anything about SSDs, the less empty space you have on your SSD the slower it runs. So bigger is always much better. So I think @Knuckles-Fajita is right to be concerned about price. SSDs aren't cheap.

@johncalmc thinking the same thing, getting people to double dip on the cheaper console then when the price comes down for the more powerful model people will upgrade. Lots of people probably did it this gen with the pro and oneX me being one of them 🙄

The only reason I can see for this working is to try and reduce the cost of a base unit and appeal to a cheaper price point and a higher one for the real hardcore early adopters. However, with the level of tech being rumoured, I still can't see a base model being that cheap. Unless there was a pro with built in VR unit that came with the console or something.

I smell bulls***. No way are they gonna take a pro out the same time it makes no sence and no one would buy the standard ps5 if that was the case so why bother at all. Just release the pro version instead than.

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I'd rather they release a legacy console, one that plays PS1, PS2, PS3 and Vita. With a new OS, decent Wifi and no more silly regions.

let's be honest, i would just go for the pro. But if the price of a pro would reach 1000 euros, i would rather build a desktop for little extra.

Edit: Up to 500 euros for base console and up to 700 for Pro maybe? That's still a reasonable price I think, depending on the specs. However this would not be a good price for many customers, and this is like minimum monthly wage in many countries and even in Ireland 700 would be 8 full working days, minus the taxes.

I would hope so, because i think bringing out both of them ad the same time gives me the option to buy the pro.
But if its the same whit this gen then i wil not buy it!
Because why not go for the pc? That i can upgrade.
I bought the slim not knowing that there whas a pro coming as wel.
And so i did not buy it becuase its another 400 or 500 euro.
If they bring out the pro i wil go for that,becuase of the PlayStation titles. I think it an easy money grab tbh first bring out the normal and later the pro becuase they can make it as powerfull as they want becuase motherboard and Actife cu on the motherboard is what they design them self, only choise they make is amd or nvidea to run the software/Games.
But that is desided on what they can sel it for(What people are willing to pay for it) might as wel bring out the pro ad the same time! And say if you want the fastest that is the pro etc etc.

They could also put big navi chip on it and 80 active cu on the motherboard but that wil push up the price and push back release date or go for 2080rtx or what ever its all about what we are willing pay for it