Mortal Kombat 11’s violence is more gratuitous than ever before, but while additional entrails are in, leotards are definitely out. Speaking with Polygon, art director Steve Beran explained that NetherRealm Studios is trying to be a little more mature than before – particularly when it comes to the presentation of its female characters.
“You’re not going to wear a bikini to a fight,” he explained. “You’re not going to be showing so much skin. I think it’s just what the game is about: you’re going in to fight for your life, and you’re not going to be wearing such scantily clad items. I’m sure that will disappoint some fans. We don’t have bathing suit fighters, and I think that’s fine. If people are disappointed, I don’t regret making that change.”
To be fair, a big hook of this new game is its loot system, so the developer doesn’t necessarily want you to be removing gear. But also, we’d argue the character designs are better than they’ve ever been. Look, let’s be honest, there have been some truly ugly models in both Mortal Kombat and Injustice’s collective history, so we’re just happy to see it ditch the eyesores of yore.
[source polygon.com]
Comments 66
Before we get started, friendly reminder: behave!
I'm fine with that. I really like a lot of the characters' designs in 11.
Can you imagine someone like Mileena catching you staring at her rack lol
@get2sammyb Thanks for keeping us abreast
We need to address the REAL issue here.
Mileena still has the weird lips! It’s weird! Just let her keep the entirety of the razor teeth!
Personally I think female characters can still be "sexy" without showing so much skin. Injustice 2 was a good example of that for most of it's female fighters, would rather have more Starfires then MK 9 Sonya.
It just goes to show also about how sexual content in general is been toned down, especially in how it depicts women.
@Sakisa I actually prefer Mileena's new mouth/teeth design. It feels more like a hybrid between human and tarkatan which makes sense since she is like a test tube creation.
Baraka, on the other hand, is full tarkatan and he sports the full teeth look.
That's just me.
Inb4 Sony forced NRS to censor the game!
As a big fan I agree with them ESPECIALLY as the actual character designs are a hell of alot better (just look at Skarlet for crying out loud), and I liked those older designs too but everything needs to evolve.
Cares more about the attire of pixelted females vs the brutalzation of the pixelated human Anatomy... "It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition; and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call The Twilight Zone".
Everyone is the same on the inside. Clothes or not...
Ok, so why does the male characters have shirtless options? You have to be consistent, right?
Not interested in this game, but I'll just say I'd rather have a character in cool, practical looking armor rather than nonsensical scanty anime "armor" any day.
so it's ok to show really Gore violence.but this developerd scare of some breast jiggling and sexy clothes wtf.😒ok.thats ridiculous.i l💖ve me some sexy women with big booty and cleavage.no up son
Dat tagline Sammy 😏😁
@playstation1995 I bet you would even try to Ask Mileena out on a date wouldn't you or is Sheeva your type lol
@Constable_What Awsome actor the real Batman. 😁
@Areus I think Sheeva would destroy me in the sack. 😋
@Flaming_Kaiser That woman would destroy anyone in the sack it would be like that amazon episode from Futurama all over again
@Areus Futurama SNOO SNOO😜
@fenshing Ask them maybe they will patch it up so that all guys have a sweater on. 😉
A game where you have finishers that involve ripping a person's spine out is worried about the realism of wearing a bikini to a fight...
Remember folks, violence? OKAY! Sexuality? EVIL!
It's okay for games to portray grotesque violence and death, but scantily clad women is a big no-no!
@Heavyarms55 Its the other way around in japan
@Flaming_Kaiser Yeah but that would be DLC. $9.99 for Sub Zero in a blue sweater with snowflakes on it.
We need full body armor for every character. Riot gear, helmets, plate armor, and shields! For goodness sake they are fighting for their lives! They need that protection. There are people who shoot fire balls, rip faces off, and have spinning razor hats! Fighting Scorpion? Bring out the bomb disposal suits! Why doesn't Johnny Cage have his helmet on or even a shirt! At least get the man some pasties because his nips are out there for the world to see! Safety first because this is Mortal Kombat, dang it!
I think this is all very silly.
You can tell people who have never been in a fight when they say things like 'you're not going to wear a bikini to a fight.' I mean, duh, but there is a reason MMA fighters, both the men and women, wear as little clothing as they're allowed to get away with.
That's not saying butt floss design for some outfits in MK's past makes a ton of sense, either. Although with fighting games in the kind of ridiculous settings with the kind of ridiculous themes like MK has, I don't think it would hurt to have all sorts of options for costumes, but that's whatever. NR has made its choice, main reason to play MK is for the fatalities anyway. Take everything else out of the game, that's fine, but if it loses the OTT violence and fatalities it ceases to be Mortal Kombat.
@Gamer83 Now butt floss would make a ton of sense for a sumo! Bo' Rai Cho DLC costume! I would actually get that.
I was think about MMA fighters as well. It doesn't make sense using their logic.
But yeah at least the fatalities look cool. Just some of the character designs are a let down. I do like the classic looks they showed better than the new ones. Classic Kung Lao is probably my favorite.
I think it’s all silly to be be honest. But I was never much of a MK guy. Not because of the blood and violence, it’s the gameplay. Better fighting games out there in my opinion.
I want my 8 million shades of pixels
@fenshing
I wouldn't have thought of that kind of costumes as DLC for Bo Raid Cho but since you mention it, it would make sense.
#PixelThree
#PixelRights
@JoeBlogs
Try to imagine a parallel universe where characters in a video game are only pixels. Woah!!!
@JoeBlogs Don't give me that, I totally understand how female characters have been sexualized in gaming. And it IS a problem. I would point out that male characters have, to a lesser extent been as well, and you can try and deny that, but you'd be wrong. Just like women are always portrayed as ideals, men are always sculpted Greek Gods of muscle. The only exceptions being monsters. And I understand the reasoning there. But don't whine about lack of realism in a game where people can rip bodies apart with their bare hands because some female character has an exposed navel or shoulder. If they want to tone down sexualization of characters, then they should admit that's what they are doing and do so in general. Frankly I am sick of this double standard. Immense amounts of violence exist in gaming and no one bats an eyelash until we push into maniacal torture or games where you literally carry out acts of terrorism and mass murder. And even that gets an M rating! But sexual themes, be it men or women, are treated as massively taboo and unacceptable. Have some exposed boobs, AO, censored, can't be on a console. COD can have a level where you gun down civilians in an airport, minor controversy, GTA has a literal torture mini game? M. Hardly talked about.
@Areus No, it's really not. I live in Japan, Japan is mildly more open to sexual themes in fiction, but that is still confined primarily to a specific otaku subculture. In most ways Japan actually treats sexuality even more restrictively than in the west. Which is why, in my opinion, that sexual aspect of otaku culture exists in the first place.
My main point is, this is an M rated, violent and highly adult oriented game, I don't think it is right to be upset by some sexualized characters but not be upset by intense grotesque violence. Why is the former so taboo but the latter no big deal? If this were some children's game I would be in absolute agreement that characters, women or men, should absolutely not be sexualized in any way, but it's not.
@Heavyarms55 when i said the other way around I meant that Blood and Gore is usually Censored in japan while the sexualized part is more tolerated
@Heavyarms55 I think that extreme violence and sexualisation of female characters are just two different issues to tackle with different methods. While violence is obviously a problem for some people, it doesn’t clearly harm one half of the world’s population. I also think calling out double standards is important, but missing the point here since it’s more helpful to stamp out oversexualisation wherever it pops up than to get hung up on semantics. I think that NR have done the right thing here as it makes their game seem a bit more reputable than DOA6.
@JoeBlogs
I was winding you up haha
I believe its the devs decision here so that should be fine with everyone I guess.
Still, there's way, way,waayyy....too much SJW fuss in video games.
Totally fine with this
@JoeBlogs
Options are always good. And .since you brought it up, sure DoA 6 has a lot of the sexualized 'fan service' stuff, but there's also tons of more conservative options. You can also turn on more extreme violence if you like, or keep it turned off since DoA has never been a series big on bloodying or bruising its characters. MK 11 may be more reputable but it's not because of the decision to tone down the female characters. I know people love to pretend women don't enjoy this stuff too but I know plenty who actually do enjoy the more sexualized content. MK could go more over the top with that stuff than Doa and people woud still flock to it for two reasons. The main one being the series is about violence and as long as it has that by the bucket load fans will be there. The second is that more than anyother fighting game studio in the industry NetherRealm knows how to do single player content in addition to having strong competitive multiplayer.
@fenshing Is it practical for men to fight shirtless? Is it practical for women to fight in leotards?
That's the point the developer is making and it's a good one.
But I wanna see Goro in budgie smugglers?
“You’re not going to wear a bikini to a fight”
Oh gosh, you're right. Now that they're properly attired for a fight none of the fatalities are going to work against them! Goodbye cracked bones and perforated organs.
Like it makes a difference.
Lol, what a joke. I love seeing devs act like the female figure is something disgusting to be covered up.
Pretty sexist to cover women up. I remember a time when women fought for the right to be sexy in public but now people are saying thats shameful. When big corporations are agreeing with the talking points of 90s era puritan moralists, you know you're heading in the wrong direction.
I'm can't say i've ever used characters in a fighting game due to the characters looks, or what they are wearing .
Usually more about the move list for me and whether i'm good enough to use them.. but i guess i'm old fashioned.
If they said nothing nobody would have even noticed. People get outraged just for the sake of it. I saw the costumes for the females the look cool what the problem?
Gonna get this game on PC, hopefully someone will mod in some MK9-ish outfits, lol.
This is like the anti DOA stance and every JRPG lol. I get it but if this Sony censoring this sucks. Like the butt from DMC5.
@smythelove this has nothing to do with sony
@Flaming_Kaiser
Definitely agree. Christian Bale is one of favorite actors.
@Jriibz Men aren't just pecs and six packs either. Sure there is good old Bo' Rai Cho but the rest of Mortal Kombat's males are oiled up dudes. So many bare chests and some like Baraka, my favorite MK character, have no pants options, ie loin cloths. Really they could be on the front of a romance novel.... "The Single Mom and the Tarkatan" sounds kinda catchy. So why is that ok but female characters have to look like they are going on a space walk? I'm not saying that junk has to be hanging out, just cant we have some femininity to go with all of the man meat? Or cover them all up and be constant! And for goodness sakes, women can be strong and be feminine. Charity Witt is a good example of that.
I'm ok with those changes. Now, if they were going to change the gory nature of fatalities. . . well, what would be the point of mortal combat?
Wait, so there wont be any sexualities? Lol
You win..... sexuality.
In all seriousness I think the mk11 designs look fantastic! Ive always hated when games shoehorn in pointless sexuality. I mean if it truly suites the character and makes sense then fine ok but NO ONE is going to go into a fight wearing friggin high heels etc lol. So stupid.
People are complaining about Sony on this case as well?
Didn’t know that Sony have acquired Netherrealm Studios, that’s huge news!
@Gamer83 well mma fighters dont use swords, guns, crazy razor teeth, magic fire and lightning abilities
@ellsworth004 That is why, to be consistent, none of the males should be shirtless or wear loin cloths. Plus for protection they all should be decked out in full armor fitting their character of course. Like riot gear or metal plate. Full helmets and shields are a must. Those people are dangerous! You know what they always say in Mortal Kombat, "Safety First!" This game is gonna be great, no one can get hurt because everyone has on their proper protective clothing. NetherRealm is so innovative! We don't want someone to get scraped knees! Wait? You can still rip off heads and slice up people's bodies? But you can't do that to the ladies, right? They have the proper PPEs! Huh, I guess logic like protective clothing doesn't matter... almost like... its... a game... But if that's true... then anyone could wear whatever because it doesn't matter, and we all know THAT would be silly. Better stick with full armor and ditch the fatalities! Better yet, they can sit and discuss their problems like adults. Mortal Diskourse!
Never understood why this was a problem in a game about ripping people's spinal cords out. To be fair though, I don't think the game ever really was about sex appeal. While many of the characters have a certain degree of attractiveness (ugly models aside), the main focus has always been the violence. I can't say I was ever particularly put off by a leotard or large breasts in a MK game but it never mattered, either. If I recall correctly this has been a gradual effort on NRS' part to tone down the sexuality in their games. The last game reduced breast sizes, this one is covering them up more.
Now, start pulling this crap with DoA games and we may have a problem. It's important to recognize what a game's main selling point is.
@Constable_What Did you see Equilibrium its awsome better then the matrix. 😁
@Flaming_Kaiser
That movie is so underrated. Especially when you take the Matrix as a trilogy, but I would agree that Equilibrium is even better than the first Matrix film. The camera work and the fight choreography was miles better, even if the story was a bit campy at times it was still less corny than the Matrix.
@Jriibz A lot of women, like my girlfriend, will tell you that a man's chest is sexual! Walk by the romance novels in a store and tell me what you see... oceans of bare chested man meat. Oiled up and glistening. Why are they like that? Because sex sells. Fabio wasn't popular for his intellect. When you talk about swimwear, what about nude or topless beaches? Haven't women fought to let the puppies out in protests at places like Venice beach? I'm not even calling for that... even though Mileena's Flesh Pit costume is pretty close! I would just want it to be equal. If they are saying "You wouldn't go into a fight wearing what the female characters in the past wore." The same goes for the men. We can not allow a protective gear gap! Safety first! Full 100% coverage is the only way to be safe.
@Jriibz Is a bikini on a woman obscene? If so isn't that sexiest? That's not my point at all though. NetherRealm said, “You’re not going to be showing so much skin. I think it’s just what the game is about: you’re going in to fight for your life, and you’re not going to be wearing such scantily clad items." My point is if they are "in to fight for your life" then why do men have shirtless and pantless options? It's going against what they said is their new position! Really, I don't care. I just think it's beyond silly to use that as an excuse. Cover up and armor up everyone or else its hypocritical. Also in history there was real warriors who fought nude. There wasn't many but it happened. Just saying!
@JoeBlogs Totally fine with it, those characters would reflect me and even if they didn't, they would serve as a motivation, or at least a power fantasy. Why the hell do you think there's thousands of hot cosplayers portraying MK characters? All my girl gamer friends absolutely love their characters to be aggressively sexy. Well, except one, but the rest of them do.
https://www.google.com/search?q=female+mma+fighter&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiux7C3mqvhAhWstYsKHedoBHgQ_AUIDigB&biw=1920&bih=981
drops the mic
@Constable_What Indeed it was a great movie i think that why i noticed him as a actor. The mechanic i need to watch that i heard its a classic.
@Jriibz Here you have to wear a shirt so the machines dont get sweat all over them. 😁
Look at it this way though: it’s not like you’re gonna change clothes first if you happen to be in a bikini and a life or death fight starts.
@Flaming_Kaiser
The Machinist is a great film! It's very unnerving and Bale does a fantastic job as the guilt riddled character Trevor Reznik.
He dropped so much weight for that movie as well. Apparently in order to drop the weight he went on a diet of a single apple, a single can of tuna, a cup of coffee, a cigarette, and all the water he could drink every day for four months or so.
He's a crazy person, but that's why he's great!
@Constable_What Ah ill go watch that for sure it was on Netflix but you know Netflix they remove so much. If you get the chance the Call with Halle Berry. 😁
Show Comments
Leave A Comment
Hold on there, you need to login to post a comment...