Sony closed its Paris Games Week 2017 press conference with a new trailer for The Last of Us: Part II. Since then, many onlookers have taken to social media and various gaming forums to express their disapproval of the clip. At the time of writing, the 'net seems torn on the trailer's unadulterated violence. Some think it's simply Naughty Dog effectively setting the tone for its upcoming game, while others take issue with the reveal itself -- a promotional video consisting of graphic violence that has no context until the title appears at the end. It's safe to say that there are a lot of angles to approach this from.
As such, we want to know what you lot think of it. Whether you believe it's perfectly fine or whether you think it's gratuitous, have your say in our polls, and then let your voice be heard in the comments section below.
What do you think of the new trailer for The Last of Us: Part II? (272 votes)
- It's perfectly fine, I don't understand why people are upset
- It's violent but I think that's the point of the trailer
- It wasn't my cup of tea but I don't think there was anything wrong with it
- I don't care either way
- I understand what Naughty Dog was going for but it was too violent
- Without context it came off as exploitative
- The trailer made me uncomfortable and I disliked it
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Did the new trailer make you want to play The Last of Us: Part II? (259 votes)
- Yes, I'm more interested than ever
- Yeah, I like the direction it seems to be going in
- Meh, the trailer didn't do much for me either way
- Nah, it's made me less interested
- No, the trailer has put me off the game completely
- I wasn't planning on playing it anyway
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I though it was a bad choice for a trailer. Not because I hate violence in video games or trailers, but because it was a waste of stage time for me. Publishers might call it a success, because it got everyone talking of course. But to me... it's a kind of scene I'd rather seen in the game and its context. It didn't hype me up for the game in any way.
I think the reveal could have been better. I don’t have a problem with the content but slapping it right at the end of the conference didn’t leave much room for hype or excitement.
I think people may have reacted better if they knew this was TLOU going into the trailer, instead of just being thrust into that brutal world unexpectedly.
Loved it . The world of The Last Of Us is cruel, dark , and unforgiving ... I wouldn't expect anything less from a post apocalyptic setting.
I personally like when films/videogames/books reminds us that violence is supposed to make us flinch and feel uncomfortable — violence is so pervasive and tailored to do the exact opposite these days that I find it refreshing when someone has the guts to show it as it is and make us stop and think about it for a second.
Having said that, I don't think it was a particularly good choice for a reveal: I would rather have a snipet of actual gameplay.
@ShogunRok after watching it number of times I think it's a survival story on the side of the main game you know such as call of duty zombies mode or mgs v survival that sort of thing.
Agree that it was an odd choice for a trailer. During the game you might expect to see brutality on this level maybe, but in a trailer it was unexpected and so I think that has put people off. Human torture is not typically graphically depicted in a trailer. I’m sure the game will still be a hit, but I’m not sure ND did anything with this to push it forward any. I could be wrong though.
Can we have a poll for Detroit?
That was the pits man, the overtly dangerous bully stereotype (which does exist tbf) killing his daughter. Thats the absolute worst of humanity, who wants to see that?
As for TLOU2 it was dodgy in parts, I also think in the current climate of predominantly women coming forward about instances of historical abuse the presentation could and should have been better handled.
Either way the trailers have fulfilled their roles ps4 is the home of mature gaming and back in the limelight at a time xb1x is almost upon us and switch has the best games.
A game for adults with an adult story. It will be 18 for sure. Are Saw movies too much. If they are for you don't watch. It's simple.
It suits the game...a tad shocking...but it's in the tone...the Wolfenstein trailer has heads exploding and dudes getting knifed in the neck and nobody reacts...great trailer director for Naughty Dog..
The violence felt a bit sexualized, though. I don't know how this will turn out in the main game, so I'll hold my judgments, but having two women be tortured and humiliated and then having a man save them. Hm...
More disturbed by the Detroit trailer than this, that was horrible to watch.
Loathe as I am to sit on the fence, I'm kind of mixed on the whole affair.
I thought the trailer wasn't particularly good. It was just a bunch of people we know nothing about getting hurt in fairly gruesome fashion. Like, a trailer for Saw 12 wouldn't go that far. It would be implied, sure, but movies do trailers without going full throttle. But then by the same token, video game trailers are different to movie trailers and always have been, and this one, like many others before, was about establishing tone. It did that. And on that front I guess it succeeded even if I didn't particularly care for it.
I'm not going to go all Polygon here and start lambasting them for making a violent trailer and somehow linking that to the patriarchy. I just didn't particularly care for it because I didn't know who anyone was so it had no impact on me. Violence without context is just violence. That's where I think the trailer failed most.
I was just hoping that Ellie would be one of the three as they were leading into the “where is the other?” But it’s still good world building. We know she’s older, so a lot has changed in that time span.
That said, cinematic trailers don’t really push me to buy anything. I want to see actual gameplay. God of War has totally sold me. Spider-Man has sold me, but it didn’t accomplish that until I saw gameplay.
I agree with @kidfried in that I would have preferred to have experienced this within the context of the game. For the convention, I would have preferred some gameplay, or at least a scene that didn't seem so pivotal. I did think, out of context, it was a little too much. However, I am excited for TLOU2 and the trailer did nothing to either pronounce of diminish that excitement.
If anything, it didn't go too far enough.
@Kidfried Sorry. I didn't feel that watching the trailer. Especially, as the antagonist was also a woman and the male that saved them was a child. In fact, the only grown men in the trailer were subordinate grunts.
@johncalmc Yet to check Polygons response. I have a sneaking suspicion you may be right.
It didn't really feel like it was attached to the game, but i think that was the point. It's obvious ND is building a world that contains more than shiv and bullet fodder for Joel and Ellie, so they're introducing new characters in the only way they know how; over the top cinematics.
@johncalmc "The violence is particularly upsetting as it features the assault of women. Violent attacks on women, many times for perfunctory purposes, isn’t new." Polygon
Im glad to see the ps community isnt jumping on the bandwagon. Personally i watched and thought "ooookaaay wheres the SHOCKING CONTROVERSIAL part"
Crazy that people are going ape poop about someone being hung and having a knife NEAR their stomach, as if thats an all time low for violence in media. While the trailer SHOULD be getting praise for its portrayal of a mega buff woman with a gender bending physique!
Some people just need to butt out and zip it lol
lasssSSSHHHH OUT!
Though i also agree id rather have seen a gameplay trailer.
Y'know, I think ND put that one out there to create this very controversy - it gets a lot more web presence and time than if it was just a regular, familiar LOU scene with different people, locations
@DLB3 Really don't understand your comment at all. The women were prisoners at the start of the video. We don't know anything other about them except that they were prisoners and gonna die anyway. Then the boy with the arrow came in. Without him they wouldn't be alive or at least tortured even further.
@Shellcore People can have wildly different experiences watching a trailer like this. That's because it is without context. There's a lot of blanks to fill in.
I'd love to have been given a bit more context. The trailer would have been better for it really and nobody would have been having this conversation.
.... yeah, definitely setting the tone... and yes it was violent, and I think that was the point - it differentiates itself from other games, by going for a more realistic approach.. there are so many zombie games out there (and coming) - that I think this really does set itself apart... it's an adult game for an adult audience... and for me (as not a particular fan of the first - I think the boring shooting got in the way of an amazing story) - it rekindles interest in something I may not have purchased...
The only thing that bugged me was that it's kinda spoilerish. Like I will remember that scene and now I know whoever that was survives.
Violence-wise it's no worse than The Walking Dead so seems par for the course for this genre
Ahh, Polygon - the gift that keeps on giving 😂
Let's be clear, it wasn't violence against women - it was violence against everything that breathes. Inventing a problem against a game that actually tries to create equal footings is rather odd.
Just because a character has boobs, that doesn't mean it's sexualised. If that's the first place a mind goes to then... hey ho good for you. I thought it was just a good display of what a PS4 can do, and what it bring out in you.
Dark if you people call that dark I don't know what to say.
After I watched the trailer for TLOU2 I honestly didn’t think “I wonder how this will fit into the game.” I thought about the world that Naughty dog has built and this could easily be something that’s going on outside of the scopes of the games. It wouldn’t surprise me if none of those characters are in the game and I wouldn’t mind it. It’s an extraordinary look into a fictional world that we have come to appreciate
I think it's worth having a trailer like this. As people want games to become more recognised and accepted and quote unquote mature, I feel that those people also want games to only be mature in a strictly professional, business sense - the kind you could show people you want to impress.
Movies like Taxi Driver and Funny Games made people uneasy when they were released, and the fact that games can now do that too is a good thing, even if you find the content distasteful. The good thing about art is that it can tackle things like that without affecting the real-world, and instead make you confront it from the sidelines.
@DLB3 Women should obviously wear burkas at all times because the mere sight of a womens abdomen is obviously over sexual.
The strongest person in this trailer was the WOMAN who had caught the other two women and was obviously in control of the two men. But its still patriotical because a young kid who happens to be male rescued them. They would have been better off dead than being rescued by a man! /s
Violence is real, this is realistic, dont be a snowflake. Play knack 2.
I'm just watching it from an artistic perspective: they choosed the easy path: explicit violence, as in any bad movie.
Talented directors prefer to impress the audience mixing more complex techniques (close-ups, unusual camera angles, sound effects, music, editing...) as showed by Hitchcock in Psycho, by Lang in M and by Spielberg in Jaws.
Gender wars here is nothing more than online chatter.
@themcnoisy I do because much like what Schindler's List did for movies it shows the absolute best and worst of humanity, it's something games should aspire to be if it wants to be taken seriously as a medium. People are free to be put off from playing it but the developers shouldn't have to be discredited because it dared to deal with a subject matter people will find uncomfortable.
@fchinaski I was shocked but in the Last of Us there where a lot brutal scenes. But If we want light and fun there is always Uncharted. I think that is the setting.
@ZurapiiYohane I agree on that point but maybe that is for the December event?
I don't think the violence was that extreme for a game like this. However, I think it was a dumb choice for a game that's supposed to be centered around story and characters.
But above all, the worst thing to come out of this trailer is the feminists crawling out of their lairs and declaring the trailer a glorification of abuse against women. That's completely rediculous.
@Kidfried You mean a young boy who saved them? And the woman was more then capable to fend for herself.
Anyone shocked by the violence in the new footage/trailer obviously haven't played the first "the last of us" game or seen the entire play-through on YouTube. There are many many many violent video games out there, we have established that video games are not just for children anymore, they have more real world narratives and scenarios just like movies do. There is a difference between glorifying violence and simply understanding why a particular scene in a game or film is violent for the sake of moving and developing the story that's trying to be told.
Our society is already so violent, now imagine how much more violent it would be if society was to fall apart and we had to fight over food and clothes ect... I mean just watch black friday videos online and see how people treat each other over electronics, they would then kill for food.
Just watched it to see what the fuss is about, went for the context option as, even with playing the first game, I don't really know what is going on here or who anyone is. The violence doesn't bother me, but without context it just reminded me of the late 90s and early 2000s when some games were basically advertised through how violent they were and gave video games a bad name outside of the community.
Second question has to be the 'meh' option since you shouldn't really be swayed by a trailer that doesn't even show gameplay footage. As usual I'll wait for the reviews
Is the trailer too much? Absolutely not. People are just pansies these days. It's an adult-rated game, with adult content. My only problem with Naughty Dog's trailers, and this goes for any game they make, is they show so many of them that by the time the game comes out most things have been spoiled by pre-release hype. But this trailer does serve its purpose, which is to get people talking.
Needlessly, horrifically violent. If a scene like that was in the game, but grounded in a proper narrative context, I probably wouldn't mind, but advertising a game with that sort of content just feels exploitative and gross.
Less about content, more about context.
violence is not the problem for me because i pay respect to creators idea about the world. Video game is a kind of art and creator is free to create something that he or she wants and no one can`t tell them why did you do that?! it`s easy to understand that creator making art because he or she wants to tell others how subjects change things! so if ND use violence in game because they have a reason for it and even if they don`t it`s not a good thing to question them why?! art is the mirror of creator mind.
any way if you want to say i don`t like violence you can make art ( like movie or video game even a paint! ) and tell your idea there. look at R* They always review people by video games so you can do it too.
about trailer was good or not i say MEH . nothing special but that was good but not that much. i really shocked when i saw graphic!
i hope they finally show gameplay because i don`t want see more spoil thing after this trailer
@Gamer83 i agree sony studios always making spoil trailers. i mean just look at E3 and last night . we saw 3 story trailer about GOW !!! remember uncharted4 !! i saw every part of game in trailers. i`m sorry but it`s happening to Detroit too!
but i don`t think they make spoil trailers for TLOU . imean i hope so!
I don't believe so. I suppose the threat of something grisly happening is the point and was on the table, but nothing of the sort actually happened, barring the girl getting her arm broken with a claw hammer, and said hammer's use as a weapon against the captor. The way the trailer was described to me, I was expecting the woman to get her stomach cut open, but that doesn't happen. The same woman gets set up to be hung, but it doesn't actually happen, although it looked as if it could.
Maybe if all I just said happened, maybe it would be controversial, but the trailer as is just doesn't strike that reaction to me. Dark, yes. Grim, yes. Hard to watch, depends on how squeamish you are. Too much? Nope. I think we've seen worse than this before.
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@pbernoos
Yeah, Uncharted 4 was crazy, definitely felt like all the trailers spoiled a good portion of the game. To be fair, it is tough for AAA studios these days given how much money goes into development, so they have to generate hype to get great sales and at least break even on a project.
@Gmork___ I think for me the hangings and the knife to the belly were not as disturbing as the pinning a helpless person down by a group, hovering over the person and then torturing them by smashing their arm bones to bits with a hammer. Even the hammer to the temple doesn’t bother me after watching lots of TWD, but restraining a person on the ground and torturing them while they are alive, awake, and aware disturbs me more than gore. And “disturbing” is not necessarily a bad thing for the game - like has been said by others, I suppose that disturbed uncomfortable reaction was what ND was going for. And I’m okay with being uncomfortable with my media from time to time, I just didn’t expect the first major trailer (outside of that scene of Ellie playing the guitar by a corpse) to be a gang torture session. Thankfully the boy came to save the day. At least she’s got her right arm still.
As soon as a gameplay video drops with Joel or Ellie in it, many people will whoop and holler and all this needless hoopla will be forgotten.
To be honest, I'm getting tired of graphic violence being increasingly used as a storytelling tool in media generally. It's the same reason why I never liked Tarantino movies and couldn't get into Game of Thrones. After awhile I really just don't get the point.
Killin ain't no thing but a chicken wing.
The trailer didn't feel anymore gruesome or disturbing than some of the scenes in the Walking Dead. Don't really have an issue with it.
@IceClimbers That trailer is tame compared to The Walking Dead. If it was done with TWD levels of violence, she would have had her stomach sliced right open with her guts spilling everywhere in a steaming pile, and the other girl would have had her face smashed in with the hammer rather than her arm, lol.
@Kidfried sexualised? You need to see a doctor, you are clearly seeing things that are not there.
Context? It's the apocalypse, people are horrid to each other in the apocalypse. See also the walking dead, and a million other movies. Feel free to call it unoriginal if anything.
Yes two women were being subject to torture and death, but you fail to mention the dead men already lynched?
Finally the only people who died in the trailer were two men and the woman seemingly in charge.
Where you saw it as an attack on women, I saw it as a compelling trailer with tension, violence, and a sense of relief that the (hopefully) good guys won out.
I saw characters, potentially interesting characters... Not genders....but that's just me.
Loved it. And frankly if you're upset or offended by violence in a trailer for an 18-rated game, you probably need to find a new hobby.
The Polygon article on this is absolutely laughable.
Timing seemed right with Halloween on our doorstep. However personally if it's as gruesome as Resident evil or until dawn etc I won't be able to cope! And will sadly skip it.
@JonnyMack I don't need to see a doctor, thank you.
If the whole point of the trailer was to show me that during the apocalypse people are aggressive, well... could be, but then it is a bit of a weak trailer. They could have used this trailer to introduce a character or anything. I'm not terribly interested in a movie without gameplay, that shows me nothing of the game beside that. This will work to much greater in the game I presume, which is why it's such a missed opportunity.
I myself didn't see characters. I just saw people tortured, just responding to their instinct of survival. Just men and women. Maybe there's an interesting story behind all this or maybe it's like you said... cruelty because of the apocalypse. But that in itself is not really "highbrow" storytelling.
So, I'm disappointed in the trailer. You were not, 'sfine.
@DLB3 Without the boy (however young he may be), the women would still be captured/dead. That's why I would call it damsel in distress. But I guess we won't agree until we can see it in the context of the full game.
@Kidfried So women can never be in a state of peril? They always have to be in a position of power for it to be a good story?
Plz dont let this change your mindset Sony. If these ppl want PG type games they can go buy a Switch...bye
@KirbyTheVampire That's not at all my point. I was merely rating the trailer here, which I think is one of Naughty Dog's weakest. I don't know how these characters fit into The Last of Us story, but I'm not doubting this will all make sense as part of the overarching narrative.
@DLB3 I can be reasonable, once every day!
@Kidfried I agree with that part of your argument, but when you say the mere fact that it showed women in danger makes it a damsel in distress story, I can't help but get that impression.
day uno for me senior.I seen a lot of violent movies before .so I don't have any problems with it.but I ain't gonna lie.I been playing video games since Atari.this was the most violent and disturbing video games trailer ever.but I love it.happy Halloween 👽.word up son
He should have hit her with flowers. We create controversy out of nothing. It was a simple trailer to hype the game. We need to grow up. Like Sammy said they should have put the adult only thing before it to warn about the content.
Other than that....
Well done!!
No.
Babies...
The only thing on the trailer that was too much was the minutes it took.
Didn't have problem with the violence, I see worse violence on rick and morty show
The trailer wasn't good at all, poor directed, misguided, filed with characters that we don't care (maybe yet). Could be about anything.
That said, the violence isn't the problem, it's...I don't know same as every violent game.
Nice one @hadlee73
I thought the trailer was great. World building for the game, makes sense to me.
I suppose REALISTIC violence is more discomforting than movie violence, but that's a good thing, right? Violence is a facet of humanity that we can't ignore. Exploring it is not glorifying it.
People nowdays are extremely sensitive to everything.
The trailer was perfectly fine because the game is about violence in a world without any rules.
This kind of thing and worse happens in our world and we don't have a infestation of a zombie parasite, so, i don't even see a reason to discuss this.
can not wait for the game to come out the trailer was brilliant.
Games always get a bad rap for portraying this kind of stuff...except I guess the first TLOU? The game with cannibals led by a pedo cannibal in it? That's just off the top of my head. What changed between then and now to make this trailer "controversial"?
The Walking Dead does this stuff and doesn't even bat an eye. Naughty Dog shouldn't either.
Honestly, without any context, that could have been any game. Nothing about it told me I was watching a trailer for TLOU except the title card. Other trailers that were revealed got me more excited. Detroit was a similarly toned trailer but I liked it more.
With the 2 trailers that have been controversial, I’m not sure violence is the word we should be using.
Wolfenstein might show a Nazi being eviscerated and no one bats an eyelid, have an angry father being attack his child or two women being beaten by men, and it shows the things we hate most about humanity, we get no good feelings from seeing this much like watching many dramas.
We feel sad, maybe angry, the fact we feel anything is a triumph, we can only hope the final games are as impactful.
Naaaaah, s'aright.
I really enjoy violence in video games. A lot of games are too tame and they hold back. But having said that I would not have been happy if my son was watching it. I did not notice a warning before they showed the clip.
The first TLoU was probably the only game so far, which I played again right after I saw the end credits of my first playthrough. It was definitely a strong game, with strong characters, living in a pretty believable world, where tough choices are made to survive.
I was revealing the story of Joel and Ellie and I didn't want to finished it, but all things in life must come to an end, it is inevitable.
Having said that I liked the trailer, I'm not a kid anymore to be offended my graphic images in games in particular, it was showing to me that people are as savage as any other predator in nature, and this fits in the whole narrative of the world created in the first game.
I wonder if it was two men rescued by a woman, how does the other SJW's will react, probably it will be again "controversial" I guess, but I'm quite alright with that trailer, although it looked to me more like a small part of the cinematic story, rather than a trailer for the game.
It is an adult game for adult players and the violence is there, but I agree that a warning sign would have been adequate before the beginning.
The violence didn't bother me at all. I've seen worse in The Walking Dead, and that not even rated 18+.
It's more the characters and setting I'm a bit worried about. It didn't feel like The Last of Us. The first teaser trailer did, but this could've been any (new) IP. Yes, the clickers at the end were a shock, I think that's the thing they were going for, but I wouldn't have been my choice for a first proper trailer. I think they should at least have showed either Ellie or Joel.
The only problem for me is where were Joel and Ellie. Its just not The Last of Us for me without them. Compared to the effect the first trailer had this just left me feeling nothing
Sorry all for the multi posts, fixed
@Jui_Kuen I did the same, only ever done that with Journey and TLoU
I think the trailer did an amazing job of setting the scene for the game. It was violence. I definitely want to play the game.
@themcnoisy Well i loved that trailer it made me relate with Kara and where is the context wel that was the whole trailer. It was terrible to see but it does feel misplaced in the slightest for me.
@BarFooToo That was my biggest disappointment to where are Joel and Ellie.
It's a great trailer, not sure how the "haha, Nintendo only makes kiddie games!" crowd is calling out too much violence here and then too much cursing in the Beyond Good & Evil 2 trailer.
Make up your minds lol. Are you mature gamers or just kids shifting goal posts while wanting the grimdark?
Reminds me of the people who saw Mad Max and Blade Runner, but don't understand what a dystopia is.
Nah, not that interested. TLOU was one of the biggest disappointments of recent years to me. Will play this down the line but far from day one purchase.
Top tip. If a game is too violent for your liking, buy another game instead. Anyway despite it being my most anticipated game, I didn't think the trailer was that amazing. Not because of the violence, but it generally felt a bit pointless because it didn't really seem to tell us much or seem familiar to the previous game at all. And it wasn't really a trailer, it was just a cutscene.
@ThroughTheIris56 Hi sherlock - when you advertise to a 'general audience' you cannot promote mature content...
Now this is the story all about how in the new world we can subject our youth to unlimited amounts of porn, violence, sexual misconduct, greed, theft and everything else.... because family morals doesn't mean anything more... its about dems and republicans... snow flakes and alt-rights--- forget about respecting each other ( which is exactly what sony did not do - respect their customer base enough to warn them about mature content) and lets force everyone to be subjected to death, torture, hate ....
I love video games and really believe this is the golden age of playing them --- we need to take a stand and protect our youth against this stuff - if video games want to explore MATURE issues - simply give us a MATURE warning - so simple.... if they cannot even do that then we need to take a stand and tell them they must...
corporations only respect one thing - the voice and dollar of the masses - if you feel they have gone to far (ie. micro-transactions, violence without a warning- then you better speak up)
But I thought now forget it, yo home to Bel-Air
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Yawn, the trailer did nothing to interest me in the "game." This is going to be a game correct?
I honestly had no problem with the trailer and I don't see why it's getting so much attention for it's violence from the gaming media. I've seen worse or just as bad in terms of violence in other gaming trailers (Any other horror themed game comes to mind.). I think it's only a thing because of Polygons moronic article.
Also I've been seeing some comments about it being showed where it was. There was a age restriction. You had to over 18 to even watch the conference live.
@OldGamer81 Paris Games Week is something for the most part only somewhat "hardcore" Playstation gamers will be watching anyway, so that isn't to a general audience. The youtube video will most likely be locked to under 18's, so everyone who can view should be mature enough to at least tolerate it.
And I have no idea why you are bringing up politics and family values. Exposing people to bad values isn't going to infect those people, especially if the game's atmosphere and setting are effectively screaming "these are bad actions, do not replicate them in real life".
If some is extremely upset by the trailer that is a good thing, because they will probably be able to decide not to buy a £50 that is full of this stuff. The trailer acts as a very good warning.
If we want to protect youth from this, maybe we should get parents to actually look at the age ratings, instead of taking away a man's steak because a baby can't chew it.
@Kidfried
Are you a feminist or extremely political correct? It's a bit off the chart to say "The violence felt a bit sexualized". Every individual to their own, but there was nothing sexual about that trailer and I'm pretty sure 99% of people would agree with me.
This is what's wrong with the world; nobody can say or do anything, because it might offend someone else who will be outraged.
@Mart1ndo_ Come on, now. Let's keep it civil and stick to the facts. You complain that no one can speak freely anymore without an outrage. Yet, I just spoke my mind. Nowhere did I expressed being offended and nowhere did I outrage.
Just accept that different opinions exist and counter them with arguments instead of these fallacies. Most users on the site did, though. Their arguments actually made me rethink my own opinion.
@Kidfried
Sorry I wasn't referring to you when I mentioned outrage. I think I threw everything at you. ☺️
I should have stuck to your point. I'm not complaining just talking.
@Mart1ndo_ Ah, sorry for misunderstanding then!
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