Xbox Boss Takes More Shots at PS5 Exclusives Saying Fans Won't Be 'Forced' into Next-Gen

not having next gen exclusives at the start is also counter to what next gen consoles sell for. unless you want to sell them years after release creating yet another gap behind sony.

having the most powerfull console will only get you so far. what's the point if that power won't be fully used untill a couple of years after the console released. meanwhile at the start of the next gen ps5 exclusives will look and perform better than xbox exclusives,because they won't be limited by old gen hardware giving the impression that the ps5 is more powerfull to the average gamer. not something you want to do if your entire campaign is about having the most powerfull console with the most TF is it phil?

Philled Sphincter farts out more old noxious gas from his marketing hole.

The MS sales team's fluffer is at it again.

Xbox is green and so is envious Phil Spencer.

Microsofts strategy around the xbox division seems to fluctuate yearly. Why anyone should take anything they say seriously at this stage is beyond me!

It's bad because it makes them look bad with their plan to service four different SKUs. Ps5s focused vision will benefit Sony in the long run and he knows it. Just damage controlling

@get2sammyb the whole xbox situation is just weird and contradicting itself.

the marketing of the series x almost tells a different story than what you read in phil's interviews. having the most powerfull console only to be limited by curren gen? why even bother marketing the series x that way if you are going to compromise that vision for gamepass. it's a dissapointment waiting to happen. not only will the visual difference between series x and ps5 be less of an impact that MS want you to believe,but hampering the difference even more by limiting your exclusives is just giving sony the upper hand in the next gen exclusive game yet again,which is why MS was so lacking sales wise this gen to begin with.

Full of $#17. Of course, you can play tetris on any device since the 80s, but it's just tetris (and god, I do love tetris). And... Can you play Xbox One games on 360? Oh, You can't! Dear, you have been locked out! What a shameful practice...

wtf is Phil Spencer talking about?? Does he think Apple cares when they bring out a new iphone every September and that iphone only has features exclusive to that flagship device and not any previous generation of iphone? Every company that launches brand new hardware only have features/options designed exclusively for it so Sony is no different

For someone who doesn't consider Playstation to be competition, Phil spends alot of time talking about Playstation.

And lets be honest, the only reason he is saying this is because microsoft won't have software available that can leverage the power of Series X at launch. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the first party stuff will have been developed with Xbox One in mind, and is being ported to series X to give people a reason to pick up the machine.

If Phil really believed this he wouldn't have dropped cash to keep Rise of the Tomb Raider a timed exclusive for 12 months (yes, Sony do this too). He would have released titles like Ori and Cuphead on all systems rather than just the Switch.

I'm afraid i just don't buy it. This is all about maximising sign ups to gamepass

I’m fed up with Phil’s backhanded compliments...

He chats some rubbish😂

At the beginning of the year he came out and said he didn’t see Sony as a competitor just Google and Apple, basically smugging off Sony. Then he slated the PlayStation reveal and feels even more confidence in their game reveal and sees Xbox is a much better place.. 😂

What's the point of a next gen console if there's going to be no next gen exclusives? Where's the incentive to buy it?

Well with the crap job Xbox did in the past generation, Xbox one still needs a year of 2 of Microsoft studios games to be called a proper gen ! Maybe that’s their angle

Than release Rare Replay on either PC or Switch and Gears 2-3 on PC you coward! So I can finally sell my Xbox One since it's just sitting on my TV stand collecting dust.

He just sounds like a complete hypocrite.

Well, said it before, will say again - there are two kinds of exclusives.

One is the kind of game that's exclusive by definition, as you - as in, "you who make hardware" - own the IP. You know, Ratchet & Clank, God of War, and the like. That's perfectly fine - I want a Mario game on PlayStation as much as you'd want Kratos to score combos with button prompts that show... shiver in fear... letters.

The other kind is the one you get when you bribe publishers.

There's also next-gen exclusivity at work here, but I just wanted to point it out.

Translation: We got none! And this coming gen will be a repeat of the last because of it.

Phil tries to put a spin on anything Xbox doesn't have or can't do to make it seem like he's doing it for the gamers when in reality he knows it's because Xbox is a dying platform that can't compete with PlayStation.

The only reason Nintendo have survived this long is off of the back of it's exclusives. Not power as you think it's all about Phil. Let that sink in.

The Xbox fan boys think he's going to 'drop bombs' on the 23rd, I'd say given the damage control over the last week he knows he's about to over promise and under deliver as usual.

When and if the day comes that PlayStation no longer have exclusive games I'll move primarily back to Nintendo and build a new PC. Phil, exclusives sell consoles, it makes them stand out from the rest, it's that simple. Without them your platform continues to be DOA and I sure as hell have no reason to return to Xbox.

@get2sammyb couldn’t agree more.

If he believes PS are “counter to what gaming is about" then surely he should release game pass on PlayStation?!

I’m so fed up with this guy who Xbox fans think is the second coming...

Phil, this game doesn't run on the Xbox 360, explain.
It's just because MS doesn't have any studios ready for next gen game. His story will change in time make him, again, look very stupid.
If he believes in what he is saying why not stop making consoles and just games, it's a viable business model.

I think Phil is a good guy although he changes the narrative more than a soap opera. If I buy a console for 500 pounds I want new games that give me new experiences things like instant world loading in Ratchet, Ray tracing in Demon souls, flying in HZD2, faster web swinging in Spiderman etc. Also I think if Xbox hadn't had a nightmare this gen in terms of exclusives he wouldn't be talking this rubbish. This makes Phil sound like he is damage controlling there future exclusives.

Am planning on buying both PS5 AND Xbox Series X tho i prefer the PlayStation it doesn't matter what is more powerful or has faster SDD they wil both do great but Sony has always had best exclusives and is for the players trust me iv been gaming since I was like 7 on the sega megadrive,super Nintendo and PsOne , N64 so on

@swagbag713
'unsure whether my current games will be compatible with the next system'
They have been very clear since the first Wired interview more than a year ago. Ps5 has ps4 BC

I like Phil and what he's done for the brand. This is an absolutely terrible take though.

So does that mean Halo Infinite is coming to Switch and PS4/5 then? Because if not then he's a hypocrite. MS in past Gens gave up with Xbox when the 360 launched and gave up with 360 when X1 launched, this is the first time they aren't doing that what hey is good for X1 owners but when people buy a next gen console they kinda expect you know next gen games and not games they can get on the last machine.

Honestly they haven't got anything big right now being made and are trying to spin it, everything they have in the pipeline is an X1 game with the Series X version just being a prettier port. Sony have come out with Spider-Man, Horizon 2, Ratchet and Clank and Demon Souls and i expect MS are like damn we having nothing on that scale for the Series X so lets spin it to make Sony look bad. If this Gen is anything to go by then MS will yet again be behind on games, you know Gamepass is brilliant but during lockdown it was the Switch and Animal Crossing what was selling out not the X1.

@swagbag713 4k games from PS4 compatible with PS5 top 100 get upgrades what is confusing.

I absolutely understand the intent but it’s just a fact of life that new software will require new hardware. All technology has a lifespan.

'to force someone to buy my specific device on the day that I want them to go buy it,'
I just realised he really sounds like one of those console warriors and their BS.

Also with the rumour of Xbox discontinuing the Xbox one S & X and not having any major game exclusives at launch for the Xbox series x. Is Phil Spencer and Microsoft just banking on game pass and having ( the worlds most powerful slogan) to sell next gen?😂

@WallyWest Good point! FF7 Remake Animal Crossing NH and TLoU2 Sold like crazy but I read nothing of Xbox One sales going up or of GamePass Subs spiking during that time. People spend money on Exclusives not on some Philosophy fueled by Damage Control.

@JJ2 it is realy bad when the boss of a company links the logical conection to making new harware and making sure it sells by making software made just for that device is "forcing people to buy that product". it's as if he wants to series x to be a flop with some the stuff he says.

Spoken like a man already admitting defeat. Sony especially has a right to make games for their own system. Developers have a right to do business how they want. Maybe they dont want the constraints associated with multi platform / multi generational development. Its their money, and they should do what they think will provide the best product and/or best roi.

Think Phil needs to go back in time and check out MS when Xbox 360 was around and how MS got lot of games exclusive to that system. Now they are saying open up the games exclusives 1st party sell consoles so keep that to your own system but 3rd party should be open to all I don't and have never believed in 3rd party like Destiny, and COD etc locking out players from content for a year etc.

You pay the same price for the game and content you should get the same content when it comes to 3rd party games.

Also can anyone explain to me how GamePass is viable for MS when they give away a 1st Party game at launch for $10 a month? Honest question. @get2sammyb

"Locking games to a particular piece of hardware, according to boss Phil Spencer, is “completely counter to what gaming is about”."

Righto! Looking forward to playing Scorn and The Medium on my PS5 then!

Give me Hellblade 2 then you dont want too shut people out dont you.

@3Above Maybe you answered your own question he hopes too lose those and just strong arm the 3rd parties onto the game pass.

As usual he's talking out of his hole.

Exclusivity is always evil and anti-consumer.... Its the same how I don’t want 10 different streaming services because shows are locked behind exclusivity nonsense. Only difference here is that the product design may have to be changed at significant cost or loss of user experience in order to accommodate the lowest common denominator of hardware.

Way to 'cherry-pick'; he didn't say anything of the sort -

What he ACTUALLY said was regarding the approach to making games for current generation as well as for the new one, rather than doing what Sony is doing and making people buy a PS5 if they want to play first party games anymore.

I wonder how much talk about 'damage control' will be going on when Sony are asking $600 to play the next Sony exclusive and somebody defends it?

Personally dealing with one platform and giving it the best its got with no restraints i think is good but to many people probably not.

@Flaming_Kaiser i read a couple of days ago that cyberpunk will not release on gamepass. considering that cyberpunk has some PR deals with MS that is rather interesting. it only takes 1 respected developer to say no to start an influx of other devs to do the same. (sony with e3 for example). it's sad that 1 of your marketing partners with a hugly anticipated game does not see any reasons to launch on your "pro consumer" service compared to traditional release. but as sony shows with their exclusives sale numbers,if you make good games you don't need to rely on a subscribtion service to sell them. perhaps CDPR feels the same.

the only reason phil is saying this is because microsoft has a vested interest in pc's... and pc gaming. otherwise, he wouldn't denounce the idea of purchasing a new console even though that model has worked well for 30 years! also, nobody is forcing a developer to jump on the ps5 train straight away... there will be numerous ps4 games released over the next few years from 3rd parties. that said, if you want to stagnate progress in the gaming space, then by all means support 8 year old hardware and limit the scope of your games. something tells me that is not what the mainstream market wants. we are ready for a change. and for those who aren't, by all means play on xbox. phil should instead say something along the lines of: "we are offering a different choice for gamers" rather than insinuate that his company knows best and sony is doing it all wrong. it takes balls to say that when your competition absolutely trounced you this console generation

@AlexSora89 How is funding a game bribing? Or do you mean timed exclusives?

@Mega-Gazz I without this a lot of my favorites would have never existed.

So that means xbox series x will not have game exclusively designed for it forever? It has to share with xbox one 2013? Why bought expensive console when all you're getting is last gen game with updated resolutions and framerate 😕

I'm glad I'm buying ps5 which will have true exclusive like ratchet & clank ra and horizon fw 😃

@wiiware i think they won't have any next gen exclusives for the first 2 years of next gen. also known as the most important period of the generation since that is the time you have to show and make an impact with your new console.

Looking forward to GamePass & Xcloud on PS5

Microsoft could not even beat sony with the ps3.they add more studios.and have a more powerful system but PlayStation still gonna dominate x box again.word up son

So basically they are marketing their machine as an Xbox One X “Pro”? It has the same games but can run them a bit better? Their marketing is confusing

All these games will come to your current console and to PC, please buy this console?
I really don’t see it flying off the shelves...

@TwinStripeUK

What the heck are you talking about? Exclusive games are the only reason to buy a console because you cannot play it anywhere else.

Do you really think gaming studios are developing games solely to entertain us? Gaming is an industry not a charity. If games are worth next to nothing - no one will create it.

Has he forgotten all about those "Exclusive to Series. X" games his own company showed a couple of months ago? Going by this interview they will be releasing them on all platforms then?

What a very Don Mattrick thing to say.

I honestly do believe there's a balance to be had in all of this. For example, if a game will simply not work with older hardware, then they should not have to worry about the older hardware holding them back. But if the game would work by just scaling back some parts graphically, I see no real reason a company should limit itself to only the newest hardware at launch. That's not to say we should be releasing TLOU2 on PS3 this late in the game or some obvious extreme like that, but many of the games coming out will not take full advantage of the new hardware for a while. In that time, if they wouldn't play or look too much different on PS4, then it makes sense to support both.

Obviously this guy is just running some marketing talk to support their own business model - it's not "counter to what gaming is all about", it's simply a marketing decision.

@3Above I've said this elsewhere but during lockdown Gamepass would have been the most perfect thing yet people cared more about buying the Switch and Animal Crossing. It tells me that Xbox is no longer relevant with both hardcore gamers like us and the casual crowd who only care for the odd game or two.

Sony exclusives 9/10 make No 1 when they release and do insanely well, Days Gone last year a game what critics weren't fussed with still done well what shows the power of PS. Ghost of Tsushima is out this week and i expect its another hit for Sony after last months giant hit in TLoUP2, MS could have had this as well but as it is they clearly don't care about 1st party games on the scale Sony does and seem more interested in services.

@gmxs as i understand it,the first 2 years of next gen,the series x will not have exclusives,so the games they have shown are most likely years away from releasing. and since they spend the entire generation just buying studios instead of making games,it means they have nothing next gen worthy to release in the first 2 years since they just sarted developing them hence why phil says this crap.

It's like saying the McRib is available in KFC because that is what the "consumers want"
Phil Spencer clearly does not know what he is doing he has been in the helm for 7 years and just accepted mediocrity the XBONE failure is not Mattrick's fault it's HIS fault for failing to turn the ship around remember when Sony turned the ship around after the disasterous PS3 reveal ( more disasterous that the XBONE reveal )

I love Phil’s open and inclusive mentality. I think it brought Xbox back from the brink, but his lack of exclusives has been a reason for why Xbox didn’t catch back with PlayStation.

I know multiple people and have seen thousands of comments at this point that state that if there “exclusives” will be in PC, then there is no reason to but the Xbox hardware. Which they clearly don’t care about because they just want you to be apart of the ecosystem at this point.

Even then, I hope that MS’s new upcoming exclusives are a success and drive players to at least use the Xbox software. I don’t see how the executives will continue the brand it doesn’t pick up this new generation.

I can't see why people praise this guy for :-/ A total FAKE just like everyone at Microsoft. This all sounds like he is scared because he has nothing to show(AGAIN) this month when Microsoft have their Xbox show.

@jdv95 I think the reason is their new studio don't have new games yet, so to spin this as positive press (and negative one for sony) microsoft says exclusives is bad or something like that.

I mean they do sure love exclusive last gen when they have big exclusive games like halo or gears.

Pretty dumb line of thinking imo. But xbox is worried about sub numbers so i guess it works for them. I want my new console to play something my old console cant...Call me crazy lol

I don't even think the exclusive reveal will even be that good probably just gamepass filler ( that could be easily played on my phone) with Halo:Infinite attached to it I'm not even impressed with their acquisition they just bought small studios or has been / past it studios ( Obsidian and Ninja Theory ) those studios could not even tie Sucker Punch's shoes nevermind Naughty Dog or Insomniac

And if they show Fable I think this the reason why PS are warming up to Bethesda ( while ditching Ubisoft ) probably for Elder Scrolls with exclusive content just like in CoD

@AdamNovice
Exactly my thoughts. Back up the talk... Don't believe in exclusives? Announce a PlayStation version of Halo Infinite.

This is a rare time I agree with Jim Ryan's approach to gaming. Exclusives are what sells systems, always have been. And, yes, when I move onto a new generation I want games that won't be limited by weaker hardware from the previous gen.

@Feena They don’t make money off of hardware. Their strategy is to have a larger install base from the start, so that developers are more likely to make stuff for their systems. Right now the install base is heavily weighted towards PS4 over xbone, and with this strategy on day 1 their install base will be much larger than ps5.

@Cloud7794
The third party games that are being released cross-gen this year are specifically made for the current gen and are only getting free next gen upgrade but for games such as Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart that was made from the ground up for the PS5 - Developers will need to remove key features from the game for it to work on the PS4 and there would be a huge disparity on the games performance and not just the graphics.

@swagbag713 except it hasn’t been unclear at all: they’ve already announced the vast majority of PS4 games will work on the ps5.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/03/guide_ps5_backwards_compatibility_-_can_you_play_ps4_games_on_playstation_5_which_playstation_4_games_work_on_ps5_and_does_ps5_play_ps1_ps2_or_ps3_games

Around every corner they are taking shots at Sony meanwhile Sony is sitting there quietly

@johncalmc like with any fandom's fanboys reaction in a situation like MS,they just say that phil is right and the PS will be proven wrong next gen with their "anti consumer approach"

they are just being blind for the sake of it at this point.

Then what is the point of multiple consoles existing...?

@swagbag713 I’ve linked you to hard proof that the overwhelming majority of PS4 games are going to be compatible, so nothing to fear.

@swagbag713 maybe because you’re not making your point clear.

“ but again, we don't know when they will be exclusive or hwat games will be. My point keeps being cast aside to form a narrative that I'm saying that ps4 won't be compatible. these arguments are exhuasting”

What are you trying to say with this exactly?

If you’re trying to get a list of games that won’t be compatible then you’re ***** out of luck from both Sony and Microsoft (yes, there may also be some last gen games not compatible on the Series X as well, it happens even on pc). Only time and trial and error will get you that list.

@swagbag713 re read my reply with the edit.

@swagbag713 as far as when they’ll be compatible it’s either they are or aren’t. It’s not like the Xbox one and the 360 where they had to add games for them to be compatible they either will work or won’t (or will work with bugs).

From my standpoint you’re being purposefully obtuse.

Wow, so many experts on hardware and software on this comment section. So insightful.
But for real, looking at specs, you'd be crazy to think current-gen hardware (specially the mid-gen upgrade) wouldn't be able to have a paired back version of the games we've seen so far.

"“people who are too caught up in device competition” believe Xbox Series X’s software will be held back by its commitment to the Xbox One."

He is taking advantage of some people being ignorant, the Dead Rising 3 devs talked about what they wanted in DR3 but couldn't do because of the CPU in XboxOne. Same as Horizon Zero Dawn devs wanted flying in HZD but couldn't do I because of both the HDD & CPU in the PS4, both these things could of been added on a High End Pc easily but it would have never been able scale down to work on the consoles fact.

@swagbag713 I see, so the problem is you don’t actually read or go to the sources listed in the links provided to you. This was linked in the article I gave you by the way.

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/03/18/unveiling-new-details-of-playstation-5-hardware-technical-specs/

Edit: you’ll notice that’s from March, so the information has been around for a long time.

Edit 2: as for your we will only know if they’re available right away comment you’ll notice that they are saying they’re testing them, not adding them, meaning they either just work or not as I’ve already said.

Having no specific reason to buy a certain console is counter to what buying a certain console is all about.

Man, Spencer is in full damage control here, he knows they're releasing a premade PC under the guise of it being a console and is pretending that Microsoft of all people are the genuine friends of their customers. Given that each Xbox has been the worst or second worst selling console of each respective gen, I'm not sure their outlook is something anyone should put much stock in.

Hey Phil, Nintendo has been doing this for years and their games still sell regardless

Let Phil run his mouth, the numbers proof which is working and which isn't

I agree with Sony on this one and disagree with Spencers "gaming is about community" line. I dont give 2 hoots about playing online at all and i dont need any sort of "live" or "plus" membership. What i do need is fantastic single player experiences and there is only 1 console that offers me that.
[edit] 2 actually, and one isnt xbox.

That's why I won't buy into ms, they're to hung up on pc stuff. PS5 should be about PS5 games! It's an odd thing for him to say imo.

@swagbag713 no bud, you’re doing that yourself.

If they’re already testing them that means that they’re already working 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

They’re just figuring out which ones aren’t.

Meanwhile, at Sony....
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/06/on_ps5_exclusive_games_will_be_more_important_than_ever_before_says_sony

@swagbag713
Hi man. I hope you not feeling in any way jumped on. Just providing info.
'We have already tested hundreds of titles and are preparing to test thousands more as we move toward launch'
Seems pretty clear ?

@swagbag713 I’m sorry I got frustrated with you, it’s just this narrative is pushed all the time needlessly when the information is readily available.

Look at Sony’s history with backwards compatibility:

ps2: ps1 compatibility right away did not add it after the fact.

Ps3: ps2 and ps1 compatibility right away didn’t need to add it after (actually removed compatibility after to make the system cheaper)

When they’ve had it it was an automatic thing not at all like Microsoft which is seemingly what you’re basing your expectations on..

Or maybe its just an excuse to divert eyes from the fact that they still havent shown anything worth a damn? I mean, i own an Xbox One x and i quite enjoy it, but the lack of exclusives kinda negates the money i paid for it. Why should i but the next xbox if there's little to nothing when it comes to exclusives? Also, if he talks so much, why doesnt he get Turn 10 and Playgroud Gamea ro release forza games on playstation? He talks but he doesnt say anything.

Really, Phill?
Can't wait to play the new Halo and Hellblade 2 on the PS5 then

@Mega-Gazz I see your point but it still detrimental to the impact of the new console...this will carry their fans into the next gen but will not attract any PlayStation fan for a very long time.

Where was the outcry when killzone was released launch day ps4 only? I dunno be glad once it comes out and I am able to fully play a game in next gen style thats what I'm buying it for afterall.

@swagbag713 the problem is that you’re being given the information and then not accepting it seemingly.

Here’s what we know from the information given:

The overwhelming majority of PS4 games will be playable on the ps5 (with perhaps increased framerates/resolution), some however may not work as intended which is always a possibility with software running on hardware it wasn’t designed for.

This is not something that is added later; developers could update their titles to make them work at a later date if they wish but that’s something else entirely.

@Athrum So true. Ill be there to throw these statments at his face when those games dont release on PS5.

@swagbag713 then you’re taking a ridiculous position in my opinion.

What part of overwhelming majority of games will work concerns you?

Also, I edited in some additional pertinent info to the last comment (I have a tendency to think about things and add them after I press save lol).

@Kidfunkadelic83 The Switch?

Phil Spencer: Exclusives are bad, so watch me buy up all these multiplatform studios and have them make Xbox/PC exclusive games.

He seems salty.

Same old hypocritical horse-hockey from "Gamer Phil". He who claims to hate third party exclusives,yet quite happily tied up tomb raider & several more indies including their 3rd party XBSX reveal & even the other night Devolver Digital with Carrion,(every platform bar playstation?)...let alone the 3rd party studio spending spree with likes of Double Fine,Ninja Theory etc. Much like early ps4 for the likes of FFXIV when M$ didn't want a bar of crossplay...& yet the major gaming sites then gave him sainthood as its crusader!
Don't understand the love he gets in the press-I'd have more trust in Stan flogging his used boats from Monkey Island!

Microsoft's X Box's lack of big AAA games is counter to what gaming is About!

how this moron still has a job baffles me Don Matrick did better with 360 get ready for a massive let down coming is more what this means to me.

So put your games on PS5? (This would be a terrible idea, but is in line with what he said) He had keep getting deeper in that statement. I highly doubt he believes it.

@Richnj actually i was on aout the ps4 but as you are quite correct ive also edited the switch in to my post 👍

@swagbag713 4 thousand is alot of games the same will also apply to Xbox we dont know what games are compatible. License issues could cause a problem. People presume all 360 games are back compat but in reality it's less than half. So only time will tell I suppose. But I do agree Sony should have some kind of presentation showing PS4 games running on PS5 and wich ones will be enhanced and wich ones will be back compat. Maybe we get some answers in August.

@Robocod i for 1 absolutely cant stick the guy. Im defenately with you.

What a load of crap,
"people who are too caught up in device competition" coming from the "The most powerful console ever" brand is kind of ironic. Yes hardware isn't the be all end all of what gaming is about, I think that one of the best game this generation is Breath of the Wild and it runs on the Switch. But it's also great to be able to specifically not be bogged down by the limitation of last gen, especially when you're asking for ~500 bucks

Said the Boss of a company with lacklustre exclusives

Is Phil qualified to do the job he has? Cause that is some dumb nonsense coming from his mouth.

All this talk makes the prospect of the July livestream even more intriguing. Will there be exclusives or will it all be cross platform? I want Xbox to succeed but stuff like this just seems to be digging them into a hole, more often than not.

Come on xbox gamers/devs stop denying it... You're all closet ps fans really! Come on Phil own up and say you have more exclusives at home on the ps4 than Xbox. As a real gamer he must be fed up of saying why don't we have a Last of Us! An uncharted! A zelda! A Mario! A horizon zero dawn. Yes you have gears and halo but the fans need more, I loved both those brands but sadly xbox does need more. We love you Phil. We know you're passionate about games and it must be frustrating to see all these exclusives on PlayStation, and not on xbox. Step up your xbox studios - give us something that makes us go wow!

My momma always said if you can't dazzle them with brilliance then you baffle them with bull xxxx.

@Shepherd_Tallon you’ve hit the nail on the head on what Microsoft and Phil Spencer are good at... marketing and PR.

Money can't buy happiness-
This is true when you're broke but I know several people with money who have never uttered those words as they frolic on boats and visit fancy lake housed laughing all the way.

Now exclusives don't matter because Microsoft can't compete. MS doesn't want to put in the work. They want to take Sony's work and Nintendo's work and put it on their service. They want gaming to be like windows. I guarentee if MS was pulling in 10's and critical acclaim they would be singing a different tune. Im sure if the xbox one and all of its different iterations we're selling like the ps4, Phil Spencer would be signing a different tune. When you can't beat em , then throw shade. MS knows they can't compete. We know they can't compete. The entirety of the professional gaming community knows that can't compete.

Personally, I usually buy a new console for the new games/experiences that are generally not available on other/older systems. Otherwise I wouldn't bother. Simple as that really. 🤷‍♂️

Maybe it's not the best example, but I still remember Bungie citing the need to develop for PS3 and Xbox 360 as limiting some of what they wanted to do with the original Destiny and as having contributed to some of the problems with the game. I would be legit angry if a sequel I was looking forward to (ex: Horizon Forbidden West) was limited on PS5 because of PS4.

And for those that say "what about the people who can't afford a PS5 right away?", this is why you need to be pressuring Sony to completely revamp PS Now and change their approach to it. Unless they end up with a huge sales lead on Microsoft again, I don't see how they can continue to let PS Now look so underwhelming next to Microsoft's comparable services, especially when I consider how much more quality IP they already have than Microsoft and knowing they're only going to continue to add to it. For example, the fact first party exclusives often wait years - note that is plural - before being added to PS Now isn't a good look when someone with a Gamepass sub will be able to play the new Halo day one, without owning either Xbox console it will be playable on.

@jdv95 Its Pro MS they dont have too pay the bill to develop the games i see it as devalue of games. MS should fix the Trump campaing taking credit for problems they created and which they now have fixed.

@Dodoo When Microsoft finally gets it streaming up and running it would be cool if we could get game pass on PlayStation and PlayStation now on Xbox.

This is just ridiculous talk by someone in fear of having already lost the battle. If
He believes what he’s saying why are they launching new hardware anyway? Go back to your Game&Watch cause that’s all gaming is about...(so sad I don’t have anymore my old Game&Watch by the way lol)

Phil’s an idiot, he’s holding back Microsoft Studios games by going this route. Meanwhile PlayStation is gonna have games that take advantage of the console’s new features right out of the gate. Gotta say though, I love that they’re first party games are also coming to PC, so I ain’t wasting any more money on Microsoft’s little plastic boxes.

spencer must be under a lot of stress.. he's swinging widely from the gob in the hope of landing a hit. nobody's talking about MS's "moah powweerrrrrrr". and satya nadella's priority is microsoft, not xbox - he's not going to throw billions at a division if it's failing and not looking like it can turn it around - this is the reason the xbox does not have truly dedicated xbox one/x exclusivity - the model would be nowhere near as financial viable for it as it is for sony..so MS throws its stuff and services on more devices. it's got nothing to do with being "pro-gaming".

@3Above It’s not viable long term, and when the inevitable price increase happens this coming gen, there’s likely to be blowback.

Phil Spencer plays to his audience. That’s it.

Phil is full of s.it. If that came earlier than after xbox catasteophe, maybe I believed him. Locking games on to any platform means better games for all. Because everyone tries to be better then other. In his purple optimistic world, MS can only do hardware (in which is good) and sell Sony games in its store. I dont know. I like him before. But now he is full of that make all games together for everyone. Sorry Phil, world doesnt work like that.

Why lock experiences to the new gen if it could run on old gen. Like the miles morales game could probably run on ps4 but will be locked to ps5.

Xbox game pass confirm for ps5

Ironic that the guy who has made a huge point in multiple press conferences about buying up developers and locking them down to xbox game studios is the one saying this.

I mean, Phil has a point about PC gaming... games are designed to work on many different systems, at little to no detriment to the game.

Don’t get me wrong; as a console gamer, I want exclusives and a real showcase of what the system can do, but honestly I think Microsoft has learned a lot this generation and is doing a good thing here. Let the developer decide, all while growing the install base for a game and studio.

That means Project xCloud on PS4 and 5 confirmed!

Clearly Playstation is...raci***!

@MedaXbot they’ve already said they made changes to it for the ps5 so it wouldn’t actually.

@Futureshark are you 10 years old?

He’s not really making a great deal of sense here. What he is suggesting will absolutely hold back certain elements of the next gen games. Like graphical fidelity, load times.
Xbox are welcome to use whatever strategy they like but Sony have historically had the better exclusive games, which is why I stick with them.

@swagbag713 I agree with the last part of your comment. Sony haven’t been very clear about backwards compatibility and it’s the one thing that frustrates me as a Sony fan.

Says the guy who brought how many studios to make exclusive games for gamepass.

He will be fired in 2 years.

Okay, have Halo release on Playstation. Then start talking when your console sales begin to dip.

You can't go halfway with your argument, Phil. You either have all of it, or none of it.

Eh. I understand his vision: he wants Xbox to be more like PC gaming, where games will work across a variety of systems and scale performance and visual fidelity accordingly. In this view, companies are holding exclusives hostage to force people to pay hundreds of dollars they otherwise wouldn't bother spending in order to play the latest games.

But... well... we already have PC for that. And part of the reason this works so well for PC is because you can customize the end user experience to suit your needs. If my system isn't powerful enough to play something at, say, 4K/60, I can reduce the textures or resolution or other settings until I get it to the point where it runs like I want it. You can't do that on Xbox.

What consoles do well is host exclusive experiences that are designed with the hardware in mind. Focusing on one system allows developers to make the most of its resources, which is probably why Naughty Dog is wringing practically next-gen visuals out of a device that was underpowered five years ago.

Nintendo understands that consoles aren't PCs, which is why they're always adding fun and innovative features to their systems. Features that are basically impossible on other systems. And, of course, they also develop exclusive games that make the best use of their console's resources.

This might just be me, but I was happiest with the industry when hardware was wildly different and most of the games on each system were basically exclusive to that hardware. It did, of course, mean spending a few hundred extra dollars whenever you wanted access to a new ecosystem, but it also meant access to a wildly different gaming landscape. There was so little overlap between systems like the N64 and GameCube vs. the PS1 and PS2 that it felt worthwhile and exciting to own both.

We're a long ways away from that in this age of multiplatform game development, but Sony and Nintendo at least still try to design experiences that make the most of their hardware and add some diversity and distinction to their libraries.

I feel like Spencer is licking his chops dreaming of a world where consoles don't exist and the Xbox/Nintendo/Playstation brands are just apps you install on all your devices, and I feel like something is lost at that point.

I love this one:
'only “people who are too caught up in device competition” believe Xbox Series X’s software will be held back by its commitment to the Xbox One'
A beauty.
🤓

@MarcG420 Idk I feel like the only game shown so far that looks next gen is ratchet and clank. So i get keeping that game off of ps4 cause it can't work but what's the reason why the new spidey game can't be on ps4?

That brick of a console, was just never meant to be.

How many studios did Microsoft snap up in the last few years? Are they going to release games on other consoles?

@PhenomenalOne He knows that PS5 is the AJ Styles of consoles.

"Remember you can only play Gears 5 right here on Xbox" sound familiar Phil?

He's a fan boy through and through throwing his toys out of the pram because Xbox hasn't got a pot to piss in compared to all the Sony first party exclusives.

Cool Phil. I look forward to playing the latest Halo on my Atari 2600

I think console exclusivity is precisely what gaming is and should be about. It spurs healthy competition in the marketplace, creates more reasons for you to sell your consoles. Makes you sweat. In the end, it creates more value and choice for end user.

The same Microsoft when it emerged out of Xbox 360 era used all sorts of draconian policies because it didn't consider Sony a level competition. We all know how those stank for the end user. Now, look at them with Smart Delivery and specs and all consumer-friendly features they are touting. If it weren't for PS5 pushing them, they'd be doing worse than Xbox One launch debacle.

Lol that sounds like a man that doesn't have any games.

Taking a step back, there has always been a complaint, largely from PC players, that exclusivity limits people to being able to play all titles on their platform of choice. I get that, it would be great as a consumer to be able to do so.

However, in my opinion, this generation has proven that first party content from the likes of Sony and Nintendo is essential to the game industry because third party AAA publishers rarely fund the type of games that first parties make because their business model is different. I mean would Activision or Ubisoft have sunk the kind of money into games like Breath of the Wild, God of War or The Last Of Us - expansive single player games, with no MP or monetization options? Of course not.

First party games are designed to attract different player bases to your system and create an element of brand loyalty, which yes, is about locking people to their eco system to get more money. At the same time, the benefit is it means it has fuelled some truly unique games.

Phil Spencer's interview is baffling - MS is still paying for timed or console exclusives or promoting major third party games on Gamepass so that isn't true. They are investing in acquiring game studios which will clearly make console exclusive titles. So that isn't true.

Everyone knows that most publishers target two generations at the start of a new one to make sure they can cover their investment because the amount of early adopters is lower than the previous install base. It isn't about player choice. Ultimately, however all publishers will want to push next gen and games after 1-2 years will only be possible on new gen tech.

I get that PC gamers can run on lower end hardware and that developers provide for them but at a certain point, that also stops or the experience is so degraded it makes it pointless. In fact, one could argue that PC gamers are held back because majority of users don't all have high end systems that can run.

The whole interview is baffling.

This is all part of the MS marketing push to sell Xbox SX as a smartphone is sold.

It's an upgrade that works identically to your previous model, but more power. Plays all your same old apps (games) but faster and better clarity.

Unfortunately, consoles are not smartphones no matter how much Phil and co try to change the market conception.

well, I really wanna play Ori on my ps4, isn't that against what gaming is all about? Some (including myself) might ask: what's the point of having consoles anyway? Think before you say anything, sir!

So they wont mind sharing Halo then? Or Forza? Maybe Gears of War?

@MedaXbot Has to do with map traversal and fast travel apparently. Sufficient to say because they’ve rebuilt the game for ps5 though, it’s as simple as that really.

why not just enjoy your Xbox and stop complaining about the competition running itself like a business grow up

Ok... but what exactly has xbox put out this year ? Sony had Last of us 2 and this friday Ghost too, yet xbox has had what exactly? Nothing note worthy I'm sure. Look I own a xbox S but its currently gathering dust since there exclusives are garbage and NON existent

for the head of a company that doesn't really have that great of an exclusive list to talk about i think this is a bit rich from Phil, Sony could have just phoned in the rest of the current gen with the PS4 being the success its been but they kept releasing massive games. I really have no idea where the good will for Microsoft comes from to be honest ive enjoyed games on Xbox but the way they get talked about sometimes youd think they were stopping wars.

I see the expected comments here, Game Pass IMO is amazing value, it’s something Sony will never offer as that’s not their business model, Microsoft has changed and adapted their model and its working from what I see, it also means games are open to a much wider audience so more return for developers so more games being made faster.
I think both approaches are working to be honest, Exclusive and Game Pass cross gen. I can u defat and why Microsoft would criticise it though as the future is going to be all about game streaming weather you like it or not, even Sony is looking into it more and more.

@ArmyofOne And the PS5 isn’t a souped you PS4 in a new shiny box? Talk about hypocrisy..

@MarcG420 Actually only the first run of PS3 60GB too end models had the PS2 chip in them, this was later removed and they used software emulation, which was then again removed. Since the PS3 So us backwards compatibility record hasn’t exactly been glowing, look at the languished used by them now, they believe consoles are about new generations and experiences ‘read’ PS5 is for PS5 games and not older gem games.. Microsoft’s record in backwards compatibility is much more rosey.

@S1ayeR74 you’ll notice I did say they later removed the backwards compatibility...

When I poop and look in the toilet bowl, I see Phil Spencer's face every time. Does that imply something?

Sounds like jealousy exclusives are what makes a console unique. Its selli point

I'm about 98% sure that if the situation was in reverse and Xbox had 9 exclusive software IPs that could only be played on the Xbox Series X - He'd probably think differently about what gaming is about.

Hi there fellow gamers. I´ve said this once, I´ll say it again. The ONLY reason people buy new gaming systems is to play NEW games and have new EXPERIENCES that you couldn´t possibly have in prior machines.
That´s is why people that want to play a vast different sum of games, need to purchase different gaming consoles to be able to play guess what?...... Yes, that´s right. EXCLUSIVES that you can´t play anywere else.
That is why I personaly have a PS4, a Nintendo Switch and a Powerful PC to both work and leisure. It is also the reason I´m buying a new PS5 to play games such as Spiderman: Miles Morales, Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart, Demon´s Souls Remake and Horizon: Forbidden West, just to name a few, wich are exclusive to PS5.
The main reason Phill Spencer is saying what he is saying, might be because they won´t have many exclusive games on the new Xbox, specifically at launch. Also because you can play them on PC. Wich is what I´m going to do.
Phill is trying his best to make the system he supports to be amazing and consumer friendly as possible because that is his job.
He clearly has done really good work in making Xbox brand more appealing, but until they have more than just Halo, Gears and Forza(wich are good, mind you) they will be lacking in the most important aspect of a gaming system, old and new alike.
Cheers, stay safe everyone and happy gaming to us all

"Spencer believes that only “people who are too caught up in device competition” believe Xbox Series X’s software will be held back by its commitment to the Xbox One. Meanwhile, developers like Insomniac Games, who are working on Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, have said that it’s impossible to achieve the same gameplay experience in that title on the PlayStation 4. I"

That is called progress MS

@ArmyofOne So long as you like third person action adventure games only that is...

@Ralizah All great points. The suits at Xbox either fundamentally misunderstand the market greatly or they are deciding to leave the console space behind altogether.

Looks like MS is starting to figure out that people aren't buying their strategy of making a bunch of X1 games cross gen instead of actually making next gen games.

@RaZieLDaNtE funny. You say NEW games, NEW experiences, yet the games you've named, how are they gonna be vastly different, than their ps4 counterparts?
People SAY they want NEW games and NEW experiences, I think they just want NEW games of their favorite ip's. Remakes in movies and games. "Nothing's left, it's all been done before
Nothing new, nowhere to explore" -ICP

@PhhhCough Hi there friend. To be fair, I definitely want sequels for games and franchises that I love. Having said that, some of the games that I mentioned were brand new on PS4, like Spiderman, Bloodborne, Days Gone, Horizon Zero Dawn and Ghost of Tsushima. They didn´t exist on PS3.
And we can probably say that PS5 is going to have brand new games as well. Will it have sequels of it´s most famous and beloved games and franchises? Absolutely. You can bet on it. Will they be great? Most likely they will, yes. And as for brand new games and new experiences, when that´s never happened in a brand new genaration of gaming systems? It is 100% certain.
New games are the thriving force of any new console. And when the system has the technology to not only improve but also create new ways of interaction, that is a good bonus in my book. Thanks for the reply, cheers and have a good one

Seems a bit classless to me - he should stick to talking about the strengths of his platform without taking digs at the competition, especially competition who gave his platform a good kicking this gen!

This guy bores the crap out of me... 😴😴😴😴 Can’t win gamers over the right way so his slates the competition. But technically he’s a hypocrite because Xbox are buying these studios that are producing Xbox exclusive games? Which is technically (locking) PlayStation gamers out of these games. Not that I’m bothered but it’s the same scenario.

Sony says ‘wait for PS5 sales’ before comparing it to Microsoft’s Xbox marketing. As Sony believe the sales will do the talking. (Credit (The Verge) Wise words 😂 maybe Phil Spencer needs to read these words over and over again!

I sense something but not sure what it is by what Phil is trying to say.

Ok so there are two sides to the fence the one where ok you release your new games maybe ips to the next gen and only next gen or certain games to take advantage of certain things to maybe kick start your sales to entice give people reasons to buy it over the previous generation or the other side is you give both platforms the same game with just upgraded visuals in my head I feel the fans would rather wait longer to buy the new console if they can get the same game on the current gen in this option which let's be honest the graphics are amazing anyway so why would someone spend that amount of money buying a console if you already have something decent and let's not forget cross play either so I think its wrong for Phil to be giving this sort of dig.

I understand it won't force players to upgrade but if you want the best graphics arent you going to put all of your resources into that one version to focus on than time doing both at the same time.

With the rumors that all current Xboxs are being discontinued it's kind of misleading. You can play next gen games on your current gen console if you already own it. How many Xbox1 owners felt burned by their console this gen? I know i did. Especially on their 1st party offerings. Basically Xbox has to kill it on games this gen and even if they do i dont have to buy their new console. Seems divisive to me

more classless tripe from a man who should have been fired 2 years ago!

For a console that plays the same exact games I wouldn't buy a new one lol 0 sense

Damn right, Xbox won’t be forced into next gen because it has nothing for next gen!

So what's the point of next gen consoles? , sounds like a man who already knows he's defeated..... Again

Pillsbury Phil at it again with classless digs Microsoft should have fired him years ago he is the one that is responsible for XBONE demise and when they had Mattrick's during 360 era ( they actually have great exclusives ) they are actually competitive just messed up the reveal for XBONE. WHICH CAN BE EASILY TURN AROUND IF PHIL JUST DONE HIS JOB RIGHT.

FFS THE PS3 REVEAL IS MUCH DISASTEROUS THAN XBONE REVEAL BUT SONY MADE THAT THING INTO A SUCCESS

continuously bad mouthing your competition is a sign that you simply are not as good as he competition. in doing so you are showing that you have nothing left but to resort to name calling which translates to admitting "defeat" since you can't rely anymore on your actuall products to prove you are better.

Cant wait to see those announcements that Halo, Gears, Forza are coming to both PS4 and PS5 since he hates platform exclusives and not being locked into buying Next Gen..

When you have nothing to offer, insult the competition.

I feel like MS wants people to forget about generations. The series X (still a horrible name) is a letdown to me, just a more powerful XboneX. This generation they are not making any significant changes to the system, so the games will be significantly the same.

This is just damage control. MS wants Halo on every platform possible to make a ton of money. So they will make a game that scales appropriately.

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I've been doing this for over 40 years now. Phil is wrong. You expect next gen to be next gen. Xbox is failing its faithful.

Phil Spencer being salty like always it's about the exclusives for me.Playstation will let there games do the talking like Jim Ryan said.

So Phil bad mouths the Ps5 and there exclusives because he hopes people will jump to Xbox?.................. AND play what? Halo and Forza?

Phil Spencer being salty like always.Playstation is all about those sweet exclusives for me.

LMAO what a fool! Why buy a new Xbox when you can get all the same games on the One X! Completely defeats the purpose of hardware! PS5 games will be made to take full advantage of the hardware and is a great incentive to buy the system!

Remember when he said Sony wasn't their competition. Well you got your ass kicked in sales this generation and are talking about Sony non-stop so yeah I'd say they're your competition! What a loose cannon! I think he's on drugs!

If this dweeb spent half the time he spends going after playstation on making xbox a better platform, we'd acctually would have some good competition. When someone attacks this much this early, they're scared.

Xbox has become a Microsoft service as opposed to a console, developers for Xbox now have to makes games for a variety of low end to high end pc and Xbox one - one x - series x also gamepass and there other services, for the first couple of years Xbox series x won’t be a next gen console for developers to focus there creativity and what they want to make with no restrictions like Sony first party with ps5 Will be able to, third party developers will still support everything obviously it doesn’t matter for them regardless.
It’s not like PS4 gamers are short on exclusives like Xbox gamers are with so many this year weather fully exclusive eg ghost of Tsushima or timed exclusives eg final fantasy 7 remake and console exclusive but on pc aswell eg godfall, deathloop.

Im not being forced into anything. Grow up Phil and find some class. These digs are pathetic. And people say fans are responsible for stupid console wars. Jeez

I get the hardware scales for the CPU and GPU, older games taking advantage of the newer faster hardware. We have a wildcard this time the SSDs in both consoles, games intended to run on the older harddisk need to be designed accordingly. PS5 exclusives you know your base hardware has SSD nothing to hinder the developer. We'll see what happens by the end of 2021 when Horizon 2 comes out designed to take full advantage of the PS5.

Microsoft has nothing to show. While else is he attacking Sony? I am glad Sony does not fall for it and responds back so Phil looks pathetic.

Cool. I guess that means I'll be able to play Halo Infinite on the Xbox 360, then.

shrugs

As technology progresses, people have to buy new hardware to experience new games. That's just the way of things.

Phil, seriously you're an idiot. You say exclusives are against gaming, you say you're not forcing people into next gen, then why release a console at all, just keep producing the OneX?

Oh, of course, because you know that is BS and the words of a broken, defeated leader.

You know Xbox can't compete, you know Xbox has already lost and you resort to name calling and downplaying your competition in the hope that morons will believe you and buy an Xbox despite not 'forcing' people's decisions? Do you see the irony in your own words Phil?

You're not fooling anyone and Xbox will lose again this gen. Why buy an Xbox if I can get all the same worthwhile games and more somewhere else since as you say exclusives are wrong. Literally no point in your platform and that is why you will not only fail, but cease to exist as a platform unless a major reform is done at Xbox. Again!

Thanks for saving me a purchase Phil. Itll make it that much easier to buy a PS5.

This is why I like PS, they’re keeping out of this fight and letting Phil look like a muppet on his own.

The guy is sounding like a scared competitor to me!

At this point people are clamoring for a next generation and I'm sure console developpers are more than happy to play with more powerful hardware, you can already feel how some games where the base PS4 was kind of an afterthought.

What amazes me is how much time Phil Spencer spends talking about Sony and PlayStation. They can't even shape the agenda let alone set it.

Maybe he should focus on their own console rather than their competitor, we rarely see sony badmouthing their competitor.

The tribalism is reaching critical mass lol. Both platforms are awesome and approaching next gen differently. It's great for all of us in the end!

I know Jin Ryan is forcing me to buy a PS5 holding a gun to my head. 🥺

Here's hoping Sony has full backwards compatibility with all console generations. What a shock that would be.

I really hope Sony nails the pricing, games and positioning strategy in their 'final reveal.' They've done brilliantly so far and have been able to offer us such great gaming experiences this gen. I'm a big PS VR fan, and I can really believe and see that Sony means what they say when they talk about innovation, which seems to be a lost concept on Xboxes. I remember when they said 'no-one is interested in VR'. Kick in the teeth much? Have they not been able to open their eyes to the Oculus and Vive platforms also? Microsoft/Xbox is a sleepwalking 'gaming' company, which unfortunately appears to say anything if they think it'll favour their predicament.

those xbox folks man... sheeesh.
just admit that Sony is better..... buy a PS5 and enjoy the exclusives!!
how hard is that?
i know i am hahahhaha muhhhahahahahaah!!!!

I think what he says is interesting. They are almost treating it like a pc upgrade or a phone upgrade. Software still works on the older ones but works best on newer hardware. Perhaps it’s even the beginning of them moving to more or an iPhone style annual or biannual release.
I get Sony’s argument that focusing on that one platform will mean we get the very best games rather than being held back by the older hardware though. Both approaches have merit and it will be interesting to see how it’s received.

@wiiware it’s exactly what Sony did with the whole lending a game to your mate thing. If what MS is doing is crap then it’s nothing for Sony to worry about, if it works out then maybe Sony adopt it in the future and we all win.

Spencer: "fans won't be forced into next gen".
Sony: "we're doubling production of PS5 to meet demand"

"investments in gaming should move to the next generation" - PS4 games will be playable on PS5, presumably most if not all the peripherals will work too.. so it's not like you have to dump it all. also sony will continue to support PS4 for the next few years, even if first party moves onto PS5. this year PS4 owners have had ghost of tsushima, the last of us 2, dreams, final fantasy vii remake, persona 5 royal, nioh 2, MLB 20.. all exclusive (or console exclusive) to PS4 and all at least mid-80s on metacritic, which says more about sony's support for PS4 than spencer's snide remarks about continuity do about xbox one support.. sony could have held back GoT, and TLoU2 and released them for PS4 and PS5 on launch PS5 day.. the fact it hasn't i think says more about their confidence of pushing forward with PS5 than dwelling on designs of the previous era.. Spencer's focused on the teraflop race that nobody was really running. they were expecting the same old games from two the last generations. so what if you get gears of war at 1080p/120fps, it's not bringing anything fundamentally new to the table. whereas sony's focus seems to be on hardware that allows what would be hitherto impossible on console, of course whether that's leveraged to its maximum potential remains to be seen.

This nonsense makes me laugh, not forcing anyone to next gen. Once they start selling the new Series X they will drop Xbone like a hot potato, once they realise developers dont want to compromise running there games on older tech. Hey I'm all for old tech running and running. I'm a diehard retro gamer. But Microsoft are living in a dream world. Ps5 will destroy them again.

Shame and they won’t getting any true next gen games built from the ground up for their new console for the next 2 years.
Never mind.

His comments are even more ridiculous now MS have officially announced all previous Xboxes apart from S are being discontinued... What was that about not forcing people into new generations?

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/7/16/21327330/microsoft-xbox-one-x-s-digital-edition-discontinued?__twitter_impression=true

When Microsoft delivers on exclusives, then this mouthbreathing lemming can talk smack about Sony.

Ha ha! What a load of rubbish! Just because Microsoft can't do it, doesn't mean it's wrong, as Sony, Nintendo, Sega etc have been proving for years!

@SirAngry exactly this. When you can't lead, you follow

@gmxs He does not force you too buy a new but he just wont let you the old one. 😆

@Flaming_Kaiser LOL Why can I imagine that being part of some weird PR speech tho

@Tacktful Phil Spencer spends more time talking about PS5 than Jim Ryan, it's actually quite embarrassing.

@Rudy_Manchego I dont understand this you make a powerhouse and you dont want too double down for something great too push your new hardware. Whats the use of getting a new console then isnt it cheaper too put a little more ram in the Xbox X and go on. I know that a lot of people like the standard 3rd party stuff im loving the new COD now. I could even life with a little graphics boost above the Pro and a solid 60FPS and quiet console then again i love the loading upgrade with the PS5 i even find the PS4 good looking with the Firstparty games.

'You don't need to buy our new XBox!' is how I read what he's saying lol. Weird way to promote your new console.

Its hypocritical too btw.
They want people to believe they held out on true next gen games for two years just because they care about gamers not to be 'forced' to upgrade. (People believe that? 🤦‍♂️) The games their studios are about ready to release simply are cross gen , simple as that. Halo infinity was revealed a long time ago.
Meanwhile, Shu is excited about the progress of AI and VR in the next few years.

I'm not buying a PS5 for at least another year or two and there are far too many good PS4 games I have yet to play to care. I don't have the time for Demon's Souls, Miles Morales and Horizon 2 yet, and I never thought I'd be playing them on PS4, so it's really just posturing my Microsoft. They want to be the consumer centric brand after their Xbone launch messaging debacle that was very anti-consumer.

And they have just discontinued the Xbox one x. Well done Microsoft you are muddying next gen as you did at the start of this gen, And are starting to look like hypocrites. Just make a game for your series x and make it true next gen not holding it back to work on a Xbox one.
Why the hell would you buy a series x.

Wow, what a toxic article.

@BlueOcean

How exactly?

@NorrinRadd "Xbox boss Phil Spencer has continued his assault on Sony".

@Porco Yeah, PushSquare has become the most toxic gaming website/community worldwide. Guess clicks are worth it. Too bad because it used to be decent.

Lol, and then discontinued xbox one x and digi 's. What a tool

@NorrinRadd I don’t know why…. This is all Phil Spencer doing by making all these moronic remarks. He should have just kept his mouth shut about it and just focus on his upcoming show, but hey! he didn’t, so here we are...

Having just read the You Are the Future of Gaming article via the link above, I did not see Phil referring to Sony's strategy at all. He doesn't even say "unlike others" as this very article states. Phil's comments are being taken completely out of context.

Sony's strategy is different to Microsoft's strategy. You may have a preference (and I have to say I do lean more in Sony's direction here), but both are just as valid as the other.

I think people are misunderstanding. Phil is making the transition to the next gen as smooth as possible imo. I know the Xbox series X would not be limited due to backwards compatibility because Xbox one X was certainly not. I believe he has a more economical approach. If xbox has a console option without any controllers or hdmi cables that we have presently , it could mean a less expensive console option and with a bonus of having games already available instead of the next gen drought. When new consoles release in my experience ,its a wait on the good titles after completing launch titles which some new gen games may not be favorable. I like that after completing the next gen game of my choice, I can then go back to completing my backlog until the next best thing releases. I don't think he means Next-gen titles should be designed to run on current-gen consoles, too. I think his philosophy is if you buy a between generation game "digitally"(upcoming games like cyberpunk) "your game" should be reinstalled with next-gen upgrades , next gen visuals ,and next gen features instantly when you upgrade your console to Xbox series X (So, current xbox one game upgrades to series X game automatically). That way you can continue where you left off (saves). I think its a great idea, some gamers can now buy games like cyberpunk instead of waiting for a release on Xbox Series X . Next gen games will be new games that were never released on current gen. Phil may get resistance from companies who are trying to get a quick cash grab for definitive editions who just added some fresh paint to their games(They will have to work harder to get my cash now). I think its a great idea. Thanks Phil.

@TimG13 I read Phil's interviews again because I didn't remember the statements that Sammy Barker is reporting. His "journalism" is misinformation and sensationalism.

"won't be forced into the next-generation"

Mean while we've stopped manufacturering XboxOne X, XboxOne S.

Lmfao, he can talk up the Xbox Division all he wants, but they still have a hell of a lot to prove after this past generation. Meanwhile I’m skipping the Xbox all together this gen and playing their exclusives on PC. When Microsoft starts cranking out software that can compete with PlayStation Studios and their experiences, then he can talk smack.

So they will continue to make games on hardware that was trounced by there closest rival while offering nothing more than 60fps on there new 500 quid machine, nice one Phil ha ha ha ha

Thing is I'm bored of my PS4, I know there are people that when new hardware releases, they can't wait to have it and they wanna play the games made FOR it.

It's like the people at Xbox just don't know what it's like to be a consumer. Cool to make your games accessible for previous gen but in essence all that is doing is taking less focus on the next gen console. One size fits all is never the answer.

It's ok they can always remaster Halo 3 for the 17th time it's all gone downhill since the 360 he's just jealous he'll be ok

@theMEGAniggle

I think there will be games that are" made for it "and games from previous gen. The thing is ,some gamers have a backlog and don't necessarily need to focus on next gen, until its something worthy of attention. Hopefully it will stop developers from sending rushed games to launch. Cause gamers can kindly ignore and keep completing backlog instead of looking for something new to play that hasn't been completed or optimized. We had alot of that this gen,and besides all the good games don't roll out at launch anyway. With the exception of early adopters , most usually buy a new console off the promise of future releases or buy when games of choice releases.

My Xbox hasn't been touched for months and months. Why would I invest in the series X when I can play your 2 games on the one X? No logic to their system apart from gamepass. Which I don't even subscribe to. I want Next Gen games and the series X doesn't provide it. I'm expecting a free fall.

@Ko512 There were cross-generation games on Xbox One and PS4 when the current generation started so it will be the same but better on Series X because the next-gen version is free if you already own the game. Like you said, it's just a transition to the next generation with free remasters and it won't hold Series X back. Microsoft said that after 1-2 years, games will no longer be supported on Xbox One. Anyway, the first year of a console is very quiet, just look at PS4's drought. I know because I got mine at launch and all I had were cross-gen games and remasters (Knack was an awful launch game). It's going to take a long while before PS5 gets its first-party games excluding launch titles Spiderman and Astro's Playroom.

Besides, Ubisoft and CD Projekt are supporting this idea on Series X and PS5 so not sure why some people think it's a bad idea when it's excellent.

@BlueOcean

Agreed, I'm guessing some are prioritizing the "hype of it all" and wanting their honeymoon phase with the new consoles .

😂basically making excuses for not having exclusive games

@EquiinoxGII @banacheck

The logic is ; While in the middle of playing those "two games "and say if you eventually decide to upgrade to the XBX series X. The "two games" will upgrade with you for free.

@SaikoWaifu2003 Why? He said it's going to happen with the first games only.

@BlueOcean . Im not a PC player,but don't PC players adjust their settings or upgrade the rig to get the most out of games? Xbox is automatically adjusting crossgen games only to higher settings. Hope that clears things up for Saiko

@Ko512 True. The most ambitious games are PC games and they aren't held back by weaker PCs. Xbox consoles run Windows so games are easily scalable. Besides, he said for a couple of years only.

If he thinks selling a new system based on third party games and backward compatibility is a good strategy he hasn't been paying attention. There's a reason MS said last year they saw Amazon as primary competition: they're not even competing for the #1 spot. They're just trying not to be last.

This is exactly what Phil Spencer said:

"We want every Xbox player to play all the new games from Xbox Game Studios. That’s why Xbox Game Studios titles we release in the next couple of years—like Halo Infinite—will be available and play great on Xbox Series X and Xbox One. We won’t force you to upgrade to Xbox Series X at launch to play Xbox exclusives.

Your Xbox One gaming accessories come into the future with you, too. The Xbox Elite Controller and Xbox Adaptive Controller all work on Xbox Series X, so you don’t have to purchase new controllers. We believe that your investments in gaming should move with you into the next generation".

When Phil said the last part (where he could be comparing Microsoft with Sony or Nintendo) he is not talking about games but accessories compatibility.

Now compare the original text with the article on this page:

"Xbox boss Phil Spencer has continued his assault on Sony and its PlayStation 5 strategy, saying that fans "won't be forced into the next-generation" as Microsoft commits continued support to Xbox One's various permutations. "Unlike others, we believe that your investments in gaming should move with you into the next generation," he cattily continued on the subject of accessories.

It's all getting a bit heated ahead of next week's Xbox showcase, but only one side is consistently talking about the competition. PlayStation, for the most part, appears to be focused on its own approach".

@BlueOcean CDPR has made it clear Cyberpunk for PS4 will receive the PS5 upgrade version free. I thought Ubisoft made the same commitment. I could be wrong there. Either way, the PS4 version will play on the PS5 so to a degree there's really non-issue there.

@Kropolis Yes, that's what I said, that Ubisoft and CD Projekt support this idea on Series X and PS5. These are the typical cross-gen games. It has happened before but now Microsoft, Ubisoft and CD Projekt give the upgraded version for free.

@lacerz Yeah. I've been having for thirty years. Every console purchase was done for exclusives. Third party games hey sprinkled in somewhere. Spencer seems to think he can sell a system designed for third part games and games from older XB systems. That's not looking at the future. That's living in the past.

That PC remark was kind of stupid. Any pc game you buy has its MINIMUM system requirements, if you meet that bare minimum you will NOT achieve the highest fidelity etc...
If they really truly honestly believe the nonsense Spencer is spewing prove it. Release halo 123356789 etc on Playstation otherwise STFU with your rhetoric

@jamberino93 https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-07-16-microsoft-officially-discontinues-xbox-one-x-and-xbox-one-s-all-digital-edition there is link to confirm about discontinue

@TWOscrews Well, as examples you have Doom and Wolfenstein 2 running on totally different architecture that is mobile and dated even by 2017's standards, Nintendo Switch. Compare those versions to the Xbox One X games. Anyway, it's going to happen with the cross-gen games only and for a couple of years. You won't have fully next-gen games on PS5 at launch either because the first games have been in development for years and show slight upgrades over PS4: Spider-Man. It happens every generation. Both Series X and PS5 real next-gen games are a few years away. They won't be there at launch.

Is that seriously the look microsoft picked for the series x? 😂😂 wtf that ***** looks like hundreds of legos stacked on top of each other

@BlueOcean guess what? they deleted my comment. i guess what i said about pushsquare rehashing its articles and encouraging hostility in the comments with these types of articles struck a nerve with someone.

@jdv95 @jdv95 that's the thing though.

This hardware on paper is not as fast as the XB1, but fidelity will be ahead of it for some time. The SSD concept rendered within the PS5, has a helluva better processing power 'for the buck', with a lower RAM still to boot.

We call that innovation that even they newest AMD processor's current processor speeds are not outputting on a similar scale. Not saying they aren't better, just that what PlayStation has done is redesigned for hardware like not done before.

That's innovation at the core, and why I'm still all-in on the PS5!

I think they're gonna find that sales are going to suffer somewhat for next-gen because of the state of the world. It seems silly to put all your eggs in one basket as Sony seems determined to do.

Of course they may be lying just to get people to upgrade and then pull a switch on them and release the games. That would honestly be hilarious.

@Porco
‘...guess what? they deleted my comment. i guess what i said about pushsquare rehashing its articles and encouraging hostility in the comments with these types of articles struck a nerve with someone.’ he said cattily.

😉👍

Ha look comments like that arnt coming from a place of comfort ......... hey has anyone seen how ps4 is going this gen 🤔

Gamer Phil: No generation left behind! Paywalling exclusives is bad, we won't force anyone to upgrade!
Also M$: Oh yes,we are quietly discontinuing XB SAD & XBX,but just buy next gen! Also if you want the best/accurate skins for Airports & extra aircraft types in Flight Sim,you'll need to buy the Mega-edition one!!
If he's so concerned about using XB controllers on XBSX etc. does that mean they're selling a bare bones series X with no controllers?

Too bad for Phil since forcing people to buy an Xbox is the only way they're going to sell any to most people.

@BlueOcean
L'Both Series X and PS5 real next-gen games are a few years away.'
Not true or you didnt watch PS5 event. Sure it takes a few years to use the potential but many games shown are developed from the ground up for PS5. R&C for instance seems not too far from launch.

Edit
I know the article is a bit over the top but it s real. Spencer repeatedly takes shots at Sony but in a way that's not too obvious at first glance. Then he goes talking about how console warriors are crap and 'my piece of plastic is better than your piece of plastic ' blah blah virtue signalling.

Keep saying this stuff as you dig your own grave.

@SaikoWaifu2003 I agree with you but he said that would only happen with the first games, kind of cross-generation games that can be played in upgraded form on Series X. The suggestion that it will happen throughout the generation is not true. Read my comment above with the true quotes.

@JJ2 Well, launch game Spider-Man is an upgraded semi-sequel. I agree with you that Ratchet & Clank will use the SSD speed for teleporting quickly as we have seen in the video but you won't see games that make the most of the new hardware until 1-2 years. Why? Because it takes time. Reducing loading times is automatic and applying ray-tracing is relatively easy, creating next-generation games requires time.

I just hope that all those people that believe that Xbox One will hold Series X back read Digital Foundry Series X/PS5 comparisons later this year so they can find out.

@BlueOcean
'you won't see games that make the most of the new hardware until 1-2 years. '
Is a bit of a cheap statement. (Trying to justify xbox point of view) Make 'the most' of the hardware is very subjective. You could say that will be the case in 6/7 years time like this gen.
Point is the games shown already are built for ps5 from the ground up.

@Ko512 but the backwards compatibility ensures that we can still play those games. My point is I don't want to play anything on my PS4/last gen console anymore. Any game I wanna play moving forward is on the PS5.

Let’s be honest, had they sold as many consoles and games as PS4, there is no way they would be doing this lovey dovey stuff and changing the goal posts on console sales etc. It’s called business manipulation and PR and most of us see through it.

@BlueOcean
If you are talking 3rd party then will probably be the same. As for first party Sony will wipe the floor. Horizon Zero Dawn 2 already will be above anything Microsoft will produce graphically the whole of next generation.

@BlueOcean
It's obvious that cross gen games will perform slightly better on the X because they are developed with HDD compatibility.
HDD is holding back next gen

@gmxs Like a terrible boss no you dont have too stay but you dont have too return tommorrow either the life of a flexworker.

@JJ2 OK yes, launch Series X games will have to be compatible with Xbox One S and X but, at the same time, Series X is more powerful than PS5 and just look at the huge upgrades current-gen games have on Xbox One X compared to the Xbox One S... or Switch version.

Let's wait for the Digital Foundry articles later this year to find out how launch games compare, both first-party and third-party. Developers say that Series X won't be held back by Xbox One. Yes, Xbox One has HDD so loading times will be awful on Xbox One but not only that but resolution and frame rate will take a hit. Some current-gen games have issues running on Xbox One S so it will get worse with next-gen games. It's a compatibility philosophy but in reality they're designing games for the most powerful console and with SSD in mind.

@JJ2 "If you are talking 3rd party then will probably be the same. As for first party Sony will wipe the floor. Horizon Zero Dawn 2 already will be above anything Microsoft will produce graphically the whole of next generation".

Why? I don't think that will be the case next generation and Horizon Zero Dawn hasn't the best graphics of the current generation either (that's your opinion) so there's no reason for stating that Horizon Zero Dawn 2 will have the best graphics of the whole generation.

A lot of uneducated people in this comments section, and i game on all sytems before you brand me an Xbot or whatever.

@Robinsad It's 7 years ago, you still remember it 😂

Also I don't want ps5 burdened with ps4 old cpu and hdd, no thanks. I don't like microsoft no next-gen exclusive practice.

@BlueOcean first two years of games minimum - not the first few games as you’re saying. You can bet this will extend if the sales aren’t what they want them to be for the Series X.

As for your comment saying he didn’t say what it’s being made to look like he said: it’s very clear that’s what he was doing and don’t try to act like it wasn’t. It’s very reminiscent of when closet bigot/racists act like a racist isn’t making a racist comment because it’s mildly hidden in the message.

Your attempt to downplay what he is actually saying is easy to see through for anyone who can actually read between the lines.

@BlueOcean what developers have said games won’t be held back by the Xbox one exactly?

Let’s see your sources on that one.

@BlueOcean he didn’t say they would have the best of the entire generation to be fair, just Microsoft’s offerings.

@MarcG420 Read my comment above or the original source https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/07/16/players-first-you-are-the-future-of-gaming/ to know exactly what he said instead of these reports you are reading. I've never heard Phil Spencer assaulting Sony or Nintendo but congratulating them for their success. To compare this to racist comments like you are doing is not appropriate. If you want to fight somebody look elsewhere and if you want objective and real facts wait for Digital Foundry .

@BlueOcean it’s completely appropriate, both are disingenuous. I already know exactly what he said, thanks. I’m not trying to turn it into anything other than what was said though...

Literally trying to make sense of sum of these comments....
Lets all wait for the Xbox event next week before passing judgement.
Already registered my PS5 pre order interest in the UK by the way but I still want to see what Xbox is bringing to the table.

Form the land of division Phil is true to its roots in this current age. Why can't he just say Gamers United and keep our gaming community/playground free from game politics, tech divisions, etc and just let it be our sanctuary to have flipping fun!? If someone plays switch, pc, mobile, ps4, xbox, old skool, etc then let's have a common connection and say yes we play games and it's a great laugh and fun to be. There's enough bad/rotten news and division in the world today. Does he have to bring his divisive gaming politics into our fantasy world? Let the kids and families just get on with this hobby and play for fun for God's sake. Let our hobby be untainted by vitorol please! Thanks Phil you've persuaded my wallet to go with PS5 this gen. I'm voting not just for games but also against divisive opinions and bosses and for a peaceful gaming world.

@bbq_boy The hatred is in distorted reports and vitriolic comments, not in Phil's words. He doesn't assault Nintendo or Sony. He has congratulated Sony and he has congratulated Nintendo, praising Sony’s commitment to “new things and creative things”, and describing Nintendo’s first-party catalogue as “an amazing asset.” It's just this website than finds "evil within".

https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/06/sony-did-a-nice-job-with-ps4-says-microsoft-studios-boss

@BlueOcean
You replied to the wrong person as I didnt say that. 😃
It's all a silly debate really and talking out of our @$ 🤓
Best looking will be more subjective than ever since 4k debate is about over I think
I dont know what there is to argue about. Logic says current gen is holding back next gen. I think battlefield will be next gen only next year. I hope multiplat move away from current gen quickly.

@JJ2 it’s not even logic that’s difficult to come to or without precedence: Resident Evil Village had to cut previous gen support to be able to fulfill their vision. Bungie had to cut support of previous gen in destiny so it could do things that the previous gen was holding back from.

The people saying it won’t affect games haven’t been paying attention and are ignorant of the actual facts.

@JJ2 OK, thanks for your friendly tone and I don't even disagree, I think it's just a bit more complex.

Valhalla and Cyberpunk will be cross-gen games and they'll be awesome and noticeably better on next-gen consoles (just try to imagine how Valhalla and Cyberpunk will run on Xbox One S) but it's going to take a while until real next-gen games are available, not just third-party games but even first-party games because Sony only has Spider-Man and Astro's Playroom ready for launch and they might be great but not use all of PS5 possibilities (CPU, GPU, memory, etc.). Microsoft will have next-gen exclusive games after a couple of years and that sounds like a long time but perhaps that's also the time needed for Horizon Zero Dawn 2 or Uncharted 5 to come out. So yes, basically, I agree, but I think that it's been polarised when in reality it will be a similar situation on both Series X and PS5 with the difference being that the first bunch of first-party games for Series X will also run on last-gen consoles. It doesn't mean that Spider-Man couldn't be downgraded for PS4. It's more a marketing decision to not release it for PS4.

I also want developers to make the most of both PS5 and Series X and I'm sure that they will, first and third party, but they need time. There's so much potential in both next-gen consoles and they won't waste it, I am absolutely sure .

@BlueOcean
So you are basically saying Phil 'good' Spencer is a hypocrite? I agree haha 😉
What you call 'real next-gen games' is really your personal opinion though. Again R&C and other games designed for PS5 will be coming in the following months of PS5 launch, not after 2 years.

@JJ2 Noooo, I am not saying that LOL. Well, Ratchet & Clank looks a lot like the PS4 game that I have, apart from ray-tracing and teleport BUT I'll probably like it.

@Dyrual Two things - Microsoft is not talking about adding ray tracing to Xbox one titles running on Series X (other than ones made for ray tracing of course) and Sony doesn’t need to have a badge to show whether a game is made for ps5 - They have PS5 game cases for that 🤦‍♂️

@Dyrual why wouldn’t we know a major third party game will run better on the ps5? Are we expected to believe the company will put work into optimizing for the series x but not the PlayStation 5 when PlayStation is a larger platform?

@Dyrual Also, Sony has clearly already said that games released after a certain point in time need to work on the ps5 (meaning natively - which would assure increased performance).

@Dyrual where exactly does it say the 4k is exclusive to series x 🤣🤣

Let’s see your source for this

@Dyrual https://www.ubisoft.com/en-ca/game/assassins-creed/valhalla

“PLATFORMS
XBOX SERIES X
XBOX ONE
PLAYSTATION 5
PLAYSTATION 4
PC
STADIA”

Ps5 4k version confirmed buddy.

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-ca/game/far-cry/far-cry-6

“ PLATFORMS

XBOX ONE
PLAYSTATION 4
PLAYSTATION 5
STADIA”

@Dyrual let’s see a link to this tweet.

@Dyrual well, playstation 5 versions are clearly listed. So........

@Dyrual tweet doesn’t exist anymore 😂😂😂 - This tweet is unavailable.

@Dyrual definitely lends credence to the information being accurate doesn’t it 😂😂😂

Edit: perhaps you were too quick to believe this, there were quite a few twitter accounts that were accessed fraudulently - this may be a case of that (or the infinitely more likely scenario of someone speaking about something they didn’t have all the information for). Safe to say it wasn’t accurate if the tweet was removed.

Edit: I mean really, what person would believe the ONE X would be 4K but not the much more powerful PS5 🤦‍♂️

Okay... buddy 🤣😏

@Ko512 I understand that, but honestly couldn't care. I don't see how those 2 games would be next gen when it's just an "upgrade"

I don't think Phil's comment should be viewed as an attack. He explored his philosophy and he's more than right in his own regard. Xbox hasn't been about the console recently, they care more about softwares and how players can play those games. That's why they're willing to take a huge loss in console sales, that's not how they make money.

I dont understand why everyone here is making Microsofts take sound like such a bad thing. Its great. If you want to upgrade, upgrade. If you dont, you still have some time. Pc's for a long time have had the best graphics in gaming and games are made to work across many different types of hardware. We shouldnt blindly take anything Sony or MS is doing as good or bad.

I'm still getting a ps5!

On one hand I kind of agree with him, since not everybody is going to be next gen ready as soon as these things launch. On the other hand if they wanna launch the games for both systems at the same time they'll need some new franchises for the series x by itself. It's funny seeing people say that next gen games being Released on the Xbox one will hamper them on the series x...

They can easily optimize them for the new SSD consoles while still hitting the older gen for a transitional period, then once they get a size able new bas3 they can shift away. Sony used to not have this problem during transition since you could still play the previous gen's games on the new system at launch (nobody that has a ps4 wants that anymore I guess from all the comments trashing bc over the last few years).

Is he wrong? I honestly don't think so

This article by Xbox about not forcing us into the next gen comes on the same day that Microsoft announced the discontinuation of Xbox one X and Xbox one s only leaving Xbox one s digital as an option for customers to continue buying it's the only one they'll continue to manufacture moving forward that sounds like forcing them into buying the next gen if you ask me so Sony hasn't announced the discontinuation of the PlayStation 4 PlayStation 4 pro just saying

@empirekain pay attention if possible.

MS is not "forcing" its "current generation" owners. It is no where expected for current owners to "upgrade" to next gen or be left behind.

MS is saying that "new console purchasers" aren't required to buy current Gen consoles. It is normal for a company to not produce current Gen machines when new Gen machines are being made publically available, especially when current Gen machines are years behind new generation being offered.

Your current generation console owners are not losing on "MS support". However new consumers interested in purchasing an "Xbox" will be able to obtain current Gen only if it exists (since it has already been produced). If it is not there, you can get a new Gen machine, which ever you are able to afford. For current consumers however, since they are already owners of current Gen, they do not have to worry about "purchasing new Gen" to continue playing Xbox.

Gosh, I had to literally register my self just to answer this silly comment.

When there is a heavy possibility that X Series S (Lockhart) is going to be a more affordable alternative available for new buyers who are more spending conscious, there is absolutely no need for them to purchase an older machine when it may be at best 100 bucks cheaper than Lockhart, and will be years behind.

It is common sense.

@empirekain You have that backwards, the "Xbox One S" is not being discontinued, the "All Digital" one is. Basically the main Xbox One is staying in production. You can read the excerpt the article on Pure Xbox https://www.purexbox.com/news/2020/07/the_xbox_one_x_has_officially_been_discontinued

This is getting like the SNES / Mega drive war. I don't understand why Phil Spencer keeps talking trash but I reckon he'll be out of a job soon when this falls flat on its face. He knows M$ have nothing in the line of exclusive games. He is claiming they are going to keep supporting Xbox one for at least a year into the next gen. For my money they needn't bother if that support is anything like the support it has received in the last 7 years. I think he's turning into an unhinged idiot.

Sony have already won the next gen.
Check out the handful of salty fans on Pure Xbox. The number speak for themselves.

@EquiinoxGII

is next gen not an upgrade?

@empirekain

Who wants to purchase a brand new xbox one in 2020? Its a smart move, Being that manufacturing costs, why keep manufacturing its weakest version of xbox one ? Whoever wanted any system rather it be PS4 or Xbox one should have one already imo. (choices were made years ago). I think its great microsoft stopped production so resources can be focused on the series X. The frugal gamer can buy whats left.

@MarcG420
"first two years of games minimum - not the first few games as you’re saying. You can bet this will extend if the sales aren’t what they want them to be for the Series X.

As for your comment saying he didn’t say what it’s being made to look like he said: it’s very clear that’s what he was doing and don’t try to act like it wasn’t. It’s very reminiscent of when closet bigot/racists act like a racist isn’t making a racist comment because it’s mildly hidden in the message.

Your attempt to downplay what he is actually saying is easy to see through for anyone who can actually read between the lines"

FACTSSSS

@Dyrual you were saying?

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2020/07/25/far-cry-6-ps5-resolution/

I really don’t understand how someone could possibly have thought they meant it wouldn’t be 4K on anything other than Xbox one x or series x 😂😂.

I guess you can’t make people have common sense.

@Dyrual I’m not insulting you and I was trying to help you to not spread false information, but sure.

@Dyrual then you don’t know what trolling really is.
Here’s a free suggestion; don’t spread obviously false information and nobody would have a reason to correct you with actual facts.

@Dyrual ok, when you repeatedly reply to me I’m not harrassing you. It’s called a conversation, you reply then I reply etc. Trying to say someone is harrasing you so you can get the last reply is disingenuous (I wouldn’t need to reply to you if you simply stopped replying to me; if you think I’m harassing you then maybe you should simply end the conversation).

As with all things reported one should exercise a little bit of common sense to determine if what you’re reading actually makes sense or not.

When the information is obviously false yet gets repeated that makes that person who is repeating said information look like they lack common sense.

I mean seriously, what was your thought process? Xbox one X - 4K, and yet a much more powerful next gen console not 4k? Seems logical 😂😂😂

@BlueOcean is that true? Okay I'll listen to you since you think the guys okay. But I will be watching diligently