There’s no doubt about it: the PlayStation Store is a complicated beast. Unfortunately, as Sony adds more layers to its digital shopping plaza, it’s becoming even more complex. Case in point: PlayStation Now subscribers are beginning to report license-related issues which means that they will lose access to titles – even if they’ve bought them.
The issue is so convoluted that we’re struggling to summarise it, but we’ll give it a go. Effectively, when you subscribe to the Japanese giant’s streaming service, you’re given the option to download PlayStation 4 titles to your console. This gives you a license to play the software, but it expires along with either your subscription or at the conclusion of the release’s availability.
If you were to, for example, subscribe to PS Now and download God of War, you would be able to play it until 2nd January, which is when the critically acclaimed exclusive’s scheduled to leave the service. In the meantime, you may decide to buy the game outright from the PlayStation Store, giving you permanent ownership of the release. But should your subscription lapse, you’d lose access to it.
Although this is the most egregious example, the licenses issue is causing all kinds of problems. For instance, a game such as Steep – which was a free PlayStation Plus game in January and a download on PS Now prior to that – could not be redeemed by PS Plus members who’d previously acquired it through PS Now, even though the two subscriptions may have different expiry dates.
It’s a seriously messy issue that Sony’s going to have to solve – especially as further services like EA Access threaten to complicate the problem even further. We’re not engineers, but we assume that the manufacturer may need to add multiple licenses to individual titles, each pertaining to different circumstances. Either way, consumers losing purchased items is not a good look.
[source reddit.com]
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I don't even think you get a receipt for your digital purchases either like say it's under your PSN account. I know I get emails saying thank for your purchase but I can't remember if it says what's you've bought. And how many of us actually keep these emails anyway
@Nakatomi_Uk if you go into your account settings online there is a transaction history tab which tells you everything that you've bought.
As for this issue surely purchases should have some kind of overriding licence unaffected by subscriptions?
People have been complaining about this on reddit for a while now. I can’t believe Sony hasn’t fixed this yet!
They could do with a big reboot cos there still paying for decisions made during the PS3
Reminds me of the issue with changing your display name, because in the PSN Database it seemed like your display name was what all your other data was anchored to, instead of a random non-volatile string.
So here, it seems like the PSN cant distinguish between what you bought....and what you had effectively rented.
So really, its like the system considers a PSNow download the same as a PSN Download.
But if you're part of PS Now, that almost overrides the existing one when it expires, wiping that data from your account, even if its a PSN License, not a PS Now one.
You can tell PSN wasn't designed to do this, but then again, it was designed god knows how long ago.
@Knuckles-Fajita of course, it wasn't designed for it you engineer it to become something else just like Xbox Live has been engineered to change over the years. this is not a Sony problem it is a software changing problem Google Xbox live Windows or Apple OS & you will read many things that went wrong as new ways of doing things become introduced it is the price of changing/altering software sometimes.
@David187 I did say it's an issue of not being intended to do what it is now doing.
Not a dig at Sony. I just wrote out why I thought it was happening within the logic of how PSN operates, using an a previous example of something similar (name change errors) as an example of doing things not originally accounted for (though the problems with PSN name changes is more of an actual error in logic and how data was assigned instead of simply going beyond original scope).
This is simply a case, as I said in my post, of PSN being taken beyond original specification and unintended side effects occuring.
It's fixable, all things are, it just depends how they go about it.
Not everything I say is a dig at Sony. This is actually an interesting topic, one that will come up more and more in a digital future, of services being up to snuff with how fast needs change, and if the original spec can accommodate these changes comfortably, or if it requires larger scale changes to prevent things like this.
I mean given its a network built in the mid to late 2000s it's obvious streaming wasn't intended, so the license issue is expected.
So far I have lost the digital licences of Tearaway for PS Vita, DriveClub and some of its DLC and Dragon Quest 10. For Tearaway there was a well known bug, for DriveClub I never got what happened and for Dragon Quest 10 customer service told me that since I used a voucher card this does not make a permanet digital licence. Of course all those are crap excuses that make no sense. I contacted customer support multiple times with no success. They even told me that they cannot see those purchases because they are old.
Because it's a bug, I think it will be fixed with all solved with nothing lost....now, how long it will take is another story.
Another reason to buy physical.
@belmont I also lost Driveclub and all the dlc. Took about 20 emails to get them to put it back.
Totally unrelated but not had my PS4 on for a couple of months had to update yesterday and since then my controller has a mind of its own only way I can play on the PS4 is with my steering wheel anyone else had any problems
I think if you delete the version of game you downloaded from ps now, and install version from your purchase libary it should work, when I was a member of ps now, resin 3 was on it, but I still needed to put disc to play because version I had installed was disc version. PS store would never allow me to buy games which I had already downloaded from ps now, however now my sub has expired I can buy them. Gonna contact Sony to see if they will add steep to my plus libary, does anyone know if they would do that?
I had this with Transformers: Devastation. Once they lost the license they pulled out from the store. Once it's deleted, it's impossible to get back again.
When though I've bought it... 🤔
Sony have been aware of this problem for ages but have ignored it for far too long - hopefully this article (and others like it) will apply enough pressure on them to actually sort it!
This has been a longstanding issue. I ran into it a few years ago with Plus. Games that are included with Plus that you download can't be purchased later. You technically don't own Plus games, since they require the subscription to keep playing, but you can't outright purchase them after downloading them. It's an issue Sony needs to correct.
I was hoping to buy Earth Defence Force 5 when I next get paid but this has put me off slightly. Can't even buy physical in the uk as I've been told it's digital only💩
@Gs69 hey mate
Same here havent played for a few months fired it up, update and my controller was doing weird things, no character movement going in all directions on its own, changed to my second controller and it was fine, strange tho
PS Plus locked me out of my copy of Modern Warfare Remastered after it came to Plus, Sony are still "trying to fix" my issue
@Knuckles-Fajita they bought Gaikai & Onlive so guessing those 2 companies had those capabilities & patents for streaming tech.
@Oldiebutnoobie glad I’m not the only one it’s happened to thing is I only have 1 controller at the moment don’t know how to remedy it I’m stuck playing gran turismo cos my wheel is perfect
a complete disgrace, the store needs a complete overhaul but it's going to be stuck in the PS3 era for a long long time
Streaming games is an anti-consumer service that should die
this is a taste of what the digital future will bring. so just go on and buy them digital games.
@Nintyfan
This has nothing to do with the game streaming though.
This happens when someone downloads a game through Plus or Now, and then decides to buy it.
This happened with me last year or something with Full Throttle remastered. I've not chased as i can see it in my download list on vita, and because i was disapointed by the game; but if i go to the product page on psn i only have the option to purchase it. Really irritating and cant help but be concerned about other purchases
What if u just streaming psnow titles
PlayStation Store has always been a decade behind other platform's stores.
This drives me mad. It’s actually the only reason I have decided against getting PSNow. I have PS plus and don’t want to miss out on the monthly games because I have Now. I find it crazy that Sony still hasn’t fixed it.
Good reason to buy retail Disk. It seems this happens when people play a game they own already on PS-Now. I understand the cross licenses, but not how PS Now can remove a game from you library.
Can this be as simple as deleting the Now copy and reinstalling from your library?
I REEEALLY hope they revamp the store from the ground up as its a total mess. I often go looking for horror games and have notice that many horror games are missing when you search by gere and youll often find things in there that obviously do not belong.
And its like theres different store layouts mashed into one. For instance they have the original umbrella branching system where u have a vertical list of main topics ie games, movies, featured, deals.
You pick one and that expands into mutliple sub categories (under the umbrella) of the main topic.
Thats all great minus the fact it could be tidied up and condensed not to mention the issues of miss-genred games and missing games. It needs to be maintained better but it works.
Then they have the whole newer, full page of mostly large mutiple sized jumbled icons thats seems more like the xbox system.
Im probably not making much sense lol.
Ignore me.
@lacerz this is the most annoying issue. Sometimes if something has a deep discount, I may want to purchase it for future play when I may not be subscribed to plus.
It definitely feels like a trap to keep you into plus, as you essentially lock yourself out of purchases you may want in future. It's a crazy situation, and can only be resolved by going back to physical.
And this is why I laugh when people claim PSN is on par with Live. Sony are so incompetent when it comes to online, which also makes you wonder what they do with the money they make from PS+ because it certainly isn’t reinvested into the service
It's a nightmare. I have had a few instances where I have downloaded a game from PS Now and loved it so much that I wanted to buy it also, mainly because i don't intend to be a ps now subscriber for the rest of my natural born life. And I want to support the developers etc
But because the license issue it won't let you buy it. Who ever heard of a company refusing to sell you things?? It's so freaking frustrating. Also I want to buy it at the sale price and all they say is 'you can purchase it when you no longer have an account'. IT WON'T BE ON SALE THEN WILL IT?? Urgh or even avail to buy.
@Sunnyviji if you just stream it's not a problem.
@SoulChimera @belmont Driveclub is defunct for me too. And some of its dlcs including the motorbikes!
@Gs69 Never had a problem like that but have you tried pressing the little hole on the bottom of the controler? It's a reset button, might be able to fix your controller.
There was a time early in the life of PS3 when I got free original PS1 games with PS Plus, and it bothered me later when I couldn't buy them outright with a PS Plus discount, so they would be available if I stopped subscribing. However, now that online gaming is no longer "free" it is not likely that I will cancel anytime soon.
I've had this issue in the past with tv shows that I bought either episodes or whole seasons for a couple of times. Go to watch them and they're just gone. The big bang theory tv series on ps network got me for about 4 complete seasons and a few random episodes. $130-160+ that I'm out, not to mention several games. It even says that once you purchase them, even if you delete them, you can always redownload them. They're yours forever.
I had the same problem some years ago with Driveclub. Bought the upgrade from The PSN Plus version. Some months later my subscrition ended and I lost the access to the game, even after renewing. The solution I had was to buy a phisical game....
One lesson learned, beware with digital buys...
This is really old news. It has been like this since we could download PS4 games. You are only reporting on it now because Ps Now has become up front and centre....
@belmont Exactly the same thing happened to me with NBA 2K16. I had it via Plus, it disappeared. No-one has been able to get it back for me since. It was way better than the later iterations as well so I would play that one but now I can't.
Sometimes I have a license issues but the 'restore licenses' option tucked away in the options somewhere allways helps me out
That's too bad, they should make separate downloads maybe for the Ps Now Games, at least a separate section or something...i dont want to lose my digital games but i hope this get fixed soon.
@Nintyfan if there's a game you want to buy but aren't quite sure what it's like you can watch someone streaming it, if you like it then you can buy it, if you don't like it then you don't buy it, saves us making purchases we might regret.
@lacerz Yeah i know its so annoying really nice if you miss a sale because of you cant purchase the game. 🤬
@Wraggadam So im good. 😉 With Limited Run Games i almost buy nothing digital anymore. 😆
@BarefootBowser If i will go somewhere it will never be MS. It will be Nintendo or GOG.
This has bugged me for a long time in regards to PS Plus titles showing as "purchased" so that when the game is on offer you cannot choose to properly buy it and own it, so you are duty bound to continue your PSN subscription if you ever want to play the games in future. Why can't we see offer prices too even if we do own the title? Sometimes I like to tell my brother what's on offer but need to look online because I'm effectively blocked to view the price on my console.
I've had similar problems with Apple Music vs Bought Apple Music
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