Topic: Gaming's pet peeves

@Rudy_Manchego THIS. Oh my gawd I can't stand fanboyism. It actively ruins the hobby and I feel embarrassed whenever I see it on here. There are zero problems with having a preferred system or company if you care about that, but it can't be hard to not be obnoxious about it, no?

I especially hate it when, no matter how respectfully you word your opinions, you still get branded a troll or attacked or whatever just for having a different opinion. I got laughed at on PSN once because I said The Last of Us wasn't perfect. I've also seen plenty of Game Informer's where the letters section has someone complaining about the review score of whatever game. C'mon son.

This also goes into why I hate the console wars. Why do we have "teams"? We should want the hobby to succeed instead of wanting one company to "win". It's pointless to me.

@JohnnyShoulder I have often wondered about what it must be like to be one of these thousands of people who regularly issue death threats to people in the industry. Like... why? What's that going to accomplish? How twisted must your priorities be to issue threats because something you're looking forward to was changed or delayed?

@Ralizah Yep - I also don't get the people who trash the platform they profess to love or care about. Such as Nintendo haven't released a first party game I want this quarter, how very dare they.

@JohnnyShoulder I guess it must be a power or esteem thing. I wouldn't actually do that to someone who had actually wronged me, let alone a dev or someone online who I didn't know who I might possibly disagree on something inconsequential.

@AdamantiumClaws Star Wars is crazy toxic. I really didn't like The Last Jedi but some did and I get that. I can debate it but I am not going to kickstart a remake or something dopey because its a movie and its just my opinion.

Fanboys drive me up the wall so I tend to ignore it as much as I can and stay away from websites that I know to be infested with those goons. If people want to waste time having ridiculous arguments instead of actually playing games then more fool them. We all moan from time to time; it's normal, and if we don't like or are unhappy with something it's natural to want to express that. What I don't understand is how far some actually take it.

@Ralizah Yeah, I totally understand the whole "you're not angry enough at X game" as though I should somehow be outraged on their level. If someone doesn't like a game, that's fine, but by the same token isn't it fine for me to like it? I dislike the hive mentality of it.

@Rudy_Manchego Nintendo did it to attack you personally. I would be angry if I were you. No, outraged. You should boycott them! That would show 'em.

@Ralizah Yeah exactly. I just don't understand the thinking behind or what they are hoping to achieve.

🤔 Hmmm, all this talk of tribes ... I just realized while playing Horizon Zero Dawn that it’s a metaphor of the console wars. The Nora tribe are the PlayStation fans, the Carja are Nintendo, the Oseram are the PC crowd, and the Banuk are the Xbox gamers.

@Th3solution Ha ha good point - I'd probably put the Banuk as Nintendo owners, a strange but proud tribe, small in number but ferocious in trolling.

@DerMeister Yep - as said, who cares if someone disagrees with you. I think TLOU is a masterpiece, you don't. Guess what, I don't care, you gave it a try and you can't say fairer than that.

@mookysam I know - I personally blame Nintendo for not creating all the games I like. They know full well that I buy Nintendo for Metroid games and they did not, I repeat NOT, release Metroid Prime 4 on my birthday as requested.

I see that kind of corporate tribalism everywhere nowadays. People worry about Adidas vs. Nike, whether Drake or Minaj has the top spot in the charts and et cetera or if DC movies or Marvel are selling better.

People get so worked up over charts and awards, that you'd be forgiven for thinking these people have stock in these corporations, but they don't.

It's strange to me when people feel more connected to a brand than actual persons.

It is something that's been on my mind recently, moreso even than during the big console wars of yesteryear. Also, I find it personally hard to escape from myself as well. When someone starts to talk dirt about the PlayStation brand, I really shouldn't care, because whatever, but I understand how these things work: I use the device every day, so it's hard not to identify myself with it, even if it is a lifeless object.

@Kidfried I must admit, I too feel quite 'connected' with Miss Minaj...

Quoted for being the chilling, unfortunate truth.

I often think about such things a lot, and wonder where humanity would be if it got away from this stat-tracking, chart-watching competitive BS that so dominates all areas of modern life. It's understandable in things where competition is rather the point (cheer for your sports team, for example) but for art and leisure activities, why must there be a layer of pressure, stress and tribalism? Isn't the whole point of leisure to relax, and the whole point of art to be subjective? Or did I miss the "everybody must fight everything all the time" memo?

Then again, we live in the age of the YouTube drama video, where conflict bred for conflict's sake is popular enough to sustain itself. I wonder where all that nonsense will lead this planet.

I've got an altogether less-serious peeve; if you're an open-world game and you wanna put races across parts of your map, clear the gosh-darn streets of traffic, will you?!

Countless times in Mafia III, I was ahead in a street race only for some NPC idiot to drive through one of the large, view-obstructing flashy arrows thrown up purely for my benefit and blindside me. Even without the arrows giving me zero chance to react, however, I know some may argue that it makes simulated street racing more realistic, but I've encountered this in other open-world games before and it's annoying because it turns a test of skill into an exercise in repetitive lucky timing (because you bet the next time you try and take that corner, there won't be a car waiting at the lights, but rather approaching the lights, a few meters further back in exactly the place you're aiming for).

Rage. So much rage.

I hate it when the music changes when you go into a menu. You’re getting into and then it just takes you with different music. Also hate when the music changes when cops start chasing you in a racing game.
I think it’s dumb that you have to cut parts off of a monster when you’re fighting it to get certain parts of it. The tail is sill there when I kill it, just easier in theory to cut off. It’s a pointless grind mechanic and collecting what you want from the tail without killing it because it’s tough to kill or because it’s helpful in fighting should be incentive enough, anything else is pointless filler and bad game design no matter how good the rest of the game is.

Dang any game without a decent save/load system to death. Latest offender: 2064.

I'm fine with manual saving, but please don't make stupid systems. 2064's saving system is beyond stupid, it's like it has been specifically designed so that at one point the player will mess up.

Come on, it's not the 90's anymore. Really inexcusable.

My biggest peeve on any game is controls. If the controls are bad, it's hard for me. Even this last Tomb Raider has had some really poor controls in it where I die because the controls are poor on a jump or a wall climb. I've been mind-warped by soulsborne, so dying doesn't really impact me like it used to but dying because the controls in the game are poor, so really annoying.

@Kidfried Yep I played I Am Setsuna on the Switch the other day. You can only save at any time in the world map or at designated save points. I fought the first boss and died, only saved in the world map before a bunch narrative stuff and about 5 battles which you have to complete before the boss fight. I know have to do that again, which immediately puts me off from playing it again.

@Kidfried I hate auto saves and prefer manual alot more, reason being I know for a fact I saved. Alot of times I don't notice the auto save icon pop up and for whatever I have to stop I always have that dreaded feeling that the next time I load my game it's going to be further back from when I quit or even I will have to start over. I especially hate it when I quit the game and the message "Quitting now will not save any progress you made since you last save. Are you sure you want to quit?" And then it doesn't even give me the option to save. I feel like well do I have a choice.

@Tasuki I agree that how most games have included auto save isn't good either. Personally I have no preference for either auto save or manual save, but as long as it's been applied in a reasonable manner. In 2064 it is not.

But I also remember Everybody's Gone To The Rapture, a game with auto save. I once played a session of about 90 minutes. I made quite some progress and finished a few chapters. I got tired, but couldn't save. I closed the game, thinking I was okay with doing about 5 minutes again. Whatever, I wanted to go to bed.

Next time I boot the game: it didn't save at all apparently. Never touched the game since. That kind of stuff, just like the save system in 2064 is unforgivable in my opinion.

@Kidfried I can sympathise. I'm forever double-checking my game has saved, either by back-tracking to trigger a checkpoint icon or repeatedly triggering a save, such as sitting down at a Base Camp two or three times in the Tomb Raider reboots. Every single time I quit a game, I exit back out to its main menu to ensure that I haven't abandoned anything mid-section, and then I'm fastidious about uploading my save data to my PS Plus account once I've closed the application.

Games which don't make it absolutely clear when they've saved, or which have needlessly-complex save systems, are pure evil. It's like they don't want you to enjoy yourself or complete the game.

@Tasuki @Kidfried I think manual and auto save combinations are the best. That way if you forget your not in deep trouble but your not at the mercy of the game either. Then you have the Souls games. Try moving your pinky finger without it causing it to save in those.