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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 looks like it, they are going for a more classic approach with this series

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"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo They're sort of 50% there with the cast, the optimism and the serialized format, I guess but yet another prequel (with yet more versions of TOS characters) is just not what I'm after. Is this instead of or as well as "Section 31" do you reckon?

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 well it's episodic with serialised character development so kinda like DS9 and Enterprise i would say but as for Section 31 from what i read they have put that on the back burner in order to fast track this new series through so who knows whats going on with that but it wouldn't surprise me if it was cancelled before too long, same with that CG Nickelodeon series

as for being a prequel honestly if it's good then i'm not fused but i would prefer them to go post Nemesis/Picard in the next show but then again with Discovery going to the 32nd century (or there abouts) wouldn't EVERYTHING technically be a prequel

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo I just think "Star Trek: The Generation After Next" would be the best thing for them to do. Set it 100 years or so after "Picard" with an entirely new ship and crew and just go from there. With ANOTHER prequel they are just going to run into all the same issues with canon and continuity and piss off people with the re-re casting and so on. In case you can't tell I'm sick to death of bloody prequels.
PS "Discovery" doesn't count but I suspect it will be replaced by this new show anyway. They can't possibly want 4 or more "Trek" shows running at once. They haven't been able to get one right so far.

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 you're forgetting this is CBS or ViacomCBS now and they love to have multiple shows in the same universe going at once for example they had NCIS, NCIS LA, NCIS New Orleans, Hawaii 5-0, MacGyver, Scorpion and Magnum P.I all on the go at once and they are ALL set in the same universe, they have all even crossed over at some point

so it's not like they can't do it

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo They can do it but that doesn't mean they should. Not even Berman era "Trek" at the height of it's popularity in the Nineties could sustain that many series. They seem to be operating under the misapprehension that "Trek" has the same sort of mainstream popularity as "Star Wars" and it just doesn't. I don't know why I even care any more - it's not as if it will be any good. Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman are involved.

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 i would say it's more akin to the MCU than Star Wars with what VCBS are trying to do

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo Kurtzman has tried to emulate the MCU twice before - in the "Amazing Spider-Man" and Universal's "Dark Universe" and both times it was a humiliating disaster. Third time's a charm and this time he has the bonehead that wrote "Batman and Robin" on his team for good measure.

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 well we can but wait and see i suppose, you never know they might actually crack it this time

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo I really like Anson Mount and the concept of an episodic series more akin to old style "Star Trek" but that's it. Every rational fibre of my being tells me that if it says "Secret Hideout" on it then it will suck and suck big.

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 i try to give any new Trek the benefit of the doubt regardless of who creates it and i'll make my mind up once i have seen the show

in this case they are saying the right things, "Episodic", "Classic Trek"

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo Just how many chances are you willing to give these idiots? I'll be giving it a miss. Hope you enjoy it though.

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 it's Star Trek so i will always be there for the start of a new show or the latest film, Trek is a huge part of my life, it's always been there from birth (my mum even went into labour with me half way through an episode) and it's optimism and hope helped me get through a very bad patch of my life too so yeah i'll be there for any new Trek regardless

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo Fair enough. I love it too so I can't stand watching it being systematically destroyed by halfwits who demonstrably DON'T care about it or even try to understand what made it special.

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 you know the old saying "you need to brave the storm to get through to the calm on the other side"

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo Sure,the storm being Kurtzman and his band of morons. Once they are gone I'll check in to see what the next iteration looks like. Hopefully there's somebody like a Filoni or a Feige or a Seth MacFarlane (somebody who CARES) who can take the reins and get it back on track.

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 well apparently the lady in charge of VicaomCBS is a huge Trek fan and sees it as their flagpole franchise so maybe she can help get it on track (i wouldn't be surprised if this new series was her idea)

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo Possibly so. It's certainly a step in the right direction. I wish I could get past the prequel thing. It's such a terrible idea that has failed twice already.

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FullbringIchigo

@LN78 of course there is also the chance that as Kurtzman's 5 year contract is up soon he might be trying to make himself indispensable so he doesn't get let go

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

LN78

@FullbringIchigo The best thing they could do is give him the boot - I think he is making a new 'Silence of the Lambs' show or something so that might keep him away from 'Trek' for a minute.

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