Topic: Ten Forward - The Star Trek Topic

Going to start watching The Next Generation on Netflix (hope it's still on there) and then the other shows. I haven't seen them in a long time. I particularly enjoyed Voyager. When I was but a boy my Dad was a huge Star Trek fan and would watch them every Wednesday on BBC2. My brother has been really into Star Trek Online and wants me to play it, but it is tricky to find the time.

@mookysam yeah they are still there from TOS through to Discovery even the Animated Series is on there, part of the deal CBS made with Netflix was that Netflix got all the shows

@FullbringIchigo TFF holds no special place for me - other Kirk's question

Yeah, season 2 is all about some sort of search for Spock apparently, but they are due to work in the explanation for the different Klingons (all being from different planets). They have to go somewhere.... so best to kill them really... and blow up the Enterprise in the process... oh wait...

@KALofKRYPTON if it wasn't for the fact they changed the size you could just say the Enterprise was refitted when Kirk took comand

as for the Klingons there are many ways to explain it, part of the curative process of the augment virus for example and as for looking different because they live on different plaents, well that would only work if they actually EVOLVED on those planets not if the colonized them and if they did evolve there they they wouldn't be Klingons, they would be a Klingon like species but not Klingons for example if there was a species on Mars that evolved there they wouldn't be humans even if they looked like us

the whole "they are from different worlds" thing doesn't work for me, it doesn't work for anyone with half a brain cell to be honest

Discovery's inconsistencies CAN be fixed but not they way they are doing it

also

By the way, who is the Best Captain?

@FullbringIchigo

@KALofKRYPTON

This is already my favourite thread

@KALofKRYPTON Aye Laddie

by the way i thought it might be a good idea to share some pictures you can use as wallpapers for your P.C or PS4

here is my current P.C wallpaper

@KALofKRYPTON One thing I love about the starship design evolution over the years is the gradual introduction of gimmicks, both in-universe and as a fan of the shows. First we had the saucer separation of the Enterprise-D, then the cloaking device of the Defiant, then Voyager's variable-geometry nacelles and ability to land. It made going back to the NX-01 really refreshing, and its own unique party trick (the grappler) made total in-universe sense.

@mookysam Hope you enjoy; be sure to come here and let us know what you think as you go (time permitting, of course). I recently rewatched TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise, as well as all four TNG films, with my partner so I'm now enjoying a couple years of "random episodes I fancy every now and again" but it's a heck of a thing to marathon. Here's hoping your fond memories of Voyager hold up, too! It's my favourite show, although TNG is a very close second.

@FullbringIchigo Yeah, I'm gonna say it...

...with Picard and Archer close behind. Sisko is awesome, but a war criminal, sorry. I do love Shatner's Kirk in the films, but in the original series he was a walking parody (with a few exceptions). Pine's Kirk is solid, but lucky, and the reason I quite like Star Trek is because the heroes aren't lucky.

@RogerRoger

@FullbringIchigo After which she turned up in Voyager. Thrice. And it took two Janeways to kill her once and for all. Although that's not to take anything away from First Contact, which is still one heck of a film!

@RogerRoger well at the end of the day she is mainly a computer program so transferring to a new body wouldn't be a problem, i'm sure she had a few spares

might explain why she looked different the first time she showed up ( i know IRL it was a different actress)

@FullbringIchigo I've given up trying to understand the Borg Queen. She dies at the end of "Dark Frontier" as well, when her diamond smashes into the collapsed transwarp conduit, but is back looking exactly like Susanna Thompson for "Unimatrix Zero". I just think you can't keep a good ratings-winning villain down!

As great as Susanna Thompson was, it was lovely to have Alice Krige back in "Endgame". I'm always amazed at the quality of her scenes, given that they were all filmed in a single day.

@RogerRoger well she is a great actress lets be honest, she gave me chills watching First Contact for the first time

@FullbringIchigo Even in a heavy rubber suit with hair pulled back by wires and metal contact lenses so painful, she could only wear them for five-to-six minutes per take.

Whenever people bash the alien actors in Star Trek, I defend them to the hilt. It's one thing turning up, chucking on a jumpsuit and reading Treknobabble at a blank viewscreen, but folks like Michael Dorn (Worf), Rene Auberjonois (Odo), Armin Shimmerman (Quark), Roxann Dawson (B'Elanna Torres), Ethan Phillips (Neelix) and John Billingsley (Phlox) had to do the same after three or four hours of heavy make-up, and got to go home an hour later than everybody else. The amount of time you just see Worf in the background of an entire scene, just so that he can say "Aye, Captain!" as Patrick Stewart walks off at the end... nothing but respect, and none of the above ever gave anything other than great performances. For all 26 episodes of a standard season; none of this modern short season nonsense.

I rank Alice Krige along with Marc Alaimo (Dukat) and F. Murray Abraham (Ru'afo) as one of the truly incredible villain performances of all time, and all were subjected to some of the most taxing, complex and uncomfortable make-up ever created.

@RogerRoger Dukat was an amazing villain

@FullbringIchigo @RogerRoger In total agreement!

Also a shout out to Casey Biggs' Damar who so very successfully traversed the background to foreground character arc with aplomb!

@KALofKRYPTON DS9 had quite a few good villains, Dukat, Damar, Weyoun

in fact pretty much every DS9 character was well written and well acted apart from Winn, good actress but not a very good character