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PunkRx_Lockly

@Th3solution Shocking, right? A lot of people really hate it, but it had so much going for it amidst all the technical problems. Truly an underrated title. And I still don't get why so many people hated Arno ! He wasn't bad I thought... 😞

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FullbringIchigo

@Th3solution @PunkRx_Lockly i love Unity and i really enjoyed Syndicate too plus that game at least did the whole Character choice thing and didn't break the lore in order to do it

sadly though i don't think Ubisoft will change it back because they would get destroyed by the critics for it, i think it's sad that in this day and age companies don't look at sales numbers or fan response anymore and instead rely on metacritic sites to gauge what they should do with their games, all they try to do is please critics which leads to games like AC losing it's identity and getting lost in the great grey blob of generic open world games because "that's whats trending right now"

game critics are probably the 2nd most useless job in existence right after wine critics, and the 3rd are film critics

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Kidfried

@FullbringIchigo They looked at sales instead of critics.

That's why they switched from Syndicate, that was the first AC to sell slower, to Origins, which is more like single player games that sell better (Witcher, etc).

Kidfried

Kidfried

@Kidfried I mean, it's pretty clear from Ubisoft's strategy, how much they put money first. And to achieve that they try to listen to fans, their consumers.

That doesn't nessecarily result in good games of course, but it is why Ubisoft is doing so good commercially.

Also, I dont think Assassin's Creed is ever going back. But it is a series that changes. Compare 1 with 2, with Black Flag, with Unity, with Origins. So, I'd rather think that, as soon as Ubisoft notices fans don't like this direction, they would switch to something else entirely again.

Gong back doesn't make sense. AC1 is and always was a bad game, AC2 is not impressive anymore compared to Horizon or whatever open world game nowadays.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Kidfried Your tagging yourself?! 😂

But I agree, it makes no sense for Ubi to go back to the old style of games now just to appease the relatively few that want them back.

Origins was the refresh the series needed, before then they were getting a bit stale.

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FullbringIchigo

@Kidfried oh don't get me wrong the series was getting stale and it did need a refresh but even if the sales for Syndicate were lower than the others it still sold well but when you start to take notice of the critics and critic sites over the actual fans of the franchise it just causes issues

now i have said many times before the latest few AC games are damn good RPG's and lots of fun BUT they are BAD Assassin'S Creed games even if you look on sites like Metacritic AC2 is still rated higher than the others and Black Flag is about the same as Origins and Odyssey so all those changes, cahsing games like Witcher 3 and they still only get scores on par with the older games

the thing is though how many films have you seen or games have you played that were critically panned but were actually really good but because critics didn't like them they never got sequels

take for example i'm a Star Trek fan and if critic scores were to be believed Discovery is the best series the franchise has ever had and yet if you look at the actual fan response it's pretty much fallen flat on it's face (personally i'm not too taken with it but i see potential) and at the end of the day it's the fans that keeps something going, not the critics and not the reviewers so it's the fans they should be listening to not some number on a website

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

Kidfried

@FullbringIchigo I tend not to care about metacritic at all. I mean, how a game is scored over there is all the result of what outlets are participating.

For instance, game score differences between Xbox games and Nintendo games are super skewed because there are Nintendo fansites that also put in reviews, whereas hardly any for MS. And that influences grades and such.

Also, with Kotaku, Polygon and Eurogamer not scoring games any more, that has also wildly changed averages for new games.

Anyway, I don't think fan response is more important than game journalists anyway. A lot of games that try to listen to fans actually fail, because gamers often really don't know what they really want - especially the online fans.

Kidfried

FullbringIchigo

@Kidfried oh that's also true but there has to be some kind of balance to be found somewhere

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Th3solution

Posing the question / comment here so as not to derail the other thread —
I recently started Assassins Creed Origins and so far am finding it hard to get into the narrative part. I feel like the story is lacking in any depth or meaning. The game doesn’t do much to explain the motivations or setting of the action at all in the early hours.
Just wondering how long it takes to hit any stride as to what’s going or is it just 80 hours of wandering around killing people for no reason? 😅

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JohnnyShoulder

@Th3solution The first town or city if go to is only the prologue I believe, the game starts proper when you get to the next main city. I was in the first place for ages wondering if I was missing something.

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Th3solution

@JohnnyShoulder Ah.. that makes a little sense now. I’ll try to rush through the opening town a little quicker. I thought that tomb / big underground treasure room area was the prologue, and it was just so bland and did not help me learn the mechanics at all. I ran around in circles for an hour trying to find the stupid exit.
I could have really used a little more direction in the opening hours.

@Arugula I toyed with playing Odyssey instead, and I still want to play that, but I thought that Odyssey built on the combat mechanics of Origins and so I didn’t want to skip Origins. Not to mention that I have heard glowing reviews of both and Origins is supposedly much shorter, which is attractive to me.

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Th3solution

@Arugula I’m in Siwa, doing random fetch quests, hunting, flying my eagle around, killing people that NPC’s tell me to kill. I’m trying out different weapons that I loot off of corpses, practicing using a shield (a new element of AC for me), and wondering why there is no jump button. I’m using animus scan function over and over hoping that it will actually direct me in some meaningful way rather than just be the hamstrung item locator and of limited value that it is.
On the plus side, the swimming is pretty good. Much better than The Witcher 3’s swimming.
Speaking of, even the stiff, stone-faced, passionless, gravel-voiced Geralt is Mr. Personality compared to the drab, banal, and leaden Bayek. Hopefully his charm and appeal come out later on.

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demiraali

I'm at level 38 and I can not take pleasure compared to other Assassin's Creed, I can not see an Assassin's Creed, I find it repetitive and boring.
This is the first time I'm disappointed by an Assassin's Creed and I'm really sorry about it. I did it all and I always had a lot of fun.

demiraali

Th3solution

I was a little hesitant to, but I tried my hand at more AC Origins today. I’m having a much better time now. I wanted to give it one more chance to really excite me before I decided to cast it aside and go buy Death Stranding or Jedi Fallen Order. For now, I’m content to keep seeing what Origins has to offer.
Finally I think I’m understanding the world and it’s arrangements. I’m feeling more comfortable with the movesets and the menus. I think Bayek is still pretty boring as a character so far, but the open world has become an addictive environment to explore and the craving for leveling up and learning new skills and acquiring new loot is catching. The map doesn’t seems as overwhelming anymore, although I’m still just running around in Siwa at level 6. But at least now I know I’m not going to abandon the game yet.

I absolutely love the eagle Senu. I mentioned before that she functions like a buddy from MGSV. The great thing about her is that you can control her when you’re scouting the area or encampment and mark your enemies and it helps to create a strategy for how to approach stealthily, if you want. I also already spent the level up skill on the one that grants her the ability to attack and distract enemies. She’s already helped me during some hunting and can take down small game on her own sometimes. Freakin’ awesome.
I will comment that I can’t understand why the controls for Senu are inverted. It’s pretty annoying. And I can’t find anything in the options to change it. All the other controls for camera and aiming are normal and can be modified to invert, but for controlling Senu, pushing down on the stick makes her ascend, pushing up makes her descend. It’s completely disorienting everytime I switch to her.

After I finished Spider-Man I mentioned that the game stirred a hunger in me for another good open world icon chasing collectathon game to sink my teeth into and this fits the bill.

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R1spam

Hi folks, just wanted to ask for a recommendation between origins and odessey for this black Friday? I'm not sure I'd manage two spralling similar ubisoft open worlders! I was drawn to odessey (love ancient greece setting) but my mate who has played all the ACs told me origins is a much more cohesive game with better story and that odessey was decent but felt like too much was tacked on. Any thoughts? I loved witcher 3, bloodborne, HZD and I enjoyed shadow of mordor. The only other AC game I played after the first one was syndicate and I actually stopped playing after a couple of hours as every action being mapped to circle did my head in!!

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ApostateMage

@R1spam I'd go with AC Odyssey. For me it has one of the best protagonists I've played in quite a while (Kassandra) and although the story isn't the best, some of the side quests are pretty good. The biggest praise I can give the game is that it reminded me of The Witcher 3 a lot. The map of the ancient Greek Isles is massive and at times absolutely gorgeous. If you love that setting then it's a must. Honestly, the first time I arrived in Athens I was blown away and just walked around the city taking in the sights and sounds.
I enjoyed Origins but I thought Odyssey was miles better.

ApostateMage

Th3solution

@R1spam I had the same dilemma as you and I opted to go with Origins. I’m about 15 hours into and am really loving it. It’s a more manageable open world than Witcher 3, imo, although it is still enormous with plenty to do. It doesn’t have the quality of side quests that W3 has, most I’ve encountered so far are simple fetch, assassinate, or clear-a-camp quests. But it has a really good balance of just enough map markers and question marks to chase down without becoming too terribly overwhelming like W3 did for me.

I do hear plenty of debate of Origins vs Odyssey on which is better and they both have their fans. I think in general most people do like Odyssey more, but it sort of built upon the combat and systems of Origins, so I decided to try Origins first. It seemed like a reasonable stepping stone. I plan to play both and thought that Origins would feel like a step backward after Odyssey, but I don’t know. And now after playing just a few hours I can’t wait to see what Odyssey is like because the Ancient Greece setting is more appealing. I’ve found Egypt has become more fascinating to me now, however.

So I think if you plan to play just one then Odyssey is probably the way to go, but if you have any thoughts of doing both then I would say Origins would probably be a better game to start with.

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R1spam

@Th3solution @Apostatemage thanks for your replies, odyssey it is then! I am so into the ancient greece setting and the mythology elements appealed to me (huge fan of Jason and the argonauts, clash of the titans etc). Time for some bargain hunting!!

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Th3solution

@R1spam Yeah, let us know how you fare. I’m curious how you’ll like it since you haven’t really been into AC at all. And I’ll keep posting my Origins thoughts. Ubisoft has done some really impressive work with these.

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