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Kidfried

@colonelkilgore Colin has some great points, but he'll alternate these with terrible points. He says a smart thing one moment, and a minute later says something that's... incredibly dumb.

One moment he's on a high horse against 'cancel culture', the next moment (this podcast) he'll say that he thinks that people that don't adhere to his journalistic standards should not get a job anywhere anymore.

Also in this podcast he says how homogenous games media is, which is a point you can make, than goes on to say how different politically the hosts of Sacred Symbols are, when both are pretty conservative, pro-guns, make transphobic comments, etc.

He'll criticise games media for being homogenous, than state that his podcast is different from IGN's, than state that his podcast is bigger than IGN. I mean... if you are the bigger podcast of the two, you can't take the position of 'the little guy ' or 'the outsider' anymore. It's like Trump saying "drain the swamp". You can't pretend to be an outsider, when you are the most powerful man of the USA.

And also, didn't he himself LEAVE IGN? And now he's acting all 'if I was still at IGN everything would be better'. Like.... UGH. Didn't he himself grow out to be this big BECAUSE of the platform IGN gave him. He was there in a time that the company was way bigger and there was less competition, so it was way easier to gain the amount of followers he has, versus now.

He will make these kind of stupid contradictions so often, that I just have a hard time listening to him. Between the lines I'm sure he'll say some interesting stuff, he often does (which is why I listened to a lot of his podcasts in the past), but I have a hard stime swallowing all the crap.

(Obviously, I say a lot of stupid and dumb things myself all the time, and if people as a result skip over my posts as a result, I'd understand that. Just as I'm skipping over Colin.)

Kidfried

colonelkilgore

@Kidfried I actually don't think he contradicts himself... at least not in the stuff I've listened to. Don't get me wrong, you're totally entitled to feel the way that you do and skip him etc. but of the things you mention I think you're looking at it very Black and white. I'm not particularly a huge fan of Moriarty... I initially despised him but the more I hear, he is growing on me... but as with all media/journalism etc it is incredibly important to have different voices an viewpoints... and I'm inclined to agree with him that almost everything news related (games or otherwise) has become somewhat of an echo chamber in the last 5 to 10 years.

Anyway, I just particularly enjoyed this podcast... and as I mentioned in my previous post, I listen to a lot of gaming related content. This one just seemed very refreshing to me at least.

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Kidfried

Also, I must say how I hate how he's acting for being special in the media landscape for covering PlayStation, but also being critical of them.

First of all, because I see the amount of crap Sammy and co get everytime they are critical of PlayStation topics. So, it's kind of rude for acting special.

Second of all, he singles out Kotaku. Yes, I agree there are definitely issues with Kotaku, but you cannot argue that they are very different from other games media.I visited their frontpage today, and saw this article featured: https://kotaku.com/playstation-is-hard-to-work-with-devs-say-... Certainly it's more of a scoop on PlayStation than he ever had.

Kidfried

Kidfried

@colonelkilgore Just tell me how he's not contradicting himself with the kind of comments he makes.

I already said he raises valid points. And I also said he alternates between solid points and nonsense. Mostly his nonsense is patting himself on the back how much better than other people he is.

Kidfried

colonelkilgore

@Kidfried okay I get it... you really dislike Moriarty. As I mentioned, I really didn't take to him initially either. I felt that (& still do somewhat) that he had a very high opinion of himself and I personally found it very off putting. Having listened to him some more though, I think that what I initially found as a high opinion of himself, is more an entrenched stance brought about from the multitudinal attacks (some justified and some not) that he has faced over the years.

Look, either way... I have no inclination to defend Moriarty all day, you've clearly made up your mind on the guy and more power to you. All I would say is encourage others to make up their own minds rather than taint people with movements they want nor have no attachment too. Only last week you tried to pigeon hole me with people issuing death threats to Druckman... all because of an initial comprehension issue you had reading a post of mine. Moriarty has gone to great lengths to distance himself from Trump, he made a stance against him even before he was announced leader of the Republicans, let alone of the 'free world'. Just because he is centre-right in his views doesn't mean he doesn't have points worthy of listening to. As long as someone is not just spouting hate, everyone's opinions should be at least listened to... not just thrown out due to preconceptions. My politics lecturer would always point out that we should never throw the baby out with the bathwater. We all used to groan with each and every time that she trotted it out. As I get older though, it becomes more and more prescient.

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Kidfried

@colonelkilgore I listened to him from his podcast Beyond days. So it's not like I don't know who he is, or where he's coming from. I often disagreed with him also in the past, but he was less dismissive of others back then. I think it's funny that you call me dismissive of him, but accept him being dismissive of IGN and Kotaku.. and pretty much anyone he namedrops. Like I said, Kotaku has a lot of interesting scoops, about PlayStation too, and a lot of independent high quality journalism, but you are alright with him being dismissive about them in this interview.

Also, I don't care what his opinion is on politics, Trumps or whatever. As long as he has a great perspective on games or the media. And his opinion on games are often interesting, like I already stated. It's a reason why I have listened to him a lot in the past.

His perspectives on games media and industry is just... often not that, because of how inconsistent or wrong he often is. Like I said, claiming that he has a way more unique staff on his podcast than other podcasts, that's just not true. His statement that he is more critical of PlayStation than other media, it's just not true, and I already showed you Push Square as an example.

I didn't bring up his politics. He did, and you did. I just stated he was wrong. And now I state that you are wrong for saying my opinion of him is related to his political opinion. It's not.

And now you have made a comprehension issue on my post. Because I never stated anywhere that he was pro-Trump. Just saying that he did something that Trump did as well, as an example to counter his point.

Kidfried

Kidfried

Anyway, I like reason. Just show me, reasonably how I am wrong for saying his point doesn't make sense. Please tell me how his argument is structured. Please tell me how Push Square is an echo chamber, and Colin is very different. Please also show me that Push Square and Kotaku are very similar, and how Colin has a perspective that they don't have. Please tell me how Push Square is a fanboyish site, whereas Colin totally isn't.

I know you say you don't want to defend him, but you're saying that I'm wrong, while you're not explaining how I'm wrong.

Kidfried

colonelkilgore

@Kidfried Well that makes a lot of sense... as you do seem to misinterpret a lot of what is being communicated. That could well come down to subtext, which is only evident to people who speak a particular language predominantly and for an extended period of time.

So to be frank (to speak on the face of it without the requirement of the reader to read between the lines at all):

1. I never said you were wrong. I said it was your opinion... and that my opinion is different.

2. The reason I posited this podcast as something that could be interesting to Push Square forum users was for the content relating to the future of this gen (& possibly those thereafter) and how Microsoft's and Sony's usp's are so divergent... and how that could inform where things will ultimately go (I actually mention this in my original post). I personally had no interest in Colin's biographical info at the start of the podcast... and therefore made no mention of it in my original recommendation.

3. I think the people issuing death threats to Neil Druckman are idiots!

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Kidfried

@colonelkilgore Sorry, but I think your comment with regards to language is disrespectful. Someone not having English as a first language, doesn't mean anything. I know people that are better at multiple languages, than I am at one. It's completely irrelevant and I really don't care to have a conversation with someone who will misinterpret me, but will blame any miscommunication on me not speaking the language well enough.

"I never said you were wrong. I said it was your opinion... and that my opinion is different."
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