@colonelkilgore I had more fun watching that clip than I did watching the 3 hour A-Team movie 😅. It's not a terrible film but it's way too long for what it is!
@RogerRoger according to the comments, Mac and Crowd are the actual dogs that did the mocap for D-Dog as well!
@ralphdibny Scarily enough, despite never being signed in to YouTube, I still get recommendations pop up based on things I've been looking at. Thanks to that video you embedded, I just saw this...
...which should come with a spoiler warning for MGS3, but is otherwise very nice work!
"We want different things, Crosshair. That doesn't mean that we have to be enemies."
@RogerRoger brilliant vid! I totally forgot that Chris Cornell did a bond song 😥. I tend to prefer the rockier bond songs like that, the Jack White one and Paul McCartney and the wings. I do have a special place in my heart for Goldfinger brrp brrrrrrp brrrp (trumpet noises) though 😅 and to be fair I probably haven't heard every single bond song lol.
I spent some of the afternoon reading up about Chris Cornell after that. I was mainly a fan of audioslave as a byproduct of being a big Rage fan. But yeah, so sad =(
Also I forgot how good The Boss looks in olive drab 😅
@ralphdibny I think the Alicia Keys and Jack White song is amazing. But I also really love the Radiohead and Billie Eilish one. The Sam Smith one was terrible, and the Adele one was alright for an Adele song.
@Kidfried I am super confused because I didn't realise radiohead did a bond song! Did they make it for the film but it just didn't get used as the main song? I found a song called Spectre and listened. Sounds really good but I think it would be better out of a proper sound system instead of just my phone, as Radiohead normally is!
Also I'm a big fan of that Bond-y Muse song and Muse in general. Not sure if it was in the running but didn't get picked or what but it would have been awesome over a title sequence!
Perhaps embarrassingly, I didn't actually know who Billie Eilish was until a few weeks ago when some friends were like "You don't know who Billie Eilish is?!?!" 😅. To be fair, I still don't know even though they played me a song I didn't recognise lol. I guess I'll find out when I see the latest Bond film
I forgot to mention and this is to @RogerRoger as well but Psychonauts in the Rhombus of Ruin (the VR game) has a bond-esque song for its titles which is pretty good. Not on par with Snake Eater which is one of my favourite songs in a game ever but still a good listen!
@ralphdibny The Spectre song was rejected, and Radiohead was pretty bitter about it. So it's not really a Bond song, but it was written for it, so that counts for me. I love the Radiohead song as a Bond
I'm a big fan of Eilish. I really like the production of her songs, but the main attraction for me is her unique voice. I don't even know if it's a unique voice per se, but within mainstream music it is. I'd recognise that voice everywhere. At some point you'll start recognising it too, there's no escaping her.
@Kidfried haha I'm sure I will but I have a cd player in my car now so pop music from the radio is not infecting my mind as much. I have got into some weird artists over the last few years because of the radio 😂. But I do think I have a predisposition toward pop/mainstream in some ways anyway from when I was a kid but nowadays it's only the truly great pop artists that stand out to me. Obviously peoples opinions of who I consider truly great is going to vary 😅.
I'll save that Billie Eilish song for when I watch the film though, I tend to prefer going in blind to these things so I can just enjoy it for what it is if you know what I mean. Just no expectations whatsoever.
That Radiohead song is probably a bit esoteric for Bond but having said that, a lot of them differ quite a lot. Chris Cornell's voice doesn't really suit a Bond film but it works brilliantly in Casino Royale. Now I've looked a few up, they did choose that blimmin' Madonna song for Die Another Day which is probably a way weirder choice than Radiohead would have been, if not for different reasons!
It's a shame they were bitter about losing out, Radiohead never really struck me as a band that would care about that sort of thing but then again, Bond is kind of an institution for that generation of people, especially in Britain. Also especially when you have had some of the greats of rock'n'roll record tracks in the past. I know Johnny Greenwood has dabbled in film scores too like There Will Be Blood. Well, at least they have another great song to add to their already amazing catalogue!
@ralphdibny Bitter might be the right word, but from interviews and such it was clear they were really proud of the song and sad it didn't work out. The song is ondeed as you say a bit more esoteric, but I think the strength of Bond songs is that they have conveyed many a mood.
@ralphdibny I'm sorry to say that, thanks to my exceedingly narrow musical tastes, the entirety of the above conversation has gone completely over my head. I'm just happy when a Bond song doesn't make me wanna surgically remove my ears after I'm forced to endure it in the cinema (because I usually fast-forward the opening title sequences when watching Bond at home). Can't believe I ended up going to see SPECTRE twice, knowing full well what was coming in the first ten minutes. Yeesh.
"You Know My Name" isn't the worst offender, although I did notice that the version used in the video above was the single release, and not the movie version (which dials up the orchestral parts of the backing to balance, and occasionally drown out, the band's instruments).
One of the few bits of Bond song trivia I do know, however, is that Daniel Craig is a huge Radiohead fan, and encouraged them to submit a song for consideration. That might explain why they were a bit miffed when they weren't chosen, as they must've felt like a bit of a shoe-in with Bond's own backing. It's clear that the producers were looking for a certain type of nails-on-a-chalkboard sound, though, as Sam Smith's cat-strangling sounds pretty indistinguishable from Thom Yorke's nasal whining. It's all just a bunch of falsetto white noise, devoid of meaning or identity beyond that of a bleak, morose dirge.
Sorry. I have some opinions that I politely contain, and others... well, yeah. No offence intended; not to the artists who are clearly talented, nor to their fans.
And I must say, I have been digging the Bondian elements scattered throughout Psychonauts, so it's no surprise to hear that the VR spin-off got its own Bond song! Although the specific tone and oddball humour is leaning it more towards an Austin Powers, parody-of-a-parody vibe.
"We want different things, Crosshair. That doesn't mean that we have to be enemies."
@Kidfried I made it through Sasha Nein's combat training yesterday. He's been making me laugh a heck of a lot, so I hope he sticks around!
And big respect for the effect Thom Yorke has on you. Despite our difference of opinion, I can totally understand where you're coming from, as I often have a similar reaction to certain musical themes and motifs in the things I love. I apologise for adding to the widespread negativity you encounter towards him. My stance isn't helped by the fact that my university flatmates listened to Radiohead (and similar) at full blast, even moreso when they realised I wasn't keen, so I'm clearly carrying some baggage!
"We want different things, Crosshair. That doesn't mean that we have to be enemies."
@RogerRoger haha no worries, Radiohead is a hard sell for anyone! I mainly got into them when they released their free (or pay what it's worth) In Rainbows album which I absolutely loved! Naturally I went back and bought their back catalogue and really got into them in my late teens/early 20s. I saw them live in like 2007/08 too and it was awesome.
I don't think I realised how many hit singles were theres too until I'd heard all their albums. Stuff like Creep and another one that Jamie Cullum covered on his album Pointless Nostalgic. I actually forget the name now because I'm pretty tired (early start today)
Were you my housemate at uni by any chance?! 😂 I was such a knob at uni with my music. I just loved certain stuff and would play it over and over again. I'm pretty sure my housemates hated Plan B by the end, especially as that particular CD seems to have gone missing from my collection 🤔😂.
Same here with regards to Radiohead in general. There's certain music I just can't listen to as much anymore because it sends me to a dark place, stuff like Radiohead, Elliott Smith, Jeff Buckley etc. I'd love to listen to them more now seeing as they were my favourites in my early twenties but at the same time, I actually want to not be super depressed all the time.
@ralphdibny I can safely say that no, you weren't my university flatmate, nor was I yours. It's a small world to be sure, but not that small! And hey, as much as they could be inconsiderate (or deliberately antagonistic) with their music, I can't have been easy to live with, what with my own various obsessions and general apathy towards being social.
I do remember the whole "pay what you think it's worth" thing surrounding one of Radiohead's albums, which was kinda cool of them. There are a lot of bands and artists who I think I'd quite like, in terms of ethos and whatnot; my problem is that I just can't stand singing.
Although, just to bring the conversation back on-topic, "Quiet's Theme" from MGSV: The Phantom Pain is one of the few vocal songs I actually enjoy listening to.
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