Topic: Dreams -OT-

@JohnnyShoulder the VR hasn't been implemented yet has it?

I will get my psvr out and give it a go. I'm unsure how psvr will make music production easier but it can't be any harder than controlling an imp with the ps4 pad.

Much better go at dreams this evening. I made an absolutely terrible mix of zeldas dungeon tune from the Nes. One thing it did do was help me work out more of the features and there's some great stuff going on under the hood. I worked out how to desensitise the piano roll too so you can layout a basic template for a song easier using either 1/4 or 1/8 as the snap to guide rather than 1/16 it defaulted to, which in turn made the imps sensitivity less of an issue. Dreams is missing a mass copy and paste feature I think, unless I am using the Clone facility wrong. You can copy 1 block of music at a time - this can't be right. I like dragging whole sections of songs around on my PC.

It also occurred to me that dreams is a better facility when you have a clear idea of what you aim to make. Where as with Reason, fruity loops or cubase you can mess around and some inspiration will hit you. In dreams the interface is good enough to make any song really - it's just a lot slower to use and compromised due to the control scheme. So you need to have a plan in place of what you want to make. Which as a game making tool is the whole point.

@themcnoisy Ah I don't know really, but I seem to remember a preview or review mentioning that is was easier to control in VR.

@Quintumply @AdamNovice @Simon_Fitzgerald @Kyroki Alright lads. As you all own the game I was wondering how you can start a project together?

Not that I want to start a project yet - more the fact I would like to know how to share things amongst each other without releasing anything to the public.

@themcnoisy There is a way to do it — when you're creating something, press Options and click Save Version. Then choose 'Save this version online as PRIVATE'. This lets other people access and edit it, but it isn't released publicly.

@Quintumply @AdamNovice @Simon_Fitzgerald @Kyroki @themcnoisy I actually don't own Dreams, I played the closed beta for it but never picked up the full game. Sounds like a fun idea doing a joint project, could turn out a bit messy with Kyroki in the lineup though XD

@Quintumply got you. I did that yesterday. I wanted to send it over to show you how badly I had done.

@themcnoisy I'll try and find it later!

@Quintumply it's dead weird dreams. I know its a pre release build but almost everything is hard work! I want to send you this tune as an example - and I can't send it to you. Anyway I have released the song called dungeon dreams. It's crap. But feel free to give it a listen.

Does anyone have any tips for making the camera easier to control when stamping? I'm using line guides but its still a nightmare tbh.

@Octane @Kidfried how are you getting on with your game ideas lads?

@JohnnyShoulder I know what you meant in your previous comment now. The move sticks can be used to sculpt and it's easier* but the VR is yet to be implemented - but when it does 3d modelling will be miles easier.

*Looking at the tutorials at least

@themcnoisy Terrible. I've managed to place the cones, but that's about it.

The tutorials are very good and easy to understand. Doing stuff from scratch is very hard I find.

@Octane I'm struggling to place stuff accurately. Spending more time dealing with the camera and lack of accuracy.

Even making music copying blocks is way harder than it should be. For every block I'm trying to copy I'm spending 40 seconds adjusting it to fit it in. Then having to do it all again lol.

@themcnoisy You can add grid lines when building stuff, that helps a lot. Any object snaps to the grid automatically.

Are you using Move controllers or a DS4?

Noisy couldn’t get a headshot in Destiny with autoaim so I’m not surprised he’s struggling with this

@Octane DS4. I do have move controllers though.

@kyleforrester87 Uncalled for Kyle. I saved you more times than you can count (about 4 times).

@themcnoisy Bloody slander I tell yer, you should sue Kyle for the full amount you did save him jk

@themcnoisy in your dreams!!

@AdamNovice If I got £1 for every time I assisted @kyleforrester87 I would have at least £4 by now.

Don't know why but tonight I started making a deck of cards. I wanted to do it all in sculpts so have kinda made Ace to 4 in all 4 suits. I have individual sculpts for the 4 corners of the card base, the number and the suit icons - now I'm at 84% memory usage!!! Omg. I still have loads of cards to make! So as an experiment I'm going to group the sculpts up into individual cards and hopefully that will save me some memory. I think I will trial that the next chance I get.

I honestly can't see myself playing many more games this year. There's pretty much endless possibilities with this thing.