@Sanquine Aye, it is. Still think that it's a Vita game though.

@get2sammyb Maybe, hopefully, I am wrong and this was a stroke of genius but I just don't think it's a good enough lasting reminder.

@get2sammyb Hmm. Something along the line of game footage, maybe an exclusive game. Perhaps reveal the actual box, not a blury video. Or a 'Sony Direct,' something to get lasting remembrance rather than be used for fish and chips tomorrow. Regardless whether tomorrow's reveal is outstanding, meh or pathetic, it will be a spectacle and remembered, it's what Microsoft are good at. I just personally feel Sony needed to either show something jaw dropping or not at all.

@get2sammyb Much, much more could have been done though. I just think if it was the PS4 reveal tomorrow and I worked in PR and came up with that idea for Microsoft or Nintendo I would be laughed out of the office. Yes, it is trending on Twitter but amongst PlayStation owners and will be forgotten by nightfall. For me it just reeks of "we've got nothing but need something." Hopefully I'm wrong and its somehow a masterpiece but there's more chance of me pulling Scarlett Johansson tonight.

@ViciousDS That would actually be amazing. Would get them in huge trouble but would be something worthy of attention. Shame it would never happen. A thirty second blury look at a box isn't hype, it's a five to five on a Friday idea.

Wow. Hype stolen? No. Not at all. Of all the things Sony could have done to steal thunder away from tomorrow's Xbox reveal this was so low down they didn't even feel the need to write it down on the list. Staggeringly pathetic. Two steps forward, two steps back.

@Gamer83 They have adverts on quite a bit but they're bland and boring. But when they do try to do something different they put it on so much that people hate them rather quickly. Problem Microsoft has is everything they touch at the moment is going to poop and no adverts (flashy or bland) work for them. Surface has failed. Badly. And Windows 8 is a disaster. I am 100% convinced they will end up forth in the "war" this time. Nintendo third, Sony second and, sadly, mobile phones first.

True, I was just meaning the hype was purely aimed at Sony gamers. They need to do a LOT more after E3 to get it noticed by casual and non gamers. My Dad, for example, knows of "The Play Station" but had no idea there is more than one. Now I know a 65 year old isn't really a target market but he watches the news a lot - as he writes quizzes - yet he had no idea it was more than one machine. PlayStation needs to be the buzz word like it was back in 1996 (I think) to really build up hype. Anybody remember the original Orange adverts in the UK? Everybody in the country knew what it was, who they were and what it did. That sort of buzz is what needs to happen so that everybody knows a new PlayStation is here. The pre reveal buzz was a start but much more needs to be done. Anyway, sod games - it's Eurovision time! (who doesn't love a bit of cheese?)

I don't agree. It did an exceptional job in building up hype with PlayStation owners but my friends who have a Wii U, Xbox or aren't interested in gaming only knew of the PS4 before the reveal thanks to me. When Apple unveil a new product it's on the news - BBC, CNN, etc - around the world. This was on pro-Sony sites and videogame sites. Sony need to do much better. As do Nintendo and Microsoft.

@Gamer83 Once again your using your own blinkered view rather than looking at the bigger picture. Sony has NO games to make causal gamers adopt. The games that will make them are COD, FIFA, Madden and Assassin's Creed. Those four titles are coming out on this gen machines as well as next gen ones and causal gamers will buy them for the machines they currently own. The same thing will happen next year as BOTH next gen machines will stutter as casuals won't adopt and then the big four will launch for both gens again. Throughout the year both the PS4 and 720 will be steadily picking up sales but until they hit good enough numbers those four games will NOT go next gen only. Until they do the causal gamers won't.

Your view that hardcore gamers will adopt the 720 is also odd. How many hardcore gamers actually have a 360? They mainly have a PS3 and/or Wii. 360 has succeeded thanks to FPS fans alone and that is what 720 will play for once more.

You need to stop looking at this as what you think is going on and look at it from a business point of view and it makes excellent sense. Brand new shiny console for the early adopters with "better" (visually anyway) versions of games that will entice some casuals while the PS3 gets loads of sales thanks to the big four but all the while sales are picking up convincing developers to switch to PS4. While this happens 720 will struggle even more than the Wii U as Microsoft WON'T be supporting their only machine that will still be picking up good sales, the 360. You may not like it - and can complain all you like - buy business-wise it is the right way to go and makes complete sense. Won't bother explaining this again as been doing it for almost four months now and some people (not having a go at you!) just don't want to see sense, preparing to whine about how they don't think it's right so no-one does.

At last years Nintendo E3 conference they showed nothing (or very little) of the 3DS as they were doing a special conference/Nintendo Direct focusing solely on their handheld. Sony should do the same. Quick montage video at the conference then have a special Vita-only one.

On a completely unrelated topic: Daft Punk's 'Random Access Memories' is ****ing sensational.

@Gamer83 You're being incredibly short sighted. PS4 won't sell to ANYONE other than the hardcore in the first year to two so what they are doing supporting PS3 is excellent from a business point of view. If Microsoft don't do the same they will be in a bigger mess than the Wii U is. Bottomline is there is no first party franchise that will be good enough to convince casual gamers to adopt to the new console. Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Sly, etc are all great games (well, maybe not GT in my eyes) but they're no COD, FIFA, Assassin's Creed or even Mario Kart or GTA, sales-wise. Until those games go exclusively next gen (bar MK, natch) then casuals will have no need to buy a PS4/720. You may be getting a PS4 day one but Joe Public won't. EA, Ubisoft and Activision know their biggest games will sell best on current gen machines this year and next so will release them for both gens, anything they make on PS4/720 will be a bonus to them. You may not like Sony's plan but it is the BEST plan they could have, like it or lump it.

After watching the whole trailer I think it's pretty clear its a Vita title. The graphics, although good, aren't PS3 level. Also think it has the hands of Project Siren (the Studio Japan studio that made Gravity Rush) all over it.

@Blaze I always thought the wait was for P4G to come out on Vita over here first so not been bothered about the wait.

@rjejr Sony have been teasing a big PS Vita reveal for this week have they not? And now this game is revealed. Doesn't take a maths whizz to assume this is it. But it's just and assumption for now, albeit one that's is likely correct.

@rjejr The build up wouldn't have been so deliberately made to notice to then not have a worldwide release. You really think Sony can afford to not release all Vita games overseas with the console in the mess it is?

Forget the graphics - the free vinyl!! Drooling over my copy right now.

To quote everybody's favourite condom-headed robot, "Ahh, smug mode."

@Gamer83 Casual gamers won't update for GT6. It's that simple. As much as it might sell its not a COD, FIFA, Madden or Assassin's Creed and until those games go next gen-only games will still come out for the PS3 as it will still be ticking over better than nicely.

@get2sammyb Some will think its a stupid strategy but I think it will work wonders. PS4 will sell in steady numbers - likely unspectacular after the "IT'S HERE!" hype inevitably dies down and when we hit the summer dry patch. All the while though it will be enough to keep it from being a disaster at worst or more hopefully just disappointing. During that time the PS3 at a new lower place gets more owners, likely ones who are upgrading from a Wii or for a child's first own console.

@get2sammyb It'll be that way all next year too. Been saying that since the PS4 reveal. Glad to see I wasn't just a mad barsteward and people are coming round to what I said. I fully expect early 2015 is when Sony will go full hog with the PS4. Better looking versions of games might entice the hardcore and fanboys but until the machine (and the 720) get next gen-only versions of The Big Four (COD, Assassin's Creed, Madden and FIFA) the average casual gamer will simply NOT buy a next gen machine. And I fully expect all four of those to be on this gen next year, for the final year.

Seven whole new tracks. Wow.

It's not just the Vita memory cards - I broke a PS3 pad yesterday and went to get a new one this morning only to discover they cost £40-50. £40-50! That is a soluteky pathetic. Controllers used to be £20 or less so why the hell is this as much as a game? And don't give me any nonsense about it being "technical" or whatever as you can get a Wiimote and Nunchuck or that monstrosity of a 360 controller for £25.

@Sanquine SML2 was a great game. Loved Bunny Mario. But yeah, sadly, they just want COD and Battlefield nowadays. It's quite distressing really. How many wonderful, unique and magical games get ignored completely for another bland shooting game?

Woah, woah, woah, woah, WOAH! A five? Christ on a bike! Couldn't disagree more with that review. I enjoyed every single second of it on the umpteen number of playthroughs I've given it. Brilliant, wonderful game and, for me, the second best game on PS3 (behind Red Dead). Hopefully people have been trying it now its on PS+.

@Sanquine I've never liked any of the Xbox ads since the original in the UK (the baby shooting out of it's Mum, flying through the sky, aging until its an old man who crashes into a coffin). Said sod all about the Xbox but was a good advert. Since then its just "Here's an FPS! Here's another! And another! And..." zzzzzz. Then again, that's all the 'kids' want nowadays.

@ShogunRok Haha. That would actually be quite funny. Seriously though, it'll be on the disc/card or will be ridiculously overcharged DLC.

Whether its included or not has already been decided and they're just deliberately winding up their fans to get more media attention on the game.

@Paranoimia If the Xbox reveal has been first and the PS4 one was this close then he'd be saying the exact opposite. For once the lunatic is talking sense. With Sony diehards expectation hasn't waned, with everyone else it has. Simple.

@hydeks I'm in the opposite boat to you as I had no idea it was coming out on the PS3. Thought it was Vita-only. Hope it comes to the UK sharpish, along with Muramasa.

Tomorrow I'll be starting Virtue's Last Reward while also playing around with Sly 4.

@ everyone wanting a Final Fantasy - Square Enix could be gone if they balls up their next big game. They will have FF on every format possible to make sure they get as much money as they can. It would be a huge, huge gamble for them to go exclusive to any console.

@Epic They've never really been scary though, have they? If you're easily scared I guess maybe they are but if you've seen even just one scary movie then any Res Evil is a doddle. I had this on 3DS but never got round to playing it before my bag was stolen, losing me my 3DS and games, so give the demo a try. More importantly though, new Sound Shapes DLC and Kreig on Borderlands 2 are out on the same day!

The only one there I agree with really would be an Uncharted, but even then only just. Last Guardian (as much as I want it) won't be a system seller, like Ico and SOtC weren't, being outstanding games that people who want to play COD/sports game just don't care about. It's the same with Uncharted. We all love it but those sort of gamers won't even look at it. All the huge selling games (COD/Madden/FIFA/GTA/AC) are all multi-platform which is why they sell so much, Sony first part games don't appeal to those people so any exclusives there would just get the fanboys hot under the collar, not the casuals.

As for Final Fantasy, well its kind of dying, even in Japan. People are getting fed up of Square Enix over there and sales are dropping for each FF. Obviously it would still do very well, but not so much as the past. What would help them though is if they throw a pile of money at Square Enix (yes, even though I've just slated them) to get Dragon Quest back - that is the game that sells the ridiculous amount that people assume FF always does. They were made by the government to release each title on a Saturday just so people don't skive off of work and school. Get Dragon Quest back and PS4 sells in similar numbers to 3DS over there.

Sadly in America/Europe all that would be needed is a deal with someone who makes a football, American football or FPS game.

Lastly, I won't be buying a PS4 until late 2014 at the earliest as I've been stung too many times with getting consoles too early but all it would take would be three little words: new Red Dead.

@Gamer83 It's a double edged sword as they want Cross Play to be huge so people need Vita's and short of a miracle they need to invest money and games into it. If they do they get the money back and everybody is happy. If they don't they risk losing customers who'll be wary of them. The PS4 won't really take off until 2015 (people sticking to this gen, games sticking to this gen) so I'd say this is when they should be putting titles on the Vita - or both Vita and PS4.

@rjejr Sorry but absolutely everything you have said there is wrong. And God knows what the Vita is like if the 3DS is "poorly selling" - good grief. Have you played LM2? Or even the original? It's a poor fit on a home console and makes sense on a portable, even more so now there are smaller, more puzzley mansions. It's made to be picked up, played, put down, come back later. It's also not one of their big franchises so how you think it'd be a system seller worthy of leading the Wii U is beyond me. But I'm not going to comment any more on it lest I be accused of being a Nintendo fanboy purely for liking games you don't get on a Sony machine...

As for priorities, no. Their priorities are on their machines. The 3DS line up is barren compared to the Wii U (from Nintendo) as they try to improve it's fortunes and Sony clearly need to make Vita sing sweetly if they want cross play to be anything more than a gimmick. If not then it smacks of betrayal to Vita owners who would think wisely about buying any other Sony console.

@rjejr Luigi's Mansion 2 was made for the 3DS and the 3DS alone. It was never intended to be made on the GameCube. It was also made by Next Level Games, not Nintendo. They had them do that so EAD could make New Super Mario Bros and a new Zelda just for Wii U. So you're, basically, completely wrong there I'm afraid. If Sony cut the Vita I won't be buying a PS4. Why would I buy another PlayStation when if its going wrong Sony just kill the machine rather than try and sort it out?

They should just remake the creepy Japanese adverts McDonald's had. Best adverts ever. Google them if you don't know what I'm on about, God knows how Maccie D's thought they would get people to their restaurants - must have terrified the kiddies.

@rjejr The difference between the Wii U and Vita is Sony could easily cut the cord and move on while Nintendo will continue supporting their machine. Imagine if Mario Kart, Zelda and Smash 4 were coming to Vita and how much they'd sell and consoles people would buy for them. That's what will happen to the Wii U. It'll never reach the sales heights of the true next gen machines but it will pick up. Sony need to do similar. I hate Gran Turismo and think God Of War is the most boring series alive but both sell (except the last GOW). Put them on Vita with other big names - sorry Killzone, you're not a big name enough to be a system seller - and they'll sell like hot cakes

@Gemuarto Beat me by twelve minutes. Well two technically as I thought I'd paused the game when I had someone at the front door.

Same problem as the PSP, they made a console and shrunk it into a handheld as opposed to making a portable console.It's never worked. Just look at how many handheld consoles have bombed against the Gameboy/DS/3DS purely because they are made as portable consoles. The PSP did relatively well thanks to Monster Hunter in Japan and Sony really didn't need Capcom going Nintendo-only with that series but it makes sense from a business view.
If Sony want to save the Vita (if they really want PS4 owners to have one, less cross play becomes yet another failed gimmick) they need to stop all this crap about memory card prices, cut the price of the machine and - as much as I don't want them, preferring new stuff - bring out a version of everyone of their franchises.

My game of the year so far. Lovely little game with a unique charm.

@ViciousDS A major change in graphics isn't a major change in gameplay to further the game on and make it the definitive version so my point still stands. I hope I'm proved wrong but this happens time and time again. Besides, as I keep saying, Joe Public won't give a toss about 1080p so will be buying Black Ops 3 on PS3/360 next year.

@Kingandaval Look at the Wii U's ports. That is what will happen within the first year or two until the PS4 and 720 start selling enough to convince major third parties to go all next gen. Do you honestly believe FIFA, Madden, COD and Assassin's Creed will sell better on next gen machines this year (or AC4 will be any different at all)? Course they won't. And the same for next year. As I've said before its 2015 when next gen will really take off. First party games likely won't feature as much problems but third party games will. They won't put time, effort and most importantly money into just next gen games/features when they're also going on this gens machines. That's not a lecture, it's an opinion. As I stressed at the end. Oh, and lecturing would have made it arrogant, not naive, but I wasn't lecturing, merely stating my own opinion. If you don't like it then fine, happy to discuss it, but don't try to make out like I was being an arse because you didn't agree.

But on InFamous I am going on the difference between 1 and 2 which I have said I didn't think added anything of merit personally and also on how they progressed with the Sly series, adding more and more tat until their final game in the series was a mess compared to the masterpiece of an original. Again, my opinion.

@kingandaval You can. And I have. It's naive to think these PS4 ports will have anything extra other than insignificant tiny bits added on (like the extra hour in AC3 on PS3 for example) and slightly better rendered clouds. As for Knack it is the only intriguing game to me personally as, for me, the Killzone and InFamous sequels have added nothing to their originals and the new versions look like merely more of the same, while Killzone just looks boring as sin. That reveal video is the most boring game video I have ever seen. Am I wrong? No. Am I right? No. Merely my view on the game and the PS4s first year or two.

@hamispink I don't either, but 99% of all uses for it will be gimmicky, like with the Wiimote or Wii U touchscreen or Kinect or Move.

@3Above I wish I had your naive optimism. Just look at every Wii U port like AG_Awesome has said - that is what is going to happen to both PS4 and 720 for the foreseeable future.

@Epic Knack is the only intriguing game on PS4 so far for me. InFamous and Killzone are just sequels which could be done on PS3 (nobody bother going on about how they couldn't, they could, it's just they're graphically better) whereas Knack is something new. Yes, that too could probably be on PS3 as well but at least it's a start.

@get2sammyb The poll is kind of unwarranted. The majority of people on here will say yes they'll get a PS4 or not sure yet but will do in the future. It's not us that need this question asked, it's the casuals and they will more than likely just laugh in your face when asked "would you rather spend £300+ on a new console to play the new COD or buy it for your current console." Not having a go mind, love a poll to see opinions, but as I said its not us that need to be asked this. We're on a Sony site because we want PllayStation games/machines.

@hamispink Sharing and the new controller will be nothing more than mere gimmicks on any game that is on both consoles, sadly. Just look at any game that is on PS3/360 and the Wii U.

@rjejr If Sony are stupid it'll be PS4 only But they're not so it'll be PS3 and PS4.

I've been saying this since the PS4 reveal show. It is massively going to have an impact on both it and the next Xbox. Fanboys of either company will tell you it won't but it will. Why would you spend £300-God knows what on a machine that runs a game your current machine does with the only difference being it's a bit pettier? Of course there will be people who will get the new consoles but the 'casuals' won't and that is who both Sony and Microsoft need, like it or not. Both PS4/720 will struggle in their first year or two as third party developers will continue to support this gen as COD, Assassin's Creed, FIFA, Madden and GTA (and it's DLC) are all on them.