@TheRealBatman That Killzone intro was absaloutly epic back in the day

Im not suprised at all by the results. IVe been sat in the office all day so far on my lonesome so Ive been surfing the web checking in on numerous game sites n the talk aint good for last night. A lot of excuses being made by fanboys mind you and I honestly cant beleive theres people who are lapping up everything M$ announced n label it INNOVATIVE! Wow....

The Xbox1 specs are little vague, and with good reason too as Ive gathered from the chatter. Apparently the 'Durango' leak from a while back is pretty much what the specs are and when I had a look at them...well..It deosnt make good reading for Xbox fanboys. The fact theyve included 32MB of EDRAM to the GPU to try and alleviate the HUGE memory bandwidth difference between DDR3 n GDDR5 just says it all really...

I had an hour long conversation on the phone with my Xbox-loving chum after the conferance had finished. After much musing we both settled on a rather important point. How the hell is this gonna work in Europe, Asia etc? How will this play out in the UK with Sky and Virgin Media? Will those same cable features be available here too? and how much extra on top of the Live cost as it is now will it be with all these new servers n cloud features?

In all honesty I was seriously underwhelmed by the whole thing. M$ could have come out n laid all the rumours to rest but they didnt. Instead we got a half-assed stage show full of sports, cable TV and pre-rendered game footage. Oh n the console looks like a VHS player. Yes! I said VHS! lol

That Xbox1 reveal was quite possibly WORSE than thier E3 conferance last year...

No-one here even played Metro 2033? I hear a lot of talk of other post-apocalyptic shooters but none of the fabulous original lol The original is one of my favourite games this generation. A little clunky but has a story n atmosphere that grips from start to finish. The book is even better. Looking forward to playing through this

I need to see more about the game before I decide on it, but I am intrigued. Considering Mark Cerny is directing it I could see it becoming the dark horse of the launch lineup

@Azikira Exactly. Im currently playing Star Trek Online through Steam (love trek, big deal lol) and I think it has a really good F2P set-up. All the game content is available for free, theres also a new Romulan DLC launching on the 21st thats free for all users, and you have access to the same ships and weapons as a subscriber. Most of the paid content is Uniforms and certain ships, which funnily enough deosnt make much difference as Ive not spent any money on the game yet n can go toe-to-toe with the best of em. Theres 2 ways of getting extra ships etc - Pay or complete offers. A subscriber gets a monthly allowance of Zen coins but instead I signed up to peanutlabs n get almost 100 zen coins everytime I do a survey. Im currently stocking up for the Wrath of Khan starfleet uniform and an Excelsior class ship which'll cost about 1500 zen coins. Ill be lookin good while blowing Klingons to pieces without spending a dime on the game. STO is a good example of F2P done right.

Free to Play is great if its done right.

@get2sammyb @rastamadeus Aye thats what I meant. From a technical and cinematic viewpoint it looks to be above what most games are capable of delivering. Its not going to be everyones cup o' tea when it comes to gameplay, as anyone who disliked Heavy Rain, would be same with Beyond. I didnt intend on it sounding like I was stating Beyond was insumountable by any other means and all games should fall at its feet and proclaim it master, but I can see how you'd come to that conclusion when I look back at my post. Sorry for the confusion chaps!

@get2sammyb I know what you mean. That trailer was absaloutly epic. This game has the potential to be THE defining game of this generation. Im actually looking forward to this more than The Last of Us

OMG! OMG! OMG! Is this real? Pinch me! Please!? I need to know Im not dreaming

@rastamadeus I agree with you on this one Supporting the PS3 too ensures Sony still has Money rolling in while sales for Ps4 start picking up. I dont understand some other viewpoints tho. It sounds as tho they want Sony to become M$? Remember the Xbox. M$ big black console that had a premature death? Few years after launch M$ launch the 360 early and cease support for its previous console. Its a shame for the Xbox as it was starting to hit its stride. Also its a shame for consumers as they suddenly have no choice but to upgrade and the consoles resale value plummets.

I applaud Sony for thier continued support of legacy hardware.

Of course Sony will continue to support the PS3 n so they should. It still has life in the old box. I remember when M$ killed the original Xbox when the 360 launched n left a bitter taste in my mouth as it still had some life in it. Console manufacturers should support a console for about 2 years as it could alienate gamers who are keeping hold of thier current console while they wait to move on.

I hadnt even heard of this game till now, but that trailer makes me wanna get it. NOW! is it on Steam by any chance? I could just wait I suppose...

@KALofKRYPTON Id love to see a game for the original Death Race 2000. That'd be pretty cool But I cant really see EA doing any new IP's any time soon...

@KALofKRYPTON The original was more of a standard career setup with a ladder race system but Underground 2 was completly different n went down the 'open world' route whereby you can freely driver around the city in between races while looking for new ones. Im guessing thats how criterion have done Most wanted altho Ive yet to try it (lack of funds at the mo lol) At the time I thought Underground 2 was incredible and is probably still my favourite in the series. If you have a Ps2 or B/C Ps3 id recommend trying Underground 2. If there is a reboot in the works I hope EA dont decide to change the formula too much n try to change it into a new NFS Shift or something similar, but with Criterion at the helm I cant see that happening

I'm always interested in each new installment. Ive played almost every one lol even the original on Ps1 that was a tekken style brawler. I just hope they don't listen to western reviewers and make wholesale changes to the combat system like they did with the dreadful DW6 (funny how western reviewers don't complain about COD being the same every year) DW7 was a return to form so I hope they only refine the combat mechanics this time. Also hope DW8 still has the 3D option.

Looking forward to Sony pushing the F2P model on PS4. I recently upgraded my computer so Ive been using Steam a bit more lately n I love the F2P games available on it. Like others have mentioned, with the hardware being similar I wouldn't be suprised if more of Steams F2P roster made thier way to PS4. Star Trek Online anyone?

Is this Planetside2 good then? Noticed it on Steam n ill give it a try if its highly recommended

@3Above MAG is still around. Play it myself still from time to time although its not as popular as it was. I dont see why people are getting giddy over Bf4 possibly having 64 players on PS4. The PS3 n PSN has already shown it can do large player counts ie MAG had 256 players per game. Heck even Resistance2 has 60. Id be more worried bout it not being 64 players. I used to play Bf2 on PS2 online n that had 24 players per game. The Bad Company series and Bf3 on PS3? 24 players per game. At least 48 players should be expected on Ps4 but im not holding my breath as I expected 32 for Bf3 as the PS3 is more than capable of that, but DICE didnt deliver.

Another Assassins Creed already?

Dont Activision make enough money from the COD series as it is? Then again ive no sympathy for COD fans anyway as they get milked every year

Although id love a Battlefront 3, id kill for a sequel to Republic Commando

I hope the analogues are not similar to the way they ate on the 360. Picked up a 360 again just before Xmas n Im hating the analogues. They're too small, have far less movement n the concave design makes aiming cumbersome for me on an FPS. I find the DS3 to be more fluid n accurate due to superior analogue design. I honestly find the 360 controller to be the worst of this generation n I hope Sony dont take too many of its design features on board

Love the Empire spin offs of Dynasty Warriors. Is this one 3D live 7 n Its other spin off? I hope its not been dropped the mosou attacks looked jolly good if I do say so myself

Sounds similar to how killzone 3 multiplayer was done on PsN with a cap on leveling.

Im still playing GT5 so Im not too fussed. A fully fledged Gran Turismo on Vita or a new entry on Ps4 would be preferable. GT5 still feels fresh so a GT6 on PS3 wouldn't be necessary at the moment

I agree totally. Haters gonna hate. Ive been saying it was a good move by Sony not to unveil everything so there's still more to come. Ignoring all the good from the conference simply through not showing the actual console is just as narrowminded as id expect publications these days to be. Why read other pigeonholed opinions when you can generate your own?

@rjejr Sony were aiming for 1080p3D ingame when talk started surfacing of Ps4 last year, but as you noticed nothing was mentioned during the conference. I enjoy 3D myself so im hoping its still on the cards, its not like the Ps4 couldn't do it. Hell it still surprises me when playing Uncharted3 in 3D with it managing to keep a high fidelity.

Also good to see the Move is still in Sony's plans for next gen. I wouldnt be suprised if no Move 2.0 was unveiled as the original Move is still an accurate piece of kit for motion control so it would transfer to PS4 easily

Media Molecules tech demo gave me the biggest smile of the conference. The entire scene was sculpted and animated using the PlayStation Move. Absolutely brilliant. Killzone blew me away though. I got goosebumps when Guerilla took to the stage as I knew what coming! Although there us thst notion of a fantasy RPG GG are apparently working on so maybe that'll show at E3. Im glad Sony held off showing the console itself as it gives me more of a reason than looking forward to game announcements for E3

No Motorstorm n No Wipeout. Instead we get DriveClub. This is one area where the ball has definitely been dropped. With SCEE Livepool gone n Motorstorm being brushed under the rug by Evolution, where do PlayStation fans turn now for thier alternative racer? This looks a little too NFS Shift with Gran Turismo attention to detail, which is unfortunate for me. It deos sound like it has some good ideas being brought to the table though.

As a Killzone fan the aspect if the game that impressed me the most wasn't the graphics, although they were incredible, but the story/setting. I like how its not a carry on from 3 so we get the same fascinating Killzone universe, but new characters and locations. I remember Luger in Killzone 1 was a shadow marshal so its good to finally get some backstory on them. Hopefully the Vektan n Helghan Cold war era Berlin situation with sharing the city will make for an intriguing storyline d

@turtlelink Agreed lol one of the major turn offs for me when im on Xbox Live is that everyone has a mic so you tend to have 12yo kids screaming abuse at you n trolling, most of the time for no reason. I much preferred the PS3 approach as Ive barely ever come across this issue on the PSN.

I find the ram to be the most surprising asoect of the hardware. Most of us were only expecting about 4GB and also the fact its GDDR5. Im looking forward to reading more detailed specs when they are released but I think we're gonna have to wait for the Next Xbox to be announced first

My jaw hit the floor when 8GB of GDDR5 ram was mentioned. I was a little skeptical about the Ps4 with it using off the shelf components but I have to admit the specs have floored me. It sounds like a Beast of a console!

@Zombie_Barioth I have a passive 3Dtv and one of the pair of glasses that came with it were indeed clip on lenses. I wear specs myself and the clip ons are definitely better than having to put active glasses over my specs when I go to my friends. If you have a passive tv yaself you should be able to order some clip on lenses, if you have an active 3Dtv then I understand your frustration as active clip ons will probably never come.

Would you say its as big as shivering isle for oblivion? Itd be good to see Bethesda at least getting it right with DLC

Im sure Sony will meet most peoples expectations during tomorrow's meeting. To be honest im not too fussed anymore. My brains melted from excitement lol I just hope Sony can deliver on thier target of 1080p3D for games. I know therez a lot of hate for 3D but after playing games like Uncharted3 n GT5 in 3D, the technology definitely has a lot pf potential. Lets hope the Ps4 can realise it

@Zenith I think steam box could be a dark horse for next gen. Definitely piqued my interest when Valve announced they were considering Linux for its Os.

As for the Ps4 price tag. £300? Its a bit of a dreamworld price for us in the UK but I cant see it being much more than that. With the way Sony have gone about developing the next PlayStation its going to be cheaper than PS3 at launch regardless

I bought a Move at launch. First games I used the Move with were MAG n RUSE. Since then Ive considered FPS games to be far better with the Move as the accuracy n fluidity in aiming are seriously beneficial. Id still be using the Move now but Sonys core games seem to have dried up this past year or so. For me Id rather have the Move as an option than not at all. As a core gamer it can be a great asset, but I wouldnt want to be forced to use it for every game

Wow. So much Halo hate lol As a Halo fan im obviously intrigued by what bungie are up to but like you guys have noticed, its just an announcement if ideas. Sure it sounds like a really good idea, but theres no content to back it up at the moment just words. I think thier hoping Halo fans are gonna start hyping the game but unfortunately, im not. I guess we'll have to wait for a Pushsquare hands-on before we can trust if the ideas have come to fruition seen as most of the game websites love hyping Halo (the crazy scores given to Halo4 was ridiculous considering it was probably the worst in the series) and will probably do the same with this.

Theres too many to mention with PS2. Maybe my first foray online on Battlefield 2 modern combat. Made me forget about my PC for a while lol I still play PS2 quite a bit. Its 12.35am now n Im lay in bed playing Primal! Still technical tour de force. Studio Cambridge sure knew how to make the PS2 sing

I think its a given that the Ps4 wont try to do emulation seen as its proved difficult with PS3 and it would help to reduce costs straight out of the gate. Personally I like the idea of cloud gaming for backwards compatibility. Bandwidth and speed isn't an issue for me being on a fibre-optic network so the only thing to ponder is catalogue, maybe cost. If at least half of the back catalogues were made available it'ddefinitely be worth it. Id prefer a monthly subscription based model myself, but I do think theyd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't offer singular rentals as well though.

I think my head might explode from anticipation begore the 20th lol One of my fondest memories of the PSX was rushing round to my friends after school with my controller, plugging in the multitap n going gung-ho doing 4 player spli-screen deathmatches on Quake2! Team buddies was another multiplayer gem I adored back then

@get2sammyb SEGA's Mega Drive era advertisements are classic To be honest its about rime Sony have trash talked a little. Nintendo have been doing it in a subtle way while M$ have been pretty blatant lately. Funnily enough though M$ coincides with the PS3 overtaking the 360 in sales

Theres a reason my PS3 is sat under my 3Dtv downstairs n the 360 is upst airs hooked up to a CRTtv. The PS3 is simply a better all round entertainment machine, as well as a gaming machine. Dont even get me started on the pathetic IE in the 360 with no flash support ( I cant watch stuff like I can on the PS3 browser as I get a flash error) and constant defaulting to mobile versions of sites. Makes me wonder if M$ have put the Windows mibile version of IE onto the 360 instead of a desktop version....

@SanderEvers The problem with the WiiU's set up is that the console is having to render the output for both screens and process the stream to the tablet so it lowers the overall capabilities of the system. Funnily enough you could buy a 360 n a 7" tablet for less than the price of a WiiU's and if you install smartglass, enjoy similar functionality in some games (Map displays etc)

You should step back from tooting Nintendo's trumpet for a moment with regards to the WiiU. The WiiU basically streams video to the gamepad right? Well, I dunno bout you guys but Ive been able to stream video wirelessly for quite a while. Heck I had an Xda Orbit windows PDA about 5 years ago that I could stream movies from my PC on over WiFi. Maybe Nintendo are following M$ lead there lol

It may sound like im bashing the WiiU, but im not. I actually find it intriguing, like the Wii, n will eventually get one. Nintendo's fanbase just need to realise they aren't as innovative as they seem. If you wanna talk true innovation in Console terms, Im sure anyone who remembers will agree that the greatest of all was the Atari2600. Hell it even had a wireless controller.....

@MrNiceGuy Not at all. I haven't stated an opinion on SSB, just that Ive not tried it due to its character set holding no interest to me. Judging a game Ive not played would be idiotic which is why Ive not expressed an opinion of it

Ive never been interested in SSB n during the whole time I had a Wii I never tried it, I tend to avoid games with mario on the cover as hes outstayed his welcome for me lol When I tried the beta for PS Allstars I actually enjoyed it. Maybe I should've tried SSB but in all honesty the character set puts me off. Even if Nintendo got Hal Jordan id still skip it. Ive not picked up PS Allstars due to the timing n its probably the same for most. Im playing DCuniverse n Warhawk on PS3 n Halo4 on 360 so I dont have time for another game yet. Ill get PS Allstars after christmas. The cross-play makes it a cert ill be able to play with friends more often than not

As long as its a rock solid 30FPS im not too fussed in all honesty

still the best sim based racer on console this generation and without a doubt one of the best games for 3D on Ps3. Its great how much the game has been tweaked n had content added by patches to keep the game ahead of the competition