Last week, Google announced that its Stadia streaming service would launch tomorrow with just 12 old games -- all but one of which you've already played. It was a rather dire line-up, but overnight the company has gone and nearly doubled the number of titles you'll be able to purchase on launch day.
Now made up of 22 games, you can look forward to streaming the likes of Final Fantasy XV, Metro: Exodus, Trials Rising, and Wolfenstein Youngblood all on day one. With the new additions highlighted, the full list now consists of:
- Assassin’s Creed Odyssey
- Attack on Titan: Final Battle 2
- Destiny 2: The Collection (available in Stadia Pro)
- Farming Simulator 2019
- Final Fantasy XV
- Football Manager 2020
- Grid 2019
- Gylt
- Just Dance 2020
- Kine
- Metro Exodus
- Mortal Kombat 11
- NBA 2K20
- Rage 2
- Rise of the Tomb Raider
- Red Dead Redemption 2
- Samurai Shodown (available in Stadia Pro)
- Shadow of the Tomb Raider
- Thumper
- Tomb Raider 2013
- Trials Rising
- Wolfenstein: Youngblood
A subscription to Stadia Pro will now even net users a copy of Samurai Shodown, how lovely is that!? In all seriousness, this is quite obviously an improvement for anyone looking to dive straight into video game streaming before the year is out. Although, it still can't compare to the list of titles available on PlayStation Now, can it?
Some of these games were slated to arrive on Stadia before 2020, so it looks like a handful have been pushed forward to give users more choice on launch day. Could that create a bit of a drought in releases further down the line? We'll see.
Are you thinking of grabbing a subscription to Google Stadia? Tell us why you're not already signed up to PS Now in the comments below.
[source theverge.com]
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I really hope at least stadia users didn't have to pay full price for ffxv..
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Hey, it’s an improvement if nothing else. I’ll keep my eye on it and try to keep an open mind, it’s useless just writing it off instantly.
@Quintumply good idea for one of my first videos tbh.
Or the concept for another one of your games in Dreams. Coming 2052. I love how you got up to the point in development of Snacks on a Train where you got to eat crisps, and then stopped. Classic.
Dude it's a shame that even stadia has FF XV before PS Now, Sony need to step up the service with the entire FF saga from I to XV.
don't care i'm not touching this with a 10 foot barge pole
game streaming isn't viable enough yet ad besides it's Google and they can go die in a ditch
I still don't really understand what this is. So, you pay a monthly fee similar to Game Pass or PS Now, but then you also have to buy the games as well?? Is that the jist?? Why would anyone do that??
@tomassi Basically, yes. They are banking on the value you get coming from being able to play on any screen providing it's connected to the internet. The quality of these games should be good (high resolution and frame rates) so it could be worth it for some gamers, but at £8.99 a month it's not looking like a sensible proposition for most people.
Not sure it will quite be DOA, but you can't see it being a huge success either, can you?
That said, this place is plugging it pretty hard so you never know
@Shepard93n7
I agree. I'm not into services per se, but if anything they need to ensure GamePass doesn't overshadow them if they want to continue to dominate the next gen.
The announcement of the Yakuza series heading there rubbed me the wrong way a bit due to how many times I've heard their fans speak ill of them. Now they'll praise them like hypocrites.
@GADG3Tx87 Yes, even worse those "fake neutral" gamers who claim to have both consoles and say "man my PS4 is collecting dust, I don't have nothing to play" and then when Yakuza series is announced to Xbox: "Yay! I always wanted to play that game" despite having the option to play the series on PS4 for years.
I'm not mad at more people be able to enjoy the series, maybe this can contribute to its establishment in the mainstream market, but toxic fanboys are ruining the joy.
Maybe it is because of the ability to play those games for a small fee per month, in that case Sony needs to ensure all the important titles in the service without cannibalizing sales on the big launches (date to date) and putting crazy microtransactions on them (see gears 5 for example).
@Neolit if performance is going to be close to flawless then it kinda makes sense for someone to get this for a year, maybe? £100 subscription fee in that time, versus cost of a PS4 Pro? Kinda stacks up and the fact you don’t own the games so can’t sell them is mitigated by you having saved £150-£200 on a console, after considering the £100 sub fee.
But once you’ve had it more than a year, you’re really ripping yourself off, unless the convenience of playing on any screen is really a big selling point for you.
Would only be interested in FM2020 but no way would I be paying Google for the privilege... 😂 😂 😂
Not even an Xbox guy but rather use gamepass than Stadia any day.
PS Now has been improving a lot too so competition is only good for us consumers.
@kyleforrester87 Well, I can't see it being a success, but maybe I'm missing the point of it (or am just really uninterested in playing most video games on anything other than a TV).
I've never seen the value of watching a movie or a football match on a phone. But then I don't commute to work so maybe I'm missing out!
@tomassi You do benefit from free hardware updates too, I suppose. I mean, they could overhaul the systems that you’re connected to with new graphics cards/more RAM etc. and just like that your games look a ton better. That’s an exciting element of streaming IMO.
It will open gaming up to a lot more people not just the ones who can afford to drop £200-£350 on a console or £1000+ on a gaming rig.
@tomassi
The monthly fee is optional. If you decide to subscribe then you get better specs on the game you play and a new free game every month.
If you want to use the service when it fully launches next year then you do not have to pay anything apart from buying the games you want to play.
Right now you need to buy a controller to access the service. But on full launch you will be able to use any controller you want.
@Shepard93n7
Totally get where you're coming from. That's what bothers me most about the acquisition is the hypocrisy.
As for the services my fear is that it will diminish the quality of games as a whole due to the developers being unlikely to see a big enough return for their hard work.
I'll explain.
A game comes out, a games goes in a service, the revenue is (supposedly) shared with all developers involved that month. The return is lower than sales of boxed copies.
And if these services take over then people won't buy games, they'll just subscribe. In order for the developers to make ends meet the quality of games, I feel, will decrease. Were already seeing that happen with MS' own studios and acquisitions.
And all this, I feel, is because the lost in the console market. I used to own an Xbox but they are not worth it anymore. And because of their greed an inability to admit defeat, they'll drag the rest of the industry down with them.
Phil Spencer wants the Netflix of gaming, but if you search enough on the internet you'll discover that the business model isn't working even for Netflix, they're in a debt of 12billion dollars, and that defecit has been growing since their first year in business. And consider that their content supposedly costs less to produce and aquire than games do. So if Netflix can't make it work, how can MS unless the games industry sees a drop in quality. Especially if you consider the numbers in that more people watch movies and TV than play games.
As for the argument of "it's good for the consumer" what happens when all the other publishers want a piece of that pie and start their own services? We, the consumers, will end up paying more than ever just to play games with less rights than when we bought new boxed copies.
It's all a big mess, thanks MS.
I think the overall proposition is sound - the subscription is going to vary as of next year. Of course, the proposition is only sound IF
1) The technology is as good as promised
2) The technology is offering something new to consumers
3) There are enticing reasons to buy into the eco system.
My thoughts on Stadia is that if you are only interested in the latest Fifa or COD or whatever and you dont want to keep buying consoles, this could make complete sense. Right now however, the technology is untested by consumers, it offers something far less than most other gaming options and right now, the launch lineup is one exclusive and, well, a lot of old games that can be bought very cheap on other platforms.
Right now, this launch lineup gives no incentive for existing console owners to dip in and no real reason for non owners to jump in.
@hotukdeals @tomassi sorry if I was wrong - I had understood there was only a paid for option at the moment.
I think Stadia will be the beginning of the end for consoles. But for now: ps5 please.
@GADG3Tx87 I understand completely your point, and in addition to that, Netflix is present on more than 1000 million devices around the globe, Game pass is at most 50-70 M counting selected PCs that can run those games, if the business is not sustainable for Netflix imagine Xbox Game pass with less than the half of the half of the market. Evidently a business like that can't support high quality in-house games, for third parties Microsoft pays on cash to devs so it's not that bad if games doesn't sell, but in games like Gears they (Microsoft) are loosing money on the date to date thing, and that's why Sony must not follow the same path. Luckily they aren't as Jim Ryan has stated a couple weeks ago.
@tomassi You pretty much paying for "hardware rent", since you don't need to own the powerful computer yourself and also you can play it on any device pretty much. Other than that it's stupid service, since PS Now offers the hardware and 700 games for 60 bucks a year. So yeah, Stadia - stupid service for stupid people.
Beige is probably the best word to describe stadia.
@Neolit Google Stadia is a RIP OFF
not only do you have to pay a subscription fee of £8.99 a month PLUS £119 for the device but also full price for each game you want to play, that's £107.88 PER YEAR
so you first payment is is £226.88 for the first year plus £107 for each following year, a PS4 or XB1 costs £249 and is a ONE OFF payment, after 2 years the PS4 or XB1 has still only cost you £249 but the Stadia has cost you £334,76 and it will just keep going up year on year
IT'S A RIP OFF PEOPLE, DON'T LET THEM MAKE THIS THE NORM
@kyleforrester87 no your right there is no free option until next year, assuming it lives that long
@FullbringIchigo ah, thanks.
As for it being a rip off, it is kind of dependant on circumstances - at the end of the day if you perceive significant value from the idea of being able to connect to any screen where you have internet then that's down to the individual. I appreciate that doesn't apply to most people but you shouldn't dismiss it, either.
I think that they are going to have to be very dynamic with their pricing - they need to plan, but if in 6 months things aren't going as intended they should rework the fee structure accordingly.
@kyleforrester87 i consider anything you pay over the odds for as a rip off, Stadia by itself it cost nearly £2000 after 8 years if you want everything out of it where as a PS5, A Scarlet or the next Nintendo will probably cost no more than £500 and last just as long
and that's before taking into account the prices of games and the fact that if your internet goes down it worthless
being able to play a game on any screen in my house isn't worth £2000, i can do that by unplugging my console and moving it
it's a service that caters to the lazy and the people with short attention spans, it prays on their compulsive tendencies like Lootboxes do and not only that but it takes ALL control over everything we play away from us
THAT to me is a rip off my friend
Wow it went from really really lackluster and bad to really really lackluster and bad but with 10 more games.
OnLive 2.0
I lost 3 games when it went under... I'll sit this one out.
There's not one game on that list that I'd be interested in. Didn't buy any of them on PS4, so certainly wouldn't bother buying a Stadia to not play them either. 🤣
@FullbringIchigo Okay, so what if you had Stadia for 2 years (£200) and they then upgraded all their systems with new hardware, effectively making it twice as powerful. You don't have to go out and buy a new next-gen console at £400 - you just keep paying £8.99.
They could do this every 4 years, so while you're paying £400 in subs over that time, you're essentially getting a performance upgrade equivalent to a new-gen console (which costs £400 off the shelf) at no extra cost, called Stadia 2. Your Stadia 2 account plays all Stadia 1 games. So your financial outlay is the same. Plus the convenience of playing on any screen.
@kyleforrester87 but that's based on the assumption they wont charge for it
but even if say a PS6 comes out during that time and you have 2 systems over those 8 years while Stadia doesn't it's still a lot cheaper than the Stadia is over the same time period and it only keeps increasing year on year where are when the next system comes out even buying a PS7 it's still a cheaper option overall
lets use the maths, lest say the PS5, PS6 and PS7 all cost £500 each that's till only £1,500 over the same period, Stadia is still £500 more, just for the added benefit of not having to change the console and even then adding another system like the PS8, the total cost of the PlayStation,s is £2000 but the Stadia is STILL going up by at least £500 every 5 years, it would take nigh on 20 years for the total cost of the PlayStation systems to over take the total cost of Stadia
it's still too exspensive and as for playing on any screen well both the PS4 and XB1 has remote play so you can pretty much already play them on any screen
@FullbringIchigo Let's look over the past 11 years and going into next year...
I paid...
PS3 - £300
Vita - £200
PS4 - £350
PS4 Pro - £350
PS5 - £400?
Total - £1600 (before PS+ subs & memory cards for Vita, guess we are pushing £2k including that)
Stadia price over same period...
£1300
@FullbringIchigo Sorry my calculation is based on only 12 years of Stadia subscription, where as including PS5 you have say 16 years of "use" from Playstations there.
So lets say Stadia total over that period is £1726!
@kyleforrester87 well the PS4 Pro is completely optional so that's an extra cost you chose to pay
but you can't put the PS1 to PS3 and even Vita against it because they have already been and gone, counting them is like saying that Netflix is a better option than blu-ray because i also had a DVD player and VHS player and had to pay for them and if your doing that then why not add any system you brought Before the PS3 came out like the PS1, PS2, SNES and NES, those are still systems that had to be paid for
you have to take it from when Stadia launches and what systems IT will be up against which is the PS4 onwards because you not paying for Stadia over the past 11 years have you
but lets say you had been paying over that time after another 11 years from now that's £3452 just for stadia but even if we add 3 more consoles at £500 that's only £1500 added on to the £1600 and it's still cheaper
@FullbringIchigo You can put the Vita and Pro in, the point is they should be able to adapt the back end hardware for Stadia on the fly so you can play anything and everything at its best that releases within that ecosystem. To do the same with PlayStation you have to buy the necessary hardware.
At the end of the day you should basically be having access to the equivalent of a high end PC at all times that you never need to upgrade for £8.99 a month.
My point is that while it isn't for me, and won't be for many, I think the value could be there for some people as it currently stands.
But come on, don't be doing the caps lock "IT'S A RIP OFF" thing :')
But they either need to do much better out the gate if they are expecting to draw a big audience, or be prepared to be in it for the long haul because I don't see this approach being an immediate success.
@kyleforrester87 one of the other issues is the internet itself, i did a test and even IF i wanted it with the internet in my area it's not worth the price anyway because even at it's best it can only do 720p gaming and in the UK there are MANY areas like this and in Europe too
it might be feasible in the big cites in America but most of the world won't even be able to get the top end of the free version
that also makes it a waste of money, you would be paying monthly for 4K gaming and you can't actually get anyway
@FullbringIchigo Yeah I mean, that's a different issue, but of course you would be dumb to pay for something you couldn't use. I tried Now a week ago, it really works surprisingly well.
In the more immediate future I see me using streaming to replay old favourites or games I missed versus new releases. For example I played the first few levels of Sonic Adventure 2 on Now, it was basically perfect..had my fill of it, but it was a nice way to spend an hour. Without streaming the last time I would have played that game was 2001 or something. So..that's value right there IMO.
Was this the plan from the start? Release a virtualboy sized lineup and then double it?
@kyleforrester87 you know some people still will. i wonder how many people haven't even bothered to check if they can run it or not?
@FullbringIchigo even if they do, they will pay 1 month then cancel. Anyway, it’s like buying a PC game without checking the minimum specs.
I've just been reading the Digital Foundry breakdown of this and some games don't even run at 4K, such as Destiny 2 at 1080p and RDR2 at 1440p. Then you have the added latency as they noted that Destiny 2 feels snappier at 30fps on consoles than 60fps on Stadia and some compression artefacts as you're essentially watching a video of the game you're streaming. Overall they believed it to be much less than what they are expecting the next gen consoles to be capable of.
Oh and make sure your network is fast as they couldn't get it working at 4K at 30mbps on Sky and had to test it on Virgin Media.
@kyleforrester87 judging by what DF are saying you're not getting access to what a high end PC would be capable of at launch. Destiny 2 at 1080p and RDR2 at 1440p, much less than what the X is capable of
@carlos82 fair enough, still I’m playing devils advocate, and I’m just considering realistically more about what the service could evolve into.
The nay sayers don’t care so much about that aspect, they just want it to go away. Which is typical gamer mentality to be honest.
@kyleforrester87 yeah that potential for constantly upgrading hardware certainly has possibilities, at launch though I'd say its half baked but it hasn't even got that far yet. At some point in the future I expect streaming to be the norm but with the likely capabilities of the next gen consoles it'll be a while before we need it, oh and if I can't 3D print ladders and walking boots off of its network it loses even more points 😜
@carlos82 Yeah I agree, it’s less than half baked out the gate. Not an attractive start. But maybe there is an audience out there that we don’t understand.. no one here seems to play Fortnite 🤷♂️
Anyway, I gotta go see the engineer, the craftsman and then finish up at south lake knot. Keep on keeping on!
@kyleforrester87 haha actually I'm off back to the engineer myself and then I might finally go get an old man some pens from the mountains, presumably from some ancient ruins of Woolworths 😂
@carlos82 lol I just saw the “get pens for elder” mission and thought... nawww. I don’t like the elder for some reason. I’ll have to sort that out.
DOA, and it's not even a question. With all the bad news surrounding this thing, the fact you have to maintain a subscription to play the games you BOUGHT, and next gen coming there is simply no reason for anyone to invest in this, not a single one.
@kyleforrester87 hey lets be honest we all know people do that too
@FullbringIchigo Yeah of course but it's not exactly a sustainable market that you'd try and base a successful business on. Flogging games to people who's machines can't run them lol.
@kyleforrester87 well you know the old saying "There is a sucker born every minute"
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