More Studios Call Out Sony's Console Cross-Play Beta

you would think being comapnies they would understand that a beta is for testing to make sure it works before rolling it out to everyone

Here we go again.
Sony just can’t catch a break, can they?
I mean, the devs are not wrong, but I guess it’s not that easy to implement cross-play.

@get2sammyb well maybe it is kind of, by concertrainig on a few games, popular games then they can make sure it's working properly but if they just released it for everyone it could fail and just cause problems

i think it's more of a "better safe than sorry" thing that anything else

Hey war thunder... only makes me want to play your game less.

oh look another dev that needs some extra attention for their less popular than fortnite battle royale game...

this is not about playing favourites. this is sony playing smart for checking the beta with the most popular games that fit the cross play mode.

not their fault that war thunder and paladins etc can't seem to get the playerbase that rocket league and fortnite have etc.

It helps to get some attention on your games by stoking the hot topic flames. Especially when a new free to play game has just come to market and is probably stealing your customer base.
I wonder if those games truly are all ‘ready to go ‘ or it’s another Bethesda bluff.

Lol. Easy as "flipping a switch" lol. Can't wait till Sony says go ahead and they havent figured out the 'workaround' or integration. I love Psyonic and Rocket League but they cried the same way. Sony said we are ready and all the sudden its "its not as simple as flipping a switch". Big, giant nothing burger these devs crying about this

I bet Bethesda is more upset 😏😉

How much Phil Spencer is paying these guys?

For the most part all Sony needs to do to allow cross play is pick up the phone to the dev and say OK, go ahead. It is 100% contractual issues that stop it, not technical. Some devs may have run separate code sets and backends but for most it will just be a DB flag. Sony does not do anything to enable cross play beyond allowing it.

Yeah come on Sony. I've got a working PS5 prototype ready to go here. Just waiting for you on this.

How come all of these free-to-play companies are making a thing out of this on Twitter? I feel like it's bad PR to do this.

If Gears for Breakfast gets a bunch of backlash for a clap emoji reply when someone asks about a Switch port, then how come this is praised?
Do people really have a "we must band together to stop the big, bad, bully Sony" mindset?

People sure like complaining over nothing.

@Deadlyblack IDK, I think it has to do with people playing with friends on other systems. I really don't think it's a big deal but you know how people in this day and age like to complain.

@FullbringIchigo Worked fine for Xbox and Switch so far.... Sony are just trying to waste time and are being choosey with who they pick.

This has very little to do with 'Testing' - Where was the 'beta' for 'testing' with Xbox and Switch?

Its annoying and not for the gamer.

Who cares?... Cross-play's just about the least interesting thing Sony could implement. Seems to me only devs care about it... Or at least not a lot of gamers do in comparison.

I wonder what Microsoft could lord over Sony with if they do decide to fully allow crossplay? 🤔

As soon as I hear any studio cry about cross play I add them to my blacklist. Focus on making better games, if you need crossplay that badly it means your game is doing poorly, deal with it.

@RawnDawn I know what it's about, but it seems like the only companies that are making a stink are the ones that only make free-to-play games.

@SuperJoon Not for the gamer? Sony is bringing me high quality exclusive games, that is the single most important thing.... GAMES.
Stuff crossplay.

Wish he hadn't invoked the wall comparison, it means the US and Mexico will never be able to play together. 😂

I don't want cross play. As a console player we are at a major disadvantage in Shooters and even something ubiquitous like Rocket League benefits from zero lag on PC. If you don't think there's an advantage you are either a fool or ignorant.

@FullbringIchigo it’s not really a beta test lol. Devs had turned it on accidentally before. I’d imagine it’s got a lot more to do with Sony testing how much money they lose from transactions. Sony isn’t doing the cross play. These devs are

@Gamer4Lyfe a game doing poorly doesn’t mean it’s bad. Smite is one of the best free to play games in the market

@DanM I don’t care about it per se, but it would help a lot with smaller games. Like for instance I’d like to play Friday the 13th still. The player base on PS4 is so low I can never get full games. With crossplay that might not be an issue

@DLB3 considering we’ve all see in the past devs could “accidentally “ turn on cross play, I’d imagine Sony is only beta testing how much money they lose on in game transactions

@clvr yes it is. Sony isn’t the one enabling it. The devs are. It’s been “accidentally” turned on in games before Sony allowed it

@FullbringIchigo But Sony needs need to give them a roadmap then.
@TheMCnoisy What about at least Xbox and Switch? It would be great for friends with different consoles and for keeping playerbases alive. I don’t think shooters will ever have PC crossplay because of the advantage. I’ve never thought about the lag though.
I hope the cross-play storm will rise again. Then we’ll see that no one really cared. I think people having some patience is a better description.

Yes, all this talk and criticism about ps4 not enabling crossplay. How about a story about xbox one requiring xbox live to play free to play games?

Meanwhile, the two games that do have crossplay enable, have been missing basic features, and network lag reduction on ALL platforms. But no one seems to focus on them fixing those....

@Deadlyblack I don't think it's only company's that are making a stink are the ones who want it, unless Fortnite is a stink but I do think it helps with finding matches in games. I play paladins from time to time and it could take up to 2 min. to find a match (though that's on a bad day) but maybe cross-play will help with that.
I don't know man, like I said. I could care less about cross-play.

I'm more interested in cross-save/progress rather than cross-play, it will be great if I can play wargroove on switch on the go and continue it on my ps4, it will make me buy the game on ps4 although I already have it on switch.

Rocket League suffers from terrible lag spikes with crossplay enabled, so I had to turn it off just to play a match.

@SuperJoon don't kid yourself into think MS are doing this "for the gamers", they got their backside handed to them this gen because of their own stupid mistakes so they are doing something to try and bring the players back and make money, no other reason

also what about last gen when Sony approched MS about cross play and MS told them to "jog on", i don't see people saying anything about that

@Jaz007 yeah the lack of comunication is an issue, they could at least let them know what's going on

@jly1987 then why does MS insist you need XBL to do it properly then? surely if it's a devloper side thing and somthing as simple as "flipping a switch" then you wouldn't need XBL on Switch, P.C or Mobile at all

@Cutmastavictory Did you even want to play it with planes of €10 per plane. 😁

@SuperJoon They only wanted it after getting destroyed. They declined it with FF14 online because it was without Xbox Live and nobody talks about that. Last generation on top no we dont want it.

@jly1987 well said. Finally a voice of reason.

@FullbringIchigo you need their online service because the consoles are designed to not allow it to happen. And yes, it is that simple because that’s how this talkngot started on console. At one point both Rocket league and Fortnite “accidentally” turned it on

@jly1987 so if you need XBL on the systems because they are designed to be closed so they can't connect to each other then how can a simple switch flip do it as well?

you contradicted yourself in your own statement and Fortnite is different because they don't run through PSN or XBL but have their own servers, now for games that are like that yes it would be easily done but for a game running on Sony servers or MS servers it's a hell of a lot more difficult than "flipping a switch"

it's like this, you have 2 things speaking a different language trying to speak to each other and not understanding anything being said so you need to come up with a translator to bridge the gap, that takes time and it may be they are completely incompatible

@FullbringIchigo you’re speaking from ignorance and not fact. It is 100 percent fact that it’s on the devs to turn it on. Sony just won’t allow them now. Once again because you clearly are speaking from ignorance and not fact, if it couldn’t Be just turned on psyonix and epic wouldn’t have been able to do it. That’s why all these devs are complaining. They have cross play ready to go, because it’s in the dev side. Sony just won’t let them

@FullbringIchigo I never said that fortnite ran on its own sever and not Xbox live or song. You literally just made that up.

@gp_amuro
Yup. Nothing wrong with calling Sony out on crossplay, especially since it was Sony who decided recently to dip its toe in the water. But it is funny to me how mainstream multiplatform websites like IGN, Kotaku, etc don't seem to cover the Xbox free-to-play issue at all. But people want to act like game journalism is at its peak today. We can get wonderful 'think pieces' about how Resident Evil doesn't allow people to be a compassionate hero (somebody really wrote nonsense) but lets just forget about real news.

@Gamer83 let me guess that resident evil article was polygon

@get2sammyb
Seems to me Sony's communication has been bad for a while. And it's not just with consumers at this point, but devs too. I know people here don't like when this is said, but the signs of arrogant, obnoxious Sony are starting to creep back in and I don't like it.

@jly1987
No, something called waypoint.

@jly1987 whatever think what you like, it's obvious that you have your own ideas on the matter and wont listen to anything anyone else has to say, even if they have actually looked into it they don't agree with you so they are ignorant because you have to be right

don't bother tagging me in anything else because i wont be responding

i'll just leave this her WITH THE FACTS, cross play runs off their own servers NOT XBL or PSN

https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/battle-royale/royale-with-cheese/539346-what-servers-are-played-on-during-cross-play-with-xbox-one-and-nintendo-switch

@FullbringIchigo once again. It’s on the dev side. Not Sony or Microsoft. Hence why they enabled it when nobody knew they can. Realm Royale, Smite, and Paladins could be cross play today if Sony would let them. It’s sony who isn’t playing fair and that’s why devs are calling them out for playing favorites

@FullbringIchigo https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=undefined&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwiNwMf_567gAhVqS98KHeChBVkQzPwBCAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwccftech.com%2Fwar-thunder-dev-asked-sony-crossplay%2F&psig=AOvVaw04Bj5blVyS58BCd2HGNf-P&ust=1549807236357888

You can stand up for Sony all you want, the only blockade here is them

Remember last gen when MS didn't want this, and it wasn't an issue?

Yeah... it still isn't.

got to love all the doom & gloom people on here get a grip will you what are you 12 years old or something when it is out of BETA it will be ready & game companies acting like muppets sending out tweets is embarrassing.
this feature is so important all of sudden lol.

All I want is Minecraft crossplay so I can use my Simpsons skins on ps4. After that Sony could deny any other game crossplay and I'd be perfectly fine

@David187 The stupidity in these comments is unreal, Sony isn't running a Beta, cross play requires ZERO input from Sony. It's purely a legal grip they have over developers. Fortnite was cross play without them even knowing, the developers can literally flip a switch and enable cross play.

@themcnoisy cross play allows me to play games with My kids who now love many hours away, I can play and talk to them no matter what device they use, if your that bothered about a competitive advantage don't join cross play lobbies, it's not rocket science.

sony plays favourites to its own users?. what a shocker. this was never an issue until sony wiped the floor with the other consoles. some of us don't want cross-play against other platforms, and i have yet to see that in games that do support it, it's something you can opt out of.

@DirectAim how can they just flip a switch beyond silly it will create stress on the network which has to be checked.

that is great you want to play with ya kids but this was not a feature when you got the systems so just wait & have some patience! stop this flick a switch mentality not how things work.

@DirectAim Or buy them a PlayStation?

@themcnoisy I have done, literally bought my daughter a PS4 yesterday. Previously she had an Xbox 360. The point I was making was that cross play is useful and welcomed by many people, just because you deem it an unfair advantage... I presume because your a "pro gamer" doesn't mean it not a fantastic move in the right direction for many people. Kids especially find this useful, the fact my son can play with his friends from school who are using a Switch or Xbox is a wonderful and fantastic feature.

@David187 Epic Games literally enabled cross play without ANY input from Sony. This was reported when gamers noticed they had players from other consoles in their lobby.

https://kotaku.com/epic-accidentally-allows-xbox-and-ps4-cross-play-on-for-1818518611

Weird how Epic Games enabled cross play without any involvement from Sony...

Also, who do you think runs the game servers? Its cetainly not Sony. Each developer will run their own servers so stress on the network is down to the dev/publisher who by the sounds of it are sat waiting and ready (in the case on War Thunder dev anyways).

@DirectAim I do have a Ps4 Pro, so yes I am a pro gamer lol. But the point still stands and cross play gives PC gamers an advantage most of the time. So much so it makes the games unfun as they are mostly competitive.

As for kids playing cross playing with their mates I couldn't care less. I wish it didn't exist because now I can't get away from Fortnite across all the forms it takes. I'm not saying communication is bad (especially if it's your kids) but equally left unchecked peados will be running rampant without any security of a one company ecosystem.

Also Epic are flipping huge. What Epic (25 years in the industry with the world's leading 3rd party game development software) can do and bring to the table is not what most software developers are capable of. So for them to flick a switch might take another company years.

@FullbringIchigo https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/02/sony_says_devs_only_have_to_ask_for_console_cross-play_studios_say_its_lying

There you go buddy. Chuckle fish called them out on exactly what I said. Sony is lying and all CF needs to do is flip a switch. It’s been on the devs since day 1. Sony just won’t allow it. Please do a little more research next time

@FullbringIchigo that’s how everything is. It’s either a dedicated server or it’s a host. Your CONSOLE uses Xbox love or PSN.

@DirectAim Sony has a huge network if your the dev on 1 game hitting a switch is easy when it is a million upon million player Network very different.

@jly1987 my god on 1 game hitting a switch is easy to do! do you not understand the difference between Sony massive online network & 1 game!

@David187 that’s funny because two games did it accidentally before Sony gave them permission. Stop being a Sony fan boy Sony has nothing to do with it outside of giving permission. The developers are the ones turning it on in their games not Sony. I’m baffled at how everyone just blindly chooses to believe what Sony says, as if Sony actually gives a hoot about you other than your money for their goods

@Gamer83 no disrespect to pushsquare, I enjoy this site, but I’d say as a whole, games journalism is currently made up of a bunch of hive mind hacks who make issues to push agendas. They are exactly the same as a media source that swings either left or right

@jly1987 stop begging attention & calling people fanboys because they disagree with your desperate attempts trying to make a big issue out of it! let you carry on can see where you will go with calling people fanboys

@David187 it’s got nothing to do with disagreeing. You are taking literal fact and choosing to ignore it because of your love for the company in question. That’s exactly WHY Layden is lying because he knows much of the fan base will believe what he says. The people making the games are telling you their games are ready to go. That’s why cross play works with everything BUT PlayStation, instead you choose to believe the executive of the company who just recently flip flopped on crossplay due to the overwhelming bad publicity they got over it

@David187 yes, that is exactly how it works. It’s already been done, on more than one occasion with much bigger games than smite, Paladins or Realm Royale. If a stress test WAS the reason they would have started out smaller, not opted for the game with the largest community to see if the network could handle it

@DirectAim @David187 glad you get it because for some reason this guy thinks that PSN is running the servers for the games... it’s either a host on your console or a dedicated server on the devs end

@leucocyte @David187 you can opt out of it on every game I’ve played with it... including fortnite

@BarFooToo @David187 I’d imagine the 4 people who gave you a thumbs down are because you confronted them with fact and not a bias for the company they choose to blindly support because that’s the console they bought. It’s ok to admit when a company is making mistakes. Xbox making mistakes is the reason my ONE is collecting dust since gears 4 and I’ve only used my PS4 pro since. I can’t wait for the day when finally people will realize just because they own a console doesn’t mean they have to blindly follow and believe everything the manufacturer tells them

@jly1987
I don't know. I generally dislike the very popular game websites but while I have my disagreements with @get2sammyb and @shogunrok on certain things I don't feel this website really pushes agendas or anything like that. In fact, I use this site as my main source of gaming info because it avoids so much of the ridiculousness other websites publish.

@Tasuki my bad. Didn’t realize what I typed. I’ll keep it clean