Destiny 2 Down for 7 Hours as Bungie Fixes Its Locked Content Mistakes

The easiest thing that Bungie could have done is to raise the level/power cap for ALL. That way, those that didn't buy the expansion would still be able to 'grind' and still be able to participate in the Prestige 'end game' inc Nightfall and Trials. As they did this with Destiny after the Expansions launched, I expected the same with Destiny 2. Obviously those without the expansions may have missed out on the odd nightfall (when these used the new Strikes) and 'daily mission' when these were the missions in the expansions) as well as the odd week were Xur sold one of the new exotics too but they were never 'held back' from grinding for new levels, new legendary weapons etc - in fact they could still earn the in-game currency to buy the 'new' vendor weapons at the 'current' light level as it was in the first Destiny. Certain areas were of course inaccessible too - like the Reef social space and certain characters weren't in the tower - like Eris Morn but they could still grind for new levels, new legendaries and still participate in Nightfalls (most weeks) and the VoG Raid too.

@BAMozzy That would be a better solution for players, agreed, but at the end of the day, Bungie's trying to sell an expansion that's already been panned by critics and fans alike. It needs all the selling points it can get, as cynical as that sounds.

Basically the people who paid £40-£60 at launch and have been taking their time have been properley seen off.

Games in the post to cex. I wont be buying Destiny 3 at launch and will wait for the inevitable goty esque editions down the line for future games as a service releases. Buying at or near to release your nothing more than a pound sign guinea pig.

Ethics are out of the window.

@ShogunRok If they followed the same model as Year 1, there is still an incentive to purchase the Expansions to gain access to the new exotics, the new areas, the new strikes, the new PvP maps etc. The 'grind' would still give them a reason to return, which would then lead to them seeing the new gear on characters etc but by doing what they have done, those people now probably won't bother jumping back on and therefore won't be tempted to buy the Expansion.

The best way to sell it is to get them back into Destiny, get them playing the content they have with people who have the 'new' gear so that they see it and maybe want it. If those people are already at Max level (not that it was difficult to reach), the fact that they are still locked to that level gives them no incentive to get back on and therefore no incentive or temptation to buy the expansion(s).

Why shouldn't people wh Pay extra be entitled to something exclusively?

@Seppy That's not the issue here. They locked out content for people who didn't buy the expansion that was in the base game. They took away content. I agree that those who pay should get extra, in the form of weapons, strikes, and PVP maps, but stripping content away from the base game to lock it behind a paywall is obviously not smart.

@ShogunRok you still playing regularly ?

@YummyHappyPills Totally agreed its nuts that a max lvlcap is locked behind a paywall.

@BAMozzy I think some free content (between the payed content) will get people back and shows some goodwill.

Yeah I can't be bothered with D2 at the moment. It's a mess, God knows what they were thinking on this one.

@Flaming_Kaiser The only free content between release and Curse of Osiris was Iron Banner so far. They totally missed out on Halloween this year.
In D1 we had the Festival of the Lost (?), Sparrow Racing, Combined Arms. Why they "removed" all these activities in D2 is beyond me.

@SMKpaladin Its not because Im cheap but i think some free content will make for some goodwill and will make people spend more in the end. For me if i see that a game gives me some stuff events i makes me want to reward te developers by spending some money to. I think even a small free raid will help i think things like halloween, christmas are ways to make money.

Not raising the level cap for all players is the biggest issue I have with the changes. Once you have reached the level cap of 305 and have the core weapons then the motivations to carry on playing are limited. Atleast if you had the raise in the level cap it would keep you playing for a bit longer to get the better gear. Tuesdays are now a none event for me as the powerful gear means nothing.

I will still play when they have special events like iron banner etc but will keep my playing time limted until they make more changes to the game.

I did not realise unless you had the expansion that you can not do Iron Banner events? Is that right. Recently read that on another website.

@bbtothe Off and on, yeah. I still like playing Destiny 2 despite everything, but I'll be the first to admit that it needs reworked in a lot of places.

So, I never played Destiny, but I'm curious if you guys prefer the first game or the sequel.

5 hours out for UK, cancelled faction rally. No doubt they'll botch the content fix, they'll botch the prometheus lens fix, they'll botch the sand box updates, they create new plagues in the December 12 content update too.

@ShogunRok the reason the system is broken is because I assume you can only get illuminated engrams post level 20 and all illuminated engrams from eververse are linked to the DLC buy, haven't checked but probably right

If the Prestige Nightfall remains locked when it was previously accessible with the standard game then I seriously hope the poor mugs who bought the game take Bungie to court.

How can they get away with locking that behind DLC after it was previously available.

Absolutely disgraceful.

On one hand, it's good for players who only bought the base game that Bungie decided to fix the issue. On the other, that still doesn't change the fact that they decided lock certain endgame contents in first place. They can claim it was a mistake all they want but I still find it hard to believe them.

@Flaming_Kaiser Its what they did when the Dark Below released. They raised the level cap for all and all the new legendary weapons and armour were available to ALL too. It was perhaps easier because a lot of these were sold by vendors and in the engrams too. That meant that those without the expansion could still grind for the new levels, still grind for the new legendary items etc.

I am sure that may have helped sell the expansions too and allowed friends to play together without there being a big gap between levels and gear. OK so they couldn't access the 'new' areas, maps, strikes etc but they could still do (most) nightfalls, daily missions, bounties etc.

@Flaming_Kaiser I totally agree with you. That's one reason I always go back to Warframe from time to time.

@PS_Nation The first one is superior in every way except graphics. Destiny 2 is a car crash, and that's me being very generous.

@XurAgentofthe9 @Deadstanley PC ruined this game then.

destiny 2 is completely dead on my friends list, doesn't look like the dlc brought many back. the amount of content looks pretty paltry for another £17. D2's sold barely a third of the original game.. i wonder whether they'll draw out D2 with more expansions for a dwindling audience, or decide a new gameplan for D3 is needed sooner rather than later. D2 was supposed to be the game that went back to the drawing board, but seems it made all the same mistakes and a lot of new ones.