Mirror's Edge Catalyst Unties Its Running Shoes Until June

Take it. Got so many games the next few, nice to have room to breathe!

Despite the false PR answer, good move EA. With Battleborn, Doom, Homefront, Uncharted 4, all releasing around the same time, and Overwatch on the same day, Mirrors Edge was destined to be buried.

Bit of a hurty wallet right now so no complaints from me.

There's only so many times I can post "still awaiting greatness" but this is not too much of a delay to warrant an overblown reaction.

I'm not angry over the delay.

What upsets me is that they give us release dates without really knowing whether they can keep them. For once, can't a developer OVER-estimate a release date and push it forward if finished sooner, rather than always the other way around?

Tell us holiday 2016, and come March if it's gonna be done by summer, move it forward.

@JaxonH "What upsets me is that they give us release dates without really knowing whether they can keep them."

You're supposed to save that line of reasoning until somebody posts - "A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever". That's always been my biggest annoyance. If the developer gets the release date wrong for 3 Zelda games in a row (just an estimate, could be 2 or 4, but the history is there) b/c they are always delayed, maybe for the 4th game they shouldn't give a release date?

2 weeks though, in this day and age that's more like setting your watch for Daylight Savings Time than anything meaningful.

And for all the people commenting - good, May was too full anyway - well June has E3 - so this will be totally forgotten a week after it releases, then
No Man's Sky, Star Ocean 5 and several others. EA doesn't care about this.

As a fan of the original, the skill tree unlocks are stupid.

Hopefully these disappear.

@rjejr
Well, they actually haven't given a release date for Zelda. They gave a target release year, which is totally different. I'd rather they estimate with a target year, even if it's wrong, than not. Because it's a tentative target.

I'm talking a legit, certified, actual date. Like May 22nd at midnight, this game is coming out. When you give a specific date, that's E cause you're close enough to finishing development you KNOW you can release then. If you don't know, don't give a date.

@rjejr It's bound to be forgotten after a week anyways. I mean, it isn't really a significant release is it?

@JaxonH "Well, they actually haven't given a release date for Zelda. They gave a target release year,"

At the E3 unveiling, yes, they gave a target year at the end. that's June so it's understandable. But when the developer of the game says - "Yes" in response to the question " Are you SURE that the game is coming out NEXT YEAR?" in December on a videotape for all to see his face and hear his voice, well that IS a release date. There was no hesitation, "Are you SURE?", he said "Yes." That's a release date, there was nothing "Tentative" about his response. . You can skip ahead to about 3:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypR03D1nISA

@rjejr
Hmm, first I've ever heard. But I don't hang on to their every word either. Unless it's an actual date I don't trust it.

Because if it's still so far off they can only estimate a year, it's evidently far enough off that could change. Sure or not. I see how you could be disappointed in that though. But I hope in nothing save for confirmed dates. When they give a date, THEN I expect them to hold to it.

Playing the closed beta this game is fun but as much as I like the game I just don't see it kicking off I haven't seen a ad anywhere even on YouTube it seems like there marketing it worse than the vita

Never played the first one. Is it any good? I'll be waiting for the review I guess

Might actually buy it sooner than I thought now. At its original release date I was going to hold off for a bit because of Uncharted 4 and $$$.

@JaxonH Like Starfox Zero? Or is 11/20/15 not enough of a date for you because it said "11", not "November"?

And I don't know how you had't heard about that video, it was broadcast during the "Game Awards" in Dec 2015, Miyamoto was in it talking aobut Starfox as well. When asked if Starfox was releasing in 2015 he said "No problem" it would be out before Zelda. Well at least they got that part right.

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That's my spare code for the current closed beta if anyone wants? Please reply if you've taken it!

@rjejr
Yes EXACTLY like Star Fox Zero. I said games with a confirmed date didn't I? Ok then, so yes that's exactly what I'm talking about.

Games like

Batman Arkham Knight
Witcher 3
Mirrors Edge
Star Fox Zero
Uncharted 4

Etc etc etc.

Not sure why you're acting like I'm somehow defending a game I never even mentioned. It's pretty straight forward. Give an exact date? Then hold to it. And I can think of about 30 PS4 games this gen that have received exact dates and were then pushed back. Heck, it's probably been even more than that. I actually think I t'd be easier to list the games that HAVEN'T been delayed after a confirmed release date at this point.

@JaxonH That actually happened with Gravity Rush remastered. I was very happy.

@ThroughTheIris56
I'm to the point now where I fully expect each game to be delayed once, possibly twice, after the first confirmed date is given.

And setting expectations accordingly has served me well this past year. It's always disappointing, but never truly surprising.

I mean, one game here and there is fine. But it seems like every single game nowadays.

@rjejr
Also I should mention, target months are more an in-between grey area. Definitely not the same as giving an exact date but, specific enough that I would expect any delay to fall within a 30 day window to be considered reasonable.

@JaxonH "defending a game I never even mentioned"

I didn't think you were defending any game, I thought you were going all blind Nintendo fanboi on me. You are the most enthusiastic gamer I known, but you've never been a fanboy. Ever.

Hardly ever see anybody use "months", but what about "seasons"? MP:FF was due out in "spring" but it's coming out in August. Delay or no delay? Maybe we should ask Howie Mandel?

@JaxonH "but, specific enough that I would expect any delay to fall within a 30 day window to be considered reasonable"

Ok, one last thing before Sammy bans us. I knew at E3 Zelda U wasn't coming out in 2015, I do recognize a place holder date when I see one. And I watched that Miyamoto - Anouma conversation live during the Game Awards, and even then I was kind of thinking - translator error, the Japanese never speak in specifics, it's all humble philosophy with them (yeah, I know, steroyping is racism, sue me, I was just trying to give those guys the benefit of the doubt). But I get cranky when the game goes dark. Like NSA security dark. When you announce a game for 2015, then say "Yes" it will be out in 2015, but here we are now near the en dof Arpil 2016 and i tsitll doens thave a date, they don't even talk about it, it doens' teven have a frikkin name. Yes Uncharted 4 and Batman were both big name delays, but then they were delayed they dint' go dark. Uncharted if anything got more coverage. And I recall seeing a lot of Batman as well.

So it isn't just - oh, Nitnod got the date wrong - it's saying one of your biggest flagship titles on the system is due out in 2015, then saying it isn't in March of 2015 - but never talking about it ever again for over a year. One brief trailer that said "2016". But if we didn't believe 2015, then why should we believe 2016? And Anouma has been talking non-stop about Zelda, Zelda TP HD. Why not keep us updated on Zelda U? It's April 2016 now, couldn't they at least say - Zelda U summer, or or winter, or holiday?

Delaying a title is one thing, delaying your last biggest title on a console and not keeping your customers informed is taking it to a whole other level of wrongness. Indefensible.

@rjejr
Why, cause of Zelda? No, that's legitimately because it was only a target year. I feel the same way about FFXV. Target year after year... It's whatever. But now that we have a date I expect them to hold to it.

As for seasons, it depends. I mean ya, it's a delay, but delays happen. They gave the season they expected to release, and that changed. Stuff happens. But so long as they held to a target season rather than saying, "MPFF is releasing on this specific day".

Delays happen. Target years change. Target seasons change. Target months change. But as long as they don't commit to a date I feel it's all fair game. Developers don't have a crystal ball to know exactly when a game will be finished. The target times are a courtesy IMO. But when that time becomes an exact date, now you've committed.

@rjejr
Like I said before, I get why you're upset. I'm just not that upset. Anymore than I was for all the FFXV delays. Then again even actual stated releases delayed barely upsets me.

This is the first time I've actually griped about delays in a long time.

@JaxonH "This is the first time I've actually griped about delays in a long time."

That's b/c griping about everything is my job, you're the eternal optimist. Well except for SFV, I think thats legitimately the only time I've seen you upset in 3 years.

And you do know FFXV will be delayed right? Who gives out a "date" over 6 months in advance? 6 months is when you give out the season, 3 months is the date. Only way Sept 30th is real is if the game is already nearly done and they are just waiting for either PS4K or NX to launch. Cloud in SSB and all those DQ and JRPG games on 3DS have me thinking FFXV is actually a possibility on NX. I know there's no chance, but I'm thinking it anyway. And that DQ on NX "slip of the tongue". FF7 remake on NX is a real possibility though. And where's my Cloud amiibo? Waiting for a FF on NX , that's where.

DQ games on NX - Squenix loves them some NX.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/dragon_quest_xi_is_coming_to_the_nintendo_3ds_and_nintendo_nx

@rjejr

Well, I dang near went postal when I read a "leak" about Nintendo censoring marriage in Fire Emblem Fates, removing children, and all questionable outfits. Created a topic in the forums and gave the rant of a lifetime, smoke billowing from my ears the whole time.

Turns out it was a prank. Needless to say they got me good. REAL good. I deleted the topic before anyone else could recognize me.

But no one really knows about that one. Thank God.

@JaxonH Nope, missed that one. But I'll keep it between us. And deleting it seemed like the right way to go.

I've been trying to avoid all censorship issues. My wife works in book production at a company that does a lot of Japanese "manga" books in the US, Yen Press, and things get changed all the time in translation. Censorship is bad, but cultures differ. I'm a sociologist, cultural differences are what I do.

@JaxonH I know. I can't think of any game that wasn't a remaster than hasn't been delayed. At least some games like Bloodborne were only delayed slightly, then it's not too bad.

@rjejr I agree, delaying a game is annoying but often the right thing to do. However nothing kills hype than when it's well past a game was meant to be released but we have nothing new, not even a trailer or something. It just means we're likely to give up caring forget about it.