I beat Bloodborne last night. I'm tempted to talk up my gaming prowess in this opening paragraph, but I'd be undermining the entire point of this editorial if I did – there's way too much e-peen measuring going on elsewhere around the web with regards to From Software's latest. The thing is: I was just like you – I was terrified of the PlayStation 4 exclusive, expecting it to rip me to shreds and push my patience to its extreme limits. It turns out that I just really, really enjoyed the game.
I'm not going to lie to you: it's hard. You have to play it with the right mentality, as approaching this gothic outing as though it's a spiritual successor to Devil May Cry will get you killed. But if you play cautiously – watching your corners, taking on one enemy at a time, and learning the patterns of your foes – you will triumph without too many problems. I'd estimate that I died about 50 times in my 40 or so hours with the adventure, and at least 20 of those came courtesy of Father Gascoigne.
And that's because the game really isn't as impenetrably difficult as some people will lead you to believe – it just requires you to re-learn everything that you know about games. Checkpoints? They're few and far between. Progress? You'll lose it if you're impatient. Bosses? Yeah, they're tough. Well, apart from the Celestial Emissary – he's a bit of a joke. None of these things ever feel especially unfair, though, and if you can overcome the initial hump, you will progress.
There's way too much e-peen measuring going on around the web with regards to From Software's latest
There's one tip that I'd share: if you're a beginner, read every piece of material that you can get your hands on. I tend to avoid spoilers like the plague, but with this game, I just decided to absorb every guide that I could find – and it served me well. I knew exactly which class to pick, where to level up, and some general strategies for all of the bosses before I got to them. Some may argue that I ruined the element of surprise, but I also felt prepared – and it helped me to appreciate the game.
I know dozens of people that would enjoy this title, but they've all spun me the same line: it's too tough. But, with the right attitude, it's not as hard as you think – in fact, I think it's expertly designed. Every single encounter has been tuned to a point where it's challenging, but never overwhelming. And while you may die, you'll learn something along the way; be it a shortcut or the placement of an enemy, you'll get better and better and better with every minute that you invest. That's satisfying.
I will criticise one area: the Chalice Dungeons suck. I like the idea here, but replacing all of the abovementioned hand tuning for an algorithm doesn't work, and you end up in scenarios that are unbalanced and unfair – especially when the game strips you of half of your health for fun. But these are, by and large, optional extras – and they only serve to highlight just how brilliantly designed the rest of the release is. Ignore them, and you'll never even consider tossing a controller.
At this point, I actually think that the Souls series' fearsome reputation is working against it. I should stress: my experience with the franchise outside of Bloodborne rests with an hour or so with Demon's Souls – a game which launched at a time when I couldn't commit to it properly. Beyond that, I was put off the brand due to the promise of frustration. Maybe this latest instalment is easier than its predecessors; all I know is that you shouldn't ignore it just because you're scared that it's too hard.
How have you got on with Bloodborne so far? Are you a beginner or a veteran? Do you feel that it's impenetrably hard or is Sammy on the mark? Try not to die in the comments section below.
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Compared to how I'm finding the first 10-15 hours of Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne was a walk in the park. I didn't really struggle at all with Bloodbornes last half, maybe I was just a bit over levelled, I was at 84, not sure what is the norm. Overall it's not as tough as I thought it would be though. I didn't go into it with any knowledge either and just spent my levels where I thought best.. if you get stuck just grind a few more levels and you'll do it the next go round.
@kyleforrester87 Are you playing Dark Souls 2 on PS4? 'Cos I heard they re-balanced that and messed up the difficulty curve by making it impossibly difficult from the off.
Can people invade your game like they could in Demon's Souls? I hated that...
@get2sammyb Oh yeah? That makes me feel better. I broke all my weapons and had to grind for 50 souls a piece against zombies with my fists till I was strong enough to make a run for the blacksmiths key.. Now I actually have some okay gear and I'm fighting big knights for 400 souls but still getting hammered. Basically been in the same 2 small areas grinding. I've got a system now but hopefully will be able to get going with it a bit more soon.
@Splat Yeah, they can, but it only happened to me twice in 40 hours.
@kyleforrester87 So, this is going to blow your mind: my understanding is that there's a bug in Dark Souls II on PS4/PC. Weapon degradation is attached to frames, and because the game's running at 60 frames-per-second, it means that they break twice as fast as on PS3. Mental!
@get2sammyb Ah for god sake. Would make sense if it's true. One weapon is hardly enough to get you between two bonfires before breaking as it is. Least it makes me feel better for getting my ass kicked.
Scholar of the first sin its pretty awesome ! the problem is the same that we PC players had when the original DkS2 was released, durability its tied to the FPS of the game, in short, 60fps breaks the weapons 2 times faster than 30fps
In fact, hitting ragdolls (dead enemies, rocks, stuff that dosnt die) destroys your durability for 4x the normal rate (which was on the 30fps version too, but at 60fps its stupidly high), especially terrible when fighting mobs of enemies
On the original DkS2 we got a fix for that (a mod) and the guy is working on it again for FOTFS, but i believe PS4/XB1 players will have to live with it
I feel SOTFS feels better than DkS2, there are now Heide Knights in Heides tower FFS
And yes, Bloodborne its super easy compared to SOTFS, especially since theres none penalty for dying
Ah man every day I come a little closer to buying this, especially as I can get it on finance from Very and only pay £15 a month for 3 months, but I still haven't really gotten far yet with the last big game I bought (FF Type-0) and feel like I should really finish that first!
@get2sammyb (and others that have played it) one question I have - is the story told through cutscenes (ie with a higher level of graphic detail) or is the whole thing in engine? I've not watched much footage, but there are some screenshots I've seen that look absolutely jaw-dropping and I'm interested to know if that is consistent across the whole experience. I know it's all about the gameplay, but looking good is always a bonus!
@SteveButler2210 the story its practically nonexistant unless you want to
Just like soul games, there are pretty much non cutscenes, but theres also pretty much non "real" story, its all about creating your own story by the bits of lore you can find trought the game... even thou, and just like Soul games, its pretty lackluster IMO
@SteveButler2210 The cut scenes are in engine since your character is individual to you..But seems they've used some visual trickery to make things look nicer during the cut scenes. The cut scenes and story in general is rather minimal though but lore and lots of theories to read up on outside of the game. The actual in game graphics are good, but beware of jaggies on more distant objects, all the more apparent on a larger TV. It's not quite as good looking as screenshots would suggest. But it's good.
And the framerate its not the best, its hardly full stable 30fps. especially in places like Central Yharnam
and the multiplayer hits the game even harder, its not terrible, dissapoiting its the best word to describe it
@get2sammyb Did you get through the defiled dungeon Sammy?
@get2sammyb you may have just convinced me to try it. i loved what i played of demons souls but i got stuck pretty early in the game and eventually gave up. so i didnt bother with dark souls 1 or 2 and was going to ignore bloodborne also despite really liking what i saw of it
I'm a casual gamer...always have been. I don't play games to be punished by the brutal difficulty. Coming to Bloodborne was out of character to me but I did based on its design and its homage to Lovecraft. As someone who tried 30mins of Dark souls 2 and gave up I was certainly not prepared for this game. I died many many times just walking onto the 1st street. But despite the loading screens and my mounting despair is wasted £50 on Bloodborne I kept at it....I got better, I survived longer and learned to run away when needed. The game is mostly fair in its punishment and if I died it was because I needed to get better and I did. It's a beautiful looking game with superb combat and I couldn't be happier I gave it a shot. Right now I've hit a wall and I get murdered no matter which area I try....but I'll get better.
After playing and beating Bloodborne, I'm REALLY thinking about giving Dark Souls 2 another chance on PS4.
@Mrskinner Nope! Still trying, but not really enjoying it.
"if you're a beginner, read every piece of material that you can get your hands on."
Sounds more like your studying for exams than just relaxing and having fun.
I appreciate people like a challenge and want to succeed, nobody would ever be successful in life w/o that drive and determination, but trying to convince people who view videogames as an outlet for fun by telling them if they study hard and prepare themselves they might just make it thru it isn't going to change a lot of peoples minds.
There's a reason they're called videogames and not videoexams.
@rjejr lol to be fair I don't think you need to read up before playing Bloodborne. Your enjoyment might be increased as a result, or you might not have to grind quite so much in certain areas to level up attributes you could have started with more of if you'd picked a separate class, but I don't think there is any thing you can do in Bloodborne that would be impossible to undo and require a restart. Dark Souls 2 on the other hand seemed like that was the case for the first 6-7 hours lol
You need blood vials for health..you can get plenty (maybe too many) of them by killing monsters. You need echos to level up, again you get them by killing monsters. All the vendors are available from the off to get supplies in exchange for echos..so it's just a case of slowly progressing. But it's obviously more fun than it sounds
@Munkyknuts You're not a "casual gamer". A casual gamer is someone who play games here and there. You're a gamer.
Got this game Saturday, and after an hour or two trying to get past the first part and dying again and again I sold it the same day.
There's no story/introduction and you're just thrown out into it without really knowing what you're doing there.
The graphics didn't impress me, honestly it looked like a PS3 game and overall it was all a very frustrating experience.
Maybe it's just not my type of game.
@Faruko
You complain a lot about bloodborne... You rant on it on every story about bloodborne or forum.. Sorry just an observation.
@rjejr
Completely agree with you.
Granted, I don't have PS4 so I can say nothing about Bloodborne, but the difficulty has put me off trying the Souls series on PS3 and Dark Souls 2 on Xbox One. It just doesn't seem like something I would enjoy...
@Sanquine I love it, i find it to be the best PS4 game, and it was well worth the buy of my PS4
YET that doesnt mean it doesnt have issues
I was a Souls virgin, and have never really had a taste for brutally punishing games. Bloodborne was super out of my comfort zone, and initially, I felt I had wasted £50. I called in a co-operator on Father Gascoigne (having missed the cleric beast) as I was sick and tired of dying, but felt cheap after.
Anyway, I started a new character, persevered and finally took out the Cleric Beast and Papa G by myself. And that feeling of finally downing a boss that has caused you so much pain? Amazing. Since then, I've completed the game on two characters, the second one is half way through NG+. Bloodborne really is a masterpiece. My friend agrees too, and he took TWENTY attempts on the Cleric Beast.
Sure, for some, the punishing nature of the game is too much. But if you can overcome that initial learning curve and frustration, it's a really unique experience.
Hi, long time reader, first time poster. I'm the sort of guy that died hundreds of time playing the evil within on easy, and generally play all my games on easy. Would bloodborne prove too much for me?
Bloodborne is honestly, in my opinion, the best game I've ever played. It satisfied me completely. I've never played demon souls nor dark souls but because of bloodborne i went and purchased DS2 SotFS
@john1981 i don't think so because unlike Evil Within you can just grind lower level enemies for echos to level up if you get stuck. More skilled gamers will be able to clear areas at a lower level than you, so it'll just take you longer. In evil within you are more or less stuck as you are minus a few character upgrades. You will die a lot in the first area for 5-6 hours though but you will get skilled and levelled enough to do it. 20 hours later you'll come back and mow everything down in 5 minutes.
@john1981
Not necessarily, you could be a bloodborne savant but all the same, this could be a game you could excel at or not but it's all about whether you enjoy it. There is a co op option, it is quite helpful when it works
Thanks for the replies guys. There's lots of good content on pushsquare to help me along think I'll pick it up when the price drops
Is the amount of articles and whatnot about this game really necessary? I know we've been starved of genuinely good games on PS4 (I jest) but every time I come on here now there's seventeen new articles about Bloodborne. I've had it since day one and haven't tried it yet, don't think I will for quite a while as - without even trying it yet - I'm utterly fed up of it. May be on my own here, and if people are enjoying them then fair enough, but it is overkill.
I beat this game last week and found it to be a freaking masterpiece. Amazing. I was pretty far into dark souls on pc when this released. I was after trying the souls games on multiple occasions and i just could never get into. I was so used to games where you're never locked into animations and I really sucked at dark souls. Then I picked it back up one day, determined to learn it and something just clicked and I finally understood the gameplay.. from there I was hooked. So anyway when bloodborne came out I decided I wanted to take that on and my new skills from dark souls served me well. I absolutely destroyed this game. I died probably around 20 or 30 times but I hunted down each and every boss and loved it.. so now I'm back into dark souls and I am so glad I still have the rest of this game, then scholar of the first sin and finally demons souls to play I am so hooked.....
Also... man I hope bloodborne gets a ton of extra dlc.
@arsenio3d you should just git good... haha jk
@mitcHELLspawn Haha yeah, you might be right.
@arsenio3d haha that's just what the "dark souls elitists" say to people when they criticize the game lol.
@rastamadeus you are on your own. Also, you're over exaggerating the amount of articles.
I loved it. It's not perfect. The frame rate occasionally stutters, the multiplayer is almost broken, the chalice dungeons feel undercooked as an idea...... but the rest of the game just nails it. Absolutely nails it. Beating a boss like the Cleric Demon or Vicar Amelia feels incredible, and managing to stagger an enemy three times your size is one of the most satisfying things in gaming. It's not hard, it's challenging. It respects you enough to figure things out, and the internet is full of people collectively sharing tips on it. That just doesn't happen anymore, and it's awesome.
One more thing.
I beat blood starved beast, papa G, the shadows of Yarnham, the Hemel witch, martyr Logarius and the dog in the first chalice dungeon first go. First time.
You know who beat me about 8 times? The celestial emissary.
DAMMIT SAMMY SOME OF US FOUND THAT BIG BLUE B*****D HARD TO BEAT. Not that I'm embarrassed or anything. Ahem.
If I can't defeat the Witches next weekend I swear I rage so so hard....
@rockman29 I don't think anyone should include megaman x in the category of difficult title. The NES games, absolutely. But x was never really that difficult.
On topic, I'm only playing here and there, but I'm enjoying my time with it so far. Probably more than I did demon souls.
It's a brilliant game I'm sure. But I know I can't play this because I lack the essence as mentioned in this article: Patience
Got destroyed by the bloodstarved beast so i will grind for blood echos.. Also got pretty sick of those werewolves. My stamine is 25 do i need to invest more in vitality or strength?
Haven't got the time for this game , work 12 hours a day and get about 3 hours gaming in a week , would be waste of money for me sadly. Rasta has a point about all these blood borne articles not just here but across all gaming sites particular the how to beat a guardian then another and another.
I'm split on this topic; Bloodborne IS very hard, but it's most required skills are patience and memorising enemy movements and lunges.
Unfortunately, it's not as enjoyable as a result; there's a phenomenal sense of achievement upon taking down a boss after deaths ad-nausium, but I'm not convinced the journey to get there is always worth it.
I will persist as I absolutely loved Demons Souls (more for level design) but I'd also agree with others that the graphics are NOT as good as reviews have us believe - it does look like an updated PS3 game - and there are WAY too many articles on how to beat bosses and so forth.
My real issue is on Destiny......a 6GB update, and for what? Minuscule improvements..... These mandatory updates on PS4 are beginning to really p*ss off Galvatron....
Language - get2sammyb
"it does look like an updated PS3 game"..What?? Definitely not!
@Galvatron I find if I die 30 times trying to beat a boss, when (and if) I ever do, I often don't feel satisfied, or that I've achieved anything, just a feeling of "well that was tedious" and I end up not playing the game again for a long while.
@Splat me too, especially as you couldn't opt out for some unknown reason.
@get2sammyb this might sound stupid but can you actually pause this game?
Not being able to pause is an absolutely terrible idea to me, you know, as life happens often in the middle of a game?
@ToOGoodOfAPlaya You can't pause. There are plenty of 'safe places' around the world, though - and if push comes to shove, you can just suspend the PS4.
@get2sammyb Thats cool.
Its times when my son wakes up and Im in panic mode trying not to die in game but be as quick as possible!
It does help to know before hand though, so Im not like "oh crap!"
I don't know why but Bloodborne has an awful psychological effect on me. I've played every game in the series so far. I found them tense to a degree, but something comparable to how it would feel to get to an end of level boss in Sonic when I was a kid. I mean, I played Diablo 2 all day every day for weeks and weeks and not only did that have you dropping money when you died, you also dropped all your equipment and lost a certain amount of your money even if you recovered it.
But for some reason I just can't play Bloodborne. I managed to force myself through to the Cleric Beast after owning the game for about 2 weeks.I did it first go, yet afterwards I was shaking, I felt sick and light-headed and all I wanted to do was stop playing the game. I don't know if it's the better graphics or what, but with the previous Souls games there was an initial bump where you had to accept you'd die, but after that it was just a bit tense, like playing a survival horror game. I haven't touched Bloodborne since the Cleric Beast.
Was definitely one of those put off by the talk of how hard this is... Not necessarily because of the difficulty, but the time needed to be input to play it properly... May reconsider thanks to this article. Thanks sammy
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