Let's be honest: the loot system in Destiny is broken. Bungie's latest big thing may be beautiful, but no one cares how good it looks when you can't find the gear that you want — even if you've spent several hours shooting into a void in the hope of finding something worthwhile. Fortunately, upon the discovery of another so-called 'loot cave', the developer has announced that it will, at least, be making changes to the engram system in order to make it a little less infuriating.
For those out of the loop, engrams are pickups which can be decoded into random items. However, regardless of the rarity of these goodies, in the game's current guise, there's a possibility that you may not nab gear on par with them. That will change with next week's 1.0.2 patch, as the update will ensure that engrams always decode into weapons or armour at the same rarity or above their denoted standing. Unfortunately, this will only apply to engrams nabbed after the patch has been installed.
There's no word on these drops becoming more frequent during general play, but there will be more opportunities to earn them; Daily Heroics, Weekly Heroics, and Vanguard: Tiger playlists will all dish out legendary and rare items now — and at least you know that they'll actually be turned into something useful when all's said and done.
There are a bunch of other very minor tweaks listed on Bungie's official website, but these are the big ones for now. Are you satisfied with these changes, or do you still feel that the developer has big issues to address? Kick the Cryptarch in the comments section below.
[source bungie.net, via polygon.com]
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But not ps3..?
Yeah this system was broken. Hope they get it right next time.
Yea I really hope they sort it all out!! My Helmet/Chest/Boots are all Legendary and all fully unlocked but I can't get enough Shards to lvl them up!! I don't have a problem farming the "Spirt Bloom" and others but the shards are just plan stupid!! And the same can be said for Strange coins!!, fingers crossed they sort it out!! And its fascinating that it only saying PS4?! Does that mean the X1/360/PS3 will not be getting this patch?!.........
They should also rework the entire system, the loot cant be any more boring...
The game is good but the loot system (and the loot itself) has to be one of the worst around
The last patch review item is great. "Legendary Engram items that exist in your inventory will be demoted to Rare quality when the patch goes live, so decode them while you can. But let’s be honest--even if you don’t, we all know they were blues already..." I'm sure all the systems will be patched but for sone reason Sammy always puts for ps4 on the headlines
What are you going to do when your gears fully upgraded? Complain that there's not enough exotic's? or that you can only equip one exotic at a time and that's stupid because theres nothing to do now that your fully upgraded and the game's boring and it's all Bungie's fault because theres not enough content. It's supposed to take a long time so that you get a sense of achievement, you are ruining the game with your QQ'ing and then after you've destroyed it your going to move on because your "bored" and leave the rest of us with a watered down half decent game. It took a few years to do the same to WoW, it took less than a month with Destiny. I've had 4 exotic engrams this morning alone and got 2 blues and 2 legendarys one was a sniper and i had to destroy it because i already had one (both solar damage) it is now raining legendary's, well done...
Changing the subject totaly, does anybody know whats going on with the weekend vendor chap?? I have 39 motes and 25 coins burning a hole in my pocket.
@xMEADx How do you mean? If you wNt to find him he he was hiding behind the bar under the hanger yesterday.
@xMEADx You are in the vast minority who is happy with the loot system. I don't want the legendary engrams to come more often I just want them to actually be legendary when they are decided. And simply put there isn't enough to do in the game to keep many gamers doing the same stuff over and over again battling an unfair loot system
Praise Odin! Clearly that sheep, weasel and small homeless person I offered have been accepted!
What I don't like with the engrams is that with the armor, if it's legendary up to exotic, you can get another classes item, now that just sucks. While I like this game and I think it should score around an 8 or so, the items should have been much better and much different to eachother both weapons and armor. It's to simple in a way, it's just to simple. Something as simple as a sword on other mmorpg's have so many more differences and looks compared to Destiny.
@xMEADx I cant imagine how kids today would fare in 80s and 90s of gaming. Games like contra and out of this world are epic because of their difficulty.
I personally like the loot system. I think the people who don't aren't spending enough time in the crucible, that's where I've gotten much of my gear so far and I'm only 10 or so hour in.
I think people don't get that destiny at its core is meant to be a competitive PVP game with some RPG elements added meant to keep you occupied when you don't feel like going into the crucible.
No one replays the story on battlefield or call of duty, all they do is play the multiplayer. Destiny has that great multiplayer but you can also do side missions and events.
@dgwdum Meh it used to annoy me but it's the norm now, if they dont have all the goodies at the end of the second week the games dull not rewarding enough and theres not enough to keep people playing!!! Haha its not even been out a month, nvm and damn i missed the vendor xD I got another legendary weapon btw since i last posted, (The Citizen III bloody awsome stuff a legendary i can use!!) ANOTHER exotic bounty (thats 2 i'm currently on atm) and a legendary coat for my lv 5 Warlock. I think its safe to say the loot system has been tweaked. At least i've been loving the game since day one lol i've had a blast. GJ bunjie
I've been stuck at level 20 for days. Can't get any armor with light on it. And I'm terrible in the crucible.
Poop.
The big question is: why wasn't it design like this to begin with!? 0_o
Someone needs to be fired at Bungie, the saddist genius whose idea it was to wrap green items in purple gift wrap!!!
@KillTheG1mp I think it was this guy
@KillTheG1mp Very very few people are happy with the loot system...those few that are are just vocal about it. Some can go on about it at heart being a PVP game to say it's not meant to be replayed so it doesn't matter it's repetitive...but progression in the game demands sections and tasks being repeated over and over....some defend the game as an MMO so grinding to get gear and advance is part of that, but those same people complain about item farming which is also a part of MMO games. But no matter what a purple engram which rightly only falls very rarely as it is legendary shouldn't then reward that luck by kicking you in the teeth and going from a purple item to a blue....their isn't enough variety of content in Destiny to be forcing so much repetition.
@FlyingKickPunch I got stuck at 20 as well, and I suck at the crucible. I'm afraid you have to embrace the grind unless you want to try farming for items. Try the strike playlist for rewards, but also remember that being rubbish in the crucible doesn't stop you getting gear....just taking part counts.
I like the game, but even I'm not happy with the loot system. I think what bungie did was quite cheap for a game with a buget of what, like $400 million? Even borderlands 2 has so many more items and stuff compared to Destiny and that was a much smaller budget. There really isn't any excuse that bungie can say at this moment other than, "sorry, we @#$@ed up with the amount of loot this game has, we have no excuses but we'll fix this" that still hasn't happened and they've yet to acknowledge it.
I think that this game didn't really have such a high budget and they pulled that $400 million to $500 million out of their butts to get more sales for the game. It makes people believe then that there is much more in the game.
@Demi_God I loved the game, and still do despite taking a break from it....but they made bad choices with the loot system. I'm sure since it's just the 1st in an ongoing franchise it will continue to get tweaked and improved.
Good to here, ive been stuck at 22 and 9/10 to 23 for over a week and lost interest after farming patrol missions, heroics, and strikes for an average of 4hrs a day. I dont like the crucible, and ive started to feel forced to do it so ive taken a break from the game for the past few days.
Now that your happy with the loot system at least we can concentrate on the thing's that really affect the gameplay, like the non existant msg'ing system, if bungie want people to meet and bond enough to do "end game" then they need to sort that out, atm the only way is to use the PS+ way and that sux, it's impossible if say your in the middle of a strike and a friend sends you a msg and you want to read it quick. It takes a good 60 seconds to faff about getting to the dashboard then to messages etc etc never mind sending one back lol there's no time for that, and by the time you finish the firefight its to late they have started without you and so on. I hope people will make just as big a fuss about as they did about loot (which you would of got sooner or later anyway), that would make a REAL difference. There is just more important things that need to be adressed.
@FullbringIchigo That damn Corporate Commander gets his grubby hands on everything these days...
The loot system is definetly broken in this game. Its been about 10+ hours since I levelled past 20 & I haven't even had a single legendary engram yet Jumping on for a couple of hours each night in the hope something good comes along is getting tiring now. Starting to get the trading itch...
@Demi_God that is my biggest gripe with engrams, I've had enough exotic and legendary engrams to equip a warlock in full, I have no interest, I'm a hunter, all 3 peices I own I've had to buy via coins or marks, pretty disgusting.
Yes it needs improvements but its all about the Story. The story is EPIC only hidden away, read the grimoire, listen closely to the few hints we have. Bungie said (paraphrasing) "Don't judge too quick, stay for the long trip!". That's what I'm doing as I'm seeing something of an epic scale on the horizon. Mindblowingly amazing. I have my own theory but just to get your brain cells working, here's some hints: Who are the awoken and why are the called like that? What about Rasputin the warmind AI? Why are the remains of the cities on Venus and earth alls cattered with technology that looks like from OUR (real life, 2014) time and not much further advanced when the traveller supposedly brought us the golden age, hundreds of years to explore and expand into the solar system, then came the collapse and war waged for another hundreds of years. Really? Priuses on venus? Think about it. It's obvious after a while and yet it's going to be an awesome twist. Anyone ever walked down into the second stranded ship in old russia. Try it. Discover.
Hey guys, I need some help. Just got a ps4 with destiny 2 days ago. Haven't had a Sony console since the ps2 so unfamiliar with the online stuff (had a wii/Wiiu last gen). I have received a friend request from someone I know, but it only shows in notification and not in my friend section. So I sent him one, and it says in notifications he has accepted but it is not showing up in my friend list or on destiny. Am I doing something wrong?
@Scollurio I'm a writer and editor in real life and the screenwriters at Bungie should be burnt at the stakes mate. There's full potential and hard science-fiction concepts aplenty... but none of it is actually "used" in the game. And that, my friend, is very bad storytelling!
@Demi_God I think I remember seeing that the Development budget was 250M, still a giant sum though.
still though $250 million is such a huge amount, the game should have been much, much bigger than it currently is. imo, I think a few people at bungie should be kicked to the curb.
Some people comparing this awful loot system to Contra or out of this world ?
Diablo 3 loot system its much more rewarding and you still have to work your ass off to get those legendary items you been waiting.
This game has one of the worst loot system arounds, boring, uninteresting and worse of all, hard to get, and im not saying "let the legendary items rain from the skys", no, im saying, get a better system and let me feel that im progressing towards a greater goal.
So far the only thing that let me feel that way is sitting a whole day looking at a cave to get ONE better piece of loot, doing raids, while fun, its just not worth it... not to mention the idea that every single game gives you the same experience and loot chance independetly from their level its bad game desing at its finest
By the way, i grow up with Contra and Mega Man, but that doesnt mean i have to accept a bad desing when i see it
Oh ! and on a side note, i enjoy the game, its quite decent, except the loading times (i hate having to go to the tower...) and the AWFUL chat system, wasnt the Wii the one with the non-existant chat system ? well Destiny seems like a world made of mimes
I'm glad I didn't buy this, not for gameplay wise however. Played the beta, loved it. Was ready to drop $100 on the collected edition even. But then I heard it online only. Meaning no single or lan co op. I have really crappy internet so I cannot play it. Plus in many years to come the disc will be a Frisbee and won't be supported. However seeing how this game is very popular, or at least advertised to be the best and biggest game out there, i doubt it'll end anytime soon. Ittl still probably be supported 10 to 12 years from now when PS5 is out. However, I don't own a ps4, so I assume by the time ps5 is out the ps3 server will be long gone.
@Scollurio another reason I like the game, story. It has the mind set like dark souls. Barley any story, you know more by lookin in game, not cutscenes. Its more immersive. That's in my opinion some good storytelling IF done right.
@xMEADx munkyknuts is right, honestly that's the beef with the game.I like the public events, i like roaming around, i like finding stuff and I really don't mind how rare it is because that's the way these things are supposed to be but.... after the 50th time roaming the same area with the same enemy, it can become dull, and it for many people. luckily I don't play too much so hasn't effected me too much yet.
Don't forget though that for a base game, there isn't much content, so when you repeat missions, you can easily do all of those in one sitting. So after doing repeated missions for only a week, everyday, it is insanely repetitive. Like I said, the base game is rather small, it should have been much bigger.
@Midzark LULZ - ok just FYI those are probably going to stay the same - those materials are meant for you to farm and are not just given out. The problem the patch addresses is the issue with purple engrams being mostly greens and blues with a hint of purple thrown in for good luck. Ascendant shards/motes of light/strange coins are going to take awhile to farm and hasn't been an issue. You just need to play more bro.
@dgwdum I disagree. If anything Destiny is all about raids - everything else feels so-so compared to the glass vault. Its almost painfully obvious the game is really about raids.
@xMEADx My smart phone has been such a blessing for responding to messages and joining groups. I know it shouldn't take a 2nd device - but its made my life a lot easier for that and I like typing better with my phone than the controller.
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