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Your PlayStation Network Games Won't Work on PlayStation 4

Posted by Sammy Barker

In fact, none of your current PlayStation 3 content will carry across

We warned you not to expect backward compatibility on the PlayStation 4. If you followed our advice then hopefully you’re not too disappointed, because Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida has revealed that your existing PlayStation 3 content will not work on the next generation system. That includes retail discs – as was briefly touched upon during last night’s press conference – PSN games, and even game saves.

Yoshida added that it may make some downloadable titles playable “in some form”, though due to the differences in architecture between its existing platform and its impending machine, these are likely to be simpler releases that don’t take much processing power to emulate. Gaikai co-founder Dave Perry outlined vague plans to port PlayStation’s entire back catalogue to the cloud during Sony’s big PS4 coming out party last night, but it seems like the solution is still in the idea phase for the time being.

How will the lack of backward compatibility impact your PS4 purchasing plans? Let us know in the comments section below.

[via engadget.com]

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User Comments (40)

rjejr

#1

rjejr said:

Nintendo - how I love them so but they seem so technologically deprived, they're like the Amish of videogame hardware - has a way to transfer Wiiware games from a Wii to a Wii U which then emulates a Wii. It also plans on re-selling you you're old Wiiware games for $1.50 so you don't have to switch into Wii mode and you'll be bale to play them off your tv on the controller. Not perfect but the options are there.

If Sony can't find a way for people to play Journey and The Unfinished Swan on their PS4s for free or really cheap that's a big and surprising disappointment. I never expected it to play PS3 discs or big retail game DLs but Critter Crunch and Beat Sketcher seemed doable.

hamispink

#2

hamispink said:

it makes sense, all these games could run on PS4, but they would have to be completely reprogrammed to work with the new architecture. It sucks, but I'll just keep my PS3.

Placlu

#4

Placlu said:

Really now? Is it just me; or the more I find out about the PS4; The less I want one? I get PS3 games not playing; but really now, how hard is to get plants vs zombies to run on it?

Squiggle55

#5

Squiggle55 said:

Even though this was for the most part expected, it's still the biggest disappointment for me. The problem isn't even that I can't transfer all my games, it's just that somewhere in the back of my head I was holding out hope that the ps4 would somehow unlock remote play for my exisiting psn games. I thought there was a chance I'd finally get to play might & magic or critter crunch on the Vita.

I also agree that Dave Perry made it sound like the backwards compatibilty streaming was simply in an idea phase, so that's a bummer. Once I'd like to see their grand ideas be something they actually implement at launch.

And I still think all would be forgiven if they would simply make all ps4 content remote playable, but Jack Tretton said their goal is "most" ps4 games and "long-term" plans.

get2sammybAdmin

#6

get2sammyb said:

@Placlu "Yoshida added that it may make some downloadable titles playable 'in some form', though due to the differences in architecture between its existing platform and its impending machine, these are likely to be simpler releases that don’t take much processing power to emulate."

We don't know what will or won't work at this stage. It may be that Plants vs. Zombies is the type of game that does get ported across.

irken004

#8

irken004 said:

I just wonder if we'll be able to get free access to stream some games that we already own on PSN or PS3. Or perhaps a small fee to "upgrade" to stream some of our purchases.

Knux

#9

Knux said:

I'm keeping my PS3 permanently obviously, so it's doesn't affect me too much. However, I'm likely going to be waiting awhile before buying a PS4 because it's own library is going to have to build up before I take the plunge.

Squiggle55

#11

Squiggle55 said:

@Knux That's kind of how I feel about waiting, but I will probably go ahead and buy one if they start giving away good free games through ps+. But dang I just want to hear them say that they are making remote play compatibility a requirement with new games. If it isn't policy then support will suffer.

Epic

#12

Epic said:

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WHYYYYYY?? WHYYYY SONY?T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T__T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T
Thats make my PS+ a waste of money if I even consider getting a PS4.

JavierYHL

#13

JavierYHL said:

not a problem with me...i ready to play only next gen games when the next gen arrives :)

FullbringIchigo

#14

FullbringIchigo said:

i can understand why it wont after all the infer-structure of the 2 are so completely different i imagine it would be a nightmare to try and get the PS4 to play PS3 content and i'm fine with that after all they made the PS4 easier to develop for so i can go with out backwards compatibility if it means better quality games for the system and no mess ups like Bayonetta

3Above

#16

3Above said:

Im fine with it. Evenually this will happen with ALL game consoles. The wii - WiiU thing is becasue WiiU isnt much of a jump archetechually from wii. And even then its more like an " other OS " situation in that you have to boot up in " Wii mode " On the truly NEXT GEN Nintendo console i doubt there will be backwards compatibilty. Not to mention the net code differences from PS3 to PS4 would make playing PS3 games online a nightmare.

NathanUC

#17

NathanUC said:

I still don't really understand peoples 'requirement' for backwards compatibility in gaming. It exists in almost no other market so why should we expect it in gaming? Buy a PS4 for PS4 content.. it's simple. I just hope we still see some cross-buy content for PS4-Vita.

BornOfEvil

#18

BornOfEvil said:

I don't understand the obsession with backwards compatiblity. Sure, it would be cool to play my PS3 games on my PS4, but it's not a problem if I can't because I plan on keeping my PS3.

hydeks

#19

hydeks said:

I can understand why not having backwards, it puts the price of the system up just to do so. Honestly, I want the PS4 for exactly that, the PS4, I already own a PS3 and such, and I can easily still buy a PS2 and used PSOne's on eBay, so I really don't see a problem. Also, my current ps3 slim doesn't have backwards with PS2, so I've kinda gotten use to it anyways lol

Ginkgo

#20

Ginkgo said:

I so rarely go back to replay games it is not an issue for me. Not sure if I will sell my SP3 straight away, or keep it for a bit. But don't expect that I will turn it on much once I have a PS4.

PJRandall

#21

PJRandall said:

Incredibly disappointing. I was planning on buying a PS3 this year, and the announcement last night made me decide to wait for a PS4. Now, I'm not sure if I wanna buy a PS3 and wait for a while for a PS4, or buy a PS4 and skip the PS3. I had hoped they learned their lesson about lacking backward compatibility. :(

Kayoss

#22

Kayoss said:

@Placlu
What part of "...the architecture of the PS3 and PS4 are different." do you not understand??? Games were designed for the PS3 regardless if it was disc base or digital based. Its not a simple transfer as loading a game onto a usb and sticking it into the new console. Its like trying to put a Dodge engine into a Honda, it will not work. Why you think all these year, not all PS2 and PS1 are playable on the PS3. It takes time to reprogram each game. That is time and money that Sony don't have. We as consumer whine and moan why some PS1 and PS2 games are not playable on the Vita, but we fail to realized that it takes a lot of time to make sure that the game works on the new ported console. This is not including license fee from the original developers. PS2 alone has 10,000 title. If i was in charge of reprograming all those, i would hang myself.
Sony gave the consumer the options to buy a Ps3 that are backward compatible, but people still whine and moan that the system was too expensive. PS3 architecture is different from the PS2, with the earlier version of the PS3 (60 and 80gb) you can play PS2 and PS1 games thanks to the emotion chip. Its like shoving a PS2 into the PS3 console. But with that high cost of the PS3, sony had to cut some feature out of the PS3 to cut down on production cost that can be transferred to the consumer.

HeroOfCybertron

#23

HeroOfCybertron said:

That's it I'm not buying a PS4 at all I don't have the money to buy a whole new PS4 that won't even play the PSN games I have.

CanisWolfred

#24

CanisWolfred said:

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WHY YOU NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE PS4?!

Seriously, the PSN stuff being backwards compatible should be an absolute must! This simply unacceptable! Now I'm definitely not getting a PS4, until they fix this issue, at least.

divinelite

#25

divinelite said:

Even I know it already, still it is disappointing.

Let's just wait about two years for ps4 then

Alpha

#27

Alpha said:

@CanisWolfred the PS4 not playing PS3 games i understand, i mean who would buy a PS3 to play PS1 games really, same thing with the PS4, you have a PS3, why use the PS4, but the PSN stuff is messed up. i hope they fix that. but i still want one.

Alpha

#28

Alpha said:

besides losing backwards compatibility is needed for the next generation to be allowed to actually grow, and keep the launch price down. also a few years after it does come out the PS3 games will stop being sold, just like the PS2 and PSone games

Alpha

#29

Alpha said:

@Kayoss well idk bout that, if they learned from the hackers, maybe make an emulator that can play all the games, instead of reprogram each and everyone, look at the PS Vita, it cant play N64 Games right off the bat, but through a specially made emulator like daeduls they can be. sure youd have to hack the console but thats why i say they should learn from them. Same thing with the PS3 cant play all PS2 games (newer consoles) if you hack your PS3 you can through special means. dont mean i have a hacked ps3, damn near impossible to do so, i looked into it and decided id like to be able to play games online, besides my PC can play PS2 games. The Options are there, they just judge them and deny them, instead of learning from them.

Alpha

#30

Alpha said:

@PJRandall I say you should Buy a PS3, it still has a few good years left in it, youd be missing out on a great system, the PS4 comes out this year but you can always wait, by the time you can get one itll lower the price.

Hetsumani

#31

Hetsumani said:

Backward compatibility is not a feature that I use because I don't get rid of my older consoles or games. Actually, I don't understand why would anyone sell their older consoles, unless they do it to get a new one.

Squiggle55

#32

Squiggle55 said:

@Alpha I think you are absolutely correct about emulation. The slow rollout of ps1 classics and psp games for Vita isn't about difficulty of programming as much as it is making sure there aren't any hacking exploits in them I believe.

ShogunRokAdmin

#33

ShogunRok said:

If the PS4 gets a good catalogue of games then I won't want to play old PS3 titles. That's how I see it.

Zombie_Barioth

#34

Zombie_Barioth said:

The PS3 games I can understand but if they port/remake the PSN games for PS4 I hope they give people a way to transfer/upgrade their purchases, especially after pushing digital purchases.

BlueProxy

#35

BlueProxy said:

@nathanuc1988

Because of the investment people put into their game collection. $40-60 a pop, adds-up quickly. Plus it's normal to replay older games you own just because you enjoy them.

Kage_88

#36

Kage_88 said:

NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY?!

I HATE SONY!!! SONY ARE DEAD!!! THE PS4 IS WORTHLESS!!!

...Or I could just play my PS3 stuff on my PS3...yeah, I'll do that. Sorted!

Gamer83

#37

Gamer83 said:

I had planned to keep my PS3 but this is still not good news, especially if MS does allow you to carry over all your 360 content. It makes the decision for multi console gamers a little bit harder. I have to admit, though I'm more excited for PS4 this does have thinking a little bit now about which system to get first. It makes me more interested in what MS is going to bring when it finally pulls the curtain back on the next Xbox.

TreesenHauser

#38

TreesenHauser said:

It's not a big deal, I'll just wait to get a PS4 until I've completed all my current PS3 content, which... depending on how long I spend playing each game, could be a while.

But, I can say this: For everyone wondering why people "expect" backwards compatibility, maybe it's because Sony kinda began the trend of backwards compatibility? When the PS2 launched, not only did it offer better-looking games and a DVD player, but it allowed PS1 owners to use their PS1 accessories and games on the new console. When this became known, it became pretty much standard for the console generation to follow. Xbox 360 supported most of the original Xbox's library, PS3 supported PS2 games (at least earlier on) and Wii supported GameCube games and accessories.

So, I can actually understand why everyone expects backwards compatibility, especially from Sony.

NathanUC

#39

NathanUC said:

@BlueProxy Sony isn't taking away any of that.....

There is no reason to be upset when a system doesn't support backwards compatibility. If you own PS3 content, you own a PS3. Sony isn't making you get rid of that PS3. You're PSN titles and purchased discs will still work the way they do now. Nothing changes. People need to quit feeling entitled to features that are a waste of time and resources.

Alpha

#40

Alpha said:

@Squiggle55 Exactlly, and thank you :)
see some games on the Playstation store do get taken off the store to get patched so no one can exploit them, UNO mini is one of them.

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